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10 million dollars where did it all go exactly?
"After more than 3 years of development and with more than $10 million of development cost, 9Dragons is a breakthrough in game play and graphics quality. Developed by award winning Indy21 team, this game is destined to set a new standard for MMORPGs."
Alright breakthrough in graphic quallity comon you have got to be kidding me. There are better graphics on the Psp than on this thing this is no breakthrough for anything. Everquest, Eve, Wow, almost any other mmo has better graphics than this. Any feedback or am i just looking at the wrong screenshots?!
Alright breakthrough in graphic quallity comon you have got to be kidding me. There are better graphics on the Psp than on this thing this is no breakthrough for anything. Everquest, Eve, Wow, almost any other mmo has better graphics than this. Any feedback or am i just looking at the wrong screenshots?!
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Sincerely,
~Lord Rayven
I haven't paid attention to this game at all, but the quote above has been said by just about every major MMO at some point. They always act like they have features and gimmicks that the other games don't, even if they're wrong.
It's just another Korean MMO trying to pass itself off as the next big thing. You can safely ignore this one, IMO.
Speaking of Bots, some of the skills damn near require them to work.
As for where the money went, my guess is they spent it all on marketing.
I can't say where they placed that 10M but I know that most animations are motion capture. I practice Chachuan Kung Fu in RL and if you look at the Iron Fist style or Wu-tang it's pretty damn near the real thing (with added fantasy)
Animation wise, a level 15 character will perform more moves then every WOW characters combined lol.
the game play is repetative, very much so indeed. i don't mind grind games that have a good pvp aspect, unfortunately mages can't use all their abilities in pvp and i've yet to experience pvp outside of just duels in hefei and can't see any motivation to pvp other than just pwn some other guy, overall its uninspired
i reached the level of Five Dragons Cheng 1 in a week (proof that i don't mind grinding) as far as free games go, i think this one is decent. i think it is in some ways unfair to compare it to a pay 2 pay game. personally, i'd rather pay to play something that i find more appealing
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Don't u think that's a bit too much to say? Every race has 3 different casting poses (healing, casting and like buffing or dotting), and every race has both female and male and the female and males cast different. 3x10=30, 2x30=60 (including TBC). So totally there are 60 different casting poses, do a lvl 15 do 60 different?
what's up with asians and wanting people to sit afk to sell items? doesn't that put a load on the server that isn't needed?
makes a korean sad to know these are the kinds or mmorpg's coming outta my home country.
Personally, I like this game a lot, it's not the same move for every weapon you get in every other game. There are enough quests, if you bother to check the various maps and your character sheet under "Living" (collectors). As to complaints about "The Grind" if you don't like grinding you shouldn't be playing online games, go play your console with it's cheats and god mode if you want instant gratification. Online games are designed to be played over a long period of time, not to make you an instant god loved and worshiped by every guy pretending to be a female
Graphic wise, I like the game, not it's not up to PsP but then neither is your machine, consoles have always been more powerful in this area since they're designed for just one thing, playing games designed just for that console and nothing else. Most computers are just 32 bit, some 64, how can you even try to compare that to a 128 bit system??
As to the warmth of a community, you also have to get use to the fact that not everyone speaks your language, you can ask questions all you want but if people can't understand what you're saying few are going to respond. It's only beta but I've already met a number of good people, and there are some (like me) who will try to answer your questions (if we hear them). BTW some people may not answer due to the fact that they're AFK, I've come back to my computer after.. umm.. visiting the little adventurer's tree and found rude comments about my not responding in many games.
It's also more of an adult environment, most of the players I've met seem to range between 25 - 35 (I'm 49) and the rude snotty behavior typical of some games isn't tolerated, even in beta. I would recommend this game but only to adults who can act like an adult or younger players who are more mature in their behavior.
PvP is offered in two formats, one is in controlled duels in an arena in neutral territory, the other is open all out PvP areas but only on certain maps. I suspect that those who don't like this format are the ones who prefer standing outside of towns and ganking every newbie who's just started the game (not very challenging but the only way some people can claim high kill rates).
As to the usual comments about asian games I just discount all of your arguments, you're a bunch of haters who will attack something without even trying it just because of where it's from, your loss, not mine.
My only real complaint with the game is the same as with many of the games I've tried lately, the blankity-blanking filter, simple words like class or speed or quite a few others wind up looking like cl*** or s***d, at 49 years of age I don't need some bit of stupid software trying to wash my mouth out with soap. People are going to occasionally swear, it's a fact of life and no amount of filtering is going to end it. Developers need to stop trying to placate the morality fanatics with filters, most of them aren't the ones who are paying for your games anyway.
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10 million dollars is average for a game and maybe a little less for a MMORPG... The average XBOX game cost around the same to make and they dont have to make as much content for non MMORPG or worry about servers... I heard development costs for XBOX 360 and PS3 games could reach into the $30 millions plus... Heres a qoute from a website...
Development costs should be in decline as game developers reach the technical limits of the platform. That's not happening. "Research and development costs continue to go up," said Richard Ow, a game analyst for the NPD Group. In 1996 a typical PlayStation game cost less than $1 million to make and sold for $49. Today, development costs for an Xbox or PlayStation 2 game run anywhere from $5 million to $7 million per title and sell for $49.99. And some game titles can cost upwards of $30 million.
Several things are driving development costs up: First, compared to the last generation of consoles, the current 128-bit generation requires at least 40 times as many lines of code to fully exploit its capabilities. And that costs money. Shiny president Dave Perry says that the more advanced the console, the larger the development team. He should know: Shiny's "Enter the Matrix" cost more than $20 million to develop. "To keep pushing the limits, that not only takes more people, but better people," Perry said. "Great development staff are therefore becoming more and more valuable, and as our industry moves to Playstation 3, Xbox 2, etc., then they will be at a new premium," he said.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20030619-165.html
Link^^^
Oh and if you want to see some maybe better screenshots look at the ones below.. Not sure what your expecting from a 3 year old game in korea but the games looks good enough to me... This game looks almost as good as Silkroad Online graphics wise... If you want to see bad you should check out "Legend of Ares" and "Hero Online" screenshots..
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i've played this game for the first 45 lvls (wich isnt much) and to be honest i think it sucks. its hollywood kung fu and its all over complicated for the sake of being complicated.... they tried to make it all more interesting by doing it different than other martial arts mmo's but it came out worse.... maps are linear (as in theres one or 2 roads and you cant go far off it) quests are all kill 10 of mob x type
armor makes no sense in this game since it doesnt do anything for defense and its only purpose is for pockets in which you can hold stat items... the weapon system is also bad since the clan you choose decides wich types of weapons you can use (2 choices) and when you choose a class that dictates wich of the 2 choices you will get skills for from then on.... it is possible to change class or clan in the game but a pain in the butt...
graphics are a joke and as a joke hilarious... cant get away with that these days... even on highest settings its just bad....
im not a fan of point and click mmo's period but i must say in a martial arts mmo its especially anoying... so far classes are seriously unbalanced as healers are pretty much useless.... casters overpowered and incredibly boring (casters dont even need grps just spam nuke) and hybrids well... they got a little of everything and so in the end you see 70% of the server population as warrior class
all in all i really dislike it but if you are curious by all means give it a try...... wont cost you anything but your time
Graphics arent that bad... Seriously what are people comparing this game to graphics wise?? Do you have screen filtering turned up to max and does your graphics card handle the shaders for reflective water that this game has??? The game doesnt have the best graphics but it's no where near as bad as people make it out to be...
WOW^^^
9dragons^^^
Silkroad^^^
Hero Online^^^ (Now thats bad)
@ookiller Have you gone to Hefei and registered to duel? If that didn't work there's another open PvP area, I think it was named Bloody Plain.
@mixedguy they're just professional whiners, think of them as gaming's little Emo crowd, There isn't a game out there that hasn't had it's share of whiners all prophesying doom and gloom. I just wish they'd take they're little Emo razorblades and cut their connections to the net, but then if they did that who would they have to whine to.
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Someone is mistaking CPU with GPU bits. Computers are and will always be more powerful than consoles technically speaking.
Someone is mistaking CPU with GPU bits. Computers are and will always be more powerful than consoles technically speaking.
The cheats comment isn't even worthy of a reply, as to your "technical expertise" I think it's you who needs an education, CPU word size in consoles has always been ahead of computers, the comment about graphics was because of the speed of the system, nice try twisting what I said though. The core of it remains, people like you just cry because you want instant gratification, online games are not designed for instant gratification, they're designed for extended play to give a community time to grow, but then you'd have to use that brain and think ahead to comprehend that wouldn't you?
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Now I wonder if you enjoy doing nothing but pressing a button 10000 times in a row to gain a skill level (that's literally what some buffs require) ?
What do you suggest 9dragons do to make gaining skill levels better for "you" so "you" don't have to push your poor buff buttons 10000 times? Wait, who in the hell presses buttons 10000 times to gain skill lvl??? I believe gaining skill levels is one of the most interesting things about the game. It's not meant to be easy, everyone in a rush to be high lvls, but thats not the focus of the game, improving and bettering your skills and strategy is what I noticed and why I play the game. So many mmo's that all you have to do is buy the skill and you are set. And yes, you do buy skills but the game takes it a bit further and says you train to be able to use that skill first then you have to level that skill to make it stronger. I see alot of complaints but no suggestions in these bs threads. Its' one thing to give an opinion but dammit if it is an negative opinion, why don't you back it up with an suggestion to make the game experience better. FFS! the game is in Pre-Open Beta, it's been open for close to 3 weeks there are alot of improvements that need to be made. They have only one server at the moment, no one said the game is final and is perfect.
As for the topic make sure you quote the correct company. I believe the Europe company Persistant World stated that on their site not Acclaim. I for one find every negative opinion not only in this thread but every thread pointless and bitchy. I believe alot of you guys are spoiled and need to wake up. I agree with the recently stated alot of you guys do look for "Instant Gratification" and don't realize it. Why else would their be so many cry baby threads about a pretty good game that has been in "Pre-Open Beta" for 3 weeks? Again, there is never anything wrong with stating "your" opinion about a game, but since you are all knowing about how a game should play give some dam advice or suggestion on how these companies can improve less bitchy more suggestions. I mean thats what Betas are for...
Stick to console guys and everyone is happy
Personally, I think all the above whiners need therapy. Apparently you've the assumption that a game is going to kill you if you need to actually work to level up and get new things. Go play Runescape for a day, then compare it to 9Dragons. RS is a killer. 9D is actually fun. I've played it for a few days now and absolutely love it.
Sure, there could be better graphics but heck, it's good enough for me. No game will ever have the 'perfect' graphics. Quit whining and thinking there ever will be.
I myself am still toying with the idea of going back to FFXI but for now 9Dragons is keeping me entertained and there still plenty for me to do, if I went back to FFXI not only would I have to pay the subscription fee's (which at the moment I cant really afford as Im a student and im going to Tokyo in 12 weeks) but id have to finally get my last few jobs to 75 which I cant be bothered to do haha.
If people want to moan and groan about 9Dragons let them people are allowed an opinion, they might not like the game. Same to those making it sound like the best thing since sliced bread, if they like it let them rant and rave. What difference does it really make to you? If you like it you like it, if you dont you dont end of.
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