Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
SOE was involved in the financing and made the decision to release Vanguard in an incomplete form. Brad had to release Vanguard because of lack of funding. It's perfectly reasonable to hold SOE equally accountable for the poor condition of Vanguard. SOE knew the game wasn't polished enough to charge for, yet they did so anyways, marketing the game in a positive light. That is fraud.
W-R-O-N-G Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh (buzzer goes off)
Vanguard being release way too early was purely Brad's idea as well as the rest of the Sigil's development crew. They plcaed it out on the market because they had completely ran out of money and they never had any other viable options (right from Brad's mouth).
SOE in no way whatsoever had any bearing on the release of the game. They have no authority on the release of a game that is owned by Sigil. That was Sigil 100%. Don't put the blame on SOE with that one either.
WRONG
It's a fact that SOE employees worked on the project. They knew what kind of condition the game was in before release. SOE may be greedy and corrupt, but they are not naive enough to associate their brand name with a product without knowing what kind of condition it is in. SOE does underestimate us gamers as was the case with SWG and now appears to be the case with Vanguard, but they were fully aware that Vanguard was not ready for release and charging for an incomplete game while marketing it as ready is fraudulent. SOE deserves equal blame.
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
Well Enigma, one thing you should know is that swede is convinced your me, and that I'm an alt you made.
Logic isn't always prevalent on forums, unfortunately.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
Well Enigma, one thing you should know is that swede is convinced your me, and that I'm an alt you made.
Logic isn't always prevalent on forums, unfortunately.
Our identity has been compromised!!!! lol.
If he thinks you're me, it doesnt take much to prove it. As a former staff member here I had to use my real name under my info and I never really bothered to change it and I assume you have yours.
But I guess if he thinks we're one in the same I know some pretty crazy games we can pull on him. Mwehahahahah
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I have to wonder where these people get all this official info on who does what and made what decidions. I for one haven't seen a single press release regarding any of this info on who made what decisions but maybe all of you insiders might have.
Also when are all you 'Pros' going to make an mmo? I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to play it!
I have to wonder where these people get all this official info on who does what and made what decidions. I for one haven't seen a single press release regarding any of this info on who made what decisions but maybe all of you insiders might have. Also when are all you 'Pros' going to make an mmo? I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to play it!
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does
However, to answer your question.
Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes.
However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people.
1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks"
2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game.
3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game.
4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!"
Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Originally posted by Enigma Originally posted by DMEnoc I have to wonder where these people get all this official info on who does what and made what decidions. I for one haven't seen a single press release regarding any of this info on who made what decisions but maybe all of you insiders might have. Also when are all you 'Pros' going to make an mmo? I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to play it!
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does However, to answer your question. Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes. However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people. 1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks" 2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game. 3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game. 4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!" Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
I wasn't responding to you, I do know the diff. between a publisher and developer. My post was purely a load of sarcasm directed at people claiming to know the inner workings of these two companies and calling the amatuers.
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
I believe you have a VG account....however this gave me pause:
Lvl 13 Warrior/0 Diplomacy/0 crafter Ogre Warrior
Ogres are mobs you kill in VG...did you mis speak and mean half giant?
SOE was involved in the financing and made the decision to release Vanguard in an incomplete form. Brad had to release Vanguard because of lack of funding. It's perfectly reasonable to hold SOE equally accountable for the poor condition of Vanguard. SOE knew the game wasn't polished enough to charge for, yet they did so anyways, marketing the game in a positive light. That is fraud.
Blame SOE all you want but if it wasn't for them this game probably never would have been released at all. They bailed Sigil out when Microsoft dropped them like a hot potato. I don't blame SOE one bit for cutting their losses. The blame for the state of this game rests soley on the shoulders of Sigil. Five years in development and a $40 million dollar budget resulted in what we have here. Somebody mismanaged a helluva lot of time and money. SOE may be guilty of a lot of things but not this. This is all Brad's and Sigil's mess. As much as I dislike SOE it's not fair to blame them for this.
I have to wonder where these people get all this official info on who does what and made what decidions. I for one haven't seen a single press release regarding any of this info on who made what decisions but maybe all of you insiders might have.
Also when are all you 'Pros' going to make an mmo? I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to play it!
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does
However, to answer your question.
Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes.
However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people.
1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks"
2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game.
3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game.
4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!"
Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
I wasn't responding to you, I do know the diff. between a publisher and developer. My post was purely a load of sarcasm directed at people claiming to know the inner workings of these two companies and calling the amatuers.
I know I was just responding to your post. Sorry if it sounded like an attack of sorts. My apologies. Sometimes threads can get confusing
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Nooo SOE are the devil though right man BTW En1gma, what level did you get to? Just wondering. Oh what race and class too?
Come on AA do you actually believe enigma ran out and bought vanguard for his wife and himself , he was one of the first people bashing vanguard the day the NDA was llifted . And if he did it makes me warm and happy inside lol
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
I believe you have a VG account....however this gave me pause:
Lvl 13 Warrior/0 Diplomacy/0 crafter Ogre Warrior
Ogres are mobs you kill in VG...did you mis speak and mean half giant?
No ...it was ogres (or Orcs) ...I didnt play it that long to find out lol Came from the Kojan Continent and is about 7 feet tall full of msucles with white pain on his face
Your quest line was pushing back the invaders from your homeland (Mortoks I believe)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
SOE was involved in the financing and made the decision to release Vanguard in an incomplete form. Brad had to release Vanguard because of lack of funding. It's perfectly reasonable to hold SOE equally accountable for the poor condition of Vanguard. SOE knew the game wasn't polished enough to charge for, yet they did so anyways, marketing the game in a positive light. That is fraud.
But the counter arguement to that is thatm without SOE, There wouldn't even be a Vanguard, and if it was up to Microsoft, the game would have already gone live last summer or so.
In what capacity is SOE involved in Vanguard? 1. They provided a financial base in which Sigil could develope their code onto DVDs and are the catalyst of production, shipping, and product handling to the merchants. 2. They host Vanguard's official forums (which is Website feedback and technical help) and consequently, those forums are moderated by SOE Moderators. 3. They provided a catalyst in which Sigil could launch their game (i.e., the Sony Launchpad)
But I read somewhere that SOE DEVELOPERS were sent into Sigil to help them finish the game. Is that wrong info?I also remember reading that as well.
Again, this is Brad's ineptitude and mismanagement. They ran out of money, and if it hadn't been for SOE lending assistance, the game might not have even hit shelves.
Yup i recall reading this from several different sites.
SOE geta lot of flack..some justified some not you only have to look at how good a game EQ2 is to see they can and most certainly do make great games.
For me the sooner Sigil is absorbed into SOE the better..hopefully then it can reach its full potential
It's pretty simple. The fans of VG need a scapegoat. I suppose it's difficult to fathom that their great and wonderful Brad is not that great and wonderful. The truth is, he's a dinosaur trying to relive his old EQ days. Too bad no one told him that the MMO market has become significantly competitive since then.
The only blame SOE gets is funding Brad, who clearly has no ability to run and manage a company.
SOE was involved in the financing and made the decision to release Vanguard in an incomplete form. Brad had to release Vanguard because of lack of funding. It's perfectly reasonable to hold SOE equally accountable for the poor condition of Vanguard. SOE knew the game wasn't polished enough to charge for, yet they did so anyways, marketing the game in a positive light. That is fraud.
QFE! The fact is, If SOE wasn't involved with the game at all, It could be buggy , But people would bitc.h less, Since SOE is there, It's fun to blame SOE lol.
The op is good and well but no one really knows what type of marraige Sigil got going on with SOE. They can say whatever they want but no matter what, no one really knows for sure. Not unless you're with them. I know many people believe certain things but come now, you're talking about SOE and if you've dealt with them in the past you know exactly what they're capable of. Personally, I see it like it is. The bottom line is SOE is the one getting paid here and that's all that really matters. You make a station access account in order to play VG and who controls that? SOE. You make your payments to SOE. You give your credit card numbers to SOE. Therefore, since they're getting all the money from us players then they're most likely running this puppy. The almighty dollar is what this is all about and who're you paying for the right to play VG? In the end this is all that matters, who you're paying. The folks at Sigil may of made the game but SOE is the big dog in this yard. They're the ones making the decisions since it's their bucks. Unfortunately anyway. You're kidding yourself if you think SOE has nothing to do with this game. Yeah, right. They're going to finance a game and not have any say in it. Like the post below me says, SOE's stickers are everywhere in VG. It's a wonder they're not inside the game itself.
I wouldn't call it a marriage its more of S&M arrangement complete with rubber suit and a ball-gag - guess who holds the leash ?
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Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Proof one
img341.imageshack.us/my.php
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
W-R-O-N-G Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh (buzzer goes off)
Vanguard being release way too early was purely Brad's idea as well as the rest of the Sigil's development crew. They plcaed it out on the market because they had completely ran out of money and they never had any other viable options (right from Brad's mouth).
SOE in no way whatsoever had any bearing on the release of the game. They have no authority on the release of a game that is owned by Sigil. That was Sigil 100%. Don't put the blame on SOE with that one either.
WRONG
It's a fact that SOE employees worked on the project. They knew what kind of condition the game was in before release. SOE may be greedy and corrupt, but they are not naive enough to associate their brand name with a product without knowing what kind of condition it is in. SOE does underestimate us gamers as was the case with SWG and now appears to be the case with Vanguard, but they were fully aware that Vanguard was not ready for release and charging for an incomplete game while marketing it as ready is fraudulent. SOE deserves equal blame.
Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Proof one
img341.imageshack.us/my.php
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
Well Enigma, one thing you should know is that swede is convinced your me, and that I'm an alt you made.Logic isn't always prevalent on forums, unfortunately.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Swede if you know me you would know I wouldnt lie over stupid things like that. But Im sure you need proof so here:
Proof one
img341.imageshack.us/my.php
Pretty sad when people have to resort to proof when posting they're opinions. But yes, I said I hated it in beta and I gave it another chance as well as my wife. Obviously, we still didnt like it
Also, to the last poster. Just because I do not like a game does not mean I "am lying out of my ass." Come on now. Let's have a mature conversation here.
Well Enigma, one thing you should know is that swede is convinced your me, and that I'm an alt you made.Logic isn't always prevalent on forums, unfortunately.
Our identity has been compromised!!!! lol.
If he thinks you're me, it doesnt take much to prove it. As a former staff member here I had to use my real name under my info and I never really bothered to change it and I assume you have yours.
But I guess if he thinks we're one in the same I know some pretty crazy games we can pull on him. Mwehahahahah
..........wait........isn't Cymdai "Enigma" spelled backwards?
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I have to wonder where these people get all this official info on who does what and made what decidions. I for one haven't seen a single press release regarding any of this info on who made what decisions but maybe all of you insiders might have.
Also when are all you 'Pros' going to make an mmo? I'm sure it'll be great and I can't wait to play it!
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does
However, to answer your question.
Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes.
However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people.
1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks"
2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game.
3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game.
4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!"
Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does
However, to answer your question.
Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes.
However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people.
1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks"
2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game.
3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game.
4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!"
Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
I wasn't responding to you, I do know the diff. between a publisher and developer. My post was purely a load of sarcasm directed at people claiming to know the inner workings of these two companies and calling the amatuers.
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
I believe you have a VG account....however this gave me pause:
Lvl 13 Warrior/0 Diplomacy/0 crafter Ogre Warrior
Ogres are mobs you kill in VG...did you mis speak and mean half giant?
However, a non professional MMORPG developer knows the difference between a Publisher and a Developer. That's what this thread was originally about until we had some topic hijackers and I somehow had to "prove" I played this game even though I was explaining that SOE does not run Vanguard. Sigil does
However, to answer your question.
Sometimes it is much easier for a 3rd party person to accurately view a game whereas the company who developed the game does not have this luxury. It is similiar to a proofreader or an editor of sorts. You can write one helluva paper but it takes someone else reading it to spot the mistakes.
However, Vanguard like every other MMO that has come into existance you have four types of people.
1. Those who adamantly hate this game and loves to see the fanboys get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard sucks"
2. Those who played the game and did not like it. They told people about it because they feel maybe if they save someone 50 bucks until they ironed out the kinks it would be worth the trouble but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do like this game.
3. Those who do like the game they paid for. They tell people about it because they feel the money is worth it and the experience of discovering Vanguard is well worth the fifty bucks; but, at the same time, they respect other people's decision that others do not like this game.
4. Those who adamantly love this game and loves to see the haters get a brain hemmorage whenever they say "Vanguard Rocks!"
Its been like that since the first MMO forum was created and sadly, it'll be like that for a VERY long time regardless of the game.
I wasn't responding to you, I do know the diff. between a publisher and developer. My post was purely a load of sarcasm directed at people claiming to know the inner workings of these two companies and calling the amatuers.
I know I was just responding to your post. Sorry if it sounded like an attack of sorts. My apologies. Sometimes threads can get confusingPeople who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
normally I like enigma, but I too have to wonder about this, since one of the races he lists as playing isnt even a playable race in VG
lol
did you not see the screenshots proving my account with Vanguard .....like, the next comment down from Swede2?
.... and what race, pray tell, did I mention that one cannot play?
I believe you have a VG account....however this gave me pause:
Lvl 13 Warrior/0 Diplomacy/0 crafter Ogre Warrior
Ogres are mobs you kill in VG...did you mis speak and mean half giant?
No ...it was ogres (or Orcs) ...I didnt play it that long to find out lol Came from the Kojan Continent and is about 7 feet tall full of msucles with white pain on his face
Your quest line was pushing back the invaders from your homeland (Mortoks I believe)
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
But I read somewhere that SOE DEVELOPERS were sent into Sigil to help them finish the game. Is that wrong info?I also remember reading that as well.
Again, this is Brad's ineptitude and mismanagement. They ran out of money, and if it hadn't been for SOE lending assistance, the game might not have even hit shelves.
Yup i recall reading this from several different sites.
SOE geta lot of flack..some justified some not you only have to look at how good a game EQ2 is to see they can and most certainly do make great games.
For me the sooner Sigil is absorbed into SOE the better..hopefully then it can reach its full potential
The only blame SOE gets is funding Brad, who clearly has no ability to run and manage a company.
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