Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
Maybe im failing to see the hidden evil in the question of the OP so my follow up question will be whats the harm in answering?
Another question. If rolling back SWG to pre NGE would be profitable as it cleary would have been for everyone involved, why would any business say no to that? It clearly killed this game that pre NGE seemed to have a moderate playerbase that was dedicated.
So basically your product was good, your "fixing" unbroken product alienated people = less profit so wouldnt that leave unfixing product to go back to profit? Or do game devs an corporate sharks have to much pride even when profit is involved to admit something sucks?
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
LOL that sure didnt take you long to reply.
NOT reverse psychology, just stating a fact. And I see you are still blowing smoke (as in smoke screen).
I have other questions since you are afraid of answering this one.
No flaming ... just serious questions.
Does it bother you to be one of the most hated former game developers in gaming history? (My answer, it would me)
Does it bother you knowing that you were a significant part of the demise of SWG? (My answer, it would me)
Do you have any remorse whatsoever? (I would) or ...
Do you take the same stance as Smedley? That being ... the only thing they (SOE) did wrong was the way the NGE was implemented? (My answer, I would appologize publicly to the SWG playerbase. Why? Because, I would have been part of a company that sold them a bill of goods and then completely changed it against their wishes after they invested so much time and money.)
Those are MY answers to the same questions. But I am me. Even if my intentions were to make a better game, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have left SWG pretty much says the NGE was the wrong thing to do. I, PERSONALLY, would not feel good about myself knowing that i was apart of the reason why so many devoted pissed off customers left. In all actuallity, I have left a company before because their path was not the same path I thought we should go. So I left to find employment elsewhere. (only happened once ..... thank the Maker)
You can skip answering mine if you would prefer to answer the OP's question.
But more than likely you won't answr any of them. But then silence would speak volumes.
Well I had "hoped" he would have replied to either my questions or the OPs question which I thought was simple, direct, and with out any risk to him.
My questions were more risky. Mine required him to expose himself regarding his true feelings about the situation. I had hoped he would have stepped up to the plate and delivered.
I mean why hide? He doesnt work for $OE any more.
Kudos to the OP for asking a good question. It deserved an answer.
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
hmmm yes indeed, and I am noticing you are still ignoring my question as well.
This was my answer: I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
I am carefully considering whether to answer. Anything not previously announced by SOE is not mine to announce, unless it's actually about me.
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
{ Mod Edit }
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
LOL that sure didnt take you long to reply.
NOT reverse psychology, just stating a fact. And I see you are still blowing smoke (as in smoke screen).
I have other questions since you are afraid of answering this one.
No flaming ... just serious questions.
Does it bother you to be one of the most hated former game developers in gaming history? (My answer, it would me)
Does it bother you knowing that you were a significant part of the demise of SWG? (My answer, it would me)
Do you have any remorse whatsoever? (I would) or ...
Do you take the same stance as Smedley? That being ... the only thing they (SOE) did wrong was the way the NGE was implemented? (My answer, I would appologize publicly to the SWG playerbase. Why? Because, I would have been part of a company that sold them a bill of goods and then completely changed it against their wishes after they invested so much time and money.)
Those are MY answers to the same questions. But I am me. Even if my intentions were to make a better game, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have left SWG pretty much says the NGE was the wrong thing to do. I, PERSONALLY, would not feel good about myself knowing that i was apart of the reason why so many devoted pissed off customers left. In all actuallity, I have left a company before because their path was not the same path I thought we should go. So I left to find employment elsewhere. (only happened once ..... thank the Maker)
You can skip answering mine if you would prefer to answer the OP's question.
But more than likely you won't answr any of them. But then silence would speak volumes.
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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I don't know, many decisions were in the hands of those above me. I doubt it would have been a viable option, since running two versions of the game before the NGE went live was "impossible".
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
{ Mod Edit }
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
hmmm yes indeed, and I am noticing you are still ignoring my question as well.
This was my answer: I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
I am carefully considering whether to answer. Anything not previously announced by SOE is not mine to announce, unless it's actually about me.
Thank you for your response. In that I was asking about a process, and not anything you had any control over, I can see what you mean. Disappointing, because it's what interests me most in this matter, but entirely understandable. Thanks for at least giving me what you have been able to.
If at any time, or anyplace, you are able to answer such, I would greatly appreciate anything you could share on this matter. Thanks again.
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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I don't know, many decisions were in the hands of those above me. I doubt it would have been a viable option, since running two versions of the game before the NGE went live was "impossible".
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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I don't know, many decisions were in the hands of those above me. I doubt it would have been a viable option, since running two versions of the game before the NGE went live was "impossible".
Whis is "before" written in italics?
Has that become viable after then NGE?
That is actually a good question, but for the wrong reason
1- To me it seems Jeff is saying something is lacking post NGE that was not lacking pre-NGE.
2- Either that or Jeff's knowledge of the overall situation was greater during the Pre-NGE, to a point where he could judge if running two versions was a viable option.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii. --In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses. --The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence! --CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
Thanks for the reply. That answers my question anyhow! I'd like to remind every one that the "No Flames" part of my post was a sincere effort to keep things above the belt.
Attack of The Street Pimps! Can you dig it? Can you count sucka's?
Hey, i don't know if you can or will answer this.... but just after the NGE went live and the SWG forums got soaked in petrol, at any time was the notion of a Rollback or Seperate Classic Ruleset Servers put forward? By that i mean was it (at the time i guess) ever a serious and viable option available to the Devs?
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I don't know, many decisions were in the hands of those above me. I doubt it would have been a viable option, since running two versions of the game before the NGE went live was "impossible".
Why is "before" written in italics?
Has that become viable after then NGE? The way I read it is that they thought about rolling the NGE out to maybe a new server or some less sparcely populated ones. Adding a new server to the SWG cluster farm probably isnt hard to do, but in order to have all the servers communicating with the controls etc running NGE and pre probably was a technical hurdle that they neither had the time nor the desire to do.
Now, to remove the NGE would be 1) admitting failure which we all know is not going to happen, and 2) to do to the players of the past year and change exactly what was done to us. Alot of us may want our old game and very possibly would go back if they went to the original game however, they did take a lot of flak for the NGE. To repeat the NGE with an UN-NGE would more than likely drive away more people than it would bring back. I know that I for one, even though I want my original character and the fun I used to have realize full well that that will never occur. Many many people are on their last straw with sony, not counting those like myself whom are done with them entirely, and to un-nge-ify the game would drive them out.
With the advancements of the *not to be named project* I will most likely find myself on one of those servers to dink around, go back to taming critters and just having fun, but not enough to warrant a subscription. I also know that my old guilds are looking forward rather than behind and an mmo without friends just isnt the same.
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This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
Maybe im failing to see the hidden evil in the question of the OP so my follow up question will be whats the harm in answering?
Another question. If rolling back SWG to pre NGE would be profitable as it cleary would have been for everyone involved, why would any business say no to that? It clearly killed this game that pre NGE seemed to have a moderate playerbase that was dedicated.
So basically your product was good, your "fixing" unbroken product alienated people = less profit so wouldnt that leave unfixing product to go back to profit? Or do game devs an corporate sharks have to much pride even when profit is involved to admit something sucks?
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
LOL that sure didnt take you long to reply.
NOT reverse psychology, just stating a fact. And I see you are still blowing smoke (as in smoke screen).
I have other questions since you are afraid of answering this one.
No flaming ... just serious questions.
Those are MY answers to the same questions. But I am me. Even if my intentions were to make a better game, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have left SWG pretty much says the NGE was the wrong thing to do. I, PERSONALLY, would not feel good about myself knowing that i was apart of the reason why so many devoted pissed off customers left. In all actuallity, I have left a company before because their path was not the same path I thought we should go. So I left to find employment elsewhere. (only happened once ..... thank the Maker)
You can skip answering mine if you would prefer to answer the OP's question.
But more than likely you won't answr any of them. But then silence would speak volumes.
Well I had "hoped" he would have replied to either my questions or the OPs question which I thought was simple, direct, and with out any risk to him.
My questions were more risky. Mine required him to expose himself regarding his true feelings about the situation. I had hoped he would have stepped up to the plate and delivered.
I mean why hide? He doesnt work for $OE any more.
Kudos to the OP for asking a good question. It deserved an answer.
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
hmmm yes indeed, and I am noticing you are still ignoring my question as well.
This was my answer: I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
I am carefully considering whether to answer. Anything not previously announced by SOE is not mine to announce, unless it's actually about me.
Jeff Freeman
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
LOL that sure didnt take you long to reply.
NOT reverse psychology, just stating a fact. And I see you are still blowing smoke (as in smoke screen).
I have other questions since you are afraid of answering this one.
No flaming ... just serious questions.
Those are MY answers to the same questions. But I am me. Even if my intentions were to make a better game, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have left SWG pretty much says the NGE was the wrong thing to do. I, PERSONALLY, would not feel good about myself knowing that i was apart of the reason why so many devoted pissed off customers left. In all actuallity, I have left a company before because their path was not the same path I thought we should go. So I left to find employment elsewhere. (only happened once ..... thank the Maker)
You can skip answering mine if you would prefer to answer the OP's question.
But more than likely you won't answr any of them. But then silence would speak volumes.
I have answered all those questions previously.
Jeff Freeman
Jeff Freeman
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
This is one thread I have been watching, just to see if that guy calling himself Jeff Freeman had the intestinal fortitude to answer a very simple and direct question.
From the moment I saw this posted I knew he wouldn't reply. He might now tho. But he won't answer the question.
Oh, reverse psychology with all the loopholes covered. You must have had a clever DM with a special fondness for evil genies at some point in your gaming career.
I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
hmmm yes indeed, and I am noticing you are still ignoring my question as well.
This was my answer: I'm very carefully considering whither questions to answer, with a heavy bias for not.
I am carefully considering whether to answer. Anything not previously announced by SOE is not mine to announce, unless it's actually about me.
Thank you for your response. In that I was asking about a process, and not anything you had any control over, I can see what you mean. Disappointing, because it's what interests me most in this matter, but entirely understandable. Thanks for at least giving me what you have been able to.
If at any time, or anyplace, you are able to answer such, I would greatly appreciate anything you could share on this matter. Thanks again.
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Why is "before" written in italics?
Has that become viable after then NGE?
Whis is "before" written in italics?
Has that become viable after then NGE?
That is actually a good question, but for the wrong reason
1- To me it seems Jeff is saying something is lacking post NGE that was not lacking pre-NGE.
2- Either that or Jeff's knowledge of the overall situation was greater during the Pre-NGE, to a point where he could judge if running two versions was a viable option.
--When you resubscribe to SWG, an 18 yearold Stripper finds Jesus, gives up stripping, and moves with a rolex reverend to Hawaii.
--In MMORPG's l007 is the opiate of the masses.
--The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
--CCP could cut off an Eve player's fun bits, and that player would say that it was good CCP did that.
Thanks for the reply. That answers my question anyhow! I'd like to remind every one that the "No Flames" part of my post was a sincere effort to keep things above the belt.
Attack of The Street Pimps! Can you dig it? Can you count sucka's?
Why is "before" written in italics?
Has that become viable after then NGE? The way I read it is that they thought about rolling the NGE out to maybe a new server or some less sparcely populated ones. Adding a new server to the SWG cluster farm probably isnt hard to do, but in order to have all the servers communicating with the controls etc running NGE and pre probably was a technical hurdle that they neither had the time nor the desire to do.
Now, to remove the NGE would be 1) admitting failure which we all know is not going to happen, and 2) to do to the players of the past year and change exactly what was done to us. Alot of us may want our old game and very possibly would go back if they went to the original game however, they did take a lot of flak for the NGE. To repeat the NGE with an UN-NGE would more than likely drive away more people than it would bring back. I know that I for one, even though I want my original character and the fun I used to have realize full well that that will never occur. Many many people are on their last straw with sony, not counting those like myself whom are done with them entirely, and to un-nge-ify the game would drive them out.
With the advancements of the *not to be named project* I will most likely find myself on one of those servers to dink around, go back to taming critters and just having fun, but not enough to warrant a subscription. I also know that my old guilds are looking forward rather than behind and an mmo without friends just isnt the same.
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