Vanguard is pretty good looking I guess but it lacks any kind of style. If you look at it and other more realistic games (everquest 2) they all kinda look the same. LoTR has a certain style to it, and it pays off. Vanguard.... well.... I really don't want to be running around in what I think is an uninspired world.
The majority of people , got over the graphics of Vangaurd in about 3 weeks, the bottom line is this, you boil down the graphics and then look at the "game" , what does it offer you , how is the community how in depth is the lore/story and other aspects of design and animations and ect. What are you looking for in it , are you trying to escape your life and build a new start inside a mmo, i surely don't , i just want to have fun and escaping into somethig that i've always loved as a kid.
Some people love tedious game play , and vangaurd offers that, but i just don't see how you can play that style in a very bug and laggy world. Someone is going to kill themselves because of this game. i'm 100% serious that this game will make someone so furious that they will harm themselves. You can't put people in this kind of environment when they are cult following thier favorite game designer.If someone does go bezerk , guess who would get sued ?
This is probably one of the more amusing posts I have ever read. "OMG..I died again due to lag..Honey get me the vacuum hose time to fire up the old buick and end it once and for all." I doubt it but hell I guess you never know. Think of it as a steroid that stimulates a part of the brain. If that stimulation fails then someone can lose their head.
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
With that said , i like the looks of both games , but still vanguard looks a hell of alot better then lotro imo , only problem is , hardly any systems that can Show how vanguard looks at max Details , and get a decend framerate , and once everything is turned down , VSOH looks like shit . I can play it at med-high settings , and i'm enjoying myself pretty much so far , just hope It'll improve vastly soon , else i'll be Giving Lotro a Shot .
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P
First of all those pics you posted are very, very unimpressive you could have done much better than that even though I happen to think VSoH graphics are lacking a direction and detail, the realistic model just looks the same in all games (ie EQ2)
Second of all if you are going to compare the two games please explain why LotRO is not revolutionary and VSoH is...I would absoulutely love to hear your answer....
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is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.
Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:
Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly
Only ones I have found good so far are:
Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.
A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:
Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
Originally posted by AssAssin_666 is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease . Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.
Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:
Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible. Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly
Only ones I have found good so far are:
Orc Goblin Lesser Giant The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.
A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:
Originally posted by Ghostwise I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
Vanguard screenshots.
In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.
Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P
Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.
if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard, PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT ! what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .
Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.
LOL, those aren't screenshots they're portraits!
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This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....
Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion
This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....
Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion
You havent even played vanguard and your trying to tell me which game's look better , your E2 screenshots looks like 1000s of others ive seen , nothing great but still ok . Tell you strait up i play on a top of the line computer i run the game at 1920 x1200 with every setting maxed on a dell 24 inch wide screen no game our right now even compares to vangaruds graphics
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races.
Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:
Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly
Only ones I have found good so far are:
Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.
A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:
Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
Personally I find LOTRO to be much more bland, and "last generation" graphically. It reminds me alot of DDO's graphics (as well as other areas). The animations (for example, running and combat for my elf) left me disappointed as well. I find I'm just not impressed with the graphics as much as I am with those I see in Vanguard. That being said, I do have the system to run both games at max settings, so I really notice the difference between the limited graphics of LOTRO and the graphics of Vanguard which can fully use my system. However, if Lowdos is correct and the beta version is a "low-res" version, I could certainly see why LOTRO's graphics are so much worse comparitively. Here's a screenshot from my system with Max settings on: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4913/screenshot00006qq6.jpg They're certainly not doing themselves any favours in my book by running with a low-res client. Using the high-res client would allow us a much better feel of what the game world was going to be like, instead of the bland feeling I get from what I see above. However, I expect that they know any high-res client would also mean increased performance issues, which is why they'd be holding it back I imagine. I'm still waiting to be impressed by LOTRO at this point, but I'll certainly give it the benefit of the doubt. I can atleast say I imagine the hardcore LOTR fans will love it either way.
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Vanguard is far from 'next generation'... in fact its like a generation backwards. The animations are terrible and the graphics are blah (yeah I ran them on max settings at 30fps and I still thought they looked crap). The bottom line is that LOTRO does more, with less. Once again goes to show that pure polygon crunching doesnt make the graphics great. Hell even guild wars looks more impressive than VGSOH.
Since they are pals with Sony again perhaps Sigil should go consult EQ2 programmers on how to have awesome graphics. The latest version of LOTR beta is looking very promising, might be what I need to tide me over until Conan.
This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....
Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion
You havent even played vanguard and your trying to tell me which game's look better , your E2 screenshots looks like 1000s of others ive seen , nothing great but still ok . Tell you strait up i play on a top of the line computer i run the game at 1920 x1200 with every setting maxed on a dell 24 inch wide screen no game our right now even compares to vangaruds graphics
Wasn't trying to cause a flame , but just comparing "SHADERS" . I was in Vanguard Beta played a Dwarf, Dark elf and human. I found the Dwarf area pretty neat with the big mine , and used your dimplocy to talk about some dwarfs about a statue they uncovered. My Dark Elf got to level 20. Found the Start areas well done but as I ventured out , it was vary sparse .
Okay, so what do you guys want? VG compared to LotRO, or VG calendar compared to LotRO calendar. As far as I know, games are about motion and animation, and LotRO beats VG hands down, because 1. lotro has something worthy of being called animation 2. Lotro has a specific art direction 3. the enviroments and characters look harmonically intertwined, it has an atmosphere, while VG lacks one.
Anyone can take pretty screenshots, pros can even tweak ugly screenshots to look amazing, but that all doesn't matter, motion matters. When I played VG all my characters felt like ugly rubber dolls.
VG aimed at the upper class of MMO players, the elite. Well, I consider myself of the elite, and I got handed an unpolished mediocre game, makes me laugh really.
And to the guy who said VG had more depth, false, it had a longer learning curve, deep down the combat is as primal as WoW's is.
is it just me , or Do the chars in Lotro look really out of proportion, Guys got the waist of a women with an eating disease .
Imo Vanguard has some weird proportions, LOTRO does far better in this department than Vanguard. There are some really ugly looking proportions. So far I have only found 3 races that look ok, out of all the races. Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard: Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly Only ones I have found good so far are: Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders. A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard: Originally posted by Ghostwise
I've played both games since early beta and while LOTRO is more polished and pretty decent. It isn't revolutionary. Vanguard is by far the prettiest mmorpg out and the deepest in terms of gameplay.
Vanguard screenshots.
In the middle of nowhere and it puts LOTRO to shame.
Yeah.....I can fly up to the top of that mountain in the background. :P
Those two screenshots where beyond terrible If you wanna promote Vanguards graphics post some good screenshots next time.
if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard,
PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT !
what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .
Seriously did you read my post? Or did you just not understand it? And yes I play the game.
I'm talking about the PROPORTIONS of many of the players characters that are awful. And yes, Vengeful , I'm aware of that the players control the proportions somewhat. But many of the races already have weird proportions + a player that thinks a 2 m broad chest is cool = bad result. That was what I was pointing out in my post.
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I miss DAoC
With that said , i like the looks of both games , but still vanguard looks a hell of alot better then lotro imo , only problem is , hardly any systems that can Show how vanguard looks at max Details , and get a decend framerate , and once everything is turned down , VSOH looks like shit . I can play it at med-high settings , and i'm enjoying myself pretty much so far , just hope It'll improve vastly soon , else i'll be Giving Lotro a Shot .
Funny that is what I thought about Vanguard, lots of sliders on their character creators but most ly they just made the character look like a mutant.
img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg
To me it just looks like these guys might spend way too much time working out, but their waists are in pretty good proportion to their hips.
BTW these are all level 1 or level 2 characters with the newbie class armor.
I miss DAoC
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1280*1024, everything maxed. And its what I play with. Nothing I have seen in a game can beat that view!
First of all those pics you posted are very, very unimpressive you could have done much better than that even though I happen to think VSoH graphics are lacking a direction and detail, the realistic model just looks the same in all games (ie EQ2)
Second of all if you are going to compare the two games please explain why LotRO is not revolutionary and VSoH is...I would absoulutely love to hear your answer....
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Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:
Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly
Only ones I have found good so far are:
Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.
A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:
Those two screenshots where beyond terrible
all taken by me
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/110/367392629_c2866b3aed_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/367390302_be6c16e327_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/367387081_dd0bb66041_o.png
if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard,
PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT !
what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .
but now compare . . .
this from vg : http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg
with this from lotr : http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg
kk thanks see you my friend.
Silly fellow
Currently Playing: GW2
Currently Following: Elder Scrolls Online
Games in my wake: Anarchy Online, Archlord (beta), Asherons Call, Asherons Call 2, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot (SI to Catacombs), DDO, EVE Online, EverQuest II (beta), Guild Wars, Horizons, Lineage II,LORTO, Rift, RF Online (beta), RYL, Saga of Ryzon, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, WAR, WoW
This picture is realing a great one to see the emotionless combat. Also start seeing a huge pattern in VSoH of everything is just bumpmaped in wide open terrian with little foliage , think that is why people considered it bland. Does VSoH have any jungles or Rain Forests ? I know that some classes start out in well wooded area but after you journey out , that seemed to sharply decrease....
Here is Everquest 2 screenshot, looks like better shaders and color palette in my opinion
who me ?
Examples of terrible looking races in Vanguard:
Kurashasa: The heads are just plain wrong. Looks quite good from the side, but from the front it is terrible.
Vulmane: Impossible to get the chest to look ok. This also applies to most races, sadly
Only ones I have found good so far are:
Orc
Goblin
Lesser Giant
The Elf's look quite good to, but they look terrible in caster gear, and their body proportions look weird no matter what you do with the sliders.
A example of how wrong it can go in Vanguard:
Those two screenshots where beyond terrible
Ahem....
The Player is in control of the character proportions. If they look odd, it is because YOU put the sliders in an odd combination.
PS: Too bad the gameplay of LoTRO is lacking.
some monster play screens i took, they not on high resolution, though the monsters are very well made and movements and attacks are amazing.
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Vanguard is far from 'next generation'... in fact its like a generation backwards. The animations are terrible and the graphics are blah (yeah I ran them on max settings at 30fps and I still thought they looked crap). The bottom line is that LOTRO does more, with less. Once again goes to show that pure polygon crunching doesnt make the graphics great. Hell even guild wars looks more impressive than VGSOH.
Since they are pals with Sony again perhaps Sigil should go consult EQ2 programmers on how to have awesome graphics. The latest version of LOTR beta is looking very promising, might be what I need to tide me over until Conan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/takaris7/
Wasn't trying to cause a flame , but just comparing "SHADERS" . I was in Vanguard Beta played a Dwarf, Dark elf and human. I found the Dwarf area pretty neat with the big mine , and used your dimplocy to talk about some dwarfs about a statue they uncovered. My Dark Elf got to level 20. Found the Start areas well done but as I ventured out , it was vary sparse .
who me ?
Anyone can take pretty screenshots, pros can even tweak ugly screenshots to look amazing, but that all doesn't matter, motion matters. When I played VG all my characters felt like ugly rubber dolls.
VG aimed at the upper class of MMO players, the elite. Well, I consider myself of the elite, and I got handed an unpolished mediocre game, makes me laugh really.
And to the guy who said VG had more depth, false, it had a longer learning curve, deep down the combat is as primal as WoW's is.
if you never played and do not know nothing about vanguard,
PLEASE DO NOT POST SHIT !
what you are taking are the paperdoll shots taken from a char in static position really low quality shot with a placeholder background and also scrinked char and image . . .
but now compare . . .
this from vg : http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/367391582_89056279b3_o.jpg
with this from lotr : http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2248/screenshot00059fz1.jpg
kk thanks see you my friend.
Seriously did you read my post? Or did you just not understand it? And yes I play the game.I'm talking about the PROPORTIONS of many of the players characters that are awful. And yes, Vengeful , I'm aware of that the players control the proportions somewhat. But many of the races already have weird proportions + a player that thinks a 2 m broad chest is cool = bad result. That was what I was pointing out in my post.