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what are the system requirements for this game?
airhead
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(NOTE: I would love to get into this game... this is not a hater bash. Give me an MMO that looks/plays like Oblivion, and I might have a hard time remembering to eat... hehe)
I'm seeing all these beta tester posts, people struggling to get a good look and good fps, posting their specs etc.
So I go to vanguard site and see this:
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/faq.php?eid=17&faqid=17&ptext=Technology/Min+Spec
and in the latest post they have made on the subject, they say something like this:
" It's too early to announce Vanguard's hardware, memory, or storage requirements, but our current guess at a 'min' spec is a machine with ...."
with a posting date of 11/06/2006
SO... let me make sure I got this straight....
1. two months ago it was too early for them to know what the specs for the game were going to be.
2. they had an open-beta, where only people who pre-ordered could play.
3. there are a lot of posts here with people struggling to get good/decent performance with 'average' rigs.
4. Sigil has closed the 'open-beta', and is going to release in a week.
5. Sigil still has not updated their website with a real statement of system requirements... (post still over 2 months old)
6. As far as I know, there is no 1-hour trial where I can see the engine in action, to see if it will work on my machine.
Isn't that like REALLY playing with fire? I mean, one of the biggest features of an MMO is it's growing and high population. IF you come out of the gate without a bang, aren't you running a risk of not getting good early momentum? And if you fail with that early momentum, then haven't you really wasted 3 years of work?
No definative specs on the official site, no downloadable trial to check it out, lots of posts here from people struggling with the performance = withhold-my-money-for-now and moan at the lost potential ?
I'm seeing all these beta tester posts, people struggling to get a good look and good fps, posting their specs etc.
So I go to vanguard site and see this:
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/faq.php?eid=17&faqid=17&ptext=Technology/Min+Spec
and in the latest post they have made on the subject, they say something like this:
" It's too early to announce Vanguard's hardware, memory, or storage requirements, but our current guess at a 'min' spec is a machine with ...."
with a posting date of 11/06/2006
SO... let me make sure I got this straight....
1. two months ago it was too early for them to know what the specs for the game were going to be.
2. they had an open-beta, where only people who pre-ordered could play.
3. there are a lot of posts here with people struggling to get good/decent performance with 'average' rigs.
4. Sigil has closed the 'open-beta', and is going to release in a week.
5. Sigil still has not updated their website with a real statement of system requirements... (post still over 2 months old)
6. As far as I know, there is no 1-hour trial where I can see the engine in action, to see if it will work on my machine.
Isn't that like REALLY playing with fire? I mean, one of the biggest features of an MMO is it's growing and high population. IF you come out of the gate without a bang, aren't you running a risk of not getting good early momentum? And if you fail with that early momentum, then haven't you really wasted 3 years of work?
No definative specs on the official site, no downloadable trial to check it out, lots of posts here from people struggling with the performance = withhold-my-money-for-now and moan at the lost potential ?
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2. Wrong, many people from the forums were invited to the beta
3. Its a matter of opinion, even with an average machine you can get great performance while out questing. In town around a lot of players is where it can dog because of lack of RAM. There is a lot of "hitching" (drive access, hd page file usage) in town and around certain buildings.
4. Game has been in production for 5 years, there comes a point where you have to release because things aren't free.
5. Not sure why you stated this again, refer to one.
6. Hardly any MMO's release a trial at the same time as release.
Are they playing with fire? yes and no, there are always going to be people that hate the game, and others that love the game. They have been brutally honest saying they are releasing because they are out of money and they wish they had a month or so more for polish. They release patches every day, and the game has improved dramatically just in the last few weeks. Got to have some faith sometimes.
2. I didn't know that. Why didn't I get an invitation? I played the wow open-beta for a week before it released, just click a link, download, play. (I hate wow now btw). I played eq2 trial-of-the-isle, just download and check it out, then bought it too. Are you saying Sigil's open-beta was the same kind of thing and I just missed it? crap?!! (or was it more of a limited non-open open-beta kind of thing?)
5. I stated it 'again' because they've had 2 months of open-beta testing, to use that feedback, and UPDATE their official statement of what the system requirements are going to be.... and they have STILL not done it, one week before launch? I mean, if you can't figure out what your system requirements are going to be after 2 months of open-beta, and you are going to release in a week.... i mean.... wtf? that just sounds crazy to me...
And again, I am NOT a VG hater... but someone who wants a good mmo to play... hoping it's VG....
THe last thing I saw on teh forums was this:
http://forums.vanguardsoh.com/showthread.php?t=104804&highlight=trial
which was a post made on 1/11/2007. So they changed that sometime between 1/11 and 1/22 such that it did NOT require a pre-order? Is that what you are saying? I'm bummed if I freakin missed it??!! crap. OR do you not know what you are talking about? got some evidence to show it did not require a pre-order?
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Also, a quick search for the system req's in google will give you multiple links.
2. You may be right about trial-of-the-isle. I played wow first, then got into eq2 about 5 months after its release.
3. Sure I can search google for links to forum posts made by players who post their specs, their fps, and their subjective opinion about how good it looks. I can also go down to a local church and have a preacher tell me I'm ugly and headed for hell, but can change that with hefty donation. It's all a crock and doesn't mean a thing.
Anything less than an OFFICIAL statement by the company selling the product is MEANINGLESS. I suppose I will just wait and read it off the box when I see it at the store.... since it's becoming apparent that there is no official statement from the company (I'm still searching btw).
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/status.php
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS • Windows® 2000/XP/Vista
• 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible computer
• 100% DirectX compatible keyboard or input device
• Processor 2.4 GHz Intel processor or 2400+ or higher model AMD processor
• 512 MB RAM
• Vertex and Pixel shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 128MB of texture memory
• 100%DirectX compatible sound card
• 56K + Internet Connection
• 16X Speed DVD-ROM
• 20 Gigabytes Hard Drive Space
RECOMMENDED SPECS
• Windows® 2000/XP/Vista
• 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible computer
• 100% DirectX compatible keyboard or input device
• Processor 3.0 GHz Intel or 3500+ AMD processor
• 2 GB RAM
• Vertex and Pixel shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 256MB of texture memory
• DirectSound compatible audio hardware
• Broadband Internet Connection
• 16X Speed DVD-ROM
• 20 Gigabytes Hard Drive Space
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Given that, I'm seeing people here make posts where they have rigs better than the recommended, yet have to turn the quality way down in order to keep a decent fps. For me myself, I got a dual 64b intel at 3.0Ghz, 2G ram, and a pixel-shader-3 card with 512M (nvidia 6800 gs). SO i'm pretty hopeful and pumped about the game again.... just need to see it in action before purchase i guess...
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=1
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http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=1
Keep in mind that video ram on video card is not the end all like system ram. Video ram is used to store and process textures and such so yeah the more you have the better it could be. the reason I say could be is if you have 512 megs video ram that is slow compaired to 265 megs of GDDR3 ram on the newer cards for example the difference is vast. When a video card processes something it shoots it out the door so to speak and onto your monitor so ram for storage is not usually what it's for.
The 6000 series cards are one generation lower than the 7000 and even now the 8000 series are out. Your current system will work rather well, but the other poster is right with a 7900 card you will be able to use max settings - its what I'm running with PC specs close to what you have.
Phynn since you say you are no computer guru I'd say without a single bit of doubt that no you should not try to overclock anything!
That being said I'm sure you can find some info on the web to help you if you do overclock. Just remember before you start this or listen to anyone else that might say it's easy... If you go into this knowing that you stand the risk of burning up your chip and are ok with it then it might be something to try.
I've been working with and building computers (yeah I know everyone else has too hehe) for over 15 years and I don't even overclock because to me the risk is not worth the reward.
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=1
airhead you video card is just fine. Its the game not your pc or graphic card. Just wait for few months i am sure they will fix the graphic issues.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=1
Hmm.. regarding nvidia I was referring to what I have seen many times on the beta forums. But I don't know so much about nvidia, I'm on an ati x1900xt, and this definitely works wonders at max settings and 16x anisotropic filtering.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
I don't know, you are probably right. I am running it on a dual core, so I can't say.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
The game is making full use of my 2 cores (on my Pentium D 805 as well as on my Core2Duo E6400).
And regarding some more information, the devs already have a working 64bit version in house. It still needs some work; they will release it post launch, after the still missing content and the remaining issues are fixed.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
See you don't have a clue as to what your talking about and you prove yourself with your comments. If it were the game then EVERYONE would be having the problems. As it is it's only certain portion of those playing. If you must post trash at least give everyone a little warning before you do so we can ignore what you say.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
See you don't have a clue as to what your talking about and you prove yourself with your comments. If it were the game then EVERYONE would be having the problems. As it is it's only certain portion of those playing. If you must post trash at least give everyone a little warning before you do so we can ignore what you say.
Sorry man. People performance is spotty and no single setup had been labeled as "Bad". Its the games client engine, it just doesn’t run consistently on the same machines. And yes, it currently does use dual core, while maybe not written for it, some PC's depending on the maker, and drivers are indeed using both cores.
The single core remark was my own findings, as I see more posts about people having issues with single cores that duo.
BTW Suck my nuts.
Thanks
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
See you don't have a clue as to what your talking about and you prove yourself with your comments. If it were the game then EVERYONE would be having the problems. As it is it's only certain portion of those playing. If you must post trash at least give everyone a little warning before you do so we can ignore what you say. another rabid fan ready to bite? where you wanna bite me...my butt? here bite it.
people who run dual cores are running games at max settings? how many people actually have dual cores? majority of gamers are still using single cores for gamings and dont expect everyone to upgrade there pc's for just one bloody game. I am sorry if you can't even read properly because what i am trying to say is that game should be optimised for mid range pc's too because everyone is not running beast machines. And yes its true many games are still not making optimal use of dual cores. VANGUARD WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR DUAL CORES. Problem is that, the general attitude on this board is so fucked up its so hard to say one line without some rabid vanboi like you not talking trash or abuses. I can see what a wonderful community this game has.
Thanks for making my decision even easier for not playing this game. This is the worst community ever.
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
See you don't have a clue as to what your talking about and you prove yourself with your comments. If it were the game then EVERYONE would be having the problems. As it is it's only certain portion of those playing. If you must post trash at least give everyone a little warning before you do so we can ignore what you say.
Sorry man. People performance is spotty and no single setup had been labeled as "Bad". Its the games client engine, it just doesn’t run consistently on the same machines. And yes, it currently does use dual core, while maybe not written for it, some PC's depending on the maker, and drivers are indeed using both cores.
Wow only because i said you are wrong and i dont agree with you..you are asking me to suck your nut? damn i love this vanguard community.The single core remark was my own findings, as I see more posts about people having issues with single cores that duo.
BTW Suck my nuts.
Thanks
That’s a lie, or an unknowing statement. A single core 3.0 will not get him to max settings. Dual core is preferred, seriously.
Most people having issues are single core users.
The optimization has gotten better. however.
Its still somewhat hit an miss with different hardware, only way to truly know is to try.
you are wrong.. a single amd 64 3500+ is also good because the current games doesnt make use of dual cores.. and Vanguard certainly not making use of new dual cores. I hope people realise its the bloody game not people's pc.
See you don't have a clue as to what your talking about and you prove yourself with your comments. If it were the game then EVERYONE would be having the problems. As it is it's only certain portion of those playing. If you must post trash at least give everyone a little warning before you do so we can ignore what you say.
Sorry man. People performance is spotty and no single setup had been labeled as "Bad". Its the games client engine, it just doesn’t run consistently on the same machines. And yes, it currently does use dual core, while maybe not written for it, some PC's depending on the maker, and drivers are indeed using both cores.
Wow only because i said you are wrong and i dont agree with you..you are asking me to suck your nut? damn i love this vanguard community.The single core remark was my own findings, as I see more posts about people having issues with single cores that duo.
BTW Suck my nuts.
Thanks
Not at all, disagree all you like. I was responding to that little gem in red with the nut suckage.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
*shake hands*