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Well if you remember i started a "my first day in hell ... er Warcraft" about 2 weeks ago or so. And yesterday i got word that my buddy wanted his account back hehe.
overall what i have learned is this ... to the point I was at (mid 20s) you shouldn't even call WoW an MMO. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game except from seeing people in the auction house and running past them on the way to complete the quest you are on. If you want to call this a multiplayer game then you should call Solitare a multiplayer card game ... if you have 4 people playing solitare at the same table. Heck get one long ass table and maybe you can consider Solitare a Massive Multiplayer game.
the games graphics weren't that bad, I still shook my head at the "harvest golems" and when some mobs "skipped" toward me when i attacked. But i must say the armor is pretty well done that i was impressed as well with the Major Cities.
The game is great for newbies I will give you that, those that have never played a MMO should definately start with WoW. In fact if my gf ever decides to try a MMO i will definately buy it for her to try out. thats probably the best thing about it ... the simplicity.
but as an experienced MMOer the simplicity of it can get dull.
I guess the only thing i would actually change about the game are two things i brought up ... More interesting, unique classes as well as more group oriented content, either do something like EQ2 with heroics being for groups or just give a bonus to groups who attack higher level mobs.
I will admit i had my ups and downs in the game, sometimes i had a blast where all i could think about was logging in. Other times i dreaded logging in .. but i guess you can say that for any MMO.
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The game starts (started expac hah) at 60 mate.
Though, I too have quit...
It is a perfectly legitimate observation, there is little to no multiplayer interaction prior to the max levels. With a few rare exceptions, its solo all the way to the top.
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Its funny but I dont see why you need to get 60 or 70 levels to understand the game isnt that good and just a simplistic version dealing with mmo's on the lowest common denominator. WoW has its good points but I see where the poster has a point.
It is a perfectly legitimate observation, there is little to no multiplayer interaction prior to the max levels. With a few rare exceptions, its solo all the way to the top. At level 20, If you like, you can level to 60 solely by doing 5 man instances. I don't like to grind so I mostly do instances, and I don't care that it takes longer to reach 60, I'lll get better gear anyways. If you chose to solo, don't bitch about it, noone forced you to.
Edit: By the way, I am going to buy TBC after having had a long break from WoW because despite hanging at this site and looking for another mmo, playing a few betas and some trials, WoW beats them all hands down.
Call me 'softcore' or 'noob' or whatever I don't care.
WoW was my least favorite MMO I've ever played. It was a very simple, no challenge game and I had 2 level 60s. My first a Warrior, took me 18 days played to max also maxing my blacksmithing (armor smith) my second a rogue took me 13 days played with also maxing my Engineering(I was a gnome so it maxed at 315 skill) Only did instances to do all the quest for that Instance as I found them boring and it made me feel like I was playing a single player game that had multiplayer options. This was just my experiance and is just my opinion. There is no right or wrong here.
Whether someone likes a game is a matter of personal taste. The Op stated his opinion of WoW and it is a valid point.
But a game has to hook you from the start, ive read too many times that VG get good at lvl 15, EvE is better when u get into a corp etc.
But theres no need to rubish a game if youve only played for 20 lvls and talk about aspects of the game you have not seen or cant see because of your lvl.
And as with all MMO get into a guild or whatever ASAP, else you'll miss alot of the action.
This is where you come off sounding like an overzealous fanboy. Also, the part where I call out and point out how myopic your post is.
i play mmos for fun, i dont expect to have to slog to "earn" the fun part.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
funny, if your girlfriend needs one, then go buy one, amazingly, almost every store still carries it :P
Retired from WoW
Rebellion - 60 Warlock || Kalaa - 60 Warrior
Littlerebel - 60 Hunter || Albie - 60 Shaman
Played: Erm, a lot more.
buy her one? man you gotta be really rich, or really really ugly
i'm joking btw, worry not
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG
I don't know from the people that i have talked to (the buddy who gave me the account and other buddies who play it) Solo will always get you more xp, grouping is only needed 60+ raiding.
and mind you my buddy has nearly every class to 60 except paladins and warrior.
So i don't know what to think.
Last time I kinda ripped you up a bit about your critique, but this one reads as fair and at least you gave the game a chance and evaluated it on its own merits rather than your preconceived notions, even if some of them panned out as true. Good show and fair review from my experience.
I don't think anyone is really developing mmo's for veterans anymore... wow just made to big a splash... depth confuses newbies... and everyone wants success at the wow level.
Shadus
WoW will always be the Wal-mart of the game world: Cheap and satisfying, but still leaving a huge amount to be desired. Mass consumption. It may be your cup of tea, but it's not mine.
I've played a quite a few mmo's, and it's the community that will make a or break a game. WoW's community broke it for me. The sad thing is that quite a few peopel will never realize just how bad WoW's community is because it's the majority's first mmo.
Yeah, I'm just another veteran whining because I no longer have anything worth playing =/ L2 was the closest I played to a winner in years, and it still left some stuff to be desired. Maybe I'll try it again...
-=Magicite=-
I don't know from the people that i have talked to (the buddy who gave me the account and other buddies who play it) Solo will always get you more xp, grouping is only needed 60+ raiding.
and mind you my buddy has nearly every class to 60 except paladins and warrior.
So i don't know what to think.
I think you're right :Pyou can solo 1-60 easily, I did it with 4 characters.
I had fun while I played, and quit when I stopped having fun, I guess that's what matters.
Why do I mainly solo in an mmo? well... I've tried many many single player games, and I have yet to find one that offers half the gameplay experience that an mmo does just in terms of exploration, mobs, and number of quests... bought Oblivion and after a few hours thought "this place is HUGE... and empty..."
well, we're all waiting for something fun, yet a bit more complicated to come around
Cheers,
Retired from WoW
Rebellion - 60 Warlock || Kalaa - 60 Warrior
Littlerebel - 60 Hunter || Albie - 60 Shaman
Played: Erm, a lot more.
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MMOs Retired From: Earth and Beyond, Project Entropia, There, A Tale in the Desert, Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Eve Online, City of Heroes/Villains.
MMOs Currently (worth) Playing: None.
MMO hopefuls: Age of Conan.
I too quit WoW when it stopped being fun to play. Took 2 60's and NUMEROUS alts (up to level 40+) to do that, but it happened. The game becomes a 2nd job. I'm not even going to, in my opinion, 'waste' the money on BC at this point, when it can be used for something much more interesting. I'm still awaiting a good, deep but still playable, MMO to catch my attention.
I enjoyed the leveling in WoW but once I got to 60 it was like... Sit for hours doing nothing in raids? Stand in battlegrounds, pressing jump every few minutes so you dont go AFK, and wait for faction points? I admit that some level 60s go and gank low levels while they are questing, but besides that I think the game is all in the fun lower level quests.
I did hear that the expansion added fun arenas though, and that could be neat, although the combat in WoW isnt really the greatest anyways, so as far as arenas go I dont have much reason to leave Guild Wars...
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When I was a noob with WoW I made a warrior and invested my skills in the protection tree right off the bat. That means I had to group with people ALL the way to lvl 60. I had fun, made friends, got ub3r armor, got into a guild....ect. I bet you did none of that and that is why you didn't give the game enough of a chance. Did you even go into an instance?
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It is a perfectly legitimate observation, there is little to no multiplayer interaction prior to the max levels. With a few rare exceptions, its solo all the way to the top. Its solo ONLY if you so desire. It can be just as much group to the 60s. Not many people group becuase its easy to solo (you dont have to wait for a group). But you CAN group, most people dont.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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It is a perfectly legitimate observation, there is little to no multiplayer interaction prior to the max levels. With a few rare exceptions, its solo all the way to the top.Its solo ONLY if you so desire. It can be just as much group to the 60s. Not many people group becuase its easy to solo (you dont have to wait for a group). But you CAN group, most people dont.
Exactly my point, if you don't have a group set up already (IE. your freinds/guildmates), it is effectively impossible to find one if you are so inclined.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can group all of the time if you can't find anyone to group with.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway