I'm no stranger to playing within a MMO community such as this, but it certainly makes for a bad show all around when folk are referred to as simpletons or noobish nincompoops simply for not understanding a basic aspect of the game straight away. Trellot
I don't care if you're sad that I'm elitist.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
I'm no stranger to playing within a MMO community such as this, but it certainly makes for a bad show all around when folk are referred to as simpletons or noobish nincompoops simply for not understanding a basic aspect of the game straight away. Trellot
I don't care if you're sad that I'm elitist.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Unfortunately I can do nothing more than to equate your post with that of a wet, loose, lumpy, steaming, mal-figured, malodorous heaping pile of human defecation. PM me if you need further explanation.
I will not try EVE now.
I know you don't care, or those of your ilk, what I do or decide. But this is what is so tragic in many mmorph communities today, a total, mind-numbingly inept reticence to actually listen to what others are saying without responding with the nauseous pomposity like in your post to me.
So know this much, I will not play the game nor will recommend the game to any of my friends or relatives...all because of good ole' RollinDutch and his or her wonderful way with words.
Well the thing with wanting to hurt other players does stem from the terriotry control aspect of the game. With out loss there is no way to deter people from entering your area. Now the wish for revenge stays fresh do to the damage they have done to you ingame reputation and the possible loss of control of assets like stations and outposts. Its the lack of permant change in the FPS style pvp games that gives me the same mentality for revenge. If some one kills me i'll try and find them and kill them next round if I even care to bothered to do that.
Exactly.
The revenge stays very fresh because the COST attached to whatever they did may and usually does take awhile to recoup. I am busy with a MASSIVE revenge mission at the moment. And if possible this revenge will result in me causing as much damage to the persons who caused the damage to me. Not that I am a revengful person but it is the only way to return a "favour" in Eve.
Trellot I am not going to beg you to try or play Eve as that is your choice but to catagorise a game based on a single persons comments is also not correct.
Trellot I am not going to beg you to try or play Eve as that is your choice but to catagorise a game based on a single persons comments is also not correct.
Monde, you may be right.
But as a stranger to the game of EVE when I post a very important question, to me at least, about the game's existing atmosphere and then to receive such an unpleasent incendiary retort I am quite ill-inclined to try it. Certainly Rollin's mentality exists in large part due to his or her inability to think beyond the "Me" in things. However, and as I said before, I've been reading about this peculiar society in EVE.
I'm no stranger to playing within a MMO community such as this, but it certainly makes for a bad show all around when folk are referred to as simpletons or noobish nincompoops simply for not understanding a basic aspect of the game straight away. Trellot
I don't care if you're sad that I'm elitist.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Thank you.... whoever, very much for reading my post and deciding not to play. This has saved us both the trouble of:
You logging into the game
You dying
You crying about dying
You quitting
By skipping the first steps, we have successfully streamlined your EVE trial. If you'd like to thank me further, paypal donations are always accepted.
Monde, you may be right. But as a stranger to the game of EVE when I post a very important question, to me at least, about the game's existing atmosphere and then to receive such an unpleasent incendiary retort I am quite ill-inclined to try it. Certainly Rollin's mentality exists in large part due to his or her inability to think beyond the "Me" in things. However, and as I said before, I've been reading about this peculiar society in EVE. Trellot
Agreed I felt the same way about WoW. I have never played it as when I went onto the official forum I got flamed, called a Noob, etc etc for asking about the game.
As I have said before though the Eve community is not like this. Take into account the amount of Forum Trolling that goes on and how much name calling and flaming we have to put up with on this part of the forum. I nearly left MMORPG.com because of it. It does tend to make people angry and makes them faster to say well go away then. Which is unfortunate.
Please read posts from people like Taram and Nicoli to see that a large number of the Eve Community is not like that at all and we are not elitest just tired of bring called Fanbois and getting stupid comments thrown at us. I hope that I do not come across as a Fanboi or a Flamer. I am a Eve noob who has been playing since May / June last year.
I have met the greatest community in game and have never ever met such a friendly great bunch of people....with a few exceptions.
Edit: A's on my keyboard are faster than the other keys.
I'm no stranger to playing within a MMO community such as this, but it certainly makes for a bad show all around when folk are referred to as simpletons or noobish nincompoops simply for not understanding a basic aspect of the game straight away. Trellot
I don't care if you're sad that I'm elitist.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Thank you.... whoever, very much for reading my post and deciding not to play. This has saved us both the trouble of:
You logging into the game
You dying
You crying about dying
You quitting
By skipping the first steps, we have successfully streamlined your EVE trial. If you'd like to thank me further, paypal donations are always accepted.
The loss system is the same idea behind shy paintball or airsoft will always differ from real combat. With paintball there isn't a whole lot of consiqunence for getting shot. You get shot "Oh crap" you're out big deal. In real combat you get shot you're dead or you lose a limb or something. Hence why when u play paintball people run around like chickens witht their head cut off theres no real consequence.
Now in the video game world it's alot harder to simulate the real rush u get from doing the things you're imitating on the screen. In cs of coarse i can run around like a jackass and get killed. Sure theres some rush in it but cleary distinguishable from the real thing.
It's the same thing in the MMO world. there are some games where u can pvp very freely and have no worry of consequence and thats fun for some people. But some people would also argue thats not the true essence of an RPG and more that of an action game. I mean in dungeons and dragons your character dies... he's dead thats it game over re roll. Then theres the other spectrum the type of game that wants you to actually play the ROLE of the character you male in the ROLE playing game ur playing. Death penalties are higher but this is so to give u a sense of consequence so that u don't get a whole lot of people running around attacking anyone they want. I mean how would u feel if everytime you went to mine some or some random jackass kept shooting u even though he was sentenced to death soon after it's just annoying. Or you're getting ready to pvp someone around the same lvl as and some random no body hits you with some random missles just because he felt like it.
What i'm saying is there are 2 different genres 2 different types of games that require 2 different gamers to play them. You cannot really compare the 2. That would be like comparing Counterstrike with Modern D20 pen and paper. But what it comes down to in the end is. If you can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen. If it's not for you don't play it. Don't come on forums trying to tell others not to play it don't come here telling people who like the game how bad it is and expect to not get fanboys commenting back. Eve is a gem for people who want a more Serious approach to games. Not to say the other games are bad because they're not. Just saying that people who enjoy even want that lvl of OH SHITNESS. and they want the MASS and the complication that comes with those decisions to kill or be killed.
Just ignore RollingDutch, he's an ass whereever he goes, ingame aswell
I think he's just mad that he couldn't fit his entire nickname here.
Anyway, EVE has a steep learning curve, and it requires you to put in some effort in order to have fun. This makes it so that when you lose something, you really feel it, but the same is true when you garner some success. The first time you kill anyone in a good PvP fight gives you a rush like nothing else, and it's the rarity with which these things come along that make the game worth playing, really. It's a long chain of (anti)climactic occurences, which just adds to it's magic
It's not up everyone's street of course. Also, EVE *is* more difficult to play due to it's combat system. If you're not in a fleet you need to stay on top of your game, and you have to plan beforehand carefully aswell - Ship setups require a lot of thought to be good at what you need them to do. Doing some simple math is a good tool to help here. In contrast, most other games simply require you to make simple decisions on what gear you need and what is the best sequence of actions in a certain situation. The same as in EVE, but the planning beforehand almost completely dissapears, and therein lies the big difference.
Does EVE require you to be more intelligent?
No.
However, it does require you to "think" more, as it were. You just have to do more to do the equivalent of an action in another game, if you want to simplify it like that.
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If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Unfortunately I can do nothing more than to equate your post with that of a wet, loose, lumpy, steaming, mal-figured, malodorous heaping pile of human defecation. PM me if you need further explanation.
I will not try EVE now.
I know you don't care, or those of your ilk, what I do or decide. But this is what is so tragic in many mmorph communities today, a total, mind-numbingly inept reticence to actually listen to what others are saying without responding with the nauseous pomposity like in your post to me.
So know this much, I will not play the game nor will recommend the game to any of my friends or relatives...all because of good ole' RollinDutch and his or her wonderful way with words.
Trellot
Exactly.
The revenge stays very fresh because the COST attached to whatever they did may and usually does take awhile to recoup. I am busy with a MASSIVE revenge mission at the moment. And if possible this revenge will result in me causing as much damage to the persons who caused the damage to me. Not that I am a revengful person but it is the only way to return a "favour" in Eve.
Trellot I am not going to beg you to try or play Eve as that is your choice but to catagorise a game based on a single persons comments is also not correct.
Monde, you may be right.
But as a stranger to the game of EVE when I post a very important question, to me at least, about the game's existing atmosphere and then to receive such an unpleasent incendiary retort I am quite ill-inclined to try it. Certainly Rollin's mentality exists in large part due to his or her inability to think beyond the "Me" in things. However, and as I said before, I've been reading about this peculiar society in EVE.
Trellot
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Thank you.... whoever, very much for reading my post and deciding not to play. This has saved us both the trouble of:You logging into the game
You dying
You crying about dying
You quitting
By skipping the first steps, we have successfully streamlined your EVE trial. If you'd like to thank me further, paypal donations are always accepted.
Agreed I felt the same way about WoW. I have never played it as when I went onto the official forum I got flamed, called a Noob, etc etc for asking about the game.
As I have said before though the Eve community is not like this. Take into account the amount of Forum Trolling that goes on and how much name calling and flaming we have to put up with on this part of the forum. I nearly left MMORPG.com because of it. It does tend to make people angry and makes them faster to say well go away then. Which is unfortunate.
Please read posts from people like Taram and Nicoli to see that a large number of the Eve Community is not like that at all and we are not elitest just tired of bring called Fanbois and getting stupid comments thrown at us. I hope that I do not come across as a Fanboi or a Flamer. I am a Eve noob who has been playing since May / June last year.
I have met the greatest community in game and have never ever met such a friendly great bunch of people....with a few exceptions.
Edit: A's on my keyboard are faster than the other keys.
If you suck at the game and whine about how it should be changed so your idiotic ass can succeed, I hate you. I will make sure you know how much you suck. If you have a problem with that, go play games you don't suck at.
Thank you RollinDutch, very much. I was indeed intending on downloading and trying out this game, EVE.
Until I read your reply to my post.
Thank you.... whoever, very much for reading my post and deciding not to play. This has saved us both the trouble of:You logging into the game
You dying
You crying about dying
You quitting
By skipping the first steps, we have successfully streamlined your EVE trial. If you'd like to thank me further, paypal donations are always accepted.
Trellot
Now in the video game world it's alot harder to simulate the real rush u get from doing the things you're imitating on the screen. In cs of coarse i can run around like a jackass and get killed. Sure theres some rush in it but cleary distinguishable from the real thing.
It's the same thing in the MMO world. there are some games where u can pvp very freely and have no worry of consequence and thats fun for some people. But some people would also argue thats not the true essence of an RPG and more that of an action game. I mean in dungeons and dragons your character dies... he's dead thats it game over re roll. Then theres the other spectrum the type of game that wants you to actually play the ROLE of the character you male in the ROLE playing game ur playing. Death penalties are higher but this is so to give u a sense of consequence so that u don't get a whole lot of people running around attacking anyone they want. I mean how would u feel if everytime you went to mine some or some random jackass kept shooting u even though he was sentenced to death soon after it's just annoying. Or you're getting ready to pvp someone around the same lvl as and some random no body hits you with some random missles just because he felt like it.
What i'm saying is there are 2 different genres 2 different types of games that require 2 different gamers to play them. You cannot really compare the 2. That would be like comparing Counterstrike with Modern D20 pen and paper. But what it comes down to in the end is. If you can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen. If it's not for you don't play it. Don't come on forums trying to tell others not to play it don't come here telling people who like the game how bad it is and expect to not get fanboys commenting back. Eve is a gem for people who want a more Serious approach to games. Not to say the other games are bad because they're not. Just saying that people who enjoy even want that lvl of OH SHITNESS. and they want the MASS and the complication that comes with those decisions to kill or be killed.
I think he's just mad that he couldn't fit his entire nickname here.
Anyway, EVE has a steep learning curve, and it requires you to put in some effort in order to have fun. This makes it so that when you lose something, you really feel it, but the same is true when you garner some success. The first time you kill anyone in a good PvP fight gives you a rush like nothing else, and it's the rarity with which these things come along that make the game worth playing, really. It's a long chain of (anti)climactic occurences, which just adds to it's magic
It's not up everyone's street of course. Also, EVE *is* more difficult to play due to it's combat system. If you're not in a fleet you need to stay on top of your game, and you have to plan beforehand carefully aswell - Ship setups require a lot of thought to be good at what you need them to do. Doing some simple math is a good tool to help here. In contrast, most other games simply require you to make simple decisions on what gear you need and what is the best sequence of actions in a certain situation. The same as in EVE, but the planning beforehand almost completely dissapears, and therein lies the big difference.
Does EVE require you to be more intelligent?
No.
However, it does require you to "think" more, as it were. You just have to do more to do the equivalent of an action in another game, if you want to simplify it like that.
Playing: WF
Played: WoW, GW2, L2, WAR, AoC, DnL (2005), GW, LotRO, EQ2, TOR, CoH (RIP), STO, TSW, TERA, EVE, ESO, BDO
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