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Was There 4 Kinds of Humans Back Then?

I saw this thing on national geographic 

it said there where 4 kinds of humans 30,000years ago

Hobet-Little people in lord of the rings

Some big people-I dont know there names to hard to remember but it said there average height is 9ft

Humans-Regular people right now

the other one i forgot the name but they where just like regular humans except there had waaaaaay more muscle

 

im just wondering is that true cause i think its bs

but i dunno for sure

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Theres an evil monkey in my closet hes gone BANANA'S!!
help me!

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    *opens bible*



    Hmm...hobbits..nope.

    Giants...well..maybe goliath

    Super saiyans...no, nothing about it either.



    book didn't say anything about it, so it didn't happen.
  • d_sk12d_sk12 Member Posts: 130

    Okay

    dumb national geographic

     

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    Theres an evil monkey in my closet hes gone BANANA'S!!
    help me!

  • JackcoltJackcolt Member UncommonPosts: 2,170
    Lol I'd rather trust FOX News that the bible.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Jackcolt

    Lol I'd rather trust FOX News that the bible.
    silence! The bible is always right, ALWAYS!
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870

    Australopithecus ramidus - 5 to 4 million years ago

    Australopithecus afarensis - 4 to 2.7 million years ago

    Australopithecus africanus - 3.0 to 2.0 million years ago

    Australopithecus robustus - 2.2 to 1.0 million years ago

    Homo habilis - 2.2 to 1.6 million years ago

    Homo erectus - 2 to 0.4 million years ago

    Homo sapiens - 400,000 to 200,000 years ago

    Homo sapiens neandertalensis - 200,000 to 30,000 years ago

    Homo sapiens sapiens - 130,000 years ago to present



  • mbbladembblade Member Posts: 747

    LMAO if your going off a book that was written by some guy that thought it would be fun to write down some BS then you are fecking stupid. To address the first post OMG are you kidding me. Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human. If you believe this for a second why do say they were all human??

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by mbblade


    LMAO if your going off a book that was written by some guy that thought it would be fun to write down some BS then you are fecking stupid. To address the first post OMG are you kidding me. Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human. If you believe this for a second why do say they were all human??
    yeah? well I will have you know that everything that book said is true, because all those millions of people can't be wrong.

    I hope I am mistaken, but are you trying to speak against the bible? your going to hell for that you know.
  • kel11kel11 Member Posts: 1,089
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by mbblade


    LMAO if your going off a book that was written by some guy that thought it would be fun to write down some BS then you are fecking stupid. To address the first post OMG are you kidding me. Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human. If you believe this for a second why do say they were all human??
    yeah? well I will have you know that everything that book said is true, because all those millions of people can't be wrong.

    I hope I am mistaken, but are you trying to speak against the bible? your going to hell for that you know. Please stop Game!  The sarcasm is just to much!  Haha

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  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by mbblade


    Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human.



    This sentence made no sense to me at all.

    Ladies and gents i think we have Darwins missing link right here.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by kel11

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by mbblade


    LMAO if your going off a book that was written by some guy that thought it would be fun to write down some BS then you are fecking stupid. To address the first post OMG are you kidding me. Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human. If you believe this for a second why do say they were all human??
    yeah? well I will have you know that everything that book said is true, because all those millions of people can't be wrong.

    I hope I am mistaken, but are you trying to speak against the bible? your going to hell for that you know.Please stop Game!  The sarcasm is just to much!  Haha

    If only it was actually funny!  Then he would really have something.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    It is possible:



    "hobbits" are a little sketchy, we've found some skeletons of an anthropromorphic species from the time period that averaged about 4 feet in hight yet appeared to have fully adult features. They do appear to be a seperate species, but we are currently having issues about being certain one way or another, especcially since some of the finds have turned out to be definate frauds.



    The 9 footers, I doubt it, there have been some rumors now and again about such a species, but there has yet to be a single scrap of solid evidence that I have heard about.



    Humans, no, but there was the precursor to modern humans. Our current species bears the moniker of Homo Sapiens Sapiens, and yes the double wording was deliberate.



    The final species would have been the Neanderthals, who are probably quite close to whatever mental images you can conjure upon hearing the word caveman.  Ancestral humans came into contact with them shortly before they disappeared, no signs of fighting have been found, they were either outcompeted and/or the two interbred. They had a larger braincase than our ancestors, were quite strong, and had adapted to life in the ice filled climate of what is now called Europe. However skeletal adaptations had robbed them the ability of full armsocket rotation, in other words, they were unable to throw objects properly. When it comes down to evolutionary advantages, the ability to kill creatures from a distance with a spear or slingstone tends to lengthen ones life when hunting creatures such as an Auroch or woolly Mammoth. Its Ironic that in this case, brains did not appear to "win the day"





    Oh, and I agree Draenor, its not funny at all

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  • SlickinfinitSlickinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 1,094
    I seen just recently on a science show that they observed Chimps using spears to kill rival monkeys in Africa I forget which country think it was Kenya. There is lots of unfinished fossils of humanoid primates that have still not been classified either so I really think we barely know our true origins and ancestry and with new discovery happening all the time hopefully we get a better understanding.  They can date Homo-sapiens (us) to almost 1.5 million years ago and we still have lots of pieces to put together to figure out where we evloved directly from but it has to be a primate of some kind. It would have been interesting to see what Earth was like 1-2 mill years ago but I bet it was filled with primates of many kinds and they eventualy became us and I wonder what the next 1-2 mil years will change us into if we make it?

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    It depend on how you define "kind" of human.  If you agree that there are only 1 "kind" of human atm, then I doubt there was ever 4 at any moment, but who knows.  We came from Africa as a specie if the archeologists are to be believes, and there was another kind of human in Europe, sturdier.

     

    The other "kind" of human in Europe did go mostly extinct as we strive for the same ressources, and conflicts results.  Some theorists think they breed into our kind and where assimilated, but if this is the case, they are an insignificant % of the breed of any modern human.  It appears that the kind which use the most sophisticated tools prevails, despite been a lot more frail.  Maybe they wheren't as agile and fast.

     

    All this is hard to developp or prove, as we are talking in time lenght exceeding our known history by at least 10 times.

     

    At any rate, whatever we evolves from, we are most certainly responsible for it disappearance as well.

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Flem said erectus *giggle*

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  • AnagethAnageth Member Posts: 2,217
    Originally posted by Razorback

    Flem said erectus *giggle*
    He said WHAT?



    *runs along to censor it*

    No longer visiting MMORPG.com.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Originally posted by Anageth

    Originally posted by Razorback

    Flem said erectus *giggle*
    He said WHAT?



    *runs along to censor it*

    You want to send him a warning ? or should I  ?  

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  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by Razorback

    Originally posted by Anageth

    Originally posted by Razorback

    Flem said erectus *giggle*
    He said WHAT?



    *runs along to censor it*

    You want to send him a warning ? or should I  ?  

     

    LOL

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Don't forget the Nephilim who were the bastard children of human women and fallen angels that made God call forth the great flood to wipe them out.

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    Neanderthals are the more muscular ones you speak of.

    Our predecessors were there too.

    Ironically enough neanderthals actually have the biggest brain out of any humanoid species yet discovered. 

    "We" just survived over them because we were more "pack" oriented, as in if they played WoW they would solo and then quit at like level 59, we would group all the way to 70

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Draenor

    Originally posted by kel11

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by mbblade


    LMAO if your going off a book that was written by some guy that thought it would be fun to write down some BS then you are fecking stupid. To address the first post OMG are you kidding me. Here again shows are arrogance that every think that stood was human. If you believe this for a second why do say they were all human??
    yeah? well I will have you know that everything that book said is true, because all those millions of people can't be wrong.

    I hope I am mistaken, but are you trying to speak against the bible? your going to hell for that you know.Please stop Game!  The sarcasm is just to much!  Haha

    If only it was actually funny!  Then he would really have something. You wouldn't find anything that mocks christianity funny, so thats not saying much.
  • JackcoltJackcolt Member UncommonPosts: 2,170
    Originally posted by b0rderline99


    Neanderthals are the more muscular ones you speak of.
    Our predecessors were there too.
    Ironically enough neanderthals actually have the biggest brain out of any humanoid species yet discovered. 
    "We" just survived over them because we were more "pack" oriented, as in if they played WoW they would solo and then quit at like level 59, we would group all the way to 70
    Lol we played WoW? How the fuck did we survive this long?

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  • KurushKurush Member Posts: 1,303
    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    It is possible:



    "hobbits" are a little sketchy, we've found some skeletons of an anthropromorphic species from the time period that averaged about 4 feet in hight yet appeared to have fully adult features. They do appear to be a seperate species, but we are currently having issues about being certain one way or another, especcially since some of the finds have turned out to be definate frauds.



    The 9 footers, I doubt it, there have been some rumors now and again about such a species, but there has yet to be a single scrap of solid evidence that I have heard about.



    Humans, no, but there was the precursor to modern humans. Our current species bears the moniker of Homo Sapiens Sapiens, and yes the double wording was deliberate.



    The final species would have been the Neanderthals, who are probably quite close to whatever mental images you can conjure upon hearing the word caveman.  Ancestral humans came into contact with them shortly before they disappeared, no signs of fighting have been found, they were either outcompeted and/or the two interbred. They had a larger braincase than our ancestors, were quite strong, and had adapted to life in the ice filled climate of what is now called Europe. However skeletal adaptations had robbed them the ability of full armsocket rotation, in other words, they were unable to throw objects properly. When it comes down to evolutionary advantages, the ability to kill creatures from a distance with a spear or slingstone tends to lengthen ones life when hunting creatures such as an Auroch or woolly Mammoth. Its Ironic that in this case, brains did not appear to "win the day"





    Oh, and I agree Draenor, its not funny at all
    This isn't bullshit, but some of it isn't established fact, either.  The problem is that some of these beliefs are based on a mix of supposition and archaeological evidence that is difficult to interpret.



    What we do know for sure is that the various homonid species, at certain times, did coexist with the remnants of "less-evolved" (differently evolved is perhaps more accurate) species.  We have very compelling evidence that shows homo sapiens coexisted with Neanderthal Man for a short time.  That's not in dispute among reputable scientists.  That said, they coexisted in the sense that they lived at the same time period.  It's highly doubtful that there was any interraction between the two.



    Your "hobbits" are homo floresiensis, or Flores Man, a species which had brains the size of grapefruits but were roughly three feet tall.  A handful of reputable specialists discovered and studies remains of these people in Indonesia.  Again, this is not really in dispute.



    The "giants" (humans roughly two to three times larger than us) are not widely accepted as having existed.  Don't get me wrong.  There is some minor compelling evidence, but minor evidence is a long way from convincing the entirety of the scientific community, and rightfully so.  "Giant" man seems to have lived much more recently than any other homonid, save for us.  We see numerous mentions of such people in the discovered writings of the earliest human civilizations.  Some anthropologists have also found tombs which supposedly housed the remains of these "giant" men.  Their existence is an area of contention, with a mix of fact and supposition driving theorists who support it.  Here's what's fact.  We have found many tombs (dozens) which, by the markings inside and proportions that we see, suggest that some kind of large man was buried inside.  Many of these correspond with the archaeological findings of their time period which talk of such people.  What's in dispute is that the very scant fossil evidence found in such tombs can be meaningfully interpreted.



    Part of our fascination with giant man is that they feature so strongly in ancient culture.  They're mentioned in the Old and New Testament, as well as writings from the Egyptian and other ancient civilizations.  Perhaps suggestively, they're almost always mentioned not not as the exception, but as a race in themselves.  It's a romantic notion to think such men lived as kings or tyrants, as they usually were depicted to be.  Then again, we see a lot of common myths across very different cultures.  That itself is not evidence of their truth.



    Still, we can't dismiss the notion of collective memory.  To begin with, we don't entirely understand memory.  If a nation or civilization can pass on basic beliefs to its people without ever teaching them, which is a mostly accepted idea, who's to say that many of our fantasy archetypes are not partially based on some greater racial memory?  It's an interesting idea, just not one that can be scientifically supported at this time.
  • RouanRouan Member Posts: 25
    Originally posted by d_sk12


    I saw this thing on national geographic 
    it said there where 4 kinds of humans 30,000years ago
    Hobet-Little people in lord of the rings
    Some big people-I dont know there names to hard to remember but it said there average height is 9ft
    Humans-Regular people right now
    the other one i forgot the name but they where just like regular humans except there had waaaaaay more muscle
     
    im just wondering is that true cause i think its bs
    but i dunno for sure
    I believe they are referring to human-related creatures, though not quite apes.  The 9ft tall one I beleive is referrign to Gigantopithecus who dwelled in China's bamboo forests.  It's theorized that Homo Erectus ended up hunting him for food, and cutting down the bamboo forests, thus elminating him from the world, heh.
  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270

    Not every branch on the evolutionary tree survived or contributed to modern humans. The one they named "hobbit" were not really hobbits, they named it in tribute to the creatures of LoTR and did wonder but it had turned out it was a modern human with a disease, related to the surviving inhabitants of that island who were all very short (shortest was the oldest man on the island, the little guy they had to carry into the hut). I can't remember the name of the disease offhand but it retards physical development (not mental) and keeps a person smaller, the confusion arose since the islands inhabitants can be classified as pygmies already, the disease made the individual even shorter.

    There are also some people at the opposite spectrum, extremely tall, and a disease, gigantism, I believe it's pituitary related as the other may be too. The National Geographic show explored both spectrums after scientists had found the previously mentioned "hobbit" (the show's been aired a number of times, I'd suggest watching it better next time). It's really a good piece that not only explores the many branches of evolution but the problems entailed with finding fossils of people with diseases that cause irregularities.

    As to the arguments about creationism vs evolution here's a few things for you to think of.

    1. How long is a day in heaven? (I don't remember any mention of who's day it was, some planets have days lasting hundreds, thousands, possibly millions of years) Who's to say that one day in heaven is not a billion years on earth?

    2. If the creator is all powerful couldn't he/she create humans any way he/she wants to? No matter what man is still made of the elements of the earth, clay if you will.

    3. The various holy text are suppose to be our creator's words to his children, when you explain something to your own children do you give them all the technical details? No, you put it in simple terms they can grasp and leave it to them to learn more as they grow and can understand better.

    4. If you found we did evolve would you then reject the creator you profess your love for? If so, how sad and shallow a love.

    Half the problems with religious conflicts arise from the fact that there are many interpretations, listen to the word, not to the reader.

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