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I really wanted to play this game...

but I am NOT going to buy a new computer to play it...



My computer runs every single game I've ever wanted to play up until now, so not being able to play Vanguard - Saga of Hype is not the end of the world... there are still plenty of games I CAN play... :)



The little bit of the game I did manage to see has convinced me that even if I  had a killer system I still probably wouldn't like this game... I can't stand EQ2 but if I only had a choice between EQ2 and Vanguard I'd choose EQ2... (thank goodness there are other MMORPG's out there besides EQ2 and Vanguard!...)



Just my 2 pesos...

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  • Smithy021Smithy021 Member Posts: 41
    just a fyi.. pesos arnt worth shit so i dont think this post means any thing.. lol <--- me being a smart ass
  • sunisuni Member Posts: 59
    I figured I'd get a smart-ass reply but I didn't think it would make me laugh, hehe... :)



    Yeah, my post doesn't mean anything but it doesn't mean any less than anybody elses opinion... (IMO haha)
  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    I'm curious.  Did you try the performance tweaks in the beta forum?  Also, you should realize that the beta build will most like perform worse than the release game because they are running background software and stress tests.  Don't get me wrong.  I don't like the game myself, but for other reasons.  However, there's no way that the released game will have the same performance issues post launch.
  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489
    Originally posted by suni

    but I am NOT going to buy a new computer to play it...



    My computer runs every single game I've ever wanted to play up until now, so not being able to play Vanguard - Saga of Hype is not the end of the world... there are still plenty of games I CAN play... :)



    The little bit of the game I did manage to see has convinced me that even if I  had a killer system I still probably wouldn't like this game... I can't stand EQ2 but if I only had a choice between EQ2 and Vanguard I'd choose EQ2... (thank goodness there are other MMORPG's out there besides EQ2 and Vanguard!...)



    Just my 2 pesos...



    I have an Average Comp at best, and I have ZERO issues playing it. Following basic recommendations for gaming was all I had to do. Honestly, if you can't play Vanguard, you need a new Comp, or will be forced to buy one to play any game coming out this year.

    That's how it goes with gaming PC's... this is my second build of my 3rd machine...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • sunisuni Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

    I'm curious.  Did you try the performance tweaks in the beta forum?  Also, you should realize that the beta build will most like perform worse than the release game because they are running background software and stress tests.  Don't get me wrong.  I don't like the game myself, but for other reasons.  However, there's no way that the released game will have the same performance issues post launch.
    Yep, I tried all the tweaks but my system just won't run it.



    I realize it is beta. I've beta tested numerous games. I'm in beta for another up and coming (NDA) MMORPG at the present time also.



    I, as well as you, don't like the game for other reasons. I'll give them several months or a year or so to get their act together and when I upgrade my system and if I'm bored with whatever I'm playing I might purchase it. But not now.



     I understand the eagerness some people have to play this game. I've felt it before with previous games. I just don't feel it for this game. There are lots of nice games available for playing so the sun will not rise or set for me depending on whether or not I play this game.

  • sunisuni Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by MX13


    I have an Average Comp at best, and I have ZERO issues playing it. Following basic recommendations for gaming was all I had to do.


    How nice for you! :)




    Honestly, if you can't play Vanguard, you need a new Comp...


    Wrong! My computer plays every other game just fine. *smile*



  • mtmugmtmug Member Posts: 6

    The game is the Next Dark and light right now. It is advertised as 3rd gen but doesn’t use SLI or many new PC features. Save your money and give it 6 months to a year and check back. The code is poorly done and the advertising for the game has been done by a bunch of amateurs. Give em time see if they can dig themselves out of the hole they are in.
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

     

    No, sorry, you're dead wrong. When your rig can handle the game the animations are fluid and realistic.

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  • sunisuni Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by mtmug


    The game is the Next Dark and light right now. It is advertised as 3rd gen but doesn’t use SLI or many new PC features. Save your money and give it 6 months to a year and check back. The code is poorly done and the advertising for the game has been done by a bunch of amateurs. Give em time see if they can dig themselves out of the hole they are in.
    Exactly my sentiments. The best thing about this game is the hype.



    I feel bad for the developers of this game and I really hope they can pull it off. I know they wanted to make a really good game, but at this point in time the game isn't even mediocre in my opinion.



    It is not a game I will pay for at this time. But I haven't written it off completely. Like I said in another post, I will wait several months or a year and if I am bored with my current game I might look into this one again. I hope I am pleasantly surprised.
  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by suni

    but I am NOT going to buy a new computer to play it...



    My computer runs every single game I've ever wanted to play up until now, so not being able to play Vanguard - Saga of Hype is not the end of the world... there are still plenty of games I CAN play... :)



    The little bit of the game I did manage to see has convinced me that even if I  had a killer system I still probably wouldn't like this game... I can't stand EQ2 but if I only had a choice between EQ2 and Vanguard I'd choose EQ2... (thank goodness there are other MMORPG's out there besides EQ2 and Vanguard!...)



    Just my 2 pesos...
    What system do you have? And what level did you get to to come to the conclusion that even if you did manage to play at a decent framrate you wouldn't like it?

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  • FullMetalAlcFullMetalAlc Member UncommonPosts: 217
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

     

    No, sorry, you're dead wrong. When your rig can handle the game the animations are fluid and realistic.



    Funny you should say that, IMHO I think your avatar is dead wrong. Nothing says kool-aid drinking mouth breather like a picture of Al Pacino as Scarface.  Don't even get me started on the sig. At least stay with the program and make a little "Shay herro to my wittle Fwend", lol come to think of it reminds me of that one goofy Vanguard GM that talks like he's a mentally challanged muppet baby, I smell a hidden agenda here... You are that GM aren't you!?
  • SerothSeroth Member Posts: 10
    The best part is that as you said you didn't even manage to play the game or you played a little....

    Now you cant really talk about developers need to get out of their hole and that the game is mediocre and it is like dnl.



    How can you judge something you don't know about in first hand.



    There are a LOT  of ppl who can play vg and they are having fun with it.



    as they are a LOT of ppl who don't like it but at least some of them they have played quite a lot and have a clue.



    With a geforce 6(ranging from 6200-6800) , 1 giga ram, a p4 or athlon fx above 2giga the game is playable with the right settings.

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  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

     

    No, sorry, you're dead wrong. When your rig can handle the game the animations are fluid and realistic.



    People who don't post their specs already know why the game won't run well

     

  • sololocosololoco Member Posts: 542

    While I do agree no one should have to buy a new computer to play a game or even spend hundreds of dollars (like I'm doing, unfortunately),  especially if that computer plays all the other games in the gaming world without any real problems.  I do think and I hope Vanguard will be better adjusted once it starts.  And even then it probably will take a bit for the kinks to be ironed out.

    I've played many games in either beta or and at launch and I don't know of any that didn't have lots of problems at and around that time. It takes time, now whether you want to go thru' that storm or come in later when it passes is up to the indiviual themselves.

    I was thinking why did this game have to be so high in playing it ?  But then I realized many of the new games coming out will also require a lot more to play.  I've checked out a few of the upcoming games and some of their specs are even higher then this one.

    Everything moves up with time and games are also included.

  • JaerinCosmosJaerinCosmos Member Posts: 34
    Sorry but my computer can handle the game and I still think the animations are poor as crap.  Hell, I enjoyed the animations in EQ2 more than VG (compare the monks in both games).  Heck if you want to see '3rd Generation' MMO style animations go look at Gods and Heroes. 
  • sololocosololoco Member Posts: 542

    Well, I think taste is up to an indiviual themselves.  I also played EQ2 but I didn't think it was all that great, the animations, the colors and everything else was the same as every other game of its kind.

    Now, I haven't been in this game but judging from the pictures I've seen (if this counts) I think it looks way better then WoW (cartoony) or EQ2 (constant loading everytime you want to go somewhere).

    But like I said, to each his own.  Like they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

  • JaerinCosmosJaerinCosmos Member Posts: 34


    "Now, I haven't been in this game but judging from the pictures I've seen (if this counts) I think it looks way better then WoW (cartoony) or EQ2 (constant loading everytime you want to go somewhere)."





    So you haven't actually played the game yet you're going to comment on how it's better in certain aspects than current games?  While I will agree that the game looks better than WoW (by far...hated those graphics) and EQ2 the animations are piss poor for a game that is supposedly YEARS more advanced.  EQ2 animations (spell, combat, npc, etc) were more interesting and entertaining than the robotic and lifeless animations of VG.  Given that I absolutely love the Monk class I was severely disappointed with the animations for that class as well as other classes in the game.  Some of the polearm/staff animations are so poor that it almost looks like instead of being in battle the character is just trying to give that nasty ol' mob a light tap on the head.



    I really want to like this game because of all the things I DO like about it (boats, player housing, crafting, & diplomacy) but the actual day to day gameplay is lackluster.  Given the poor animations, lack of lore, lifeless areas of the world, FPS issues many are having (not me), lack of voice acting (which I very much enjoyed about EQ2...even if that game was a snore), and the many other issues that persist VG I just don't see the game being a big hit unless these issues are magically fixed in the first month after release. 



    Many of these issues could be fixed in a couple months easily (I can easily live without voice acting) but given the game is slated for release at the end of this month many gamers will try the game at release (or are trying it now) and will see the game just isn't ready and will leave.  Most of them will never return because of that initial bad experience.
  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by sololoco


    Well, I think taste is up to an indiviual themselves.  I also played EQ2 but I didn't think it was all that great, the animations, the colors and everything else was the same as every other game of its kind.
    Now, I haven't been in this game but judging from the pictures I've seen (if this counts) I think it looks way better then WoW (cartoony) or EQ2 (constant loading everytime you want to go somewhere).
    But like I said, to each his own.  Like they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

    What the? You haven't even played VG?!

    Oh man, well if you think the animations in EQ2 were bad, I got news for ya. And why so much defense from you if you haven't even played the game? I thought the game looked great too until I played it.

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

     

    No, sorry, you're dead wrong. When your rig can handle the game the animations are fluid and realistic.

    Really? Because they are borked even on the developers movies.

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  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Zekiah

    You know, that's a good point and I had a similar dilemma. My card is outdated and I considered buying a new one to play VG but then I thought, do I really want to even play this game? Well the answer is no, I don't want to play this game. Even with better performance, the same clunky, cheesy animations are going to be there and I'd rather not see anymore of those so why bother.

     

    No, sorry, you're dead wrong. When your rig can handle the game the animations are fluid and realistic.

    Well, I suppose some people like jerky, boxed animations from days of old, I do not. I've been playing MMO's for years and I know what good animations and gameplay look like. A lot of people with good "rigs" are saying the same thing. If you want to see fluid, check out AoC, and for that matter any other MMO out there right now pretty much. No sense in arguing this point though, if you like those animations then by all means play...

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

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