First of all, I'm not angry or anything of the sort. Most of the readers (and as such the posters) seem to think I'm some kid miffed about getting kicked out of the precious LOTRO beta. This is not the case.
I was actually rather ashamed to find out I had broken the rules. It was never my intention to break any rules and I clearly deserved getting removed from the beta (and from these forums in fact).
What my post was all about was the fact that I didn't know I had broken any rules until MMORPG.com pointed it out. And how I think that came about. Yes, I can read (and understand) the rules. No, it's not so bad that reading the rules takes 5 minutes. That's not what my post was about either. I was merely commenting on the fact that EULA's have grown so common and prevalent that hardly anyone is reading them nowadays. And, as a result, if a EULA (or any other agreement that requires acceptance at install) contains anything beyond the usual, it will probably not get noticed. Even by players who -want- to notice these things, but don't want to spend a fruitless 5 minutes trying to find them in 9 out 10 games that just have the standard rules.
That's why I argued for a standardized EULA, for use across the gaming industry. You can just bypass the standard game EULA, possibly a standard MMO EULA and go straight to the "where this game is different" part of the EULA. That way, I can familiarize myself thoroughly with the standard EULA -once- and accept it every time after that, since I know it's all the same anyway. Also, that allows me to rest assured there's no nasty legal tricks hidden out of sight, in subtle wording or other legalese. And finally, I can spend all of those 5 minutes for every game, reading what's relevant to that game, instead of having to fish bits and pieces out of the legalese swamp every single time I setup a game.
Greetings,
Grismar.
PS: I would prefer less hate and a more constructive attitude in response to my post. I you disagree with me, I'd love to hear about it, but just spewing filth and making far reaching assumptions about my personality won't do a lot of good.
Just take your lumps like everyone else and move on. Too many people make excuses when they screw up. Just own up to it and move on. You should have known....simple.
PS: I would prefer less hate and a more constructive attitude in response to my post. I you disagree with me, I'd love to hear about it, but just spewing filth and making far reaching assumptions about my personality won't do a lot of good.
There's plenty of hate on these boards but very little in this thread--you're mistaking (albeit once progressively harsh, you caught me on a grumpy day) criticism for hate because you're largely on the receiving end of it ( ' : If the rules are spelled out for you but you chose not to read them because you made an assumption of what they would say, then that's your fault (which you clearly accept, we know.) Asking for a Cliffs Notes version of a document that can be read between 5 and 15 minutes (especially when it's largely common sense information) just seems plain lazy to me (and to some others apparently) and further engenders skipping such documentation (which is not we want people to do.)
I know, I know, it seems like so much to ask for before playing a game but life is about sacrifice. <-- sarcasm, not hate ( ' :
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There's plenty of hate on these boards but very little in this thread--you're mistaking (albeit once progressively harsh, you caught me on a grumpy day) criticism for hate because you're largely on the receiving end of it ( ' : If the rules are spelled out for you but you chose not to read them because you made an assumption of what they would say, then that's your fault (which you clearly accept, we know.) Asking for a Cliffs Notes version of a document that can be read between 5 and 15 minutes (especially when it's largely common sense information) just seems plain lazy to me (and to some others apparently) and further engenders skipping such documentation (which is not we want people to do.)
I know, I know, it seems like so much to ask for before playing a game but life is about sacrifice. <-- sarcasm, not hate ( ' :