Is there truly freedom

Gallaid

i have been reading things that there is true freedom in this game. so i ask is there??

stylee99

Originally posted by Gallaid

i have been reading things that there is true freedom in this game. so i ask is there??

I would say so, yeah. There's no zones alla EQ2, or impassable mountains around entire areas alla WoW blocking you in. Eventually you'll run into higher level areas, but other than that, go anywhere you want. Not sure if that's an answer to what you were asking, but environmentally and geographically, yeah.

Mr.Man_7

Originally posted by Gallaid

i have been reading things that there is true freedom in this game. so i ask is there??

Congratulations on your 100th post! Great Jobing creating a pointless thread!  Cheers!

mx500torid

Nope not true freedom you have to pay to play.

godpuppet

If you mean freedom in the extent, you can face a direction and run in it for hours, sure. Unfortunately, during those hours you will find few and far between areas of interest and eventually you will get aggro and die.



Of course, this depends on what continent your on. I played mostly on that T continent (I forget the name now).

Fariic

Originally posted by Mr.Man_7

Originally posted by Gallaid

i have been reading things that there is true freedom in this game. so i ask is there??

Congratulations on your 100th post! Great Jobing creating a pointless thread!  Cheers!

Sounds like envy to me.  Make a few more of your own pointless threads and you'll be at 100 as well.

 

As far as being able to go where you like, build a house, a boat and advance in 3 dif spheres of play, it's about as free as it can get without being UO.

Edit:  Ah, you're an Eve player.  I think it gives you the same amount of freedom you get in Eve.  The PvP isn't quite the same as you cant really demand money from someone to let them live, well maybe at higher lvls if they have a lot on them.  If you're looking for a fantasy game that is equivalent to Eve then I think this is as close as it gets.  To soon to tell yet, but Eve may have more depth in the community as the players really are the game there.

Ethanael

Originally posted by Gallaid

i have been reading things that there is true freedom in this game. so i ask is there??

Yes, you have an incredible amount of freedom within Vanguard to do what you really want to do. Do you want to just create ships/houses and provide armor and weapons to the population? Be a Crafter. Do you want to learn about the world around you, your race, other issues that revolve around the world? Be a Diplomat! Do you want to brawl down with the best of them, destroying everything in your way while hoping that one day you wear the armor that other people in the world awe over and question where you've been? Be an Adventurer.



Explore a very vast world that is fill with dungeons, caves, tombs, crazy creatures and what seems like an endless amount of other content. It will take you literally more than a year to explore every single nook and cranny of this game. Just when you think you may have seen it all, you're surprised with someone that found a new place to group up to go to. I've played the game for 5 months, spending all of my time on just Qalia and I've only adventured through 20% of what is there, if that.



Do you want to ride a Camel? How about a Griffon? Or how about a Steed that is decked out with some really fancy armor? What about a little boat so you can travel the coast or a huge sea bearing ship to adventure around the world with your guild/friends on? These things do not come easy, but with patience and friendships, they're there.



This is a small part of giving you the freedom that you want to do in a Massively Multiplayer Game. The realisim and immersion are there. The game will only get better with time and to be part of this now is a must. I regretted that I played EverQuest half a year after its release and not when it first came out. Bugs don't bother me and it's being part of living up to a kick ass vision is what is cool to me.



Fanboi, hell yes. I can see this game easily becoming something even more with each level I raise.



Regards,

Anofalye

In order to advance, you MUST do some precise actions, such as acquire item X in groups, item Y in tradeskills, item Z in diplomacy, Item E in raids.

 

So there is no real freedom, you must do precise actions, in 1 type of gameplay, regardless of if you like this gameplay or not, to advance in EVERY gameplay.

 

Thereby, everything is enforced, nothing is really an option.  You are presented a serie of obligations, you are free to do them in the order you want...or to stop before completing your progression...so no real freedom, you HAVE to do everything.  Old gen.

rounner

Originally posted by Anofalye


In order to advance, you MUST do some precise actions, such as acquire item X in groups, item Y in tradeskills, item Z in diplomacy, Item E in raids.
 
So there is no real freedom, you must do precise actions, in 1 type of gameplay, regardless of if you like this gameplay or not, to advance in EVERY gameplay.
 
Thereby, everything is enforced, nothing is really an option.  You are presented a serie of obligations, you are free to do them in the order you want...or to stop before completing your progression...so no real freedom, you HAVE to do everything.  Old gen.

 

If you run around in circles with a tin pan on your head banging it with a spoon you will not level up, so no there is no freedom.

bigbard

Originally posted by Anofalye


In order to advance, you MUST do some precise actions, such as acquire item X in groups, item Y in tradeskills, item Z in diplomacy, Item E in raids.
 
So there is no real freedom, you must do precise actions, in 1 type of gameplay, regardless of if you like this gameplay or not, to advance in EVERY gameplay.
 
Thereby, everything is enforced, nothing is really an option.  You are presented a serie of obligations, you are free to do them in the order you want...or to stop before completing your progression...so no real freedom, you HAVE to do everything.  Old gen.

this guy doesnt have the foggiest clue about Vanguard, you should hide under a rock until you get a clue. since your a HATER tell me what game is actually good?

roadwarriors

If by freedom you mean anal penetration, then no, there is no freedom.

But if by freedom you mean the ability to level up endlessly and grind for days on in, then yes, there is quite a bit of freedom.

Unfortunately I prefer the former to the later.

To each his own.

TATA.

Kyleran

Originally posted by Anofalye


In order to advance, you MUST do some precise actions, such as acquire item X in groups, item Y in tradeskills, item Z in diplomacy, Item E in raids.
 
So there is no real freedom, you must do precise actions, in 1 type of gameplay, regardless of if you like this gameplay or not, to advance in EVERY gameplay.
 
Thereby, everything is enforced, nothing is really an option.  You are presented a serie of obligations, you are free to do them in the order you want...or to stop before completing your progression...so no real freedom, you HAVE to do everything.  Old gen.

I can't even imagine what sort of game play you are looking for.



What do you expect.... that if you craft by slamming random ingredients together... you'll get a sword one time, a house the next, and  a ham sandwich the third time?  Of course any action in a game requires you to meet the pre-requsites.... their called goals, and people play these games to achieve goals...

BigMango

Originally posted by rounner

Originally posted by Anofalye


In order to advance, you MUST do some precise actions, such as acquire item X in groups, item Y in tradeskills, item Z in diplomacy, Item E in raids.
 
So there is no real freedom, you must do precise actions, in 1 type of gameplay, regardless of if you like this gameplay or not, to advance in EVERY gameplay.
 
Thereby, everything is enforced, nothing is really an option.  You are presented a serie of obligations, you are free to do them in the order you want...or to stop before completing your progression...so no real freedom, you HAVE to do everything.  Old gen.

 

If you run around in circles with a tin pan on your head banging it with a spoon you will not level up, so no there is no freedom.

Hahaha, LOL. Nice reply

Anofalye

The funiest thing is...

 

I am more achieving then any of these cry babies.  It is ironic, that someone wanting unlimited levels, is been teased that way.  Guys, you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.  And most importantly, to which type of person you are talking?  You realize I maxed my AAs before anyone in FoH/LoS/AL?

 

Best soloers should be soloers.  Best groupers have to be groupers.  Then we have freedom.  What you are saying is the cheap argument about having it easy...while in fact, I "achieve" a lot more than any of you, or anyone from FoH...you guys are funny...asking a plumber to complete a medecine doctorat, or a doctor to complete an administration doctorate...these make no sense at all.  Just like what vanguard is asking from it players...enforcing every gameplays on every player.  Nonsense.

Nevarion

Say, isn't VG class based? So you play a cleric archetype based toon you won't be able to get say fighter archetype based skills?

If so, that is no sandbox or true freedom. Try Ryzom or Eve if you're looking for that.

Fariic

Originally posted by Anofalye


The funiest thing is...
 
I am more achieving then any of these cry babies.  It is ironic, that someone wanting unlimited levels, is been teased that way.  Guys, you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.  And most importantly, to which type of person you are talking?  You realize I maxed my AAs before anyone in FoH/LoS/AL?
 
Best soloers should be soloers.  Best groupers have to be groupers.  Then we have freedom.  What you are saying is the cheap argument about having it easy...while in fact, I "achieve" a lot more than any of you, or anyone from FoH...you guys are funny...asking a plumber to complete a medecine doctorat, or a doctor to complete an administration doctorate...these make no sense at all.  Just like what vanguard is asking from it players...enforcing every gameplays on every player.  Nonsense.

Huh?

You lost me after, The funiest thing is...

I think it's some sort of rants about doctors and plummers and which degree would be better for the two. 

mas5949

It seems to me that there is a little too much freedom. I mean it plops you down and doesn't really give you any direction. They do have the class quests that lead you through your class development, but nothing to really connect you to the world. I am level 6 in adventuring and have yet to see anything about crafting and diplomacy.

GodOGames

Originally posted by Anofalye


The funiest thing is...
 
I am more achieving then any of these cry babies.  It is ironic, that someone wanting unlimited levels, is been teased that way.  Guys, you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.  And most importantly, to which type of person you are talking?  You realize I maxed my AAs before anyone in FoH/LoS/AL?
 
Best soloers should be soloers.  Best groupers have to be groupers.  Then we have freedom.  What you are saying is the cheap argument about having it easy...while in fact, I "achieve" a lot more than any of you, or anyone from FoH...you guys are funny...asking a plumber to complete a medecine doctorat, or a doctor to complete an administration doctorate...these make no sense at all.  Just like what vanguard is asking from it players...enforcing every gameplays on every player.  Nonsense.

I get it. No, seriously I do.

that you in fact have no idea what you are saying.

Vanguard doesn't "force" anyone to do any of the spheres. You can do what you want. Whether adventure, crafting, diplo, or if you just want to explore and not fight a single creature you can do it.

And No way did you max your AA's first in FoH/LoS/AL cause I was the one who maxed my AA's first.

GodOGames

Originally posted by mas5949


It seems to me that there is a little too much freedom. I mean it plops you down and doesn't really give you any direction. They do have the class quests that lead you through your class development, but nothing to really connect you to the world. I am level 6 in adventuring and have yet to see anything about crafting and diplomacy.

Game doesn't hold your hand you gotta go find some stuff on your own.

mas5949

Yeah I understand that, but this game doesn't give you any direction at all. I am not asking it to hold my hand or show me everthing. I just some backstory or something.

GodOGames

Originally posted by mas5949

Yeah I understand that, but this game doesn't give you any direction at all. I am not asking it to hold my hand or show me everthing. I just some backstory or something.

The story? Diplomacy is full of story. gives you Info on your race and what not but what i think your missing is the game is what YOU make of it. The players are the story. At least this is my experiance and view of the design