I managed to get into Vanguard this evening as part of a blunder where certain CB accounts can play into pre-retail game time. I was expecting a boost in FPS and perhaps the opportunity to enjoy this game. I think VG has a lot of potential and could go far, but this game has only become WORSE performance wise.
I made a new character, Goblin, and started in Martok on a low pop EU server. In OB/CB I could stand on the starting boat without moving and get a satisfying 30fps, now (with the same settings) I witness 15fps which drops to 10fps when moving. So im thinking, WTF? Maybe the settings got reset. I decide to drop all my game settings to minimum (they were all pretty low anyway) and do a /flush.
IT GETS WORSE.
All of a sudden my game drops from 10fps to 5fps. I realise that editing the settings has wiped my .ini tweaks that enabled a respectable FPS. I alt tab, close any programs, increase VG's priority rating on task manager then I go back in. Again no change.
By this point im thinking "somethings seriously wrong here". Moving to the laggiest place in the immediate area (5fps stationary), I alt tab and open task manager to assess my resources, CPU at 50%, memory has 360k (out of 1gig) to spare. Back in Beta my memory was bordering 60k to spare so I assumed this was the source of my problems.
As a last resort, I decide to turn the sound off. As a result my FPS boosts by 20! Im not using a sound card, nor does my motherboard have onboard sound. Turning off sound in the past had revealed as much as 10fps but never 20! I then made a Thestrian Human and a High elf to test their starting areas, both have the same effect.
My System Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 2400+ (2.0GHZ)
1g PC3200
200gig HDD (standard)
7800 GTX Nvidia
I cant quite understand the cuase of the performance loss. If its not memory, its not CPU then the only alternatives are Harddrive and Graphics card. Granted if I add a sound card to my system it will increase my FPS. But only to 30. Does this mean that in order to play VG at a satisfying level you need a SATA HDD?
Im at a loss..
looks like you better put another hamster on the wheel lol
While in game you can use the /flush command to wipe old data. this will free up your system. I run the game just fine with a nvidia 6600, a AMD 64 3000 , 2 gb dual channel and a SATA hard drive. I turn off sound so I can chat with guild party members.
I've always been suspicious of those performance improvement claims at release you cant turn around major performance problems like that in one week.
Dont want to start a flame war but technically Turbine did a great job with LOTR the graphics look astounding and it runs great on geforce 6800/1gig/2.8ghz
Anyway, I needed the vgclient.ini tweaks to get a respectable 20+fps outside towns. In a town however it dropped to about 5fps! But then I read about testing with the sound off. Turning the sound off gave me 15fps!! in towns. So without sound I have 15-20fps in town and 25+fps outside town.
Its playable now and Ive ordered a new soundcard (updating drivers didnt change anything) and another 1Gb of ram. But what I really dont like about Vanguard is that .ini file tweaking is giving me the performance I want. Why cant I do the same with ingame settings?
So to the OP. Check the settings and vgclient.ini and see how much difference low quality or no sound makes in performance. And about giving high priority to the vgclient process. That makes barely a difference in any game. Maybe when someone doesnt turn other in the background running software (virusscanner, printer/scanner software) etc off.
I had a lot of problems during beta, problems so bad i was quite convinced this game would tank on launch.
But after reading some reactions i couldnt resist to buy an account at sony and play the finished game, and my performance has improved incredibly.
I can now put the game on my widescreen high native resolution (couldnt in beta, didnt work for some way).
I dont get the loading between areas anymore, none at all. During beta every time i ran into sort of a new area there would be loading of character data and my game would stand still. This ruined the idea that you where in one huge world. That problem has now completely dissapeared.
There are still bugs but many of the serious gamebreaking bugs have been removed, and the game is good enough to run on my system smoothly now. I have a minimum amount of lag and im playing on an american server.
Looking at your system spec you should do fine, though to decrease lag and improve performance i would advise adding 1 gig of ram to your system. If you still have problems then, i would think it has something to do with your windows or PC not working properly.
Anyways, i was a huge hater of this game, but now that the major gamebreaking issues have been solved i can look beyond the major problems and see a jewel of a game here. For me personally, the vanguard performance improvement is a definate TRUE.
Frames have improved dramatically. The problem is with your PC.
amd 64 3.5+
2gb ddr 400 ram
7800gtx
and performance sux on my pc...!!11
All I can tell you is that when open beta began I was getting about 15 FPS at best. I have not changed my hardware and run over 50 FPS since late beta/release.
The performance of the game has dramatically improved. To say otherwise is a flat out lie.
Originally posted by godpuppet Originally posted by KnivesOnly The game sues over 1gb ram to run :P You need 2gb ram.
I think it's abit odd because the game doesn't look all that good tbh and specially on low - balance settings.
In Beta yes, now? No. I had everything maxed with sound off (15fps). Checked Task manager and I had 350k memory to spare. Memory is no longer an issue for Vanguard.
You're wrong unfortunately. 350k to spare doesn't mean vanguard is using all it can. With 2g of ram on balanced mine will use up to 1.3-1.4g. Sorry kiddo, ram is still your main limiting factor... although I don't know why you'd complain about that, ram is probably the cheapest component to upgrade that CAN increase performance.
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Dont want to start a flame war but technically Turbine did a great job with LOTR the graphics look astounding and it runs great on geforce 6800/1gig/2.8ghz
A64 3000+
1Gb memory
nvidia 6800GT 128mb
onboard sound
200Gb harddisk
Anyway, I needed the vgclient.ini tweaks to get a respectable 20+fps outside towns. In a town however it dropped to about 5fps! But then I read about testing with the sound off. Turning the sound off gave me 15fps!! in towns. So without sound I have 15-20fps in town and 25+fps outside town.
Its playable now and Ive ordered a new soundcard (updating drivers didnt change anything) and another 1Gb of ram. But what I really dont like about Vanguard is that .ini file tweaking is giving me the performance I want. Why cant I do the same with ingame settings?
So to the OP. Check the settings and vgclient.ini and see how much difference low quality or no sound makes in performance. And about giving high priority to the vgclient process. That makes barely a difference in any game. Maybe when someone doesnt turn other in the background running software (virusscanner, printer/scanner software) etc off.
Knowledge is Power!
amd 64 3.5+
2gb ddr 400 ram
7800gtx
and performance sux on my pc...!!11
I had a lot of problems during beta, problems so bad i was quite convinced this game would tank on launch.
But after reading some reactions i couldnt resist to buy an account at sony and play the finished game, and my performance has improved incredibly.
I can now put the game on my widescreen high native resolution (couldnt in beta, didnt work for some way).
I dont get the loading between areas anymore, none at all. During beta every time i ran into sort of a new area there would be loading of character data and my game would stand still. This ruined the idea that you where in one huge world. That problem has now completely dissapeared.
There are still bugs but many of the serious gamebreaking bugs have been removed, and the game is good enough to run on my system smoothly now. I have a minimum amount of lag and im playing on an american server.
Looking at your system spec you should do fine, though to decrease lag and improve performance i would advise adding 1 gig of ram to your system. If you still have problems then, i would think it has something to do with your windows or PC not working properly.
Anyways, i was a huge hater of this game, but now that the major gamebreaking issues have been solved i can look beyond the major problems and see a jewel of a game here. For me personally, the vanguard performance improvement is a definate TRUE.
amd 64 3.5+
2gb ddr 400 ram
7800gtx
and performance sux on my pc...!!11
All I can tell you is that when open beta began I was getting about 15 FPS at best. I have not changed my hardware and run over 50 FPS since late beta/release.
The performance of the game has dramatically improved. To say otherwise is a flat out lie.
You're wrong unfortunately. 350k to spare doesn't mean vanguard is using all it can. With 2g of ram on balanced mine will use up to 1.3-1.4g. Sorry kiddo, ram is still your main limiting factor... although I don't know why you'd complain about that, ram is probably the cheapest component to upgrade that CAN increase performance.
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