Looking to Find the Next Addiction

Traelin

OK I'm an old school D&Der (yeah, pen and paper), and have been looking for a game to grab my attention for more than 2 months of casual play (read: WoW).  I admit I'm a picky gamer, in that the only games/series that were ever awe-inspiring for me were: Duris DIKU MUD, Forgotten Realms/Savage Frontier GoldBox series, Baldur's Gate series, and Civilization.  Other than that, games have been installed and uninstalled from my hard drive at a whim.

I am dying to find a game that imps D&D well in the online community, as well as FFA PvP.  Without rehashing all the flaming on this and other boards, could some more objective people give me feedback on DDO?

Thanks!

Lastera

You might want to go back to WoW because DDO isn't offer anything you haven't seen in other games. Community is nice, but very small. The gameplay can get repetitive and every quest, whether in the sewer or outside, feels like a dungeon. To get to the so-called juicy and new content, you have to get further in the game if you aren't bored to death by the early quests. PvP is dead, thanks to the fact that classes are extremely imbalanced, there are no level restrictions and there are rewards. There is absolutely no roleplaying unless you find a roleplay guild, which is ironic since DnD was created as a roleplaying game. There is currently 12 levels with 4 ranks each. There aren't feats to get so don't expect too many variations between the next person's build. Without the 20 or so levels, you'll gimp your character if try to cross-class. Your decision and actions don't affect your gameplay at all or player alignment. (You can't go from lawful good to chaotic evil) In fact, you can only be good and neutral characters.



Many people you meet have been through the game several times so don't be surprised that they know the dungeons like the back of their hand. Last, but not least, the graphics aren't too great. No matter how much you redender the graphics, the artwork will still be ugly. I'm telling you this not to discourage you, but I'm telling you this so you'll know what to expect. Go to DDO.com and check out the free-trial try the game for yourself before you buy. Last, but not least, don't bother coming to these forums, if you're looking for an active forum. It gets depressing here and very negative. Instead, I insist you post at the DDO forum at DDO.com for more active and positive responses.

Tyrranosaur

Hmmm, I think I should provide a different take on DDO for contrast. I'm a veteran D&D player since 1980 and I've also been playing WoW for 2 years and Guild Wars for 1 year (for contrast).

DDO does have the D20 system in place, and emulates it very well; the previous post mentioned no feats....I'm not sure why, the feats are there. You can build your character entirely from familiarity with the D20 system. The game adds some elements that are unique to the game: more starting hit points, an achiement system for buying enhancements (you get one per rank) that are like mini-feats, additional perks not available in standard D&D, and the leveling system is revamped; yes, you advance 12 levels in game, but you must achieve 5 ranks between levels, gaining one enhancement point per rank. Advancement is verrrry slow in the game imo, more like 1st/2nd edition AD&D than the 3.5 edition of the game.

The game has a great method of handling dungeons/instances, allowing for scaled adventures where you choose to go solo, easy, medium or hard levels. This is an obvious side effect of the easy scaling system from D20. It has allowed me to enjoy solo games more often when I don't have time or interest to group. My girlfriend groups all the time however, and has more overall success than I do, so go figure.....I like to take it easy, and I have a penchant for being a loner.

Many people in this game have played through almost everything multiple times with multiple characters. I consider that a sign that it's fun, and fun worth repeating. I have a hard time running my third WoW character through the same quests I've done over and over again, in contrast; DDO has more staying power imo.

Instances are more fun in my experience. The dungeons are all unique in design, and have more stuff you can do (traps, storyline that progresses, more enemies, ladders, levers, switches, more traps, hidden areas, etc.). In contrast to WoW, which has basic templates for dungeons and for which all themed dungeons boil down to "enter and kill everything while possibly collecting item X" play.

The game has some downsides, I feel: The RP community does seem to be slim, I haven't seen any RPers anywhere, and I know they exist, I just don't know where. No servers are specced for RPers, alas. The community is "small" compared to WoW, yes....but it's still something like 200,000 strong according to figures I saw at that site which tracks such data (I forget the link, sorry). That makes it about the size of an average MMO, but not in the same league as he local 8 million ton gorilla. On the plus side, I am on Thelanis server, an people here are remarkably friendly an normal.....I have not seen any of the spamming l337 crud in general chat like is common in WoW.

Graphically, I think he game looks awesome, much better than WoW....but I've seen it on my girlfriend's computer, which is a nice rig. On my somewhat lesser PC the graphics look like hell, but I'm just happy it can run. I will be upgrading my graphics card soon, since I know what it can look like. So for graphics, if you think they suck, it's because your card is old...the graphics look beautiful on newer systems.

DDO also has issues, I feel, with the fact that the game should have been more open, more like WoW in terms of explorable content and areas. The bulk of the game is city-based, and the outdoor adventuring isn't nearly as prominent as I would have liked. The fact that most adventuring is done in instances is also a shame; you can't have that spontaneous "hey, wanna help me out here?" moment that often happens in the open-world environs of WoW. Guild Wars has the same problem....no group, no accidental meetings of convenience.

Overall though, I really love DDO. It's not the same experience as WoW.....and while I love Neverwinter Nights, and which DDO had a bit more of the feel of that game, I still prefer playing it over NWN and other D&D predecessors. Hope this assesment helps!

Sevenwind

The graphics are awesome in this game if you have the high-res textures installed. Cap/Lastera has only played the trial and the trial does NOT have the high-res textures installed. I can tell the difference between the high-res and non high res big time.

Cap/Lastera will probably post and say he/she installed the game with a friends DVD version of the game for the trial, but what it comes down to is graphics is a matter of opinion.

Many people that you do meet know the dungeons. If your new tell them you are new and I bet they will slow down and walk you through. I'm new to the game still working my way up to lvl 12. I tell the groups I get into with new dungeons that it is my first time and so far everyone of them has taken their time to explain what to expect and not run off in every direction.

Try the trial. If you like it buy the dvd version off amazon.com for nine dollars if your system can do the high-res textures.

Lastera

Originally posted by Tyrranosaur


Hmmm, I think I should provide a different take on DDO for contrast. I'm a veteran D&D player since 1980 and I've also been playing WoW for 2 years and Guild Wars for 1 year (for contrast).
DDO does have the D20 system in place, and emulates it very well; the previous post mentioned no feats....I'm not sure why, the feats are there. You can build your character entirely from familiarity with the D20 system. The game adds some elements that are unique to the game: more starting hit points, an achiement system for buying enhancements (you get one per rank) that are like mini-feats, additional perks not available in standard D&D, and the leveling system is revamped; yes, you advance 12 levels in game, but you must achieve 5 ranks between levels, gaining one enhancement point per rank. Advancement is verrrry slow in the game imo, more like 1st/2nd edition AD&D than the 3.5 edition of the game.
The advancement is slow because Turbine has to drawn the game out for more of a fun factor. The game isn't perfect translation. Some feat work differently than 3.5 rules. For example, mobility only works when tumbling.


The game has a great method of handling dungeons/instances, allowing for scaled adventures where you choose to go solo, easy, medium or hard levels. This is an obvious side effect of the easy scaling system from D20. It has allowed me to enjoy solo games more often when I don't have time or interest to group. My girlfriend groups all the time however, and has more overall success than I do, so go figure.....I like to take it easy, and I have a penchant for being a loner.



Solo is limited to level 1 to 3 quests.




Many people in this game have played through almost everything multiple times with multiple characters. I consider that a sign that it's fun, and fun worth repeating. I have a hard time running my third WoW character through the same quests I've done over and over again, in contrast; DDO has more staying power imo.


You can't replay quest in WoW, you can only participate with those who haven't done the quest.
Instances are more fun in my experience. The dungeons are all unique in design, and have more stuff you can do (traps, storyline that progresses, more enemies, ladders, levers, switches, more traps, hidden areas, etc.). In contrast to WoW, which has basic templates for dungeons and for which all themed dungeons boil down to "enter and kill everything while possibly collecting item X" play.


Dungeons are all the same, especially in the beginning. Again, you probably have to buy the game to see more of the content.
The game has some downsides, I feel: The RP community does seem to be slim, I haven't seen any RPers anywhere, and I know they exist, I just don't know where. No servers are specced for RPers, alas. The community is "small" compared to WoW, yes....but it's still something like 200,000 strong according to figures I saw at that site which tracks such data (I forget the link, sorry). That makes it about the size of an average MMO, but not in the same league as he local 8 million ton gorilla. On the plus side, I am on Thelanis server, an people here are remarkably friendly an normal.....I have not seen any of the spamming l337 crud in general chat like is common in WoW.


Actually, it has under 90,000 players. MMOGchart.com has kept up with the figure to DDO. Information is a year old: http://turbine.tentonhammer.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=317&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0.


They dropped since launch and their current figures are unknown. Right now, DDO is in the same state as EQ, which is a stable population. As for other RP elements not mention here, Diplomacy skill doesn't work too well with NPCs and Cha has little influence on how you appeal to the NPCs. Intelligence has little influence here as well except in Dungeons and skill points. (depending on your class)


A lot of the skills only really work in the dungeon anyway.


DDO also has issues, I feel, with the fact that the game should have been more open, more like WoW in terms of explorable content and areas. The bulk of the game is city-based, and the outdoor adventuring isn't nearly as prominent as I would have liked. The fact that most adventuring is done in instances is also a shame; you can't have that spontaneous "hey, wanna help me out here?" moment that often happens in the open-world environs of WoW. Guild Wars has the same problem....no group, no accidental meetings of convenience.


You have social panel to find group, but people can be jerks towards you depending on your class. Not that you won't find a party, but your class can really hinder from getting a group on the spot. You'll end waiting almost to an hour. Late night on weekdays there is hardly anyone on. During holidays and weekends is the only time population is decent. You're gameplay will be reduce to hour or less a day as most parties you meet will only stay together for 1 or 2 quests.


Don't ask for a slow down, because most parties you find in the beginning won't even slow down for you even if you ask. They are more concerned with getting through normal to elite. Really, it all depends on who you meet how slow they'll go.

Sevenwind

This has to be the biggest BS I think you've posted yet. Your class will NOT hinder your from finding a party. Your lack of social skills will. If you can't communicate well with others or learn to make your own groups then this game is NOT for you.

I have a bard and a wiz. My bard is my main and wiz is my alt. Neither has any problems whatsoever in finding and getting into groups. And I play on Riedra this person claims is empty. I have never waited more than 15 minutes to find a group or form my own and get the necessary people. If anything my server is short on is clerics which is usually the spot we end up waiting for the most to proceed into the dungeon.

If you have ignorant people who will not accept you cause of your class then trust me you are better off not grouping with them. I have never been turned away from a group because of my class

The holidays SUCK for finding groups in any mmorpg. I have EQ2 account as well and during christmas/new years it was a lot more empty than it is during the rest of the year.

And your party will stay together a lot longer depending what quests your running. If your running simple short small favor quests in the houses then yeah those usually tend to lose people between each dungeon and I've had little slow down in finding a replacement person to fill the spot. If you run long quests like Catacombs, Delera, Thernal then your group will probably be in it for the long haul. OMG it is the exact same thing in EQ2 and COH/COV!!!

As I said before if  you say you are new and to take it slow most groups/people will slow down for you. I am still new to this game working my way up to 12 and I have yet to come across a person that turned me down for a group because I have never done the dungeon before.

Originally posted by Lastera





You have social panel to find group, but people can be jerks towards you depending on your class. Not that you won't find a party, but your class can really hinder from getting a group on the spot. You'll end waiting almost to an hour. Late night on weekdays there is hardly anyone on. During holidays and weekends is the only time population is decent. You're gameplay will be reduce to hour or less a day as most parties you meet will only stay together for 1 or 2 quests.


Don't ask for a slow down, because most parties you find in the beginning won't even slow down for you even if you ask. They are more concerned with getting through normal to elite. Really, it all depends on who you meet.

Lastera

Originally posted by Sevenwind


This has to be the biggest BS I think you've posted yet. Your class will NOT hinder your from finding a party. Your lack of social skills will. If you can't communicate well with others or learn to make your own groups then this game is NOT for you.


The BS is your failure to prove he'll have guarantee place in a group. Nope, groups may not be looking for your class. If you're a Fighte for example and they already have 2 paladin in the group, you're not a guarantee spot in. In one instance, a sorcerer was kicked out of a run in Waterwork on Hard for cleric.




I have a bard and a wiz. My bard is my main and wiz is my alt. Neither has any problems whatsoever in finding and getting into groups.


Another thing, person here neglect to tell is if you have friends or you are part of guild, you'll find group easier in case Sevenwind. If you're newbie or a guildless "ronin", you'll find getting a party difficult and you often run into a PUG.


And I play on Riedra this person claims is empty.


I never claimed that. You're referring to CaptainRPG.


I have never waited more than 15 minutes to find a group or form my own and get the necessary people. If anything my server is short on is clerics which is usually the spot we end up waiting for the most to proceed into the dungeon.
You'll find yourself waiting up to an hour depending on your class. One monday night last December, my character wait 1 full hour responding to ad in the social panel. Most of the groups were looking for healer, not tanks until one group going into WW invited me. Unfortunately, I did WW twice prior to meeting that group. Another thing to expect out of this game is repeating quest you probably beaten 2 to 3 times. This is only bd if you don't like repetition.


If you have ignorant people who will not accept you cause of your class then trust me you are better off not grouping with them. I have never been turned away from a group because of my class
The holidays SUCK for finding groups in any mmorpg. I have EQ2 account as well and during christmas/new years it was a lot more empty than it is during the rest of the year.


I actually found groups better on holiday than I do week nights.
And your party will stay together a lot longer depending what quests your running. If your running simple short small favor quests in the houses then yeah those usually tend to lose people between each dungeon and I've had little slow down in finding a replacement person to fill the spot. If you run long quests like Catacombs, Delera, Thernal then your group will probably be in it for the long haul. OMG it is the exact same thing in EQ2 and COH/COV!!!


Slow down, wind, he's just beginning the game.
As I said before if  you say you are new and to take it slow most groups/people will slow down for you. I am still new to this game working my way up to 12 and I have yet to come across a person that turned me down for a group because I have never done the dungeon before.


Depends on what group you meet, that they'll go your speed. I've been in groups who didn't care to stop to ask anyone how to proceed on a quest. They did however stop to wait till you enter the quest so they could end it allowing you to gain XP. Powergaming so to speak.

merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

Sevenwind

I never guaranteed anyone a group. I said your class will NOT hinder you from finding a group. Sure you can look on the social panel and see some groups just wanting a certain class cause the rest are filled up. OMG big deal!

If you cannot find a group MAKE ONE! If you lack the social skills to make a group then this game is not for you. If you stood around for an hour waiting for a group, then lastera I feel sorry for you. Learn to communicate or make a group.

If I was ever kicked out of a group to make room for someone I promise I you I would not group with those people again.

I didn't join a guild till lvl 6. And my low lvl wiz is unguilded, and again has NO PROBLEMS FINDING A GROUP. Do I need to make it in bold for you to stop with the BS?

Seriously if you are new to the game and cannot find a group then make one, and in the little area to describe what you are doing say your new and wanting to learn the game. It takes people to make groups, they just don't magically appear for people to join.

I wanted to do catacombs one night and no one was running it. So I made a group that said Catacombs start to finish. That group filled up within 10-15 mins. I was still new and I asked the people in the group if anyone has done this before and if they wouldn't mind kind of leading the group to where to go. Somone spoke up and said they did and we followed him through the series of quests. And OMG no one left the group either we all stayed start to finish!

Seriously waiting an hour for a group? That's just sad.

Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

It captures PnP rules well? So you can pickpocket as a rogue? I can do Attack of Opporuntity? Can you play a Half-Orc? Can you play a chaotic evil player? Enemies lose their Dex 10 base when being flanked? Do Rangers gets pet at level 4? Before you start turn something pissing content make sure you able to back up your claim with authetic information. All these quest you can't answer without saying no. Simply put DDO lacks the DnD experience, you can only play the characters and even that is lacking because Turbine did poor job translating the game. You'll see what I mean when you play trial version for yourself. If you looking paper and pencil you use to play, you won't find it here because you don't have any RP element to execrise roleplaying. You'll do a lot of dungeon crawling and socializing, but you won't be doing any roleplaying before entering a dungeon.



I encourage to play the game and I'm not exaggarating any points to you. I'm telling everything in the game is not guaranteed.. Just don't expect an involving storyline and ability to make choices that affect your world or your alignment. Neither sevenwind nor merv, can guarantee you'll same experience as they did.

merv808

Originally posted by Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

It captures PnP rules well? So pickpocket as a rogue? I can do Attack of Opporuntity? Can you play a Half-Orc? Can you play a chaotic evil player? Do Rangers gets pet? Before you start turn something pissing content make sure you able to back up your claim with authetic information. All these quest you can't answer without saying no. Simply put DDO lacks the DnD experience, you can only play the characters and even that is lacking because Turbine did poor job translating the game. You'll see what I mean when you play trial version for yourself.



I encourage to play the game and I'm not exaggarating any points to you. I'm telling everything in the game is not guaranteed. Neither sevenwind nor merv, can guarantee you'll same experience as they did. Once again here you go spouting off.......



I never said that every D&D rule ever was incorporated into the game. I'm not even sure thats possible. Like you I could probably go around and nit-pick at what's not there, but I don't. While you do that I'm enjoying the game.



What I did say is that it captures the FEEL of a pnp campaign. (Which is what the OP was asking) While I agree that I can't guarantee the OP will feel the same way, I can only speak of my own experience.



We understand that you hate the game Cap, and thats fine. It's just weird that you still bother to post here everyday and in every DDO forum that someone starts....if you dislike the game, maybe you should spend time posting on a forum for a game that you actually like and play.



Just a thought.

Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

Originally posted by Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

It captures PnP rules well? So pickpocket as a rogue? I can do Attack of Opporuntity? Can you play a Half-Orc? Can you play a chaotic evil player? Do Rangers gets pet? Before you start turn something pissing content make sure you able to back up your claim with authetic information. All these quest you can't answer without saying no. Simply put DDO lacks the DnD experience, you can only play the characters and even that is lacking because Turbine did poor job translating the game. You'll see what I mean when you play trial version for yourself.



I encourage to play the game and I'm not exaggarating any points to you. I'm telling everything in the game is not guaranteed. Neither sevenwind nor merv, can guarantee you'll same experience as they did. Once again here you go spouting off.......



I never said that every D&D rule ever was incorporated into the game. I'm not even sure thats possible. Like you I could probably go around and nit-pick at what's not there, but I don't. While you do that I'm enjoying the game.



What I did say is that it captures the FEEL of a pnp campaign. (Which is what the OP was asking) While I agree that I can't guarantee the OP will feel the same way, I can only speak of my own experience.



We understand that you hate the game Cap, and thats fine. It's just weird that you still bother to post here everyday and in every DDO forum that someone starts....if you dislike the game, maybe you should spend time posting on a forum for a game that you actually like and play.



Just a thought.

The game would have a better PnP feel if you could choose your destiny, influence your surroundings and chanllenge alignment. If he's looking for that experienfe isn't going to find it here. He'll find the dungeon aspect, but not the RP aspect.



Cap? You have me confused, my friend. Me and CaptainRPG are two different people. He hates the game and I think the game has room for improvement. You just trolling these forums to show out whenever you can. And if you like the game so much, how come I see posting every hour of the day?

Sevenwind

I'll tell you this Cap/Las, it's called having a second computer or a email notifier that a new post has been made. I have a G15 and it comes up and says new post. So with the laptop to the side while playing DDO I can log in and check what dribble you posted again.

A second computer or laptop comes in very handy when looking info up on a quest in any game so you don't have to alt tab the game or play in a box to find info.

merv808

"I" troll these forums....thats a riot.

there are games that I don't care for....plenty of them. If I was a troll I'd be posting in those forums everyday and trying to turn new players away from the game.



I don't do that but it sounds a lot like.......(clears throat) you.

neuronomad

Originally posted by Lastera

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Cap? You have me confused, my friend. Me and CaptainRPG are two different people. He hates the game and I think the game has room for improvement. You just trolling these forums to show out whenever you can. And if you like the game so much, how come I see posting every hour of the day?

LOL.  You might as well give it up.  No one is fooled by your "oh Me and Cap" are two different people.   You weren't smart enough or didn't care enough to even try to make your dribble appear to be posted by a different person.  But anyway it is too funny.   I can't believe you (and your alter ego) actually continue to call legit posters here 'trolls" when your actions and postings show that you are in fact the biggest of all trolls at least in this forum.

neuronomad

Originally posted by merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

QFT



I would just like to agree with what SevenWnd and Merv808 have said for the OPs benefit.  Please ignore CapLast (we call him this because CaptainRPG and Lastera almost 100% have to be the same person).   He constantly trolls this forum in a lame attempt to scare people away from a game that he has very, very little knowledge of and certainly no current knowledge of.

Lastera

Originally posted by neuronomad

Originally posted by merv808

To the OP



Please disregard anything that the Capt/Lastera has to say about this game. He/She only played a trial account to level 4 months ago, and knows nothing about the state of the game. He/She (it) trolls these forums everyday and attempts to spread misinformation about the game.



Listen to people that actually play the game.



Anyway to address your post. I DDO actually captures the pnp rules pretty well and Turbine has done a great job of capturing the feel of a good campaign. Except for one thing-There is a severe lack of wide open spaces to roam. While they added a bit with the large free expansion (hehe dont hear that much do you?) there is still a ways to go.



But if you are looking for something to tide you over between gaming sessions with friends you will find it in DDO,



I hope that helps.

QFT



I would just like to agree with what SevenWnd and Merv808 have said for the OPs benefit.  Please ignore CapLast (we call him this because CaptainRPG and Lastera almost 100% have to be the same person).   He constantly trolls this forum in a lame attempt to scare people away from a game that he has very, very little knowledge of and certainly no current knowledge of.

Actually, you've been the one trolling the forums lying to people that this a great game. I at least told the guy to play the game. And no me and RPG two different people, you're only scapegoating because Mr. RPG doesn't come around here more. You're mad because I make you look like fool in topic.

Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

"I" troll these forums....thats a riot.

there are games that I don't care for....plenty of them. If I was a troll I'd be posting in those forums everyday and trying to turn new players away from the game.



I don't do that but it sounds a lot like.......(clears throat) you.

Did I not tell the guy to try the game out? You guys are so quick to troll and you never read post. Trolls don't discourage people, trolls are people who make indirect statements to piss people off or attack every post by calling someone a lying or trying to black sheep someone. Since Cap left, the boards were dead. You guys said little to nothing you were still ranting, raving and obsessing about the guy. I say a few things in his defense, I have mutual background and you guys have the nerve to make me be out to "Cap" himself. I mean is it safe to say that people who pass through here multiple account of you guys?



Last, but not least, you guys spend more time on these boards trolling than I do. I at least post outside of these forums, I haven't seen many of you on any other forum, sans Bes, whom I've seen in LotR promoting the same BS there too. I notice you patterns too, the moment I post, you guys post, but if I say nothing for a whole day, you won't response to a person about the quality of the game. If that isn't a troll I don't know what is.



Anyway, I told the man the truth, I didn't discourage him from playing nor did I guarantee him he'll have the same experience as me. Nor should be on these forums to guarantee that he will. Saying everything he's going to get is certain is BS. I'm hoping he listen to neither YOU or me, but takes both of information with a grain of salt. Because we both speak the truth and exaggarate to a certain extent.

Lastera

Originally posted by Sevenwind


I'll tell you this Cap/Las, it's called having a second computer or a email notifier that a new post has been made. I have a G15 and it comes up and says new post. So with the laptop to the side while playing DDO I can log in and check what dribble you posted again.
A second computer or laptop comes in very handy when looking info up on a quest in any game so you don't have to alt tab the game or play in a box to find info.

Well Seven/Mev, it's called obsession complusive disorder. If you have nothing better else to do, but to constantly correct things and bother people then you have obsessive tendencies. And if you stop playing DDO to focus on a response to my post, OBVIOUSLY the game isn't that game for you to post every second. It really doesn't have your attention since I see you on here a awful lot.



Hopefully, DDO isn't as bad as Cap made it out to be.

Sevenwind

Call it what you will CapLast, but just remember it applies to you as well. Your one person against what six paying subscribers that keep calling you out on the misinformation you post about this game. Your not even a subscriber but played a trial account to lvl 4 and you know more than us.

Actually keep posting cause now it's comical to see you post and then get called out on it by one of us paying subscribers that know how that game is and not from a lvl 4 trial account person.

I play the game just fine while replying to your dribble. But atleast I don't have to wait an hour for a group and I play a Bard on an "empty" server.

Post on!!!!

Lastera

Look Seven/Merv I didn't say anything indirectly to you nor did I discourage him from playing. Right now, I'm pretty sure he's already playing the game and has ignored the both of us. I'm not obsessing about these boards or the people who poster on here. You, in fact, are spending every moment here. I at least adventure to other boards.

Sevenwind

CapLast how do you know I dont go to other boards here? In fact I posted in VG forum not to long ago. Anything else?

neuronomad

Originally posted by kano71

Originally posted by Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

"I" troll these forums....thats a riot.

there are games that I don't care for....plenty of them. If I was a troll I'd be posting in those forums everyday and trying to turn new players away from the game.



I don't do that but it sounds a lot like.......(clears throat) you.

Did I not tell the guy to try the game out? You guys are so quick to troll and you never read post. Trolls don't discourage people, trolls are people who make indirect statements to piss people off or attack every post by calling someone a lying or trying to black sheep someone. Since Cap left, the boards were dead. You guys said little to nothing you were still ranting, raving and obsessing about the guy. I say a few things in his defense, I have mutual background and you guys have the nerve to make me be out to "Cap" himself. I mean is it safe to say that people who pass through here multiple account of you guys?



Last, but not least, you guys spend more time on these boards trolling than I do. I at least post outside of these forums, I haven't seen many of you on any other forum, sans Bes, whom I've seen in LotR promoting the same BS there too. I notice you patterns too, the moment I post, you guys post, but if I say nothing for a whole day, you won't response to a person about the quality of the game. If that isn't a troll I don't know what is.



Anyway, I told the man the truth, I didn't discourage him from playing nor did I guarantee him he'll have the same experience as me. Nor should be on these forums to guarantee that he will. Saying everything he's going to get is certain is BS. I'm hoping he listen to neither YOU or me, but takes both of information with a grain of salt. Because we both speak the truth and exaggarate to a certain extent. BIGTIME troller with no life

The biggest, for sure.  The funny part is that no one here takes him serious.   He and his alter-ego CaptainRPG before him only help to draw attention to the game because for every bit of false information he provides a half dozen of us end up debunking and proving him wrong.  

Lastera

Originally posted by neuronomad

Originally posted by kano71

Originally posted by Lastera

Originally posted by merv808

"I" troll these forums....thats a riot.

there are games that I don't care for....plenty of them. If I was a troll I'd be posting in those forums everyday and trying to turn new players away from the game.



I don't do that but it sounds a lot like.......(clears throat) you.

Did I not tell the guy to try the game out? You guys are so quick to troll and you never read post. Trolls don't discourage people, trolls are people who make indirect statements to piss people off or attack every post by calling someone a lying or trying to black sheep someone. Since Cap left, the boards were dead. You guys said little to nothing you were still ranting, raving and obsessing about the guy. I say a few things in his defense, I have mutual background and you guys have the nerve to make me be out to "Cap" himself. I mean is it safe to say that people who pass through here multiple account of you guys?



Last, but not least, you guys spend more time on these boards trolling than I do. I at least post outside of these forums, I haven't seen many of you on any other forum, sans Bes, whom I've seen in LotR promoting the same BS there too. I notice you patterns too, the moment I post, you guys post, but if I say nothing for a whole day, you won't response to a person about the quality of the game. If that isn't a troll I don't know what is.



Anyway, I told the man the truth, I didn't discourage him from playing nor did I guarantee him he'll have the same experience as me. Nor should be on these forums to guarantee that he will. Saying everything he's going to get is certain is BS. I'm hoping he listen to neither YOU or me, but takes both of information with a grain of salt. Because we both speak the truth and exaggarate to a certain extent. BIGTIME troller with no life

The biggest, for sure.  The funny part is that no one here takes him serious.   He and his alter-ego CaptainRPG before him only help to draw attention to the game because for every bit of false information he provides a half dozen of us end up debunking and proving him wrong.  



Uh no, you haven't responded to any post with any valid information other than your elitist argument. Hell I asked you and few other provide exampel of good build and you guys could do is cower.

Sevenwind

Originally posted by Lastera

I give up really, everyone seems to miss the point or they aren't listening to me. You've missed the whole point as to what I'm doing right. I'm not defending him, but trying to get your mind off of all this negativity. Even when RPG isn't, there are still trolls lurking and I can't deal with it anymore.



As for the answer to your first question, I think he's fan who was disappointed by the results. Your a fan of the game and I betting he is too. Anyway, I'm not coming back here anymore, I was just trying to get this board back on track, but nevermind.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/107318

Please please pratice what you preach.

neuronomad

Originally posted by Sevenwind


Originally posted by Lastera

I give up really, everyone seems to miss the point or they aren't listening to me. You've missed the whole point as to what I'm doing right. I'm not defending him, but trying to get your mind off of all this negativity. Even when RPG isn't, there are still trolls lurking and I can't deal with it anymore.



As for the answer to your first question, I think he's fan who was disappointed by the results. Your a fan of the game and I betting he is too. Anyway, I'm not coming back here anymore, I was just trying to get this board back on track, but nevermind.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/107318
Please please pratice what you preach.

Can I get a big AMEN?

 

AMEN brother!  



Too bad for us though that CapLast doesn't have a life other than to stick around here and constantly try to stir up trouble about a game that he doesn't play nor really hasn't even played to any real extent.

 

The comical thing is that he is the one saying that other people have mental health issues, when in reality it is clear that the one with the issues is himself.