Freedom is only possible through Death and Destruction

Baywillow

If biology, economy, and society imprison us, and one wants to have free will within his life, and then one can truely have free will and control without biology, economy, and society.

It can be argued that our biology naturally leads us to freedom through the decay of our bodies, but biology also limits and controls us through our physical appearances(bad for ugly and good for the beautiful) and our very own system that forces us to consume to live to consume to live in slaving cycle, until the day we are free from our slave masters.

Economy obviously oppresses many and controls many. The poverished are the unlucky many that did not have the right biology or the right society to be the rich. The rich are controlled by their biology and money is their master. Society imprisons us with religions and laws that others see to their benefit. Society uses economy to place us into a class system.

Ego-destruction, like in Nirvana, is only true freedom if the person is totally spiritual and wants to meditate his whole life into death. Unfortunately, we're in a material world and it must be done away with to achieve freedom, infinite nothingness, no boundaries.

This is not nihilism because nihilism is "the belief that existence is useless and pointless, life has no meaning." The point of existence is to cease to exist. So basically, a system controls and organizes things. If you do not want to be controlled and categorized then get rid of the system by starting with the most minuscule organism, then the earth, then the solar system, the galaxies, and the universe.

Imprisonment and oppression are not states of mind; they are very real. Is it a state of mind when you are a living skeleton because of your body's needs? Is it a state of mind when you fall from a roof top and smash yourself to a bloody pulp because of your physical limitations? The mind is nothing but neurons and chemicals, which is material.

Oppression is relative. It all depends on who is doing onto whom. A society can be oppressive to a certain group, but then another group may not fall under the oppression because they are simply part of the social system, in essence they are a part of the oppressing force. For instance, some people liked living under Nazi dictatorship, but certainly the Jews didn't.

Being dead and being free go together well because when you are dead, you do not have to rely on anything and you have nothing left to lose. Freedom means not having to rely on anything or anyone whatsoever, you have nothing left to lose. For example, the United States is bringing freedom to the Iraqis.

EggFtegg

Don't do it, Baywillow! There's plenty to live for!

Baywillow

Freedom requires pain. I've experienced it through running, and it usually comes around after 6 miles.

outfctrl

You have been listening to too much Janis Joplin.

Baywillow

I've never heard of her music. Is she a hippie musician from the 60s?

outfctrl

Originally posted by Baywillow

I've never heard of her music. Is she a hippie musician from the 60s?

Janis Joplin is very famous.  Mostly in the 60's.  She overdosed on Heroin in 1970.  She also played at Woodstock.

"Me and Bobby McGee" song

Busted flat in baton rouge, waiting for a train

And i's feelin' nearly as faded as my jeans.

Bobby thumbed a diesel down just before it rained,

It rode us all the way in to new orleans.



I pulled my harpoon out of my dirty red bandanna,

An' i's playin' soft while bobby sang the blues, yeah.

Windshield wipers slapping time, i was holding bobby's hand in mine,

We sang every song that driver knew.



Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose,

Nothing don't mean nothing honey if it ain't free.

Yeah, an' feeling good was easy, lord, bobby sang the blues,

You know feeling good was good enough for me, hmm mm,

Good enough for me and my bobby mcgee.



From the kentucky coal mines to the california sun,

Bobby shared the secrets of my soul.

Through all kinds of weather, through everything that we done,

Said bobby baby, he kept me from the cold.



One day up near salinas, lord, i let him slip away,

But he was lookin' for that home and i hope he finds it.

But i'd trade all of my tomorrows for one single yesterday

To be holdin' bobby's body next to mine.



Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose,

Nothing, that's all that bobby left me, yeah.

Feelin' good was easy, lord, bobby he sang the blues,

I said feeling good was good enough for me, hmm mm,

It's good enough for me and my bobby mcgee.

 

Techleo

     The Inanimate seeks to become animate for all eternity. Released from the coils of eternal slumber it briefly feels the flicker of freedom in the moments between its waking and passing. We living mortals briefly enjoy the freedom from nothingness for the sake to allow this wonderful system created or unpurposed to be aware. Aware of existance. Existance is the true purpose of the system. Not the seeking to end. Eventuality makes the end nigh impossible to escape but it is the only purpose of the nothing to see existance. The opening of your eyes to this war gives purpose to live longer, better and to the end of existance. Yet in this state there must admitantly be forces to pull down. Most humans seek to live, for this is the state we have escaped to join. Mere chemicals bound in a zygote, seeking more order, seeking freedom from oblivion. Some though find power in the idea of death. They urge others towards it. Label it there freedom which It may be. The idea is not new. Nor is it unusual. This is the source of the ideal of the Force in the Star Wars series. The ebb and flow of energies forever. Well I spoke to long. Lol this means nothing. It has all to do with opinion. Seek your purpose. If its life, live. If its death, then die. We are what we are.



  This is all rather ironic considering my profile has it listed as Is it Over yet?