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will there be a trial?

airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
Will there be a little 1-2 day trial with vanguard?



Some history: my rig is fair. I played Oblivion almost a year ago, high quality, and it looked/worked great. I even got thru Gothic-3 ok, although I might have burned up my hard drive... hehe



I played some eq2, and from the screenshots, I thought it was going to be great. But if I went above 'high performance', the fps drops down so much it's unplayable imo. I've got to have at least 15-20 fps or it's too distracting. So I could achieve all those nice screenshots, with tons of nice foilage and detailed shadows, if I was willing to live with 5 fps. not gonna do it.



SO... this Vanguard looks good, but so did eq2, and I never got to play eq2 at a setting that would make the experience anywhere close to oblivion. Is Bethesda the only company that can make a killer graphics engine in this industry? Anyway, I would like to see if the game will run before plopping down 50 bones.... will there be a trial where I can see the engine in action?

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  • b4t3m4nb4t3m4n Member Posts: 91
    This game has large textures which will run your harddrive a lot.  If you have 2 gig ram then its not a big issue.  Out questing, not a big issue.  In town with lots of people, performance is going to hurt some.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Well, I didn't really want to post my specs and ask "will it work on my machine given blah"... as there are lots of posts already asking such questions. (FYI: dual 64b intel at 3.0Ghz, 2G ram, nvidia 6800 GS)....



    It all ends up being just guess work... for example, this rig will run oblivion like a dream, but struggled with gothic-3 a little, (cause it tried to load up more in memory i think... a friend of mine had same machine 1G of ram, and it was unplayable). And I could never get eq2 to play well smoothly and look really good at the same time.



    Ultimately, it's just too hard to tell from the specs. Will they have a trial-of-the-isle kind of thing so I can see if it will run on my machine? IF they don't, then that is kinda suspect to me. If they do, I'm downloading it for sure, with fingers crossed, head-bowed in prayer, hoping that it could maybe be the MMO implementation of oblivion i've been dreaming of....
  • BakgrindBakgrind Member UncommonPosts: 423
    No official word on a trial offer has come forth that I know of. But I'm sure it will. On another note I too play Oblivion and it plays rock solid with 60 mods. VG on the other hand is a whole lot more demanding on your system and fps suffers due to that.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    ok... so no OFFICIAL word on the existence of a trial.  (there's also no official word on system specs either, but that's another discussion).



    Has there been anything unofficial? I mean, besides some user on a forum saying crap like "sigil rules... of course there will be a trial!".... Maybe something from an interview within the last 4 months with someone that works at Sigil... even someone in janetorial services overhearing a discussion in a bathroom even?  anything?
  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255
    Originally posted by airhead

    Well, I didn't really want to post my specs and ask "will it work on my machine given blah"... as there are lots of posts already asking such questions. (FYI: dual 64b intel at 3.0Ghz, 2G ram, nvidia 6800 GS)....



    It all ends up being just guess work... for example, this rig will run oblivion like a dream, but struggled with gothic-3 a little, (cause it tried to load up more in memory i think... a friend of mine had same machine 1G of ram, and it was unplayable). And I could never get eq2 to play well smoothly and look really good at the same time.



    Ultimately, it's just too hard to tell from the specs. Will they have a trial-of-the-isle kind of thing so I can see if it will run on my machine? IF they don't, then that is kinda suspect to me. If they do, I'm downloading it for sure, with fingers crossed, head-bowed in prayer, hoping that it could maybe be the MMO implementation of oblivion i've been dreaming of....
    I don't think you'd have any problem at all running with that rig.



    Edit: Forgot to say that there is no trial that I know of being released any time soon.
  • KombatJesusKombatJesus Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by airhead

    ok... so no OFFICIAL word on the existence of a trial.  (there's also no official word on system specs either, but that's another discussion).



    Has there been anything unofficial? I mean, besides some user on a forum saying crap like "sigil rules... of course there will be a trial!".... Maybe something from an interview within the last 4 months with someone that works at Sigil... even someone in janetorial services overhearing a discussion in a bathroom even?  anything?
    You had a chance for a trial in Beta 5, and for the next few days after the pre release on the 27th,if I am not mistaken and the time you would have until you needed to purchase an actual copy.  See if you can go and download from FP, see if you can get a beta key.

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  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by KombatJesus

    Originally posted by airhead

    ok... so no OFFICIAL word on the existence of a trial.  (there's also no official word on system specs either, but that's another discussion).



    Has there been anything unofficial? I mean, besides some user on a forum saying crap like "sigil rules... of course there will be a trial!".... Maybe something from an interview within the last 4 months with someone that works at Sigil... even someone in janetorial services overhearing a discussion in a bathroom even?  anything?
    You had a chance for a trial in Beta 5, and for the next few days after the pre release on the 27th,if I am not mistaken and the time you would have until you needed to purchase an actual copy.  See if you can go and download from FP, see if you can get a beta key. 1. I saw the FP download last week... I just never saw where you got a key. From the forum posts I read at vanguard, it required a pre-order, OR according to poster above in this thread it was by invitation only.



    2. http://www.vanguardsoh.com/    says that beta was closed yesterday in anticipation of release next week. FP still has the download link, so downloading now... but with next to zero confidence that it's worth doing. Will do it anyway....





    But again... not being a whiner or anything.... i WANT TO BUY IT. Hey Sigil, you got a nutty potential customer here... I see rats running around like a hurricane is coming. I see no official specs on your site. I see no trial. I see posts about bad performance. You want my money, it's your job to sell me. I've been running my own software business for 12 years now, and customer is king. I want to buy. I see red flags. Give me a trial and if it works, there's a 99% chance I'm in for 50+100sub = 150+ bones. But leave me to forage thru the forums reading crap about specs, with no trial for me to see if it will run, then I can't buy.... it's not that complicated really.



    So has there ever been a statement by anyone of significance that a trial run would exist for potential players? Even unofficial?
  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255
    Open beta runs until midnight PST tonight. If you get it patched up today and enter a key handed out at Fileplanet, you'll have a few hours to give it a go.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by PB&J

    Open beta runs until midnight PST tonight. If you get it patched up today and enter a key handed out at Fileplanet, you'll have a few hours to give it a go.
    oh man... my heart skipped a beat. downloading from FP now...



    however: http://www.vanguardsoh.com/betainfo.php



    says pre-order or FP-subscriber to get a key. I've got an FP account, but not the paying kind. I think "fp-subscriber" means paying 6/mo to FP correct? If not, I still can't find the link on FP for the key... still looking though
  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255
    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by PB&J

    Open beta runs until midnight PST tonight. If you get it patched up today and enter a key handed out at Fileplanet, you'll have a few hours to give it a go.
    oh man... my heart skipped a beat. downloading from FP now...



    however: http://www.vanguardsoh.com/betainfo.php



    says pre-order or FP-subscriber to get a key. I've got an FP account, but not the paying kind. I think "fp-subscriber" means paying 6/mo to FP correct? If not, I still can't find the link on FP for the key... still looking though

    Yes. Thats true. You'll have to pony up 5 bucks to try it. They have had this offer for at least 3 weeks so it was a good value. Right now, you'll be paying $5 to play for one day. However, if you keep your memebership at FP you won't have to pay for other games in the future as they have these kinds of offers all the time.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Well, 6 bucks for a one-day trial? Currently paying for multiple eq2 and wow accounts... and I got closed beta invites to other games in the near future.... Guess I will wait for some kind of engine download trial then.



    So my main question remains:



    Has there been any official statement about the existence of a trial to check out the engine?

    If not official, has there been any statement by a Sigil rep in an interview about the existence of a trial?
  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255
    If you can find someone that ordered the collectors edition, they get 10 buddy keys to hand out to other players to give it a try. Right now that is about the only way I know of to get a free trial.



    I'd give you a key but I'm not getting the collectors edition. Just the standard pre-order.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by PB&J

    If you can find someone that ordered the collectors edition, they get 10 buddy keys to hand out to other players to give it a try. Right now that is about the only way I know of to get a free trial.



    I'd give you a key but I'm not getting the collectors edition. Just the standard pre-order.
    Thanks for offer pb&j... keep up the good work.   But I think I'm out cause it's looking like the download is way too slow, and I heard the patching takes a long time... I wouldn't get it up by midnight anyway.  I read some post about it being a pre-order-beta-only kind of thing, and just didn't read up enough then to catch the FP-subscriber possibility. My loss. ]



    But maybe I'm not the only one in this boat either....  IF you don't have a real OPEN beta (like wow did) then I don't see how you can get away without having a trial (like eq2 did). Especially with all the "don't buy now because it runs like a dog" posts I'm seeing here (mmorpg.com, while maybe slanting a little towards the side of it better be good or we are gonna rip you a new one, is still filled with peeps who've gamed a lot and seem to have a good handle on the state of something generally)...
  • OskaOska Member UncommonPosts: 3

    airhead

    just PM'd you with a spare key.

    FP sent me two.

    Enjoy the last few hours of beta

     

  • PB&JPB&J Member Posts: 255
    It no longer runs like a dog. There are bugs but the performance and stability are far better now than just a week ago.



    It was more like a partially open beta than a totally free open beta. There are probably about 10k people spread across all the servers on a typical night in the open beta. A good population.



    Good luck to you.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Oska is da BOMB!  pb&j doing good pr.  I'm downloading/patching now; so I might be taken care of if it gets down in time.... so THANKS guys....



    But still have the original question: any official or unofficial statement about a trial? from an interview anyone remembers? I will keep rummaging around...
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