Actually this does meet the requirements for a critical evaluation. He stated his premise (read opinion or point of view), listed his reasons for that premise, then offered a conclusion based on those reasons, which supports his premises. Thus it is a critical evaluation having all the elements of a reasoned argument. The only question is whether you accept the reasons, or feel that his reasons support his conclusion. But they are there so it is a review. Venge Sunsoar
This score has come up alot for me. A few weeks ago I would have scored it a 6. Memory leaks have been fixed. Mobs no longer disapear while engaged. Stutter has been greatly reduced. My fps has increased from 15-20 to 25-30 with no adjustment on my end. For perspective sake...rig is a 3500 amd, Nvid 6600 gpu, 1 gig of ram...graphics set to high quality thought I can play on balanced with a 5-10 fps hit on my cpu. Since graphics aren't a major priority for me..I play on high performance instead..game still looks plenty good to me.
I lose connections with the social server fairly often and the chunk crossing remain to be an issue. Those are my two biggiest complaints. Losing the social server connection forces a relog to fix and the chunk crossings can sometimes crash me to desktop and always involve about a 10 second pause while the new chunk loads. I think my 1 gig of ram has alot to do with that though. I will be upgrading ram soon...2-3 gigs is highly reccomended.
That is utter bullshit my friend. there is no way at ALL that u are playing this game on high with 1 gig of ram at 15 - 30 fps. sorry.
You are correct...I shall edit that statement.
I meant to say high performance. I beg your pardon.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
to go over (lessons, studies, work, etc.) in review.
13.
to view, look at, or look over again.
14.
to inspect, esp. formally or officially: to review the troops.
15.
to survey mentally; take a survey of: to review the situation.
16.
to discuss (a book, play, etc.) in a critical review; write a critical report upon.
17.
to look back upon; view retrospectively.
18.
to present a survey of in speech or writing.
19.
Law. to reexamine judicially: a decision to review the case.
20.
Bridge. to repeat and summarize (all bids made by the players).
–verb (used without object)
21.
to write reviews; review books, movies, etc., as for a newspaper or periodical: He reviews for some small-town newspaper.
[Origin: 1555–65; < MF revue, n. use of fem. ptp. of revoir to see again ? L revidére, equiv. to re-re- + vidére to see; see view]
—Related forms
re·view·a·ble, adjective
re·view·a·bil·i·ty, noun
re·view·less, adjective
—Synonyms 1. Review, criticism imply careful examination of something, formulation of a judgment, and statement of the judgment, usually in written form. A review is a survey over a whole subject or division of it, or esp. an article making a critical reconsideration and summary of something written: a review of the latest book on Chaucer. A criticism is a judgment, usually in an article, either favorable or unfavorable or both: a criticism of a proposed plan. The words are interchanged when referring to motion pictures or theater, but review implies a somewhat less formal approach than criticism in referring to literary works: movie reviews; play reviews; book reviews. 8. reconsideration, reexamination. 16. criticize.
Nothing there to the effect a review is only based on facts. Facts are not mentioned at all in fact. There are..however..several implications to a review being opinion based.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Main Entry: 2re·view
Pronunciation: ri-'vyü
Function: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again
2: to examine or study again; especially: to reexamine judicially
3: to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a: to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study> b: to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5: to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1: to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
While I respect your thoughts and opinions, I do have to agree with the others that this review is quite one-sided. It is quite ok, as I have seen plenty of reviews to the other extreme, and even seen the "Anti-review" garbage that has been posted. With all that in mind, I appreciate your willingness to put yourself "on the line" for this game, however it is possible to be a bit more realistic.
I score with 10 being the best and 1 being the worst.
Chacter models / creation ~ 9 6
You even admitted the limited hairstyles, and the characters can look the same in a lot of respects. First thing though is the character creation itself. It lags. The character screens shouldn't lag at all. This is the first thing everyone sees when they start the game, and sometimes it lags pretty bad, no matter what system you have. Doesn't give a very good impression if you're lagging while creating your first character. It has been remedied a good amount, but just not enough IMO. 4 hairstyles and 4 faces that all look nearly exactly the same. If you're going to give me 4 different faces, make them completely different. Like one with tattoos, and one with piercings, and one with freckles, and etc. Give me scars and moles, make them different, really different.
Starting Areas ~ 9 7
You already mentioned the learning curve in getting to know the areas. I also want to mention that in some cases quests seem to jump a level or two from one to another. This gives the impression of grinding early in the game. If I have to level before completing my next quest, then that is poor planning. While I agree that some areas are better than others, it seems to me that with only 3 starting areas they should have had all 3 done to level 10 by launch ready or not. It just gives a very poor impression when someone is struggling within their own starting town.
Game Performance ~ 8 6
This really doesn't need my comments. Everyone knows about performance issues in the game. It has improved a hundred fold since launch, but in my opinion, still has a ways to go yet.
Combat ~ 10 9
I pretty much agree with you here. Maybe a little more training in this regard would help, as I am a veteran of MMO's since UO. I can see where a lot of people would be confused early on about what to do when. Another learning curve that really does not have to exist, as combat does get a lot more complicated later on, and some help in this regard early on would help. The disgusting UI doesn't help much, but I understand why it exists as it is almost identical to WoW's. A better UI is really needed badly.
Crafting ~ 8 8
I agree completely. A lot of people won't really realize the importance of the crafting until later and there are higher level crafters. The crafters will make the world, and after some player organized places are in place, it will really shine. There really does need to be a better tutorial as the one in game is terrible and will frustrate a lot of people right off the bat.
Diplomacy ~ 9 9
Diplomacy is brilliant, and I really hope it garners a better role in the game. It really takes SEVERAL levels of it to really show its potential and a lot of people usually quit by then. Also, maybe more variations in use would help. I do like the push to have players work together to change the world they "live" in.
Graphics ~ 10 9
I wouldn't say fantastic, but it is of the better tier of what's out there. There are places I have been that absolutely make my jaw drop in awe. Animations still need some help, but with the improvements in performance, that should subside.
Community ~ 10 8
I really had to think about this as the community is its best asset and worst enemy at the same time. Most everyone in game is very helpful, nice, and quite vocal at times. I guess it just comes from feelings of being let down over and over again. Defending this game is fine, but to call names and call people WoW carebears is just not needed. The community should welcome all subscribers with open arms, and just play. If they have complaints, let them complain. They have the right to view their opinion of what they like and don't like. While someone who just doesn't like the gameplay will probably leave anyways, those that are "on the fence" will definitely be turned off with insults, even if they aren't directed to them. This is a community (grouping) game foremost so group with them, and help them to overcome their doubts, and you will build a greater community overall. That is what this game is about, COMMUNITY.
This game is so big..and so deep..I could almost go on forever. It is a fantastic experience for those players who value the journey more than the destination. Its a great game for those that appreciate the fact that the sweet aint so sweet without some bitter.
Overall score is a very solid ~ 9 7.75
I think this score will be a 10 a year from now. I think Vanguard is going to be a major success. I would predict over 500k in subs a year from now ...with over a million subs within two years. I think this may even be conservative. Six months from now...once the remaining few bugs are ironed out...people will be coming to Vanguard to play in droves. I'm enduring a few the bugs now so that I will be set up real nice when this game explodes in population. I have no doubt at all it will. Its infamous status now is actualy helping things. Vanguard is nearly a household name as it is.
I do believe you are overstating it a bit. It will get better, and more people will come. I guess time will tell. For now, it still needs a lot of work to even get to the 250,000 subscribers needed to make it successful. This game will never be a "starter MMO" for 90% of consumers, and for a lot will probably never satisfy. If someone is just looking for a "solo game in a MMO package" this will never be it.
Vanguard is the game that sucks less than the rest !
Not a very good advertisement.
Flamers ..flame on.
Jackdog....Godpuppet and all you other Vanguard trolls...have a blast and pick apart my review.
I rest my case
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
While I respect your thoughts and opinions, I do have to agree with the others that this review is quite one-sided. It is quite ok, as I have seen plenty of reviews to the other extreme, and even seen the "Anti-review" garbage that has been posted. With all that in mind, I appreciate your willingness to put yourself "on the line" for this game, however it is possible to be a bit more realistic. I score with 10 being the best and 1 being the worst. Chacter models / creation ~ 9 6 You even admitted the limited hairstyles, and the characters can look the same in a lot of respects. First thing though is the character creation itself. It lags. The character screens shouldn't lag at all. This is the first thing everyone sees when they start the game, and sometimes it lags pretty bad, no matter what system you have. Doesn't give a very good impression if you're lagging while creating your first character. It has been remedied a good amount, but just not enough IMO. 4 hairstyles and 4 faces that all look nearly exactly the same. If you're going to give me 4 different faces, make them completely different. Like one with tattoos, and one with piercings, and one with freckles, and etc. Give me scars and moles, make them different, really different. Starting Areas ~ 9 7 You already mentioned the learning curve in getting to know the areas. I also want to mention that in some cases quests seem to jump a level or two from one to another. This gives the impression of grinding early in the game. If I have to level before completing my next quest, then that is poor planning. While I agree that some areas are better than others, it seems to me that with only 3 starting areas they should have had all 3 done to level 10 by launch ready or not. It just gives a very poor impression when someone is struggling within their own starting town. Game Performance ~ 8 6 This really doesn't need my comments. Everyone knows about performance issues in the game. It has improved a hundred fold since launch, but in my opinion, still has a ways to go yet. Combat ~ 10 9 I pretty much agree with you here. Maybe a little more training in this regard would help, as I am a veteran of MMO's since UO. I can see where a lot of people would be confused early on about what to do when. Another learning curve that really does not have to exist, as combat does get a lot more complicated later on, and some help in this regard early on would help. The disgusting UI doesn't help much, but I understand why it exists as it is almost identical to WoW's. A better UI is really needed badly. Crafting ~ 8 8 I agree completely. A lot of people won't really realize the importance of the crafting until later and there are higher level crafters. The crafters will make the world, and after some player organized places are in place, it will really shine. There really does need to be a better tutorial as the one in game is terrible and will frustrate a lot of people right off the bat. Diplomacy ~ 9 9 Diplomacy is brilliant, and I really hope it garners a better role in the game. It really takes SEVERAL levels of it to really show its potential and a lot of people usually quit by then. Also, maybe more variations in use would help. I do like the push to have players work together to change the world they "live" in. Graphics ~ 10 9 I wouldn't say fantastic, but it is of the better tier of what's out there. There are places I have been that absolutely make my jaw drop in awe. Animations still need some help, but with the improvements in performance, that should subside. Community ~ 10 8 I really had to think about this as the community is its best asset and worst enemy at the same time. Most everyone in game is very helpful, nice, and quite vocal at times. I guess it just comes from feelings of being let down over and over again. Defending this game is fine, but to call names and call people WoW carebears is just not needed. The community should welcome all subscribers with open arms, and just play. If they have complaints, let them complain. They have the right to view their opinion of what they like and don't like. While someone who just doesn't like the gameplay will probably leave anyways, those that are "on the fence" will definitely be turned off with insults, even if they aren't directed to them. This is a community (grouping) game foremost so group with them, and help them to overcome their doubts, and you will build a greater community overall. That is what this game is about, COMMUNITY. This game is so big..and so deep..I could almost go on forever. It is a fantastic experience for those players who value the journey more than the destination. Its a great game for those that appreciate the fact that the sweet aint so sweet without some bitter. Overall score is a very solid ~ 9 7.75 I think this score will be a 10 a year from now. I think Vanguard is going to be a major success. I would predict over 500k in subs a year from now ...with over a million subs within two years. I think this may even be conservative. Six months from now...once the remaining few bugs are ironed out...people will be coming to Vanguard to play in droves. I'm enduring a few the bugs now so that I will be set up real nice when this game explodes in population. I have no doubt at all it will. Its infamous status now is actualy helping things. Vanguard is nearly a household name as it is. I do believe you are overstating it a bit. It will get better, and more people will come. I guess time will tell. For now, it still needs a lot of work to even get to the 250,000 subscribers needed to make it successful. This game will never be a "starter MMO" for 90% of consumers, and for a lot will probably never satisfy. If someone is just looking for a "solo game in a MMO package" this will never be it. Vanguard is the game that sucks less than the rest ! Not a very good advertisement. Flamers ..flame on. Jackdog....Godpuppet and all you other Vanguard trolls...have a blast and pick apart my review. I rest my case
Of course its one sided !! It my sided !!
What other side would you want ? Should I include the side from the guy accross the street? How about the mail mans perspective ? Maybe the UPS guy has a side he would like me to represent ?!
Yes ..it IS one sided ! It's MY sided !
That's why It's MY REVIEW...duh..good grief yall !
Though I respect your side....it's obviously one sided
Well the word 'realistic' in the title did suggest that the review would be a little more than just a personal opinion.
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"At the very least, doing the wet towel snap should disconnect the nerves of the spinal column, causing total paralysis, thus enabling you to skin the bastard alive."
Actually i hate to tell you but it does state that a review is not a opinion. Facts are not opinions they are facts proven to be true by research. if your so called review wasn't biased in the least then it may in fact be considered a review , sadly it is merely a opinion of how you perceive the game.
Once you understand the basic concept of a review and what facts are then you can base your opinions in fact and thus turn your "review" into a actual review.
Have a good day and don;'t bother flaming me as i hardly come to this site but i got sick of people praising a obviously flawed game that really should not have been put out till later this year, sadly this was both Sigil's fault for borrowing money and Sony for being the POS company they are.
3 years of MMO experiance...heh,
try having 10+ years son, then we can talk now granted that doesn't make me a better person or a better gamer just someone who's been around longer in the MMO world to know when you can't polish a turd. I appreciate that you like the game and thats your OPINION but the game is just in a horrid state (FACT)
mull this over, respond i won't read it i'm going back to playing one of the several CB's i'm in.
started out interesting, then I saw all the 10s ..
meh, stopped reading, why bother,
I'll read something that gives me some hope of learning something new,
I wish all the best to VSoH, I hope that they fix it all but I'll tell you this, pretending that a whole bunch of problems do not exist is scarier than admitting to them
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Main Entry: 2re·view
Pronunciation: ri-'vyü
Function: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again
2: to examine or study again; especially: to reexamine judicially
3: to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a: to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study>b: to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5: to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1: to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
doensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Main Entry: 2re·view
Pronunciation: ri-'vyü
Function: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again
2: to examine or study again; especially: to reexamine judicially
3: to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a: to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study>b: to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5: to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1: to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
doensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
Seriously you admit you did not do this. You admit your bias of the game has effected your scores. How many more words do we need to look up?
I have given you two definitions of the word reviews and one on the word review. Your argument was that a review must be statement of fact. My arguement is that a review is a statement of opinion. All these definitions support my arguement. I was critcial. I was also reviewed from the perspective that I see.
I still stick to my review. Of course the numbers are high. If I felt the need to give the game lower numbers it is unlikely that I would be playing Vanguard.
Now..if I had said..." A Professional Unbiased Review of Vanguard "...many of yall would have room to argue. I did not. I gave a review that is realistic to ME . You many choose to agree...or not agree...that is your right.
In response to Mr. Greenhell poster...you have lost this debate on the definition of a review. If I need to explain any further than it is obvious that you will not understand the answer anyways.
Vanguard is a great game. Me and 10 's of thousands of people believe this. Many do not come to these boards simply because ..well...they suck...packed full of kiddies and trolls.
Vanguard is going to have over 500k in subs within a year and over a million subs in over 2 years. Know it..mark it..believe it.
this isnt a realistic review its tainted by your biasedness, you like the game so much you find it hard to rate it low, this game is more of a 7, and in a year or so will be a 9.
Well ...duh !!!
All reviews are baised ones OPINION ....same review with a more negative bias would turn out with equally biased negative results. That statement is completely irrational...
of course my review is biased high ! duh! because I really like the game ! Would it makes sense to give it a low score and then state that I really like the game? nooooo.......moron
hey take it easy, im playing the game my self and enjoy it alot but if your gonna state it as "realistic review" then try to leave the favoritism out. IT is a realistic review from the poster's perspective. Of course it will be pro becuase he likes it, if he wouldnt havel iked it, it would of been against the game. If you dont have an opinion then its not a review but rather list of facts. If its a review, it has to be either pro or against the game in general or specific parts of the game.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Main Entry: 2re·view
Pronunciation: ri-'vyü
Function: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again
2: to examine or study again; especially: to reexamine judicially
3: to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a: to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study>b: to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5: to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1: to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
doensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
Seriously you admit you did not do this. You admit your bias of the game has effected your scores. How many more words do we need to look up?
I dont know how you can form an opinion without being biased one way or another. If you know nothing about an object you are supposed to review then you cannot make a fair judgement, you MUST examine it. During examination, you are gonna feel positively or negatively, or maybe indifferent, but you are gonna be biased one way or another. So you cant realy make a judgement without having a feeling one way or the other.
What I believe is meant with the words "TO SEE THINGS CLEARLY" is without unreasonable bias for or against the game. Why unreasonable? Becuase if I do like the game, I am already a bit biased as u say towards it. Just as you would be biased against it if you DONT like the game. This predisposition is reasonable in my view becuase you will NOT go out of your way to prove your point one way or another, you are not gonna lie or cheat about it. What would unreasonable bias be? A mother would be unreasonably biased towards her son, she would lie and cheat and do anything for her child, hence you cant realy trust her opinion on her son. In this case, Brad, Sigil, SOE or anyone financialy linked to the game would be unreasonably biased towards it. Since he is not one of them (are ya?), his opinion is as much biased towards the game as yours against. His facts are not distorted and opinions are reasonable.
Graphics ~ 10 Simply put...fantastic! I do not have a single complaint in the graphics department. They do require a high end machine. Any gaming rid bought today though for about $2000 ( not store bought ones )..custom online ones can play this game at max settings with acceptable fps of 30-40 range. The colors, lighting, view distance, animations, water....everything..gorgeous ! Don't listen to the nay sayers....most of them just got their egos crushed when their " killer rig " they bought a year go won't get the 60+fps they are used too. You will find most of them are under the age of 20 yrs and have their egos tied up in their rigs like one would have their egos tied up in there hot rod cars too. A year from now your standard $1500 cpu will run this game great with the price of technology coming down fast and the game continueing to optimize.
You don't see a problem with a game that will require someone to pay $1500 for a CPU a year from now to run smoothly? That's a joke man. No, I don't expect 60 FPS, but 15-25 FPS for a decent machine (what you have) running on performance setting is ridiculous. I'd consider buying the game if I didn't know that it won't run on my PC and there's no way I'm upgrading just to play it.
By the way, your experience with MMO's is pretty light, far from moderate I would say. Horizons and Guild Wars are the not the greatest games to be comparing too. Not saying you have to have played WoW, but something a little more meaty than Horizons and Guild Wars. I'll admit I don't know a lot about Horizons, but from reviews I've read It's not too impressive. And I know I may get a few nasty comments, but personally I don't even consider Guild Wars an MMO. It's more along the lines an of OLRPG, similar to say a Diablo II.
Ok, let me give this a crack - I am going to be brutally honest, and I will admitt up front I'm basically a VG fanboy...
Character Models/Creation - 8 - Very good, similar to SWG wich had great character creation. Classes feel different and that is a big plus. Many Class/Race Combos to choose from.
Starting Areas - MMO Vet - 8 / MMO Nub - 4 - The starting areas are great if you know your way around MMO's because it throws you into the game rather quick. They suck if your an MMO Nub for the same reason - being thrown into the game...There REALLY should be some type of Tutorial area (Everquest 2's was outstanding - the ship/starter island).
Game Performance - 6 -
A) Like the op, I would have put it 2 notches down during beta 5 (I played since beta 2 when it was almost unplayable). This score is rising fast and I could give it an 8 in a month or so if they keep improving performance. I don't mind it much, but I'm on a high end rig (C2D E6600, 2GB DDR2 800, 8800GTX @ 1440x900). People playing on older hardware will suffer (even now, though it's much better) They definetly will have to dumb down the graphics, wich is a huge bummer (See Graphics)
Consistant bugs are another reason I gave it a low score. It was actually better during beta 5 for me than now. I get 1-3 CTD's every session. This could in part, be due to my hard drive being rather cluttered and almost full (10k Raptor 74gb). I doubt this though, because I have friends running very similar systems that are on clean installs and still get around the same CTD's..I am sure that this will be fixed within a month or two, but it should be corrected ASAP.
Combat - Solo 6 - Group 8 - Solo is kinda of repetative for me (I play mostly casters). Here is a synopsis - Big Nuke, Slow, Instant Nuke, Big Nuke, Slow, rinse & repeat...Kinda boring yeah? Group - More fun, more variety, good group dynamics in relation to combat.
Crafting - NA - I'm an adventurer not a damn crafter :P I hear both good and bad about it though, and as such, I won't give it a score...
Diplomacy - NA - See Above, except I have heard it's a great idea, but with too many bugs at this point.
Graphics - 4 / 9 - 4 - on low end machines with everything down to the lowest, the game looks like EQ1 (or worse). I just don't see the desire to play a game that looks like that. 9 - On High/Ultra high on a fast machine, the graphics are simply amazing (check that draw distance!!!)
Community - 7 - Most people in the game are decent, but many player simply don't know how to play thier class and or are rude at times. For some reason, in this game Tanks are main offenders (especially in Dungeon situations...A level 18 tank should be able to hold aggro for a group of 16/17's (assuming they are playing their roles correctly)). It's not like it can't be done, I've also been with some really good tanks in dungeons, they just seem to be too few and far between. Thank god we have 2 tanks leveling up in our guild ATM...
Overall Score - AND I HATE TO DO THIS - 6.5 or 7 - There was not category for "Gameplay" for wich I would have given the game a 9 or 10...I am extremely addicted at this point. The most fun I've had in a game since EQ1. That said, there are still to many flaws to rate it higher. I think these issues can and will be addressed in the future, and I would venture to guess in 6 months I'd probably be able to give the game an 8.5 or 9, but I just can't do that at this point...
The problem is that when he states his review as being realistic, he is implying that anyone who gives a review that does not match his as being unrealistic. That smacks of arrogance and pig headedness.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
The problem is that when he states his review as being realistic, he is implying that anyone who gives a review that does not match his as being unrealistic. That smacks of arrogance and pig headedness.
I made no such implication. You infered that. I can not help what goes on in your own mind.
When I gave a " realistic" review...I did just that...from my perspective as all reviews are done from their perspective. Perspective based on past experience and opinion.
You point out anywhere in my review that indicates that if someone's opinion differs from mine ..it is unrealistic and I'll give you a cookie.
You attempting to point out a " problem" that is not there smacks of arrogance and pig headeness. I think you are simply projecting your own personal issues onto me.
I think Vanguard is a great game. I think much of that is because I spent the last 3 years playing Horizons...particularly in regards to graphics.
So I love the game Vanuard...big deal. I think its a great game and gave it high scores to reflect that...properly noting faults, but awknowleging that those faults don't really bother me that much.
The problem with the people in these forums is THEY can not handle a difference in opinion. These forums are so full of people that simply love to be negative. The world is like that for the most part. Putting other people down and their opinions down puts them in a position of supiority..in their own minds at least. At times people agree with them which helps them feel validated. It's human nature really..not a particularly bad thing..I'm guilty of it myself...though I try to avoid it. Self awareness is the key. When I do it..I know I'm doing it....many others do not have this self awareness...they just hate and hate without ever really thinking about ...why? Then they stand there ..scratching their heads wondering why they are so miserable and nobody likes them.
I'd say this review is 'realistic' (as subjective) but not 'objective' cause that's a difference :P
if the 'reviewer' doesn't mind bugs and enjoy the game anyway, he can write a 'realistic' review without bugs as obstacle to the final rating but in 'objective' review he'd HAVE to lower the rates cause of bugs
so ya, giving a perfect score to unfinished game is realistic and most of all subjective, but it's not objective, is it?
I've read a lot of bashing of VG, I feel kinda sorry for the game, but all those bashing reviews, anti-reviews etc. provides much more information for me than this kind of fan review, cause if a game is unfinished and has so many bugs, and especially when it's making people to hate it so much like I've read in some of the reviews from bigger gaming sites (f.e. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=158416) , there MUST be something wrong with the game and it surely doesn't deserve such high rate you need to look on a game with more sober look next time when you decide to write your review
I don't know if VG really sux so bad as majority of people I saw are saying, but all those negative things I've read about are enough of a reason for me to not play it and not to take seriously a fan review like this one, cause there's the question I'm asking myself now: "Why VG recieved SO MANY bad reviews and games like WOW (haven't played it either) or LOTRO or ... recieved so many good reviews? Why reviewers didn't bash games like DAoC, but they are bashing VG?" I guess it's cause of the fact that VG really isn't THAT good as you claim in your review
if you like to pay for buggy and unfinished game with thinking that 'one day I'm sure they'll finish it' it's your decision of course, but I know that I won't pay for such defective product
Thamoris, Holy crap, just by reading your posts, I guessed to myself, "This guy must be from Texas!" All hat, no cattle! Uhm, that's all. No need to respond, just thought it was funny how right my shot in the dark turned out to be.
lol
Yes..I am currently ..and proudly living in the fine state of Texas. I occasionaly have to endure the typical southern white trash type comments...though all that does is define such posters just as ignorant as your typical southern white trash. I have however lived all over the US and traveled to several other countries. Likely I'll die in Texas though..the longer I live here..the more I appreciate its independant..kiss my ass ...culture.
If you subtracted 1 from each score i might consider it realistic. Almost no one gives out that many 10s that freely. And when you are giving 10s on aspects that a large number of non-trolls and semi-trolls have specifically criticized I find it hard to swallow.
If you subtracted 1 from each score i might consider it realistic. Almost no one gives out that many 10s that freely. And when you are giving 10s on aspects that a large number of non-trolls and semi-trolls have specifically criticized I find it hard to swallow.
See..that is the whole point. It IS realistic...from my perspective. I have been truely amazed at much of what Sigil has done with Vanguard !
Nobody can tell me what MY reality is...see. If I think something deserves a 10 ...then I give it a 10 ! Why does everyone seem to think that their reality has to be my reality ? That if their my reality differs from their reality it is somehow wrong ? It is this egotistical approach to life that causes so much of this world to hate Americans. So many in our country think that because its OUR way ..it must be the RIght way. In truth..I think there is no right or worng way...there is not realistic or unrealistic reviews....there is only what each person precieves as right and wrong..realistic and unrealistic. The perceptions will be as varied as there are people on this earth.
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You are both a gentleman and a scholar!
/bows
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/reviewing
Now this is from Websters you tell me what definition of the word we should be using here. Maybe it wasnt really time to move on yet.
You are correct...I shall edit that statement.
I meant to say high performance. I beg your pardon.
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Nothing there to the effect a review is only based on facts. Facts are not mentioned at all in fact. There are..however..several implications to a review being opinion based.
see # 21..
btw..you link doesn't work
next victim !
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Pronunciation:
ri-'vyüFunction: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /
also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again2 : to examine or study again; especially : to reexamine judicially
3 : to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a : to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study> b : to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5 : to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1 : to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
2 : to write reviews
- re·view·able
ri-'vyü-&-b&l/ adjectivedoensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
While I respect your thoughts and opinions, I do have to agree with the others that this review is quite one-sided. It is quite ok, as I have seen plenty of reviews to the other extreme, and even seen the "Anti-review" garbage that has been posted. With all that in mind, I appreciate your willingness to put yourself "on the line" for this game, however it is possible to be a bit more realistic.
I score with 10 being the best and 1 being the worst.
Chacter models / creation ~ 9 6
You even admitted the limited hairstyles, and the characters can look the same in a lot of respects. First thing though is the character creation itself. It lags. The character screens shouldn't lag at all. This is the first thing everyone sees when they start the game, and sometimes it lags pretty bad, no matter what system you have. Doesn't give a very good impression if you're lagging while creating your first character. It has been remedied a good amount, but just not enough IMO. 4 hairstyles and 4 faces that all look nearly exactly the same. If you're going to give me 4 different faces, make them completely different. Like one with tattoos, and one with piercings, and one with freckles, and etc. Give me scars and moles, make them different, really different.
Starting Areas ~ 9 7
You already mentioned the learning curve in getting to know the areas. I also want to mention that in some cases quests seem to jump a level or two from one to another. This gives the impression of grinding early in the game. If I have to level before completing my next quest, then that is poor planning. While I agree that some areas are better than others, it seems to me that with only 3 starting areas they should have had all 3 done to level 10 by launch ready or not. It just gives a very poor impression when someone is struggling within their own starting town.
Game Performance ~ 8 6
This really doesn't need my comments. Everyone knows about performance issues in the game. It has improved a hundred fold since launch, but in my opinion, still has a ways to go yet.
Combat ~ 10 9
I pretty much agree with you here. Maybe a little more training in this regard would help, as I am a veteran of MMO's since UO. I can see where a lot of people would be confused early on about what to do when. Another learning curve that really does not have to exist, as combat does get a lot more complicated later on, and some help in this regard early on would help. The disgusting UI doesn't help much, but I understand why it exists as it is almost identical to WoW's. A better UI is really needed badly.
Crafting ~ 8 8
I agree completely. A lot of people won't really realize the importance of the crafting until later and there are higher level crafters. The crafters will make the world, and after some player organized places are in place, it will really shine. There really does need to be a better tutorial as the one in game is terrible and will frustrate a lot of people right off the bat.
Diplomacy ~ 9 9
Diplomacy is brilliant, and I really hope it garners a better role in the game. It really takes SEVERAL levels of it to really show its potential and a lot of people usually quit by then. Also, maybe more variations in use would help. I do like the push to have players work together to change the world they "live" in.
Graphics ~ 10 9
I wouldn't say fantastic, but it is of the better tier of what's out there. There are places I have been that absolutely make my jaw drop in awe. Animations still need some help, but with the improvements in performance, that should subside.
Community ~ 10 8
I really had to think about this as the community is its best asset and worst enemy at the same time. Most everyone in game is very helpful, nice, and quite vocal at times.
I guess it just comes from feelings of being let down over and over again. Defending this game is fine, but to call names and call people WoW carebears is just not needed. The community should welcome all subscribers with open arms, and just play. If they have complaints, let them complain. They have the right to view their opinion of what they like and don't like. While someone who just doesn't like the gameplay will probably leave anyways, those that are "on the fence" will definitely be turned off with insults, even if they aren't directed to them. This is a community (grouping) game foremost so group with them, and help them to overcome their doubts, and you will build a greater community overall. That is what this game is about, COMMUNITY.
This game is so big..and so deep..I could almost go on forever. It is a fantastic experience for those players who value the journey more than the destination. Its a great game for those that appreciate the fact that the sweet aint so sweet without some bitter.
Overall score is a very solid ~ 9 7.75
I think this score will be a 10 a year from now. I think Vanguard is going to be a major success. I would predict over 500k in subs a year from now ...with over a million subs within two years. I think this may even be conservative. Six months from now...once the remaining few bugs are ironed out...people will be coming to Vanguard to play in droves. I'm enduring a few the bugs now so that I will be set up real nice when this game explodes in population. I have no doubt at all it will. Its infamous status now is actualy helping things. Vanguard is nearly a household name as it is.
I do believe you are overstating it a bit. It will get better, and more people will come. I guess time will tell. For now, it still needs a lot of work to even get to the 250,000 subscribers needed to make it successful. This game will never be a "starter MMO" for 90% of consumers, and for a lot will probably never satisfy. If someone is just looking for a "solo game in a MMO package" this will never be it.
Vanguard is the game that sucks less than the rest !
Not a very good advertisement.
Flamers ..flame on.
Jackdog....Godpuppet and all you other Vanguard trolls...have a blast and pick apart my review.
I rest my case
"Granted thinking for yourself could be considered a timesink of shorter or longer duration depending on how smart..or how dumb you are."
Of course its one sided !! It my sided !!
What other side would you want ? Should I include the side from the guy accross the street? How about the mail mans perspective ? Maybe the UPS guy has a side he would like me to represent ?!
Yes ..it IS one sided ! It's MY sided !
That's why It's MY REVIEW...duh..good grief yall !
Though I respect your side....it's obviously one sided
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"At the very least, doing the wet towel snap should disconnect the nerves of the spinal column, causing total paralysis, thus enabling you to skin the bastard alive."
Once you understand the basic concept of a review and what facts are then you can base your opinions in fact and thus turn your "review" into a actual review.
Have a good day and don;'t bother flaming me as i hardly come to this site but i got sick of people praising a obviously flawed game that really should not have been put out till later this year, sadly this was both Sigil's fault for borrowing money and Sony for being the POS company they are.
3 years of MMO experiance...heh,
try having 10+ years son, then we can talk now granted that doesn't make me a better person or a better gamer just someone who's been around longer in the MMO world to know when you can't polish a turd. I appreciate that you like the game and thats your OPINION but the game is just in a horrid state (FACT)
mull this over, respond i won't read it i'm going back to playing one of the several CB's i'm in.
I fear for your son.
started out interesting, then I saw all the 10s ..
meh, stopped reading, why bother,
I'll read something that gives me some hope of learning something new,
I wish all the best to VSoH, I hope that they fix it all but I'll tell you this, pretending that a whole bunch of problems do not exist is scarier than admitting to them
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Pronunciation:
ri-'vyüFunction: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /
also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again2 : to examine or study again; especially : to reexamine judicially
3 : to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a : to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study> b : to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5 : to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1 : to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
2 : to write reviews
- re·view·able
ri-'vyü-&-b&l/ adjectivedoensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
synonyms CRITICAL, HYPERCRITICAL, FAULTFINDING, CAPTIOUS, CARPING, CENSORIOUS mean inclined to look for and point out faults and defects. CRITICAL may also imply an effort to see a thing clearly and truly in order to judge it fairly
Seriously you admit you did not do this. You admit your bias of the game has effected your scores. How many more words do we need to look up?
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Pronunciation:
ri-'vyüFunction: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /
also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again2 : to examine or study again; especially : to reexamine judicially
3 : to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a : to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study> b : to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5 : to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1 : to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
2 : to write reviews
- re·view·able
ri-'vyü-&-b&l/ adjectivedoensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
synonyms CRITICAL, HYPERCRITICAL, FAULTFINDING, CAPTIOUS, CARPING, CENSORIOUS mean inclined to look for and point out faults and defects. CRITICAL may also imply an effort to see a thing clearly and truly in order to judge it fairly
Seriously you admit you did not do this. You admit your bias of the game has effected your scores. How many more words do we need to look up?
I have given you two definitions of the word reviews and one on the word review. Your argument was that a review must be statement of fact. My arguement is that a review is a statement of opinion. All these definitions support my arguement. I was critcial. I was also reviewed from the perspective that I see.
I still stick to my review. Of course the numbers are high. If I felt the need to give the game lower numbers it is unlikely that I would be playing Vanguard.
Now..if I had said..." A Professional Unbiased Review of Vanguard "...many of yall would have room to argue. I did not. I gave a review that is realistic to ME . You many choose to agree...or not agree...that is your right.
In response to Mr. Greenhell poster...you have lost this debate on the definition of a review. If I need to explain any further than it is obvious that you will not understand the answer anyways.
Vanguard is a great game. Me and 10 's of thousands of people believe this. Many do not come to these boards simply because ..well...they suck...packed full of kiddies and trolls.
Vanguard is going to have over 500k in subs within a year and over a million subs in over 2 years. Know it..mark it..believe it.
Well ...duh !!!
All reviews are baised ones OPINION ....same review with a more negative bias would turn out with equally biased negative results. That statement is completely irrational...
of course my review is biased high ! duh! because I really like the game ! Would it makes sense to give it a low score and then state that I really like the game? nooooo.......moron
hey take it easy, im playing the game my self and enjoy it alot but if your gonna state it as "realistic review" then try to leave the favoritism out. IT is a realistic review from the poster's perspective. Of course it will be pro becuase he likes it, if he wouldnt havel iked it, it would of been against the game. If you dont have an opinion then its not a review but rather list of facts. If its a review, it has to be either pro or against the game in general or specific parts of the game.I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Thanks for help proving my little debate here with ya...taken from the link YOU provided.
One entry found for review.
Pronunciation:
ri-'vyüFunction: verb
Etymology: in sense 1 of verbt., from re- + view; in other senses, from 1review
transitive verb
1 /
also 'rE-"vyü/ : to view or see again2 : to examine or study again; especially : to reexamine judicially
3 : to look back on : take a retrospective view of <review the past>
4 a : to go over or examine critically or deliberately <reviewed the results of the study> b : to give a critical evaluation of <review a novel>
5 : to hold a review of <review troops>
intransitive verb
1 : to study material again : make a review <review for a test>
2 : to write reviews
- re·view·able
ri-'vyü-&-b&l/ adjectivedoensn't makes sense. Review ..singular refers to re-examin. try looking at " reviews "
still proves my case either way though..nothing in here stating a review is NOT an opinion.
So you are saying you critically evaluated VG? Your over inflated scores sure dont prove that. Do we now need to look up that word as well? OK lets cut through all the crap and find the definition that really fits..
synonyms CRITICAL, HYPERCRITICAL, FAULTFINDING, CAPTIOUS, CARPING, CENSORIOUS mean inclined to look for and point out faults and defects. CRITICAL may also imply an effort to see a thing clearly and truly in order to judge it fairly
Seriously you admit you did not do this. You admit your bias of the game has effected your scores. How many more words do we need to look up?
I dont know how you can form an opinion without being biased one way or another. If you know nothing about an object you are supposed to review then you cannot make a fair judgement, you MUST examine it. During examination, you are gonna feel positively or negatively, or maybe indifferent, but you are gonna be biased one way or another. So you cant realy make a judgement without having a feeling one way or the other.What I believe is meant with the words "TO SEE THINGS CLEARLY" is without unreasonable bias for or against the game. Why unreasonable? Becuase if I do like the game, I am already a bit biased as u say towards it. Just as you would be biased against it if you DONT like the game. This predisposition is reasonable in my view becuase you will NOT go out of your way to prove your point one way or another, you are not gonna lie or cheat about it. What would unreasonable bias be? A mother would be unreasonably biased towards her son, she would lie and cheat and do anything for her child, hence you cant realy trust her opinion on her son. In this case, Brad, Sigil, SOE or anyone financialy linked to the game would be unreasonably biased towards it. Since he is not one of them (are ya?), his opinion is as much biased towards the game as yours against. His facts are not distorted and opinions are reasonable.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
You don't see a problem with a game that will require someone to pay $1500 for a CPU a year from now to run smoothly? That's a joke man. No, I don't expect 60 FPS, but 15-25 FPS for a decent machine (what you have) running on performance setting is ridiculous. I'd consider buying the game if I didn't know that it won't run on my PC and there's no way I'm upgrading just to play it.
By the way, your experience with MMO's is pretty light, far from moderate I would say. Horizons and Guild Wars are the not the greatest games to be comparing too. Not saying you have to have played WoW, but something a little more meaty than Horizons and Guild Wars. I'll admit I don't know a lot about Horizons, but from reviews I've read It's not too impressive. And I know I may get a few nasty comments, but personally I don't even consider Guild Wars an MMO. It's more along the lines an of OLRPG, similar to say a Diablo II.
Ok, let me give this a crack - I am going to be brutally honest, and I will admitt up front I'm basically a VG fanboy...
Character Models/Creation - 8 - Very good, similar to SWG wich had great character creation. Classes feel different and that is a big plus. Many Class/Race Combos to choose from.
Starting Areas - MMO Vet - 8 / MMO Nub - 4 - The starting areas are great if you know your way around MMO's because it throws you into the game rather quick. They suck if your an MMO Nub for the same reason - being thrown into the game...There REALLY should be some type of Tutorial area (Everquest 2's was outstanding - the ship/starter island).
Game Performance - 6 -
A) Like the op, I would have put it 2 notches down during beta 5 (I played since beta 2 when it was almost unplayable). This score is rising fast and I could give it an 8 in a month or so if they keep improving performance. I don't mind it much, but I'm on a high end rig (C2D E6600, 2GB DDR2 800, 8800GTX @ 1440x900). People playing on older hardware will suffer (even now, though it's much better) They definetly will have to dumb down the graphics, wich is a huge bummer (See Graphics)
Combat - Solo 6 - Group 8 - Solo is kinda of repetative for me (I play mostly casters). Here is a synopsis - Big Nuke, Slow, Instant Nuke, Big Nuke, Slow, rinse & repeat...Kinda boring yeah? Group - More fun, more variety, good group dynamics in relation to combat.
Crafting - NA - I'm an adventurer not a damn crafter :P I hear both good and bad about it though, and as such, I won't give it a score...
Diplomacy - NA - See Above, except I have heard it's a great idea, but with too many bugs at this point.
Graphics - 4 / 9 - 4 - on low end machines with everything down to the lowest, the game looks like EQ1 (or worse). I just don't see the desire to play a game that looks like that. 9 - On High/Ultra high on a fast machine, the graphics are simply amazing (check that draw distance!!!)
Community - 7 - Most people in the game are decent, but many player simply don't know how to play thier class and or are rude at times. For some reason, in this game Tanks are main offenders (especially in Dungeon situations...A level 18 tank should be able to hold aggro for a group of 16/17's (assuming they are playing their roles correctly)). It's not like it can't be done, I've also been with some really good tanks in dungeons, they just seem to be too few and far between. Thank god we have 2 tanks leveling up in our guild ATM...
Overall Score - AND I HATE TO DO THIS - 6.5 or 7 - There was not category for "Gameplay" for wich I would have given the game a 9 or 10...I am extremely addicted at this point. The most fun I've had in a game since EQ1. That said, there are still to many flaws to rate it higher. I think these issues can and will be addressed in the future, and I would venture to guess in 6 months I'd probably be able to give the game an 8.5 or 9, but I just can't do that at this point...
The problem is that when he states his review as being realistic, he is implying that anyone who gives a review that does not match his as being unrealistic. That smacks of arrogance and pig headedness.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I made no such implication. You infered that. I can not help what goes on in your own mind.
When I gave a " realistic" review...I did just that...from my perspective as all reviews are done from their perspective. Perspective based on past experience and opinion.
You point out anywhere in my review that indicates that if someone's opinion differs from mine ..it is unrealistic and I'll give you a cookie.
You attempting to point out a " problem" that is not there smacks of arrogance and pig headeness. I think you are simply projecting your own personal issues onto me.
I think Vanguard is a great game. I think much of that is because I spent the last 3 years playing Horizons...particularly in regards to graphics.
So I love the game Vanuard...big deal. I think its a great game and gave it high scores to reflect that...properly noting faults, but awknowleging that those faults don't really bother me that much.
The problem with the people in these forums is THEY can not handle a difference in opinion. These forums are so full of people that simply love to be negative. The world is like that for the most part. Putting other people down and their opinions down puts them in a position of supiority..in their own minds at least. At times people agree with them which helps them feel validated. It's human nature really..not a particularly bad thing..I'm guilty of it myself...though I try to avoid it. Self awareness is the key. When I do it..I know I'm doing it....many others do not have this self awareness...they just hate and hate without ever really thinking about ...why? Then they stand there ..scratching their heads wondering why they are so miserable and nobody likes them.
Lol, this review is far from being realistic. If you like the combat really, try a free Korean-MMORPG, they are the same and are free.
Don't waste your money on Vanguard
if the 'reviewer' doesn't mind bugs and enjoy the game anyway, he can write a 'realistic' review without bugs as obstacle to the final rating but in 'objective' review he'd HAVE to lower the rates cause of bugs
so ya, giving a perfect score to unfinished game is realistic and most of all subjective, but it's not objective, is it?
I've read a lot of bashing of VG, I feel kinda sorry for the game, but all those bashing reviews, anti-reviews etc. provides much more information for me than this kind of fan review, cause if a game is unfinished and has so many bugs, and especially when it's making people to hate it so much like I've read in some of the reviews from bigger gaming sites (f.e. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=158416) , there MUST be something wrong with the game and it surely doesn't deserve such high rate
I don't know if VG really sux so bad as majority of people I saw are saying, but all those negative things I've read about are enough of a reason for me to not play it and not to take seriously a fan review like this one, cause there's the question I'm asking myself now: "Why VG recieved SO MANY bad reviews and games like WOW (haven't played it either) or LOTRO or ... recieved so many good reviews? Why reviewers didn't bash games like DAoC, but they are bashing VG?" I guess it's cause of the fact that VG really isn't THAT good as you claim in your review
if you like to pay for buggy and unfinished game with thinking that 'one day I'm sure they'll finish it' it's your decision of course, but I know that I won't pay for such defective product
The game that sucks less than the rest !
Thamoris,
Holy crap, just by reading your posts, I guessed to myself, "This guy must be from Texas!"
All hat, no cattle!
Uhm, that's all. No need to respond, just thought it was funny how right my shot in the dark turned out to be.
lol
Yes..I am currently ..and proudly living in the fine state of Texas. I occasionaly have to endure the typical southern white trash type comments...though all that does is define such posters just as ignorant as your typical southern white trash. I have however lived all over the US and traveled to several other countries. Likely I'll die in Texas though..the longer I live here..the more I appreciate its independant..kiss my ass ...culture.
See..that is the whole point. It IS realistic...from my perspective. I have been truely amazed at much of what Sigil has done with Vanguard !
Nobody can tell me what MY reality is...see. If I think something deserves a 10 ...then I give it a 10 ! Why does everyone seem to think that their reality has to be my reality ? That if their my reality differs from their reality it is somehow wrong ? It is this egotistical approach to life that causes so much of this world to hate Americans. So many in our country think that because its OUR way ..it must be the RIght way. In truth..I think there is no right or worng way...there is not realistic or unrealistic reviews....there is only what each person precieves as right and wrong..realistic and unrealistic. The perceptions will be as varied as there are people on this earth.