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Sony mouths off again In an interview with Martin Matt, from the popular GameIndustry.biz site, Sony

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In an interview with Martin Matt, from the popular GameIndustry.biz site, Sony UK managing director Ray Maguire calls America "a land of cheap people", while the UK is “a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium”.



When asked about the high price of the PS3 in PAL areas, especially in the UK (where Sony’s console is currently being sold for GBP 425- US $840- more expensive than anywhere in Europe) this is what Ray Maguire had to say:



“If you take what's considered to be the most expensive and the least expensive – consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK – a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more. The cost of retail is vastly more in the UK than it is in the US and that's before you even stop to consider the US doesn't have VAT at RRP, they put a small amount on afterwards. Whereas, we get stung by 17.5 per cent. And pity the poor Irish and places like Sweden.



But we have to remember this is no different to selling a cup of Starbucks coffee or a McDonald's hamburger. This is the cost of living in the UK. It just becomes another barrier for us to get more product into the marketplace because the price needs to be set higher to get from our factory to the consumer.”



Maguire continued to defend PlayStation 3’s actual price of GBP425 by saying it’s “the best for the consumer” although he admitted Sony had thought at selling its product for a higher price, namely GBP 429.



Concerning PS3’s apparently disastrous debut in PAL areas, the Sony UK official admitted to some “issues”, but argued that every console launch had its tides in the past: “Well, it's certainly not been smooth sailing. I'd have to say that every launch has its issues. Sometimes they're behind the scenes so you'll see the grace of the swan above the water and not the rapid movement of legs beneath.”



He also put much of the responsibility for Sony’s bad press in the recent period on the media’s continuous hunger for sensational and biased articles, accusing journalists of being “lazy”  when it comes to selecting information for their articles:



“Nowadays, with how the media works, not only does information fly around at the speed of light, so does mis-information. With blogs on the increase, people's thought processes are transferred from one place to another and picked up by people who might be lazy when it comes to finding out whether something is true or not. The old adage of never let the truth get in the way of a good story is probably more prevalent than it has been before”.



 and folks wonder why we thnk sony has some arrogant leadership???????
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  • freako969freako969 Member Posts: 105
    fantastic post! wtf does this have to do with SWG or MMO's? b00n
  • Arkane11Arkane11 Member Posts: 55
    Best post I have read all day?
  • MyskMysk Member Posts: 982

    Even if I did not live in the states this would still turn my stomach. What a bunch of disgusting, pandering, money worshiping toads.

    I am truly not sure who should be more insulted. People in the states, or people in the UK as these snakes try to slither around them for their money.

    Which is the next country that the PS3 is supposed to release in? I'm morbidly curious to see what insults Sony has for UK nationals after their system flops there, too, and they try to butter up the next group.

    edit: I wondered about the SWG reference, aside from the Sony / SOE relationship. This should probably have been posted in the general forum, if anywhere here. Still, it's good to have seen this regardless IMO.

    edit 2: ah, I guess this is their final stop. That's almost a shame...

    edit 3: .. heh, I managed to not see the link in the OP, never mind this.

  • zoey121zoey121 Member Posts: 926
    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
  • RehmesRehmes Member Posts: 600
    Originally posted by zoey121

    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
    I for one im sad to see a company who rose from being nothing to becoming the top brand in electronics, falling apart because of pathetic business plans. Theres only so much people will pay just because it has a SONY sticker on it.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Originally posted by Rehmes

    Originally posted by zoey121

    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
    I for one im sad to see a company who rose from being nothing to becoming the top brand in electronics, falling apart because of pathetic business plans. Theres only so much people will pay just because it has a SONY sticker on it.

    Boy.. Karma really is a motherfrakking bitch, ain't she?



    Who'd thought consistantly screwing your customers would come back to haunt ya, eh $ony?

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  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273

    Wow Karma showing her hand and bitch slappin sonyt..who'd thunk that a 600.00 over priced console wouldnt succeed..Or changing a game twice with bad results would have any effect on things..Jeez things that make you go hahaha told you so!

  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232
    Hey I would buy a PS3....................





    If they knock 200 bucks off the price. I think the system is great and I like the free online play and the bluetooth  and blu ray and various other blue things that make this console so very nice but I simply refuse to pay 600 bucks for a game console. When The 360 sells for so much less and has comparable graphics it is insane of sony to think they can be competitive. If it wasnt for the xbox live subscription I would buy one of those but I refuse to pay for it again after the rotten experience I had the first time around.



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  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Wow what a bunch of clowns. Your posts make me laugh. Thanks!

  • LemonadeBLemonadeB Member Posts: 4
    I wonder if Sony believes it's all the frowning at their price point that is making people not buy their machine.... hence why they would look at America as said land of "cheap people."



    I for one would definitely be all over the PS3 if there was just something I found worth getting it for.   Honestly, it's a good value, even compared to the 360, due to its blu-ray and HDMI capabilities.



    It's just when the only content I would currently buy for the system are a couple games that are already available for the PC and 360 that makes the price, and the system itself, superfluous.
  • spyderlichspyderlich Member Posts: 20
    Feel that sting? That's pride f**king with you. F**k pride, it only hurts, it never helps.
  • killer4hirekiller4hire Member Posts: 57
    I don't really know anything about SWG, but I saw this topic come up and wanted to check it out.  I think you may be misinterpreting what the guy is saying.  He's comparing the cost of things in the U.S.  to the cost of things in the UK, and simply saying that the cost of living for an American is cheaper than it is for a Brit, hence the higher cost of a PS3 in the UK than in the U.S..  I am in no way trying to defend anybody here.  Frankly, I could care less about SONY or its execs, but saying they're trash talking Americans is pretty bold.  I would think someone in a position like Ray Maguire to have more sense than to "mouth off" and trash talk about the largest consumer base and economy in the world. 
  • LemonadeBLemonadeB Member Posts: 4
    Originally posted by killer4hire

    I don't really know anything about SWG, but I saw this topic come up and wanted to check it out.  I think you may be misinterpreting what the guy is saying.  He's comparing the cost of things in the U.S.  to the cost of things in the UK, and simply saying that the cost of living for an American is cheaper than it is for a Brit hence the higher cost of a PS3 in the UK than in the U.S..  I am in no way trying to defend anybody here.  Frankly, I could care less about SONY or its execs, but saying they're trash talking Americans is pretty bold.  I would think someone in a position like Ray Maguire to have more sense than to "mouth off" and trash talk about the largest consumer base and economy in the world.
    What you say is true.  I just believe it is his poor choice in wording that is showing Sony's bad footing in this.
  • 0k210k21 Member Posts: 866
    uhm they're mostly trash talking UK I feel, but in any case they're trash talking, it's bloody pathetic I hate SOE though I don't hate Sony as much, though if they carry on like this then I probably will end up hating them too. They say it's cheaper in America because of the fact they don't have to pay VAT? well let me tell them something, it's because citizens in America don't have to pay the bloody VAT, people visiting America do, the damn moron clearly doesn't know anything about what he's talking about, blegh, can't be bothered wasting my time here....wait... I just did *wonders off grumbling about how we get free health care and education services because everything is so damn 'expensive'* *yawns and coughs* Currency Value! *coughs* CURRENCY VALUE! *coughs again then walks off fully*

    Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.

  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816
    Originally posted by 0k21

    uhm they're mostly trash talking UK I feel, but in any case they're trash talking, it's bloody pathetic I hate SOE though I don't hate Sony as much, though if they carry on like this then I probably will end up hating them too. They say it's cheaper in America because of the fact they don't have to pay VAT? well let me tell them something, it's because citizens in America don't have to pay the bloody VAT, people visiting America do, the damn moron clearly doesn't know anything about what he's talking about, blegh, can't be bothered wasting my time here....wait... I just did *wonders off grumbling about how we get free health care and education services because everything is so damn 'expensive'* *yawns and coughs* Currency Value! *coughs* CURRENCY VALUE! *coughs again then walks off fully*



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  • SuvrocSuvroc Member Posts: 2,383

    It's funny how Nintendo is kicking Sony's ass with the Wii, when all it took was a little innovation to make something unique.

    I guess it doesn't hurt that it is also significantly cheaper, and a helluva lot of fun!

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    Originally posted by freako969

    fantastic post! wtf does this have to do with SWG or MMO's? b00n
    This is the off topic section, no link to MMOGs required. Read the description of the forum.

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  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147
    Originally posted by Samuraisword

    This is the off topic section, no link to MMOGs required. Read the description of the forum.
    Sorry, forgot to say I moved this from the SWG forums to off-topic.
  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    I don't think you coulda made a longer title.

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  • dsorrentdsorrent Member CommonPosts: 1,627

    Great article! lol



    “If you take what's considered to be the most expensive and the least expensive – consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. "

    Awesome. :)

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832
    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Rehmes

    Originally posted by zoey121

    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
    I for one im sad to see a company who rose from being nothing to becoming the top brand in electronics, falling apart because of pathetic business plans. Theres only so much people will pay just because it has a SONY sticker on it.

    Boy.. Karma really is a motherfrakking bitch, ain't she?



    Who'd thought consistantly screwing your customers would come back to haunt ya, eh $ony?



    Riiiight yeah thats it, its because of the changes to SWG this has all happened.

     If they would have kept the preCU then folks wouldn't have sued over battery packs catching fire and melting laptops, forcing Sony to recall millions of batteries. Instead they would go out and buy $600 consoles by the truck load eh, right?

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  • mithrandir72mithrandir72 Member Posts: 1,286
    Originally posted by BaronJuJu

    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Rehmes

    Originally posted by zoey121

    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
    I for one im sad to see a company who rose from being nothing to becoming the top brand in electronics, falling apart because of pathetic business plans. Theres only so much people will pay just because it has a SONY sticker on it.

    Boy.. Karma really is a motherfrakking bitch, ain't she?



    Who'd thought consistantly screwing your customers would come back to haunt ya, eh $ony?



    Riiiight yeah thats it, its because of the changes to SWG this has all happened.

     If they would have kept the preCU then folks wouldn't have sued over battery packs catching fire and melting laptops, forcing Sony to recall millions of batteries. Instead they would go out and buy $600 consoles by the truck load eh, right?

    I highlighted a keyword you must have missed in his post.  He never said specifically that Pre-CU was the only offence by Sony. Hell, I could name twelve off the top of my head besides that one.

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Originally posted by BaronJuJu

    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Rehmes

    Originally posted by zoey121

    Part of the demise of the happening of nge was due to corporate mindset and not remembering there current customer base.....

    While Soe and sony seprate soe is part of the gaming division
    I for one im sad to see a company who rose from being nothing to becoming the top brand in electronics, falling apart because of pathetic business plans. Theres only so much people will pay just because it has a SONY sticker on it.

    Boy.. Karma really is a motherfrakking bitch, ain't she?



    Who'd thought consistantly screwing your customers would come back to haunt ya, eh $ony?



    Riiiight yeah thats it, its because of the changes to SWG this has all happened.

     If they would have kept the preCU then folks wouldn't have sued over battery packs catching fire and melting laptops, forcing Sony to recall millions of batteries. Instead they would go out and buy $600 consoles by the truck load eh, right?



    Where'd I say SWG was their only clusterfuck?



    Rootkits



    Exploding Batteries



    Jacking the price for the Station Pass



    Screwing the players of Planetside, Matrix, not to mention SWG.



    Screwing PS3 buyers with their "no really.. it's completely backwards compatable. It's not? OOPS!"



    and most of all.. Selling substandard products at inflated prices just because it says "Sony" on it.

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  • methane47methane47 Member UncommonPosts: 3,694
    who the hell are all these strange people?

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  • mithrandir72mithrandir72 Member Posts: 1,286
    Originally posted by methane47

    who the hell are all these strange people?



    OT, meet SWG forum. SWG forum, meet OT.

    Sorry your post got dragged all the way out here SWG forum-goers, but at least you're mingling with a new group.

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