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Animal Rights Wackos: Kill The Polar Bear!

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457
    Originally posted by Nasica 



          

    Intestinal tract -  We have the same intestinal tract ration as all herbivores







    Righto! although we only have one stomach and can burp and puke.

    I take it you haven't had a lot of experience with herbivores?

     

    Humans are omnivores. There isn't any escaping this. It's a biological classification that appplies to the species called man. It means our bodies have evolved to eat a mixed diet of both animal matter and plant matter.

    You may well be able to survive on just one or the other, but your body has evolved to work best on a combination of both. You aren't a herbivore. As an omnivore your body shares many similarities with a herbivore, but you will never be as well suited to living off of plants alone as a herbivore.

    Enjoying steak doesn't make you a carnivore or an omnivore. Being a human does.

     You could be the strictest vegan from birth to death and you would still be an omnivore.

     

     

    As an animal, I believe in the rights of other animals. Like many other animals I believe it is right for me to feed on other animals and destroy those that compete with me. I also believe it is right to protect my own kind over others. I put mankind first, not because mankind is spiritually more important before god, but because it is my animal nature to do so.

  • KyorutoKyoruto Member Posts: 794
    Originally posted by Nasica



    Saliva - Carnivores have acidic saliva, herbivores have alkeline (and humans have alkeline)



    Shape of Intestines - Carn. - smooth like a pipe to better digest meat, herba- containing lots of pockets to allow plants to pass slowely for maximum nutritional absorbtion, characteristics shared by the human intestines



    Fibre - Carnivores dont use fibre, because of there smooth intestinal tract, herbivores do... have you had your bran today ?



    Cholesterol - Carn - plays a vital and positive part of diet, Herba - Manufacture there own cholesterol, no plant life contains cholesterol.



    Claws - Carn - to subduye pray, herba - no need to subdue pray. We dont have claws :P




    Remember people just because you like your rump steak medium rare, doesnt mean you are a carnivore or a omnivore. Desires =/= needs.





    We can't digest fiber. The only thing it does is line our poo so its not liquid. Haven't you heard the saying "A healthy dose of fiber gives healthy poo." Or whatever it may be.



    Thats cause we're biologically ineferrior to every animal on the planet. This is been proven because of our need for tools.



    On the teeth matter. I don't know about your teeth but I know mine can pierce flesh no problem. We have a stronger biting force then Herba's and a weaker one then carna. Thats why we're omnivores We weren't made to take out lions only the weaker animals. We're like the WoW of the animal kingdom. Don't specialize in one thing but can do everything pretty well.

    Siehst du mich
    Erkennst du mich
    Ganz tief in meinem Herz
    ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
    Ich suche dich
    Ich sehne mich
    nach dem was ich geliebt hab
    doch ich find es nicht

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Animals that die, get reincarnated. Their death allows them to cash in their enlightenment score and get reincarnated further round the transcendaental wheel.

     

    Unfortunatly that Hindu wheel places humankind higher than the other animals before the eyes of god.

    Funny how things invented by man always place man at the top. Conceited even. Top of the food chain. Top of the enlightenment chain.

    The food chain is a chain. The transcendetal wheel, a wheel.  The way I see it, there isn't a top. 

     

    Man aren't the only omnivores on the planet. We're not the only species that can choose. And every carnivore can choose starvation over a life time of killing.

    We have a place in nature. A role to play. A role which if ignored threatens the balance of all life. If we don't eat meat, the chain is broken, the wheel ceases to spin. We aren't in control of nature, I don't subscribe to this conceit. Nature controls us. 

  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861

    If a person really believes in reincarnation it seems to me he should have no problem at all with killing animals.  Because he would know that the spirit that was inhabiting that animal body will just go on to be reborn again.

    In fact, you might be doing the spirit a favor depending on what sort of animal it was reincarnated as.  Commuting it's sentence sort of.

    For example; if I was reincarnated as a pig and knew that when I died I'd get another roll of the dice and probably come back as something else...well heck, I'd go up to the farmer and beg him to eat me.

    "Eat me <oink>, please just eat me and get it over with, <oink oink>."

  • KurushKurush Member Posts: 1,303
    Originally posted by baff


    Animals that die, get reincarnated. Their death allows them to cash in their enlightenment score and get reincarnated further round the transcendaental wheel.
     
    Unfortunatly that Hindu wheel places humankind higher than the other animals before the eyes of god.
    Funny how things invented by man always place man at the top. Conceited even. Top of the food chain. Top of the enlightenment chain.
    The food chain is a chain. The transcendetal wheel, a wheel.  The way I see it, there isn't a top. 
     
    Man aren't the only omnivores on the planet. We're not the only species that can choose. And every carnivore can choose starvation over a life time of killing.
    We have a place in nature. A role to play. A role which if ignored threatens the balance of all life. If we don't eat meat, the chain is broken, the wheel ceases to spin. We aren't in control of nature, I don't subscribe to this conceit. Nature controls us. 
    Thanks, mate.  I never felt better about going out to get a burger.
  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267
    Originally posted by Kyoruto

    We can't digest fiber. The only thing it does is line our poo so its not liquid. Haven't you heard the saying "A healthy dose of fiber gives healthy poo." Or whatever it may be.



    Thats cause we're biologically ineferrior to every animal on the planet. This is been proven because of our need for tools.



    On the teeth matter. I don't know about your teeth but I know mine can pierce flesh no problem. We have a stronger biting force then Herba's and a weaker one then carna. Thats why we're omnivores We weren't made to take out lions only the weaker animals. We're like the WoW of the animal kingdom. Don't specialize in one thing but can do everything pretty well.

    I doubt you could go up to a cow and tear its flesh using only your mouth. Even if you could puncture it, you would have a hell of a time trying to eat enough of the cow satisfy your hunger. You can only tear flesh if it's bite-size after it's been cooked and cut up using your steak knife...



    If the thought of eating out of a dead cow on the ground along with all it's blood and guts seems gross then maybe you aren't meant to eat meat. You eat meat when it's been cooked, seasoned, and saucey....otherwise it's not very yummy.

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  • KyorutoKyoruto Member Posts: 794
    Originally posted by AlexAmore

    Originally posted by Kyoruto

    We can't digest fiber. The only thing it does is line our poo so its not liquid. Haven't you heard the saying "A healthy dose of fiber gives healthy poo." Or whatever it may be.



    Thats cause we're biologically ineferrior to every animal on the planet. This is been proven because of our need for tools.



    On the teeth matter. I don't know about your teeth but I know mine can pierce flesh no problem. We have a stronger biting force then Herba's and a weaker one then carna. Thats why we're omnivores We weren't made to take out lions only the weaker animals. We're like the WoW of the animal kingdom. Don't specialize in one thing but can do everything pretty well.

    I doubt you could go up to a cow and tear its flesh using only your mouth. Even if you could puncture it, you would have a hell of a time trying to eat enough of the cow satisfy your hunger. You can only tear flesh if it's bite-size after it's been cooked and cut up using your steak knife...



    If the thought of eating out of a dead cow on the ground along with all it's blood and guts seems gross then maybe you aren't meant to eat meat. You eat meat when it's been cooked, seasoned, and saucey....otherwise it's not very yummy.

    Well, seeing as the cow probably wouldn't like me biting into it. Then I'd have to agree with you. I mean hell I wouldn't let something bite me either. So you're saying that Homo-Habilis and our other ancestors had to have steak knives and cooked all their meals?

    Siehst du mich
    Erkennst du mich
    Ganz tief in meinem Herz
    ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
    Ich suche dich
    Ich sehne mich
    nach dem was ich geliebt hab
    doch ich find es nicht

  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861

    This whole argument that humans aren't meant to eat meat because we don't have teeth/jaws like wolves or claws like tigers is pretty silly and misses something that should be glaringly obvious.  We DO have our equivalent of killing teeth and claws.  It's just that we call them tools or weapons and we make them instead of growing them.

    You might be tempted to say that that doesn't count.  But tool use is the direction that evolution took us.  That's what we are...tool users.  It's almost indisputable that we first started making tools to cut flesh and kill animals.  That's how we became tool users.  If we hadn't started down that path we would probably still be dumb apes chewing on leaves (or extinct).

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