Great screenies. Got me thinking about LOTRO now. From the info posted here (thnx guys) I got a feling LOTRO is WoW 2.0 Am I correct or wrong? Could anyone highlight major similarities/differences between those 2 games please?
Thanks
PS: oh, and PLEASE no flamewars. I want to know if LOTRO is anything like WoW, i dont want to know your opinion how badly WoW sux.
Standard MMO layout, Standard gameplay. Good PVE, very soloable, Horrible PVP.
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I'll say first off that I am not a Lord of the Rings fan...
Normally, I wouldn't do this, but...you pretty much said everything I would have about the game, after a weekend playing it. I didn't expect to like the game as much as I do. If it's not a "third gen" MMORPG, whatever that's going to be, combat and questing, in particular, have got WoW beat eight ways to Sunday.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen.
Well this is a surprise today, very interesting. Lifting the NDA so soon. Good for them, at least they have some confidence in the game.
I was in the unique situation starting last Aug to be lucky enough to get into not only LotRs beta but Vanguard at the same time. It was very interesting and entertaining to experience the development of both games simulatiously. Of the in production quality, LotRs definately wins out. The last 2 months ov Vanguards beta was a cram of patches that no way could have been tested. I was very disappointing but then so predictable for an SOE influenced game. In the end VG ends up bug infested and runs like sh*t on anything but the most top end PC's. I guess if you want to spend a bunch of money on new hardware to play a so-so fantasy grinder thats on roughly the same level as L2, VG is your game. I'm afraid of a similar fate for Gods and Heroes.
Its my opinion (and only my opinion) that LotRs is a top notch game. (finally, Turbine didn't f**k one up, I guess eventually statisical odds do work out lol) And it has a solid future ahead of it. It still has a few things I don't care for, still to many "kill task" for my taste but overall, very nicely done. A step in the right direction. Better then a walking backwards like MMO have been going the past 2 years, even if its just a small step.
I'll say first off that I am not a Lord of the Rings fan...
Normally, I wouldn't do this, but...you pretty much said everything I would have about the game, after a weekend playing it. I didn't expect to like the game as much as I do. If it's not a "third gen" MMORPG, whatever that's going to be, combat and questing, in particular, have got WoW beat eight ways to Sunday.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold.
I'll say first off that I am not a Lord of the Rings fan...
Normally, I wouldn't do this, but...you pretty much said everything I would have about the game, after a weekend playing it. I didn't expect to like the game as much as I do. If it's not a "third gen" MMORPG, whatever that's going to be, combat and questing, in particular, have got WoW beat eight ways to Sunday.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you.
Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold.
Combat's less automated--clicking on your opponent doesn't turn you to face them, for one thing. You have to actually do that yourself, and you have to use the keyboard, because LotRO also didn't incorporate mouse-click movement, as I mentioned. The combat AI on enemy NPCs seeems to take advantage of this, as well--they run around a *lot* more when you're fighting them.
The quest system is slightly more complex than WoW's, and involves lots and lots of chained quests and even interlocking chains. Evasion has been worked into FedEx quests, for instance--ordinarily friendly NPCs become people can thwart you. They're still FedEx quests, but they're a little more fun than just plain running X from Y to Z. More than that, I can't tell you, as I haven't played that much.
(BTW, is it actually possible to *die* in this game? I spent a lot of time this weekend leaping from impossible heights, with the only effect being a short limp while I was "injured.")
Combat's less automated--clicking on your opponent doesn't turn you to face them, for one thing. You have to actually do that yourself, and you have to use the keyboard, because LotRO also didn't incorporate mouse-click movement, as I mentioned. .
You can use mouselook to turn around with too.
The quest system is slightly more complex than WoW's, and involves lots and lots of chained quests and even interlocking chains. Evasion has been worked into FedEx quests, for instance--ordinarily friendly NPCs become people can thwart you. They're still FedEx quests, but they're a little more fun than just plain running X from Y to Z. More than that, I can't tell you, as I haven't played that much.
(BTW, is it actually possible to *die* in this game? I spent a lot of time this weekend leaping from impossible heights, with the only effect being a short limp while I was "injured.")
I'll say first off that I am not a Lord of the Rings fan...
Normally, I wouldn't do this, but...you pretty much said everything I would have about the game, after a weekend playing it. I didn't expect to like the game as much as I do. If it's not a "third gen" MMORPG, whatever that's going to be, combat and questing, in particular, have got WoW beat eight ways to Sunday.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you. Hmm... that describes WoW style of questing and combat too. I was hoping to see how in your opinion LOTRO beats WoW's questing style . It seems to be the same, unless im missing something
I'll say first off that I am not a Lord of the Rings fan...
Normally, I wouldn't do this, but...you pretty much said everything I would have about the game, after a weekend playing it. I didn't expect to like the game as much as I do. If it's not a "third gen" MMORPG, whatever that's going to be, combat and questing, in particular, have got WoW beat eight ways to Sunday.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you. Hmm... that describes WoW style of questing and combat too. I was hoping to see how in your opinion LOTRO beats WoW's questing style . It seems to be the same, unless im missing something The quests in LoTRO are not all that different from any other rpg. There are the fed ex quests, the go kill x quests and bring back y etc etc etc. However, the devs at turbine seem to have made every effort in making every quest an entertaining story. One of the best quest lines I had done was shortly after you leave the tutorials etc. There is a widower hobbit and another hobbit down the road who has a thing for her. You spend the next hour or so doing stuff for both of them trying to convince her that he is worthy. I wont go into any more detail than that but that sort of flair to the quests is in just about every single quest line I have done. Unlike wow and other games you do not feel like you lost a couple IQ points for reading the quests in LoTRO.
Then of course there are the main story line quests, most of which are carried out in instances that are handled superbly well. I do not want to give any info away about these to spoil the surprises here but from the very start of the game there are opportunities to advance the storyline and have an impact on the gameworld (not unlike Guild Wars in that respect). Of course none of the impact is world changing or anything, its not like you can take boromir aside and "say Look I know you want the Ring but seriously... orcs are gonna kick your ass when you catch Frodo out in the woods alone for a minute. It will be better for you the fellowship and Faramir just to stay close to Aragorn and if you are worried about someone send Legolas or Gimli to go watch over em." But, it does work insofar as it pulls you into the gameworld and though you arent going to be the one to eventually face down Sauron or Saruman, you do have a role to play in the story.
For the unlucky people that did not have a chance to play in the beta.
Race Selection
Selecting your Race. Dwarves do not have male or female. Dwarf women according to the book have beard and i have never met any female characters that would like to look like ZZ top members. But life is so strange sometimes...
Class and Origin
The game allows you to select the origin of your Character which allows you access to different customization parameters. For Example a human from Gondor should not look the same with a human of Rohan. Also Selecting your origin sometimes starts your character in a different area of the game.
Interface Customization
Pressing ctrl+backslash ( key) allows you to reposition toolbars and every form of the game.
And now time for the "Juice" of the game.
Attributes
Lotro does not have Health as hit points but morale. Morale is like hit points but it's major difference it is that it is altered by the mood and the encounters that you will face. For example when you fight a skeleton and you get scared (the Fear resistance counts that) then your morale goes lower until you kill, run away or get defeated by the monster. You don't die in Lotro, intead of that you can be defeated. All these factors have different results according how often you lead your avatar to success or not. Power is like action points which can also be altered with skills potions and the mood and morale of your character. there are many attributes like will, fate which may seem complicated at start but none of them is.
Skills
Skills are separated in 3 major categories Active, Passive and Fellowship skills. Here you can see some of the skills of a level 16 Guardian.
Traits
traits are another way of customizing your Character. You can earn them from quests of any kind. From Lore quests or normal quests. Lore quests will be explained later. Traits can be managed (added or removed) from any bard of any city like Bree.
Titles
Titles can be of any kind as you can see i am a pie eating champion. (Its a quest in Bree Fields) Most of these titles can be earned through Quests, Lore achievements or from Actions that have positive or negative effect in the evolution of your character. For example if you don't get killed until level 5 you can get the title of <Name> The Wary.
Socials
The social panel is common to all online games. Fellowing is the Group Tab and Kinship is the Guild Tab. Kinships in lotro may be race restricted, for example you can create a kinship that has Elves only.
The Lore Book
The LORE Book. This book has 11 tabs. the first 9 are for every region that you will visit the other 2 are for the class and the "race and Social" . Each page has achievements that you don't know about until you do certain actions in the land you are in. When an achievement is added in the Lore book you see an icon at the boot right of your screen unless you have customized the interface in a different manner. For example if you kill a neekerbreeker in Bree then you get the shield of the achievement. If it is gray it is unfinished when it gets red it is done. Completing achievements grants you titles and traits. As you can see "we have work to do".
The class Lore tab has achievements that so far can be earned through skills if you complete any of them you get a new trait.
Well here the game it self does not tell much about them. Well how to talk with riddles? To be or not to be? Well i don't know!
Quests
Quests? Oh my God! If you like Quests then you can finish them all in 200 years maybe more. There are are all kinds of quests like:
Escort, Delivery, Craft, Defend ,Grind , Destroy and of course Quests in which you can't fight because you carry heavy things.
Inventory
Inventory is separated into 5 bags. All of them pop up when you press the "i" key or individually by pressing ctl+F1-F5. The lock icons on some items mean that i don't want to accidentally sell them.
The World
This is the Middle Earth Map. I am located at Eriador let's Zoom in a bit more.
BreeLand is where i started playing but let's Zoom a bit further.
Well If you start as a human of Bree you will be lucky since the game after the second tutorial (Yes there are 2) you start at archet again. If you are an explorer nature you know that even the smallest area can be hudge. If you are not and follow just the main quest path then everything seems so small. But hopefully even the smallest area of the game needs about 20 or more minutes to be fully explored so don't worry about the size of the game.
The Chat System is mostly common. A feature i liked was the Instant Message Sessions. There you can easily manage all tells even if your friends in the game want to break your nerves all together. You just click on the corresponding player icon and you respond accordingly. But who needs that? You can use your Microphone. No typing no death.
Mood-Dread-Hope
Pointing your mouse at the strange circle in the mini map allows you to see how you really feel. The better you feel the better you fight. But what will happen if you get defeated? let's see.
When you get defeated you get dread points. Things do not look so good as they were. Actually ther will not be a day that you will feel fine unless you reach certain levels. Every time you lose the dread factor substratcs morale from you so you get defeated a little more easily.
Well That's just a small introduction to LOTRO for the people that did not had the chance to play it. Screenshots were taken from my PC without altering the grafix options just to get a good shot. My PC is old with an nvidia FX 5950. However these professionals proved once more that our old babies can do fine without Quad Cpus and Nvidia Sli systems.
I have many questions myself about certain functionalities of the game but i am not the type to start browsing internet sites for walkthroughs and hints. If you have more accurate information about how the game is then you can freely get screens and info from here and perhaps when the game is fully released we can have an accurate and valid manual.
As for crafting I am sorry but it is not my style. I tried it just a little to find out that it has many nice things and professions but i am not the crafter type. It would be much better for a crafter expert to post some accurate info than just someone who tried crafting to just see how it is.
Im getting excited about LOTRO I signed up for beta but I doubt i will get in. Wish I could experience LOTRO first hand... oh well, ill have to wait for release.
Guess Ill have to go hang around in another unreleased forum now...
*takes the banstick and leaves*
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Im getting excited about LOTRO I signed up for beta but I doubt i will get in. Wish I could experience LOTRO first hand... oh well, ill have to wait for release.
Quests everywhere. Monster play. Lotr feel. Some great classes. Music. Raiding. Plenty of Solo Content but you can't go through the main quest( In the beginning you are pretty reliant on it for XP) without a bit of grouping.
I haven't ever experienced Level 15 - 30 so I don't know how good that part of the game is.
There are animals that don't aggro that move around. You can kill them but it isn't very nice .
The crafting system is nice. You get your name on the things you craft.
Different races have a different Epic quest . So supposably the game has good replayability.
Start of as an Elf Loremaster with the historian profession. Re-roll as a dwarf champion with the explorer profession... very different experience.
So I was at Bag End and I saw two chairs overlooking a small cliff and I was thinking to myself, why choose here as a place to sit and relax
Sooo I went to the edge, and it all made sense
Yes if you get your imgination going and listen to the LotR music for the shire in your head while looking at that view. You can see that FINALLY Turbine have got something right. They have nailed the feel of the world pretty much completely and thats a good start.
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I'm a big fan of LotRO, been in the beta for a long time. Great story elements and the environments are wonderful (This coming from a guy that played it on a 6600GT). My only gripes witht he game are that the Armor looks odd in certain instances and that the world is a little small for my taste. However, the world is jam packed with content and is practically bug free.
People in the beta will recognize the last pic of the Shire under attack. Good time.
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That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen.
Well this is a surprise today, very interesting. Lifting the NDA so soon. Good for them, at least they have some confidence in the game.
I was in the unique situation starting last Aug to be lucky enough to get into not only LotRs beta but Vanguard at the same time. It was very interesting and entertaining to experience the development of both games simulatiously. Of the in production quality, LotRs definately wins out. The last 2 months ov Vanguards beta was a cram of patches that no way could have been tested. I was very disappointing but then so predictable for an SOE influenced game. In the end VG ends up bug infested and runs like sh*t on anything but the most top end PC's. I guess if you want to spend a bunch of money on new hardware to play a so-so fantasy grinder thats on roughly the same level as L2, VG is your game. I'm afraid of a similar fate for Gods and Heroes.
Its my opinion (and only my opinion) that LotRs is a top notch game. (finally, Turbine didn't f**k one up, I guess eventually statisical odds do work out lol) And it has a solid future ahead of it. It still has a few things I don't care for, still to many "kill task" for my taste but overall, very nicely done. A step in the right direction. Better then a walking backwards like MMO have been going the past 2 years, even if its just a small step.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Here a few of my screens from the last beta client.
Yes, in moster play you CAN eat Hobbits!!!!
This one is kind of dark but I like the colors
A sunset in the the Shire
Me Dwarf
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you.
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The quest system is slightly more complex than WoW's, and involves lots and lots of chained quests and even interlocking chains. Evasion has been worked into FedEx quests, for instance--ordinarily friendly NPCs become people can thwart you. They're still FedEx quests, but they're a little more fun than just plain running X from Y to Z. More than that, I can't tell you, as I haven't played that much.
(BTW, is it actually possible to *die* in this game? I spent a lot of time this weekend leaping from impossible heights, with the only effect being a short limp while I was "injured.")
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That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you. Hmm... that describes WoW style of questing and combat too. I was hoping to see how in your opinion LOTRO beats WoW's questing style . It seems to be the same, unless im missing something
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
That being said, I think the smallness of the world and the disconnect with the movies are going to hurt LotRO in the marketplace--it's certainly not going to be any kind of "WoW beater," IMO. My girlfriend's not anything like the "hardcore player" I am, I just got her to play WoW after trying forever, and she likes it, but she tried out the LotRO beta this weekend and gave up after fifteen minutes or so in frustration because the combat system is less automated and she can't mouse click on the ground to move.
It's a good game, though, and just the IP should give it some legs. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and I may actually buy the game, which I didn't expect to happen. Could you explain in more detail why, please? I realy like WoW combat and questing, so if LOTRO beats that by even a small margin, im almost sold. Hmm i can try to give it a go.
Without questing you go nowhere in LOTRO because that is the way you level.
You could go out hunting mobs but that would be extremely slow compared to doing quests.
Quests are generally like they are in all other mmorpgs.
Talk to A and find B,
Kill a certain number of beasts,
Collect materials from beast,
Delivery quests,
Protection quests where you have follow the NPC and protect him from harm,
Collect berries,honey,flowers etc,
Get certain materials from playercrafters and give to NPCs,
Kill named or unnamed NPCs,
Search areas for certain chests,
Find a bucket of water in a forest and carry it back to questgiver,
Find items within a timeperiod or you fail,
You get the point
That's the normal quests in the open world.
Then there is the quests that takes place in closed instanced dungeons that only you or your group can enter.
The combat is pretty simple but it works without problems.
You use the skills you get when you level up and there tier 1-2-3 attacks so that you have to finish a tier 1 attack before you can move on to tier 2 to get to tier 3.
Some skills/songs require a tier 3 attack to be completed first.
Some classes have some sort of "rage" so they can use certain attacks when they have enough rage.
Last patch they added a "forward target system" just like there is in EQ II.
It works like a dream for healing classes because then you don't have to change targets constantly.
So if you target you maintank to heal him, you can cast a damage spell after that and then that damage will be aimed towards the target he is attacking.
Works the other way around too so if you are attacking a single wolf with your friend and your friend is going down in health because he has the aggro, then you just cast a heal while wolf is targeted and then the heal will go to the player the wolf currently is attacking.
There also is a groupsystem called conjunctions where you get special groupattacks just like you do in everquest II.
This game reminds a lot more of EQ II that WoWI when it comes to graphics,combat,questing and the conjunctionsystem.
As i said before in this post.
If you're a hardcore wow raider and lives for raids and ûberloot then seek elsewhere.
If you like some more casual playstyle and loves questing this game might be for you. Hmm... that describes WoW style of questing and combat too. I was hoping to see how in your opinion LOTRO beats WoW's questing style . It seems to be the same, unless im missing something The quests in LoTRO are not all that different from any other rpg. There are the fed ex quests, the go kill x quests and bring back y etc etc etc. However, the devs at turbine seem to have made every effort in making every quest an entertaining story. One of the best quest lines I had done was shortly after you leave the tutorials etc. There is a widower hobbit and another hobbit down the road who has a thing for her. You spend the next hour or so doing stuff for both of them trying to convince her that he is worthy. I wont go into any more detail than that but that sort of flair to the quests is in just about every single quest line I have done. Unlike wow and other games you do not feel like you lost a couple IQ points for reading the quests in LoTRO.
Then of course there are the main story line quests, most of which are carried out in instances that are handled superbly well. I do not want to give any info away about these to spoil the surprises here but from the very start of the game there are opportunities to advance the storyline and have an impact on the gameworld (not unlike Guild Wars in that respect). Of course none of the impact is world changing or anything, its not like you can take boromir aside and "say Look I know you want the Ring but seriously... orcs are gonna kick your ass when you catch Frodo out in the woods alone for a minute. It will be better for you the fellowship and Faramir just to stay close to Aragorn and if you are worried about someone send Legolas or Gimli to go watch over em." But, it does work insofar as it pulls you into the gameworld and though you arent going to be the one to eventually face down Sauron or Saruman, you do have a role to play in the story.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
For the unlucky people that did not have a chance to play in the beta.
Race Selection
Selecting your Race. Dwarves do not have male or female. Dwarf women according to the book have beard and i have never met any female characters that would like to look like ZZ top members. But life is so strange sometimes...
Class and Origin
The game allows you to select the origin of your Character which allows you access to different customization parameters. For Example a human from Gondor should not look the same with a human of Rohan. Also Selecting your origin sometimes starts your character in a different area of the game.
Interface Customization
Pressing ctrl+backslash ( key) allows you to reposition toolbars and every form of the game.
And now time for the "Juice" of the game.
Attributes
Lotro does not have Health as hit points but morale. Morale is like hit points but it's major difference it is that it is altered by the mood and the encounters that you will face. For example when you fight a skeleton and you get scared (the Fear resistance counts that) then your morale goes lower until you kill, run away or get defeated by the monster. You don't die in Lotro, intead of that you can be defeated. All these factors have different results according how often you lead your avatar to success or not. Power is like action points which can also be altered with skills potions and the mood and morale of your character. there are many attributes like will, fate which may seem complicated at start but none of them is.
Skills
Skills are separated in 3 major categories Active, Passive and Fellowship skills. Here you can see some of the skills of a level 16 Guardian.
Traits
traits are another way of customizing your Character. You can earn them from quests of any kind. From Lore quests or normal quests. Lore quests will be explained later. Traits can be managed (added or removed) from any bard of any city like Bree.
Titles
Titles can be of any kind as you can see i am a pie eating champion
. (Its a quest in Bree Fields) Most of these titles can be earned through Quests, Lore achievements or from Actions that have positive or negative effect in the evolution of your character. For example if you don't get killed until level 5 you can get the title of <Name> The Wary.
Socials
The social panel is common to all online games. Fellowing is the Group Tab and Kinship is the Guild Tab. Kinships in lotro may be race restricted, for example you can create a kinship that has Elves only.
The Lore Book
The LORE Book. This book has 11 tabs. the first 9 are for every region that you will visit the other 2 are for the class and the "race and Social" . Each page has achievements that you don't know about until you do certain actions in the land you are in. When an achievement is added in the Lore book you see an icon at the boot right of your screen unless you have customized the interface in a different manner. For example if you kill a neekerbreeker in Bree then you get the shield of the achievement. If it is gray it is unfinished when it gets red it is done. Completing achievements grants you titles and traits. As you can see "we have work to do".
The class Lore tab has achievements that so far can be earned through skills if you complete any of them you get a new trait.
Well here the game it self does not tell much about them. Well how to talk with riddles? To be or not to be?
Well i don't know!
Quests
Quests? Oh my God! If you like Quests then you can finish them all in 200 years maybe more. There are are all kinds of quests like:
Escort, Delivery, Craft, Defend ,Grind , Destroy and of course Quests in which you can't fight because you carry heavy things.
Inventory
Inventory is separated into 5 bags. All of them pop up when you press the "i" key or individually by pressing ctl+F1-F5. The lock icons on some items mean that i don't want to accidentally sell them.
The World
This is the Middle Earth Map. I am located at Eriador let's Zoom in a bit more.
BreeLand is where i started playing but let's Zoom a bit further.
Well If you start as a human of Bree you will be lucky since the game after the second tutorial (Yes there are 2) you start at archet again. If you are an explorer nature you know that even the smallest area can be hudge. If you are not and follow just the main quest path then everything seems so small. But hopefully even the smallest area of the game needs about 20 or more minutes to be fully explored so don't worry about the size of the game.
The Chat System is mostly common. A feature i liked was the Instant Message Sessions. There you can easily manage all tells even if your friends in the game want to break your nerves all together. You just click on the corresponding player icon and you respond accordingly. But who needs that? You can use your Microphone. No typing no death.
Mood-Dread-Hope
Pointing your mouse at the strange circle in the mini map allows you to see how you really feel. The better you feel the better you fight. But what will happen if you get defeated? let's see.
When you get defeated you get dread points. Things do not look so good as they were. Actually ther will not be a day that you will feel fine unless you reach certain levels. Every time you lose the dread factor substratcs morale from you so you get defeated a little more easily.
Well That's just a small introduction to LOTRO for the people that did not had the chance to play it. Screenshots were taken from my PC without altering the grafix options just to get a good shot. My PC is old with an nvidia FX 5950. However these professionals proved once more that our old babies can do fine without Quad Cpus and Nvidia Sli systems.
I have many questions myself about certain functionalities of the game but i am not the type to start browsing internet sites for walkthroughs and hints. If you have more accurate information about how the game is then you can freely get screens and info from here and perhaps when the game is fully released we can have an accurate and valid manual.
As for crafting I am sorry but it is not my style. I tried it just a little to find out that it has many nice things and professions but i am not the crafter type. It would be much better for a crafter expert to post some accurate info than just someone who tried crafting to just see how it is.
Thank you.
The Old Forest.
Vael, Pie Eating Champion.
Traveling through the Trollshaws at night, I came upon this campfire and saw the moon above.
This simple scene is one of my favorite.
~ Ancient Membership ~
A day trip to Bree
A nice spot for Some Pipeweed and Lambas Bread
A beautiful Dawn in the Shire Ahhh
Turbine have done a stunning Job of creating Tolkiens world for game ! Roll on April
Im getting excited about LOTRO I signed up for beta but I doubt i will get in. Wish I could experience LOTRO first hand... oh well, ill have to wait for release.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
www.arenammo.com.br/forum/index.php
DOH!!
No more bannings ??
Guess Ill have to go hang around in another unreleased forum now...
*takes the banstick and leaves*
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
http://lotro.turbine.com/index.php?page_id=103
public open beta Apr 06, see #10 on the FAQ
I miss DAoC
So I was at Bag End and I saw two chairs overlooking a small cliff and I was thinking to myself, why choose here as a place to sit and relax
Sooo I went to the edge, and it all made sense
FFXI: Gauhar - Odin
I haven't ever experienced Level 15 - 30 so I don't know how good that part of the game is.
There are animals that don't aggro that move around. You can kill them but it isn't very nice
The crafting system is nice. You get your name on the things you craft.
Different races have a different Epic quest
Start of as an Elf Loremaster with the historian profession. Re-roll as a dwarf champion with the explorer profession... very different experience.
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"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
People in the beta will recognize the last pic of the Shire under attack. Good time.