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You can only be the "good" races?
Lithdov
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And there are only four of those to actually play as (human, dwarf, hobbit, elf)? Weak.
I'm honestly not trolling (I doubt that will stem the flood of "stfu n00b!1!!" responses), but what does this game have to appeal to anyone who's not a Tolkien fan? The graphics look like DaoC at launch, the races/classes are extremely limited, and the PvP and PvE don't do anything that hasn't been done before. Is there any reason to be excited about this?
Oh, and the $200 life-time subscription plan just screams "We're going to take your money and ditch this thing."
I'm honestly not trolling (I doubt that will stem the flood of "stfu n00b!1!!" responses), but what does this game have to appeal to anyone who's not a Tolkien fan? The graphics look like DaoC at launch, the races/classes are extremely limited, and the PvP and PvE don't do anything that hasn't been done before. Is there any reason to be excited about this?
Oh, and the $200 life-time subscription plan just screams "We're going to take your money and ditch this thing."
If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet. - Hamzal
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"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
I love flamers who know nothing...
I Mean honestly Monster Play has never been done before.....the limited lifetime pricing from a secure company thats been around for years if someone wants to have a lifetime account let them, they still offer a more than fair montly price. Graphics comparable to DaoC LOL! ... your so loaded of crap 
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
The "Monster Play" does sound pretty interesting, especially after reading a little about what that PvMP zone will be like, and how players will be upgrading thier monster characters. Not quite the same as playing an evil race as a real character, but I bet if it goes over well, they'll expand on it. Sounds like its got lots of potential, at least.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
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Again, what does this game offer that excites anyone? The "monster play" doesn't sound like anything other than BGs in any other MMO. And yes, I stand by the opinion that the graphics are very, very primitive looking. Flat textures, sloppy animations, and clunky character models do not make my heart go aflutter. Tell me these are impressive visuals:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=16544&type=wmv
especially in comparison to games like Age of Conan and WAR coming out, or even in comparison to what's already available, such as Guild Wars.
If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet. - Hamzal
However with that being said, if you are indeed serious may I suggest you search the posts here (LoTR) to find the answers to your questions. Because they have already been asked.
I wish people would just take the time to do some leg work for themselves before starting a new thread with the same old rehashed lingo.
I just watched Two Towers again.......
I will play this game based solely on he fact that it is LOTR. If watching the movies that barely hold a candle to the books inspires me to want to fight the battle of helms deep or defend gondor against the Orc hordes imagine how a game That is based on the novels themselves wil immerse me in an alternate reality that I will not even have the desire to escape from regardless of its soul sucking drain on my so called "real life" obligations.
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However with that being said, if you are indeed serious may I suggest you search the posts here (LoTR) to find the answers to your questions. Because they have already been asked.
I wish people would just take the time to do some leg work for themselves before starting a new thread with the same old rehashed lingo. I rest my case, you guys really need to learn some people skills. If person ask a stupid question or say something untrue doesn't give you the right to act rude to that person. And acting in such ways will only encourage of more that behavior.
However with that being said, if you are indeed serious may I suggest you search the posts here (LoTR) to find the answers to your questions. Because they have already been asked.
I wish people would just take the time to do some leg work for themselves before starting a new thread with the same old rehashed lingo. I rest my case, you guys really need to learn some people skills. If person ask a stupid question or say something untrue doesn't give you the right to act rude to that person. And acting in such ways will only encourage of more that behavior.
Forgive my ignorance, but how the heck was I rude to this guy?
The inability to play orcs is just retarded. I guess no one will get variety with this game.
As for the graphics, I thought they looked pretty good, actually. Not top of the line, but not horrible either.
As for the subscription plan - yeah. Id be VERY careful about that. I think these guys know that a few hardcore Tolkien-ites will play this game, and it'll crash after ~6 months. Want to make a better game? Include Olog-hai.
The inability to play orcs is just retarded. I guess no one will get variety with this game.
As for the graphics, I thought they looked pretty good, actually. Not top of the line, but not horrible either.
As for the subscription plan - yeah. Id be VERY careful about that. I think these guys know that a few hardcore Tolkien-ites will play this game, and it'll crash after ~6 months. Want to make a better game? Include Olog-hai.
You CAN play orcs through Monster Play.
I'm not sure, beezee. Your post didn't seem hostile to me. It was rather up front in telling the poster to actually read the forums and he'd find what he was looking for. Keeping in mind the OP's negative perspective of the game and the manner in which they address the game, it's seem to me that would be the best course and they (OP) have proven they can't ask an objective question without sliding in little "veiled" jabs, which aren't so veiled and only cause people to not want to help you.
Now, if the OP had said, " Hey guys, what do you find most interesting about LOTRO and that makes you want to play?", I think they'd find many more folks willing to answer. Social skills and all, blah blah.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/112753
-which points to this interview about LOTRO's MP/PvP.
To further sum up, for those of you who won't even read it, but probably won't even read any more than the first sentence of the first post, before trolling, either..
Yes, you can play an Orc. Or a spider, warg, or Uruk-hai.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
First, they are working on a HD version of the graphics. These are not available to beta testers yet. Second, Monster Play may not excite you personally, but that does not mean you can dismiss it as a feature. Everyone that I know that has played it, loved it.
Turbine decided to work on a managable feature set and polish it. How many underwhelming MMOs have had exhaustive feature sets simply to fill up the box cover and failed to deliver? Many. As many have said here, the game is highly polished now. Because of this, the devs at Turbine get to start working on the 'wish' list of extra features in preparation for launch.
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I bet they already have the high-definition textures done, for the most part. It's a lot easier to make a high-res texture, and then reduce it, than the other way around. Probably, they just don't want people downloading them, yet, to keep the beta as portable as possible. Same reason betas don't usually have cinamatics included.
Most hardcore PvPer's that i know and have played several MMO's with over the years hate to lvl. They powerlvl thru the PvE content as fast as they can in order to be able to PvP all of the time. With monster play in this game you get just that. At lvl 10 you can start to play as a monster, that you name. A monster that will be sitting there waiting for you anytime you want to play it. A monster that you get to upgrade and do quests for. The only thing that monster doesn't get to do is run around willy nilly and attack anyone it wants too in a FFA setting.
Eventually they will increase the lvl cap in the game. I predict that when they do that they will either give those who play as monsters the ability to lvl up or will increase there lvls to the cap. So what if Monster play is restricted to a special area of the map. I am sure when they add more areas to the map they will also add more monster play areas. Heck mordor would be the ultimate monster play area. Isengard would also be a good place along with a monster play version of moria, I say it that way cause with instancing they could have two versions of moria one PvE only and one PvMP.
Of course, because they're PvPrs. We'll have to see if PvMP is even enough of a game in itself to attract hardcore PvPrs at all. I mean, if it's too simple, they'd be better off playing a more PvP focused game.
OTOH, I've seen lots of hardcore PvE players say things like, the longer it takes to level, the better. They know that the achievement feels more meaningful, the longer it takes, and that there's not really any hero's carrot waiting for them at the level cap. Rushing to the end just means game over. Seems obvious to me that LOTRO is more aimed at PvE players than PvP, or maybe a 80/20 mix, you could say, so I'm wondering about the levelling speed.
My point was that those who crave pvp and nothing else and hate the lvling grind that goes with it in the traditional pvp centric game. Don't have to go thru the lvl grind in this game, unless they have to play as the goodside in pvmp. My view of PvMP is it offers the hardcore pvper quick access to the lvl cap for pvping on the monster side without the boring lvl grind they hate. From my understanding there are keeps they can fight for, quests they can do over and over to upgrade the monster they play. The monster is persistent, not in the playable race form but it is there for them to play anytime they want.
Also from what i have heard about MP from those i know who have played it they love it. It of course is not for everyone as there is no PvE or PvP system that is for everyone. I will wait and form my decision of what i think of this system.
That site you used for the video doesn't come close to doing justice to actual game play looks.
There are real rewards for exploring
A good crafting system.a bit like SWG pre cu,nge(sp)
When the say "instanced" it's not like EQ2 you don't "zone" into cities and such.Some quests are "instanced" so you don't have camp bosses
Monster play..heheh..you can name them and keep them. points you make with them can be used by the "monster" or your regular char.
If you get defeted in an instance,you can use a scurry pool to get placed back with your group
You can interact with some of the char's from the books. Some will actually fight with you
As for what's new completely new and never been done,tried,or thought of...probably nothing..no one else has either,that i've seen.BUT
Untill there are some MAJOR break throughs,as in VR or some such,Your probably not going to see anything that can be defined as totaly new for a good long while.
how companys use the tech available is what is going to make a game good or also ran.I think turbine has a good game in Lotro.
With a live crew to add to content ,as in AC,Hey.it worked and was nice.
A real good feature...you don't need a $3,000 machine to play at good settings,you don't have to tweek any game files,as in the other new game that just came out.
Best thing you can possibly do...play the beta and judge for your self..that's the only way to make an opinion that's real or fair
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/112753
-which points to this interview about LOTRO's MP/PvP.
To further sum up, for those of you who won't even read it, but probably won't even read any more than the first sentence of the first post, before trolling, either..
Yes, you can play an Orc. Or a spider, warg, or Uruk-hai.
Right. Some kind of feature ripped straight from Everquest Test Server, where I can jump into the body of a Giant Rat in the newbie zone, waiting patiently to get killed by some player looking to up his experience bar.
You get a level 50 or so monster to play with. Literally "play with". Like a kid with a slinky. Its not serious, its not a buildable character, its a fucking deathmatch avatar. Lame.
Now if they will go through all of the trouble to implement "monster play", then they can implement "Level 1 Uruk Play". Meaning I make a new character - an Uruk, and can play him as a "normal" character, with the exception that any other players I find get to feed my belly with meats.
A few quests, leveling opportunities, and equipment vendors, and you have the basis for a fun side of the game.
I miss DAoC
Two huge problems with doing it that way - first, and probably foremost, it'd then be a hardcore PvP game, which isn't what Turbine seems to be going for at all.
Secondly, there is actually some advantage to doing it thier way - if I understand what they're saying correctly, they don't want playing an orc to be just like playing another character - they want it to feel like playing a monster. Not a character, and all the paperdoll management that comes with it, with vendors and quest givers, and all that, but something much less civilized. Something more raw, that's just about going out and doing some damage.
However, they do seem to understand that if it's not "buildable," that'll put people off - what's the point, then? So, it is buildable. Again, if I understand that interview correctly, you pick from different variables, which become unlocked as you progress, etc. Not as complex as character development, but not just a slinky to play around with, either.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/112753
-which points to this interview about LOTRO's MP/PvP.
To further sum up, for those of you who won't even read it, but probably won't even read any more than the first sentence of the first post, before trolling, either..
Yes, you can play an Orc. Or a spider, warg, or Uruk-hai.
Right. Some kind of feature ripped straight from Everquest Test Server, where I can jump into the body of a Giant Rat in the newbie zone, waiting patiently to get killed by some player looking to up his experience bar.
You get a level 50 or so monster to play with. Literally "play with". Like a kid with a slinky. Its not serious, its not a buildable character, its a fucking deathmatch avatar. Lame.
Now if they will go through all of the trouble to implement "monster play", then they can implement "Level 1 Uruk Play". Meaning I make a new character - an Uruk, and can play him as a "normal" character, with the exception that any other players I find get to feed my belly with meats.
A few quests, leveling opportunities, and equipment vendors, and you have the basis for a fun side of the game.
Like my two previous colleagues have expressed, maybe you want to wait and actually get a taste of it first. From your post I can tell you haven't already. If you still don't like it then, hey, it's your right, but at least then you will have all the actual facts for a coherent rant."Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez