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Will This Game Ever Get American Forces?
petepppp
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The title should be enough of a question.
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of course
this game is going to be around for ages - so i would have thought that USA vs Japan in the pacific would be a great theatre to add
That would be the "I win button".
I don't think usa will come in short term. Maybe in some years... if the game still exists by then?
There's lots of other priorities atm and they know it.
That said, you can already use american equipment like the thompson smg, sherman tank and C47.
Personally I couldn't care less for US-forces, but I feel fom a markting-perspecive they should have added the US already in the original release. Then again, I suspect the people for which this would be a deciding factor to subscribe to the game, wouldn't like the game regardless... (but of course I can't be sure about this)
The disadvantage of having the usa in the game of course, is like the above poster states: RDP and spawnlists would have to favor the allies. And there is already enough whining in the official forums about imbalance issues as it is.
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I'm pretty sure the sequence will be...
Map all of France, Germany and England.
Develop Italian and US troops
Map Northern Italy
Map N. Africa
Have US, Brits, Germs and Italians fight in N. Africa.
Map all of Italy
Hopefully it will go something like this. Axis invade France and Allies win. Then start over.
If Axis win they could invade England or most likely move over to a N. Africa map. Start with Italians and Brits fighting. Bring in the Germans then US and Vichy France. If Axis wins start over. If Allies win N. Africa move to Italy. If Allies win Italy move back to Europe map and fight to the end.
If they get this new terrain mapping system online things could go pretty quickly. I don't know how long it took for them to do the current map but the new system is suppose to speed it up tremendously.
They only have 12 guys working on this so that is why things take so long. If more people started to play they can hire more programers etc. and things could really move along fast.
Next step would be Poland, Russia, then........
The Amercian forces will never be put in. The Rats will just continue to flesh out and balance what they already have because thats all they can afford to do.
Further more adding Americans would kill the game population balance wise and the Rats know this. Now its somewhat the same with both sides having their primetimes unless they are sandbagging for whatever reason.
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The Rats will bring in the US when they can afford it. They will take a chance some where along the line. Bringing in the US will revitalize the game. I think they are waiting on finishing their new terrain editor from what I understand.
Bringing in the US would not be hard at this point. They all ready have most of the major American equipment in game. They just have to flesh out the map between Paris and Berlin and bring in a few more pieces of hardware and give the inf the M1 Garand. Change the helmet on the Brits and there you go.
Do some more work on the supply lines and strategic options. Its a fine line they have to walk but I think they can do it.
The Italian armed forces could be a hoot when they bring them in game. They had some pretty good equipment from what I understand. It was just used poorly.
The timing is the key. They have to have all their ducks in a row before they make the leap and a developer that can make a contribution in the wings.
The Americans will never be put in. The M1 Garand can not be allowed for balance reasons.
The Americans might temporaily bring players into the game but they will not stay long when they are in the grass fields all by themselves and that is what will happen. Where are you going to get all the Axis players that will be needed for that extended front? The Axis player base feels cheated enough already they will refuse to play under those circumstances. Further more you add the Americans and you will have to take away the sherman/sherman76 from the French and that would make them unplayable.
The Amercians will never be added. It would be the worst thing the Rats could do to the game balance wise.
Try to have a little more realistic view on the future of the game. The most the Rats will be able to do this year will be TOEs and the new naval landing vehicles and possibly the bazooka/panzerfuast inf units.
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Accpps: I disagree for the reasons I have stated. The Rats are Americans you know. The Americans probably won't come in the game until the French are defeated. I doubt very seriously we would have the French and the US in the game at the same time except near the end for the drive on Berlin if it came down to that. If the French and Brits win the map then it would just start over again.
As to the M1 Garand. I was told that the Axis had a very good answer for the M1. Some kind of assault rifle that would even it up quite nicely. I personally would prefer to have a strength in different areas based on history. In stead of Red vs Blue where each gets a weapon to counter the other of the same type how about this.
The Axis get the Panther while the Allies get the M1
or the Allies get the bazooka and the Axis get ME262 in very limited quantity
or the Axis get the panzerfaust and the Allies get the B17 or Landcaster
or the Axis get radar and the Allies get a torpedo boat
or the Axis get a sub and the Allies get the Brit Comet
Just things to mix it up a little. Make the game more interesting. Make the High Commands choose what they want to research and when. Many things could be done to make the Axis player base larger or the Allies for that matter. Give the side with the less players some cool new piece of equipment.
The Americans are coming I assure you. As are the Italians and N. Africa. They would be silly not to.
Just in time to save your country, kid.
You are so naive about the future of this game its embarrassing. The M1 rifle will never be allowed for balance reasons and neither will a full auto assault rifle.
Axis get the 262?
Allies get the b17?
Axis get a sub?
Lets try not to be so dumb please. Non of these things are ever going to happen.
You are forgetting or ignoreing the only fact that matters. Hardly any one plays this game. As a result of this fact the Rats will never have the funds or the time to model all of those idiotic gamebreakers. They fired the artists to keep their business model above the break even point and considering they have almost no college educated people in their ranks we will be lucky to have a playable (not ghost town) game to play 2 years from now let alone all those additions.
We could have made peace, Hitler abandoned his invasion after we beat the german airforce.Just in time to save your country, kid.
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What he meant, Americans saved your country from Reds. In 1944 either we (US, UK, Free France) liberated Europe from Nazis or Commies would've made Socialist republic of France, the way they did with Germany.
And BTW, it takes them around 6 months to model one vehicle - thay have 4-5 people working on the project. I don't care if Americans ever be in game. There is nothing like this game, trying to model WW2 land war. You either love or hate it. I play for 1-2 months, get fed up with things, quit for 4-6 months, subscribe again.
And yes, if they put Stg44 in game, or panzerfaust, that would finish the game for Allies, they will all quit in numbers, will be the end of the game.
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Well, this horse was beaten to death on many wargamer forums. History is written by the winners BTW. If you search for comparative strengths of Soviet Army and German Army in 1944, that would answer your question. in 1945 ratio was not favourable even compared to allies.
One thing for sure though. In 1945 the only thing that stopped Reds from attacking Allies in Europe was an A-bomb. Stalin got his A-bomb in 1949, in 1950 North Korea attacked South. In all and all Stalin was worse than Hitler, with regime far more brutal than Nazis. And he ended up enslaving half of the Europe. Whatever Nazis did to Jews was done by commies to every country they took over, although on different basis. Which didn't make a difference to those who perished.
So no need to diminish the sacrifice of many young americans, canadians, brits, who lost their lives in Europe just because today US is doing something wrong.
Also dont forget winstons "terror raids" which had a huge effect on the Germany War industry.
Without Britain in the war, Canada would follow suit as well as other British colonys. The US would fight the japs with British support from India and Australia. But without British Support it would be impossible to launch an invasion into europe.
So just becuase im questioning turn of events im diminishing peoples sacrifices? I was originally pointing out how the US profiteered from the war and entered when they could profit no more. The British empire emptied its coffers fighting the Nazi's & the Japs and the US stood by and made alot of money.
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"almost no college educated people in their ranks" My aren't we the snob.
I enjoy the game and it is progressing nicely. Enough of us play the game and more are joining as we speak. Take your negative vibes somewhere else please.
People where I am from like to call a spade a spade.
well i sometimes call it a shovel - or to avoid offending the tool i say 'manpowered digging device'
CRS doesn't need college educated nubs. It needs people with years of experience in the MMOG industry and simulation building experts ... which it has.