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Weapon Stockpiles, people preparing for rebellion in U.S for many years?

The other day my U.S history teacher was talking about gun control or something, and somehow he stumbled upon a strange topic. He said that there are people who have been buying guns, ammunition, everything and stockpiling it in warehouses, waiting for the day of rebellion. And, that rich organizations are funding it. He said it has been going on for many, many years. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of anything like this? 

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  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    No, they're preparing for WWZ.

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  • Thanatosx33Thanatosx33 Member Posts: 183
    Convenient, I don't like him anyways...heh.
  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Thanatosx33


    The other day my U.S history teacher was talking about gun control or something, and somehow he stumbled upon a strange topic. He said that there are people who have been buying guns, ammunition, everything and stockpiling it in warehouses, waiting for the day of rebellion. And, that rich organizations are funding it. He said it has been going on for many, many years. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of anything like this? 
    Also,


    Sounds like your "teacher" was trying to tell ya something lol..Anyways I have heard of such things but just rumors.





    Hell in the Declaration of Indepence it even gives these people a reason to try to overthrow the government, read this.





    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security







    Now many people will say but our Government is not really that bad, but when you look at it neither was the British government back then, all the basicly wanted was for the colonies to pay their taxes...

    ------------------------------
    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857

    Is it true that people stockpile weaponry? of course

    Is it true that a small portion of them may be preparing for a rebellion? Probably, there have always been nutjobs and there always will be

    Is a rebellion, or any kind of major conspiracy to rebell likely to happen? Not under the present circumstances.

     

    Most of the serious stockpilers probably have something else in mind to prepare for, most likely WWIII

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • VashnerVashner Member Posts: 58

    America is the revolution..

    We threw out the Kingdom of England and France...

    This is why in England you can't own a gun. Not even if your a bobbie policeman with like

    25 years on the job in a gang infested area where the perps have guns. ..

     

    America likes guns.. we have always had them so this is nothing new.

    I think Thomas Jefferson once said to his Nephew.. "The pistol, master it's use and carry it always"...

     

     

  • kaibigan34kaibigan34 Member Posts: 1,508
    People have been stockpiling weapons for quite awhile. There are some that do it because they like shooting and others that do it because they think the government is going to fall. A mate of mine has an arsenal that would make the entire US Marines wet. This guy has more weapons the most police forces. But he does it because he likes going and shooting.



    However there is also something else really bad on the horizon. I was watching a documentary and it made me start doing some research. By 2016 the world will be having serious issues with gas and oil. More so then now. Even to the point of rationing and such. This could cause alot of fighting and worse. Most people think oil will last forever. Even with the recent hike in prices still people dont realize just how bad it could get if we keep burning this stuff like we are.



    Kai
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    My Californian mate carries an M4 and a rambo knife with him in his car and has a big tank of petrol buried under his lawn.
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived.  ~Abraham Lincoln
  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816
    Originally posted by Vashner


    America is the revolution..
    We threw out the Kingdom of England and France...
    This is why in England you can't own a gun. Not even if your a bobbie policeman with like
    25 years on the job in a gang infested area where the perps have guns. ..
     
    America likes guns.. we have always had them so this is nothing new.
    I think Thomas Jefferson once said to his Nephew.. "The pistol, master it's use and carry it always"...
     
     



    I own a gun.... and have a licence for it.

    in the UK we can have guns just not "assault" weapons or hand guns. You have to have a licence before you own a gun and that involves having an advance disclosure police check, also I have a gun powder licence (i use flintlock guns to shoot as a hobby) that too needs police checks.

    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    I own some guns too.
  • VashnerVashner Member Posts: 58

    Don't get me wrong, God save the queen and all.

    My grandfather fought for England and stayed there a few years after WWII as well.

    My point was just about governement and fear of an armed populace.

    Without getting too into domestic U.S. politics. If the original poster someone was under the

    illusion that some groups of people where stocking up for overthrow..

    Well it's not the Skeletor (Pelosi) and Hillary crowd. They are anti gun. Most democrats don't like guns.

    Repugs are the ones out there mostly stocking up. Just so that you have your "overthrow" perspective on.

    I think it should be the choice of each household and state to decide on laws and ownership.

     

  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Originally posted by Thanatosx33


    The other day my U.S history teacher was talking about gun control or something, and somehow he stumbled upon a strange topic. He said that there are people who have been buying guns, ammunition, everything and stockpiling it in warehouses, waiting for the day of rebellion. And, that rich organizations are funding it. He said it has been going on for many, many years. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of anything like this? 
    Also,


    Sounds like your "teacher" was trying to tell ya something lol..Anyways I have heard of such things but just rumors.





    Hell in the Declaration of Indepence it even gives these people a reason to try to overthrow the government, read this.





    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security







    Now many people will say but our Government is not really that bad, but when you look at it neither was the British government back then, all the basicly wanted was for the colonies to pay their taxes...



    i just had a thought if a citizen of the USA shoot dead bush would it be murder or liberation of the free world? i mean everything discribed above fits for bush

    1 he has never won an election yet is still in power

    2 he has isolated the US from most of the world

    3 he has unlawfully spyed on his own people

    im not saying go do it but i am saying his assasination would be a legal mine field.....

    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    Originally posted by viadi

    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Originally posted by Thanatosx33


    The other day my U.S history teacher was talking about gun control or something, and somehow he stumbled upon a strange topic. He said that there are people who have been buying guns, ammunition, everything and stockpiling it in warehouses, waiting for the day of rebellion. And, that rich organizations are funding it. He said it has been going on for many, many years. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of anything like this? 
    Also,


    Sounds like your "teacher" was trying to tell ya something lol..Anyways I have heard of such things but just rumors.





    Hell in the Declaration of Indepence it even gives these people a reason to try to overthrow the government, read this.





    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security







    Now many people will say but our Government is not really that bad, but when you look at it neither was the British government back then, all the basicly wanted was for the colonies to pay their taxes...



    i just had a thought if a citizen of the USA shoot dead bush would it be murder or liberation of the free world? i mean everything discribed above fits for bush

    1 he has never won an election yet is still in power

    2 he has isolated the US from most of the world

    3 he has unlawfully spyed on his own people

    im not saying go do it but i am saying his assasination would be a legal mine field.....



    "Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."





    Bush is evil and I hate him but contrary to popular belief he has won two elections proving that most of these people in this country supported the bum. Thats another reason why I feel like alot of countries despise America now, they can't just say we suck now because of Bush, he is not a dictator but was voted by the majority of the people.. So if he sucks, so must they...

    ------------------------------
    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816
    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Originally posted by viadi

    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Originally posted by Thanatosx33


    The other day my U.S history teacher was talking about gun control or something, and somehow he stumbled upon a strange topic. He said that there are people who have been buying guns, ammunition, everything and stockpiling it in warehouses, waiting for the day of rebellion. And, that rich organizations are funding it. He said it has been going on for many, many years. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of anything like this? 
    Also,


    Sounds like your "teacher" was trying to tell ya something lol..Anyways I have heard of such things but just rumors.





    Hell in the Declaration of Indepence it even gives these people a reason to try to overthrow the government, read this.





    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, having its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security







    Now many people will say but our Government is not really that bad, but when you look at it neither was the British government back then, all the basicly wanted was for the colonies to pay their taxes...



    i just had a thought if a citizen of the USA shoot dead bush would it be murder or liberation of the free world? i mean everything discribed above fits for bush

    1 he has never won an election yet is still in power

    2 he has isolated the US from most of the world

    3 he has unlawfully spyed on his own people

    im not saying go do it but i am saying his assasination would be a legal mine field.....


    "Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."





    Bush is evil and I hate him but contrary to popular belief he has won two elections proving that most of these people in this country supported the bum. Thats another reason why I feel like alot of countries despise America now, they can't just say we suck now because of Bush, he is not a dictator but was voted by the majority of the people.. So if he sucks, so must they...



    ok im sorry to tell you this but both times bush lost the "popular vote" and the first time after the courts has named bush as the winner later recounts showed he lost. but i agree people are loosing patience with the american public and are starting to question whats really going on in the great US of A. Myself i blame the bath water the baby is ok

    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • DrunkenWDrunkenW Member Posts: 250
    There wont be an internal conflict in the US for the next 100 years. Your teacher appears to be either crazy, joking or trying to make some sort of point.

    no, your  problems lies elsewhere.  But the potential conflict would be worldwide and obviously not fought by handguns from street to street.
  • LostGraceLostGrace Member Posts: 380
    Originally posted by Vashner


    America is the revolution..
    We threw out the Kingdom of England and France...


     
     
    France never invaded and/or occupied us...

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  • MemenetteMemenette Member Posts: 12
    I think your teacher needs to cut back on the conspiracy theories. Sure, people stockpile weapons, I can believe that. But being funded by large corparations? That doesn't make logical sense. At all. If a corparation wanted to stockpile weapons, they wouldn't be doing it by having consumers as their stashers. If they were planning national takeover (which in itself is ridiculous), wouldn't they be just a bit more crafty about it?



    And why is your teacher telling you about conspiracy theories when he's supposed to be teaching you U.S History?
  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656
    There is some 'positive' data in regards to guns & murder etc in the USA, such as

    "
    Between 1993-1999, gun deaths in the United States have declined 27%. (SOURCE: www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars/default.htm, WISQARS, National Center for Injury Control and Prevention, accessed March, 2002.)"



    I guess one could ask if it's risen again since 1999 though, which wouldn't be so positive...




    But then, there's other elements of gun 'freedom' that make me VERY happy to be living in a country with very heavy gun ownership controls.

    Such as:


    Gun Deaths - International Comparisons

    Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

                                            Homicide                Suicide            Unintentional

    USA                      4.08 (1999)          6.08 (1999)              0.42 (1999)

    Canada                 0.54 (1999)          2.65 (1997)              0.15 (1997)

    Switzerland           0.50 (1999)          5.78 (1998)                     -

    Scotland                0.12 (1999)          0.27 (1999)               -

    England/Wales      0.12 (1999/00)      0.22 (1999)             0.01 (1999)

    Japan                    0.04* (1998)        0.04 (1995)           <0.01 (1997)

    * Homicide & attempted homicide by handgun

    Data collected by Philip Alpers, Harvard Injury Control Research Center, and HELP Network

    www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm


    Hardly something to be proud of, and definitely not an endorsement of gun freedom. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of your society?



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    Oh. My. God.

  • Thanatosx33Thanatosx33 Member Posts: 183
    Originally posted by Memenette

    I think your teacher needs to cut back on the conspiracy theories. Sure, people stockpile weapons, I can believe that. But being funded by large corparations? That doesn't make logical sense. At all. If a corparation wanted to stockpile weapons, they wouldn't be doing it by having consumers as their stashers. If they were planning national takeover (which in itself is ridiculous), wouldn't they be just a bit more crafty about it?



    And why is your teacher telling you about conspiracy theories when he's supposed to be teaching you U.S History?



    I never said big corperations were using consumers as stashers. From what i heard, he said they were most likely being stashed in warehouses or something.

    Idk why he was talking about  it, but I know history ties in with the present, which is the only reason we have history in the first place.

    IMO I think that there probably are probably lots of weapons being stashed in warehouses, and many probably funded by rich organizations, maybe even celebraties. Look at how many anti-gov't bands there are out there. They could easily invest in something like this. As far as there actually being a civil revolt in the U.S, I think it's probable... I don't think America has reached QUITE that extreme of conditions in which it might be necessary yet, but the way things are going I think they will get that way. People are getting curious, as someone posted on here...They are wondering just what the heck our government is doing. The only thing is, I think may WW3 happen before then. Idk...people are realy upset with our govt as of now, but  to my knowledge none have gotten radical yet.

  • hazmatshazmats Member Posts: 1,081

    See, the problem with that whole theory you got there, is that all this conspiracy stuff exists pretty much only on the internet. If you judge the US by the population that uses the internet and frequents places like this and others, then you you're right.

    Except most people don't.

  • ArremusArremus Member Posts: 656
    Originally posted by Thanatosx33 
    The only thing is, I think may WW3 happen before then. Idk...people are realy upset with our govt as of now, but  to my knowledge none have gotten radical yet.
    www.macleans.ca/topstories/world/article.jsp

    As to whether WW3 is actually underway is up for debate, and has been debated for years. It's like the "coming civil war" in Iraq. How long can it be coming before they finally admit it's already here.

    On the reverse side though, talking up a WW3-in-stages can be a highly effective political tool.



    All in all, no one can tell you what is coming, what to believe, who to trust. You need to do a lot of reading around, talking to people, questioning your society-set beliefs and make up your mind for yourself.



    Personally, if 'radicals' and 'extremists' are stockpiling weapons in your country, I don't personally think it'll be to use against your own government. Why would a government let automatically guns become so rampant in their own country?



    But then, the future is up for grabs.

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    "(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush.
    Oh. My. God.

  • -Zeno--Zeno- Member CommonPosts: 1,298
    Yes, stockpiles of weapons that are buried do exist.



    Amendment 2 in the bill of rights is there for a reason.


    The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

  • asupermaneasupermane Member Posts: 682

    I live in Kentucky, and I have about a dozen guns in my gun shelf.  My grandpa has another dozen also.

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  • Gane1Gane1 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Arremus

    Gun Deaths - International Comparisons


    Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):



                                            Homicide                Suicide            Unintentional
    USA                      4.08 (1999)          6.08 (1999)              0.42 (1999)
    Canada                 0.54 (1999)          2.65 (1997)              0.15 (1997)
    Switzerland           0.50 (1999)          5.78 (1998)                     -
    Scotland                0.12 (1999)          0.27 (1999)               -
    England/Wales      0.12 (1999/00)      0.22 (1999)             0.01 (1999)
    Japan                    0.04* (1998)        0.04 (1995)           <0.01 (1997)
    * Homicide & attempted homicide by handgun

    Data collected by Philip Alpers, Harvard Injury Control Research Center, and HELP Network

    www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm




    Hardly something to be proud of, and definitely not an endorsement of gun freedom. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of your society?



    I agree we have a high murder rate, but it stems farther back than gun control issues. Americans are a huge group of ethnic minorities, that at one point, and still to an extent, dislike each other. Back in the 1600's criminals would be shipped off to the new world to work off their debts or crimes. Not to mention that most immigrants who come to America today do so, because they are poor or in a terrible situation in their home country.



    If you put all of those things together your bound to have high crime rates. The only thing that binds Americans together is the love of freedom, and with freedom there are always going to be consequences. I sort of agree that it is a reflection of our society, but we did not create this society, Europe did, most notably England. I suppose it is more of a reflection of the problems of colonialism. I guarantee you that Europe would have higher crime rates if the United States did not exist, with or without gun control.









  • ACE777ACE777 Member UncommonPosts: 205
    Originally posted by Gane1

    Originally posted by Arremus

    Gun Deaths - International Comparisons


    Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):



                                            Homicide                Suicide            Unintentional
    USA                      4.08 (1999)          6.08 (1999)              0.42 (1999)
    Canada                 0.54 (1999)          2.65 (1997)              0.15 (1997)
    Switzerland           0.50 (1999)          5.78 (1998)                     -
    Scotland                0.12 (1999)          0.27 (1999)               -
    England/Wales      0.12 (1999/00)      0.22 (1999)             0.01 (1999)
    Japan                    0.04* (1998)        0.04 (1995)           <0.01 (1997)
    * Homicide & attempted homicide by handgun

    Data collected by Philip Alpers, Harvard Injury Control Research Center, and HELP Network

    www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm




    Hardly something to be proud of, and definitely not an endorsement of gun freedom. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of your society?



    I agree we have a high murder rate, but it stems farther back than gun control issues. Americans are a huge group of ethnic minorities, that at one point, and still to an extent, dislike each other. Back in the 1600's criminals would be shipped off to the new world to work off their debts or crimes. Not to mention that most immigrants who come to America today do so, because they are poor or in a terrible situation in their home country.



    If you put all of those things together your bound to have high crime rates. The only thing that binds Americans together is the love of freedom, and with freedom there are always going to be consequences. I sort of agree that it is a reflection of our society, but we did not create this society, Europe did, most notably England. I suppose it is more of a reflection of the problems of colonialism. I guarantee you that Europe would have higher crime rates if the United States did not exist, with or without gun control.









    The US is NOT the world's prisoner dump.



    It may have been in 1620, but now it is an actual country.  Same goes for Australia, which unlike colonial America WAS a penal colony, and had a 100% population of criminals and debtors.



    What is all this race war nonsense?  This isn't 1840, there isn't blood spilled in the streets over race issues.

    "Kaneda! What...do you see?"

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