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I think a lot of folks play because it is fun and has a very gentle learning curve. I have played a lot of MMO games starting with UO and EQ and wow is the most finished game of it;s kind I have ever seen.
It is obvious that this game was crafted to be a masterpiece of a game. There is a high level of attention to detail down to the bug in the air and the ambient noise to the overall finished state of the game,
It is easy to attack part of the game. I think that EVE has better PVP, EQ2 has better crafting, AO has greater toon design and customization and so on... All games have their fans and high points. Overall WOW is the best overall game and a lot of folks know it. If you read the reviews here, you get a lot of negative opinions that frankly are not true. I have heard that the servers are deserted and then the next person complains about a wait que. You really have to try it for yourself.
I played several toons to 60 under the original game and not have several maxed out on BC and I have enjoyed the quests and grind and the community. I have met my share of kids but I have also made friends all over the world that I play with everyday. I am a casual gamer these days as work takes my time, but I also play several other mmo games on the side and enjoy them all.
I am happy with wow and the other games I play. My advice is speak your mind if you like but in the end, everyone has a different expectation and enjoyment level with any game. Try it and see if it is for you and when you have had enough then be glad for the experience and move on.
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Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I do agree that there are many fanbois on here and that does get old. I don't play at a very fast pace in the game but I do know there are hard core gamers that max out very quickly. I just don't enjoy flying through a game, for me I want to see everything that I can. I have found that in WOW you can't see it all the first time as a lot of areas gray out on you before you get to do the quests there and the mobs are not worth XP because they are to high.
There is really no death penalty like I had in EQ/EQ2/AO so I am not frustrated as often. I don't like a game that makes me mad/stressed as I have a high pressure job to do that !
I just like the fact that it is unique and I feel it is well worth my money. I quit SOE games because that constantly change the game and that is unstable to me.
Overall I like WOW a lot but to each his own.
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Everyone knows that all 8 mil of those players play it for the deep tradition Blizzard has while the stick to the lore. Right? RIGHT?!!
J/l the truth is , is that it was the new kid on the block and everyone told everyone how easy the learning curve is which introduced new players into the MMORPG world.
Gotta admit I have played all the warcraft games from warcraft to WCII to 3 and frozen throne. Azeroth is a very familiar place to me. I am sure that has a lot to do with it.
I remember the first time I saw a tower in the game or hear a peon say zugzug or saw an engineer deploy an exploding sheep. It all ties together. EQ / EQ2 is the same way to alesser degree.
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Except for many players like me, who have played many MMORPGs before, and find WoW to be a better game with a world that is diverse and wonderfully constructed.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Initially people started playing WoW because of name recognition (everyone remembers the old Warcraft games) and a very agressive marketing campaign by Blizzard. Now people still go to it for a reason I refer to as the 'bandwagon effect'. Simple minded people use simple logic: "If a game has the most people playing it then it must be the best". If one or two respected members of another game's guilds quit to play WOW then many of the others would follow. Blizzard got the bandwagon rolling and people still run to jump on it even now.
Some may argue that it is the game itself that is soo freakin good that people cant help but to play it. Graphics, name recognition and hype aside, the game itself is not much different than all the other hundreds of cookie-cutter dumbed down D&D wannabe games out there. I mean, If it really was the game itself, then wouldn't games like EQ2 that are very similar to WOW also be as popular?
Face it, MMORPG players generally go to games that have a large player base because the games themselves rely mostly on player interaction to be successful. Going where "everyone else went" is the essence of the bandwagon effect and the main reason so many play WOW now in my opinion.
while rankings may never show it. Lineage 2 and Ragnarok Online has and will always been some of the best MMORPGs ever.
Lineage 2 for the PvP aspect that balances both risk and reward. WoW has none of that. PvP becomes mundane and repetative and simply.... boring. Battle in L2 are totally epic, people make videos about various battle. WoW makes videos are a joke or to demonstrate how imbalanced the game is which is totally halarious.
Ragnarok Online for the extensive thought out game dynamics. When your stuned... you can't dodge. Something so simple doesn't exist in WoW or L2 or most other MMORG games. The game combat system is simply superior to anything i have ever seen with many many different 'builds' for any class and almost never can 1 player be exactly the same as the other. The card system allows for endless customization of equipment beyond simply 'socketed' items or enchanted items.
What does WoW offer? A great customer service, there are few if any botters and one of the best server maintiance, their servers are rarely down if ever. It also offers as mentioned, the easiest learning curve. Effectively lvl 1-69 is the tutorial... And it is almost impossible to make a mistake that isn't fixable. If you mess you in PvP or PvE for that matter in L2, it's a loss of a WHOLE day of grinding or even loss of near irreplaceable gear. In RO, your stat points are FINAL so any mistake in your build can never be changed. WoW is alot more friendly.
WoW also offers the best lore. Ofcouse they had almost 10 years to develop it.
needless to say, WoW is a good game. but not the best.
I love WoW, it have the best story and quest. Easy gameplay and less worries on character statistic. Raid is the only thing that isnt my cup of tea.
All canceled. Waiting on Warhammer Online : Age of Reckoning.
" WoW also offers the best lore. Ofcouse they had almost 10 years to develop it." WoW offers the best LORE. AKA the story, the setting, the enviorment. WoW didn't take 10 years to develop. I did not say that. But since the first Warcraft and throughout all the expansions, they have 10 years to expand and progress the story. WHICH is more then any other MMORPG.
But besides that the PvP is poor and the PvE is nearly just as bad. But the low stress is a major ++.
WoW is like Mc Donalds....
No matter how crappy the food, and how much you complain about it, people will still play it and when you eat it it tastes so good....
WoW is the Big Mac of MMORPGS like it or not....
Blizzard has done an excellent job in creating a product and service that appeals to the masses just like Micky Dsssss
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Quarter Pounder with Extra Mayooooooooooooooooooooooo
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
If you were honest with yourself and not just making a dig at the game because you don't like it, and if you were serious about discovering the truth about the question this thread attempts to answer (why do people play WoW?), you wouldn't make or agree with such a statement. If you consider the concept of 'truth', in a remotely philisophical way you would know that there is no single truth, no single reason why this game is popular, not even a string of similar reasons, because there are many differing reasons - different reasons for each person.
Perhaps all this WoW hatred is because the haters themselves are angry because they don't understand why people enjoy the game? Perhaps the real problem people have with WoW is the fact that it doesn't appeal to them like it does to so many others, and that annoys them? Perhaps you've tried soo hard to enjoy the game, that you're looking for a reason to play the game aside from actually just playing the game?
As far as the truth goes, I doubt those who claim they've found the truth - who pretend to understand why the game they hate is enjoyed, and only trust those who seek it.
If you cannot understand the serenity of sweeping across outland on a flying mount you worked hard to earn, if you cannot appreciate the commaradarie of helping to get your guildmate an item he's been hoping would drop for ages, if you cannot feel the elation you get when you turn around near-defeat into a glorious victory in the battlegrounds, if you do not enjoy the class you play and all the little
quirks of it, if you don't see the majesty of Stormwind or appreciate the scale of Ironforge, if you do not enjoy the range of options the game gives you, counting them all as something you could enjoy, then don't even bother even contemplating why some of us play WoW.
Perhaps you will never understand.
I've found depth and beauty in WoW that rivals anything that other games have given me, but I don't claim to know the truth about why those people enjoy those games. I've climbed the social ladders of Everquest, lead guilds through expansions, enjoyed the intense policitcal meta-game of EVE - seen my corporation obliterated and still relished the realness of it.
Perhaps I've aquired a taste to that MacDonalds Quarter Pounder with Extra Mayo, after tasting everything else and realizing that at the end of the day, it all comes out the same way - and flushed down the toilet.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
If you were honest with yourself and not just making a dig at the game because you don't like it, and if you were serious about discovering the truth about the question this thread attempts to answer (why do people play WoW?), you wouldn't make or agree with such a statement. If you consider the concept of 'truth', in a remotely philisophical way you would know that there is no single truth, no single reason why this game is popular, not even a string of similar reasons, because there are many differing reasons - different reasons for each person.
Perhaps all this WoW hatred is because the haters themselves are angry because they don't understand why people enjoy the game? Perhaps the real problem people have with WoW is the fact that it doesn't appeal to them like it does to so many others, and that annoys them? Perhaps you've tried soo hard to enjoy the game, that you're looking for a reason to play the game aside from actually just playing the game?
As far as the truth goes, I doubt those who claim they've found the truth - who pretend to understand why the game they hate is enjoyed, and only trust those who seek it.
If you cannot understand the serenity of sweeping across outland on a flying mount you worked hard to earn, if you cannot appreciate the commaradarie of helping to get your guildmate an item he's been hoping would drop for ages, if you cannot feel the elation you get when you turn around near-defeat into a glorious victory in the battlegrounds, if you do not enjoy the class you play and all the little
quirks of it, if you don't see the majesty of Stormwind or appreciate the scale of Ironforge, if you do not enjoy the range of options the game gives you, counting them all as something you could enjoy, then don't even bother even contemplating why some of us play WoW.
Perhaps you will never understand.
I've found depth and beauty in WoW that rivals anything that other games have given me, but I don't claim to know the truth about why those people enjoy those games. I've climbed the social ladders of Everquest, lead guilds through expansions, enjoyed the intense policitcal meta-game of EVE - seen my corporation obliterated and still relished the realness of it.
Perhaps I've aquired a taste to that MacDonalds Quarter Pounder with Extra Mayo, after tasting everything else and realizing that at the end of the day, it all comes out the same way - and flushed down the toilet. Lol all that and still prooved me nothing...
Why is saying WoW is McDonalds of MMORPG's a bad thing? It's simply the closest the truth I can possible come. It's simple, it's fast, it's everywhere and it's accessible = McDonalds That enough for you then?
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
If anyone has seen Idiocracy, the film, they'll know what I'm talking about. If you haven't go watch it. It's set in the future where due to a higher reproductivity and no real survival advantage gained from intelligence, stupid people have reproduced so much that there were no intelligent people left by 2500, except one...
Anyway, good film, go watch it and realise the trends that are happening today are gonna end BAD.
But yeh, if you love being a sheep, keep playing WoW
If anyone has seen Idiocracy, the film, they'll know what I'm talking about. If you haven't go watch it. It's set in the future where due to a higher reproductivity and no real survival advantage gained from intelligence, stupid people have reproduced so much that there were no intelligent people left by 2500, except one...
Anyway, good film, go watch it and realise the trends that are happening today are gonna end BAD.
But yeh, if you love being a sheep, keep playing WoW But WoW is not a burger, as you said you cannot compare the mmo market to the fast food market. If I was goona make a car I would not research and look for trends in the fish'n'chip market.
And where is all this advertising thats being thrown at me and forcing me to play? advertising might make some 1 try the game (thats the whole point of advertising BTW), it does not keep em playing, and cry as much as you like people wanna keep plaing WoW, if WoW was such a bad game no amount of advertising would save it.
WoW is what I call an arcade MMO, in that I can drop a few quaters and have some fun, other MMO are a life and I dont have time for that, im too busy in real life.
Doesn't take away from WOW in anyway... its a good game too... but posting threads like this just invites others to bash it.... what other reaction would you expect?
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Like these guys:
I can just imagine them saying something like "Our MMO is truer than your MMO!"
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Unfortunately it's end game is not that fun and it has virtually no pvp, so it gets boring quick and a lot of us are now sitting on our hands waiting for a better MMORPG to come out.
"I can just imagine them saying something like "Our MMO is truer than your MMO!""
If you had even read my post, I mentioned that I gave up on MMOs for the next couple of years or so. Likely when AOC and WAR come out they'll be badly bugged for the first few months.
But then why would I expect someone who defends WoW like this to come up with an intelligent response?
It's a worrying trend in society today tbh.
If anyone has seen Idiocracy, the film, they'll know what I'm talking about. If you haven't go watch it. It's set in the future where due to a higher reproductivity and no real survival advantage gained from intelligence, stupid people have reproduced so much that there were no intelligent people left by 2500, except one...
Anyway, good film, go watch it and realise the trends that are happening today are gonna end BAD.
But yeh, if you love being a sheep, keep playing WoW But WoW is not a burger, as you said you cannot compare the mmo market to the fast food market. If I was goona make a car I would not research and look for trends in the fish'n'chip market.
And where is all this advertising thats being thrown at me and forcing me to play? advertising might make some 1 try the game (thats the whole point of advertising BTW), it does not keep em playing, and cry as much as you like people wanna keep plaing WoW, if WoW was such a bad game no amount of advertising would save it.
WoW is what I call an arcade MMO, in that I can drop a few quaters and have some fun, other MMO are a life and I dont have time for that, im too busy in real life.
Actually when I said I was comparing incompareable things I was referring to socialism in europe and politicians who win votes by lying the most. I was actually quite directly comparing WoW to a burger. You don't really want it, you just think you do because you've been brainwashed by ads. Let's not forget that we're talking about first tie gamers who probably joined because their friend plays. They don't have experience with other games and find WoW amazing and fun (despite the horrible grind and crap end gameplay), so they keep playing anyway, until they will eventually gt bored, at which point a ripple effect will pass that info to all his friends and they'll likely run to a new MMO.
It's mob behaviour. And history always shows that the mob never did what was right, and always harmed themselves in the process. Whether it be time wasted, or dumbing yourself down playing games with such a low learning curve. Come to think of it one of the reasons I played Eve was that only people with patience and maturity ever ended up playing the game. The impatient people who wanted instant gratification got seeded out, and still do.
Oh and I guess you were referring to WoW as an arcade MMO. Well, ask the millions of people who spend hours upon hours per day playing that game if it's a minor past time or like a second life to them.