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Seriously, what's the point of making vanguard flame posts over and over and over? Is it because you spent too much time playing eq1 instead of living a real life? I dunno making friends, getting some, etc?



If you're gonna complain about a game you dont even play, why not do it in the general forum so that people who actually enjoy playing the game can have constructive conversations without the risk of some loser hijacking the thread.



 "Lawlz!! Vanguard sucks! Deal with it! LOTRO is the new black nUbZ." = older than your grandma's teats only less interesting.



And yeah I find your grandma's nip-nips interesting.
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  • PraxusPraxus Member Posts: 266
    People who "spent too much time playing EQ1" probably like Vanguard.



    I know I do
  • AriocArioc Member Posts: 299
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Seriously, what's the point of making vanguard flame posts over and over and over? Is it because you spent too much time playing eq1 instead of living a real life? I dunno making friends, getting some, etc?



    If you're gonna complain about a game you dont even play, why not do it in the general forum so that people who actually enjoy playing the game can have constructive conversations without the risk of some loser hijacking the thread.



     "Lawlz!! Vanguard sucks! Deal with it! LOTRO is the new black nUbZ." = older than your grandma's teats only less interesting.



    And yeah I find your grandma's nip-nips interesting.
    The best way to start a rational discussion is not to begin with irrational statments or accusations. Granted this is probably not ment to evoke a discussion as much as slander those with views opposing your own, but then how are you differant then they are?

    Arioc Murkwood
    Environment Artist
    Sad but true.

  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by Arioc

    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Seriously, what's the point of making vanguard flame posts over and over and over? Is it because you spent too much time playing eq1 instead of living a real life? I dunno making friends, getting some, etc?



    If you're gonna complain about a game you dont even play, why not do it in the general forum so that people who actually enjoy playing the game can have constructive conversations without the risk of some loser hijacking the thread.



     "Lawlz!! Vanguard sucks! Deal with it! LOTRO is the new black nUbZ." = older than your grandma's teats only less interesting.



    And yeah I find your grandma's nip-nips interesting.
    The best way to start a rational discussion is not to begin with irrational statments or accusations. Granted this is probably not ment to evoke a discussion as much as slander those with views opposing your own, but then how are you differant then they are?

    I wasnt starting this post to slander anyone or their views, but I wanted to remind others that it would be more constructive to express those views elsewhere. I would also like to add that there is nothing irrational about my statements as you can clearly see from any one of the top 10 threads for this board, that this behavior is commonplace, unnecessary, and rather irritating to people that wish to have said "rational discussions." Thank you as well, for taking YOUR slanderous accusations elsewhere.
  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp



    I wasnt starting this post to slander anyone or their views, but I wanted to remind others that it would be more constructive to express those views elsewhere.

    You'd have more of an argument if MMORPG.com was strictly a Vanguard fansite. It's not. It's a public site that anyone can join, provided they have an interest in MMO's in general.



    This isn't a fansite, and the game forums here aren't strictly limited to fans of those games. Anyone can post, ask questions, or express opinions, both positive and negative. If you're looking for a more closed community that strictly caters only to fans of the game, I'd suggest going through the sites on this list, and finding one that more suits your needs:



    vgplayers.station.sony.com/links.vm



    Good luck!
  • StoneysilencStoneysilenc Member Posts: 369
    There would be less VG sucks posts if it didn't suck.  Mainly the vitriol comes because people invested 2-3 years looking forward to this game.  They were promised so much but given very little.

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  • URMAKERURMAKER Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Seriously, what's the point of making vanguard flame posts over and over and over? Is it because you spent too much time playing eq1 instead of living a real life? I dunno making friends, getting some, etc?



    If you're gonna complain about a game you dont even play, why not do it in the general forum so that people who actually enjoy playing the game can have constructive conversations without the risk of some loser hijacking the thread.



     "Lawlz!! Vanguard sucks! Deal with it! LOTRO is the new black nUbZ." = older than your grandma's teats only less interesting.



    And yeah I find your grandma's nip-nips interesting.
    most of the complaint threads i've read are from people who played or are playing vanguard.

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  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by Lidane

    Originally posted by thosewhoharp



    I wasnt starting this post to slander anyone or their views, but I wanted to remind others that it would be more constructive to express those views elsewhere.

    You'd have more of an argument if MMORPG.com was strictly a Vanguard fansite. It's not. It's a public site that anyone can join, provided they have an interest in MMO's in general.



    This isn't a fansite, and the game forums here aren't strictly limited to fans of those games. Anyone can post, ask questions, or express opinions, both positive and negative. If you're looking for a more closed community that strictly caters only to fans of the game, I'd suggest going through the sites on this list, and finding one that more suits your needs:



    vgplayers.station.sony.com/links.vm



    Good luck!

    The same could be said for any of the pages listed on the given link. Just because MMORPG.com wasnt listed on that site doesnt make this particular node any less valid a forum for constructive conversation. This node of MMORPG is just like any other node or forum associated with a gaming site, be it Ten Ton Hammer, WarCry, IGN, etc.



    Actually, a stickied thread titled "Official 'We're Angry about SOE" Thread' seems to have been set aside for general complaints about Vanguard and SOE within the vanguard forum. Perhaps this was to steer the flamers to post there? It seems to me that  MMORPG would tend to agree with my sentiment, and would like to see that flame threads dont dominate the board. But then you and I both would be speaking for the people who run this site now wouldnt we? My apologies to MMORPG, and good luck to you as well miss!
  • jpete3jpete3 Member Posts: 15
    There's just something funny about these vangaurd threads.  Those that like it claim that those that don't are idiots and visa versa.  I laugh when a game that got so much hype (yep, I bought into it) gets beatin like a rented mule.  No matter what time of day or night you can bet someone is killin vangaurd.
  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300


    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Actually, a stickied thread titled "Official 'We're Angry about SOE" Thread' seems to have been set aside for general complaints about Vanguard and SOE within the vanguard forum. Perhaps this was to steer the flamers to post there?

    Er, no. If you read the original post in that thread, it was created because of the massive negative reaction to Vanguard making the jump to SOE. It was a way to consolidate all of those threads into one big one, because all of the flames about VG dealing with Sony were flooding the board and preventing discussion about anything else.

    Other than that, the boards here are for anyone to make any topic they feel is valid. That includes people with a negative slant on a game.

  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by jpete3

    There's just something funny about these vangaurd threads.  Those that like it claim that those that don't are idiots and visa versa.  I laugh when a game that got so much hype (yep, I bought into it) gets beatin like a rented mule.  No matter what time of day or night you can bet someone is killin vangaurd.
    If I'm not mistaken, I dont think anyone has said that they are pro or against Vanguard. But maybe you werent refering to us?
  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by Lidane


     

    Originally posted by thosewhoharp



    Actually, a stickied thread titled "Official 'We're Angry about SOE" Thread' seems to have been set aside for general complaints about Vanguard and SOE within the vanguard forum. Perhaps this was to steer the flamers to post there?

    Er, no. If you read the original post in that thread, it was created because of the massive negative reaction to Vanguard making the jump to SOE. It was a way to consolidate all of those threads into one big one, because all of the flames about VG dealing with Sony were flooding the board and preventing discussion about anything else.

    Other than that, the boards here are for anyone to make any topic they feel is valid. That includes people with a negative slant on a game.



    Could they not also do their negative slanting in one of the general forums? It seems absurd that when someone asks a valid question about this specific game the thread is hijacked by off topic immature comments. See my example in the first post for instance. You see Lidane? This is the type of discussion I hoped to promote, and I appreciate your input. After taking your suggestion and reviewing the posts MMORPG may indeed have moved it because of the partnership, but I think you'll find most of the discussion centers again around "VG sucks. F sony!. Wow is KIng!" posts and without these posts and threads would not have flooded the board.
  • jabeastjabeast Member Posts: 11
    Im surprised anyone is posting in this thread actually considering the title
  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672
    Are SOE hating posts still ok?
  • KorususKorusus Member UncommonPosts: 831
    I think it's interesting that this is the second thread recently on the board asking for people to stop posting "VG hating threads" and both times the OP is a new member with <20 posts

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  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by Korusus

    I think it's interesting that this is the second thread recently on the board asking for people to stop posting "VG hating threads" and both times the OP is a new member with <20 posts
    I think it's interesting that you find interest in posts by people that dont have "Elite Member" status. You arent Elitist though right?
  • dendeadendea Member Posts: 110
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Originally posted by Korusus

    I think it's interesting that this is the second thread recently on the board asking for people to stop posting "VG hating threads" and both times the OP is a new member with <20 posts
    I think it's interesting that you find interest in posts by people that dont have "Elite Member" status. You arent Elitist though right?

    I think korusus is 100% right, if your new to the boards dont tell the people that have been here for years how to post on there own forums. If they think Vanguard sucks and you dont agree with them...... well, why not just find a place that doesnt think vanguard sucks....



    If only i could find a troll with a tin foil hat. =(

  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by dendea

    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Originally posted by Korusus

    I think it's interesting that this is the second thread recently on the board asking for people to stop posting "VG hating threads" and both times the OP is a new member with <20 posts
    I think it's interesting that you find interest in posts by people that dont have "Elite Member" status. You arent Elitist though right?

    I think korusus is 100% right, if your new to the boards dont tell the people that have been here for years how to post on there own forums. If they think Vanguard sucks and you dont agree with them...... well, why not just find a place that doesnt think vanguard sucks....



    We arent telling anyone how to post on "their own forums." No matter how long ago, once we make a forum account they become "our" forums. Are you going to walk up to someone on the sidewalk that's a year younger than you, push them into the street and say they cant walk there because you've been alive longer?
  • RPGBeechRPGBeech Member Posts: 171
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Seriously, what's the point of making vanguard flame posts over and over and over? Is it because you spent too much time playing eq1 instead of living a real life? I dunno making friends, getting some, etc?



    If you're gonna complain about a game you dont even play, why not do it in the general forum so that people who actually enjoy playing the game can have constructive conversations without the risk of some loser hijacking the thread.



     "Lawlz!! Vanguard sucks! Deal with it! LOTRO is the new black nUbZ." = older than your grandma's teats only less interesting.



    And yeah I find your grandma's nip-nips interesting.
    One could also ask what is the point of making so many stop the Vanguard hating posts. 

    No one ever listens, you would think they would take the hint.  



    I didn't realize that people's enjoyment of the game was so tenuous that it could be jeopardized by

    someone saying something less than complimentary about the game.



    Maybe the viral marketing isn't quite as effective as some had hoped.  




  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092
    Originally posted by Stoneysilenc

    There would be less VG sucks posts if it didn't suck.  Mainly the vitriol comes because people invested 2-3 years looking forward to this game.  They were promised so much but given very little.
    Spot on.
  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785
    So the bottom line is, "I joined MMORPG so I could dictate what kind of posts are acceptable, and any who disagree should go post somewhere else?"



    If you are such a fan of the game, why are YOU here? Obviously, this site's members aren't up to snuff with you because they aren't all about how Vanguard is the best ever.



    Also, if you are so in love with VG, what do you care how the "elitists" post about it. Go join one of the carefully-screened boards that ban those with the audacity to dissent.



    Sheesh, do you even have a point? Besides how much you dislike seeing so many people disappointed with the game? Maybe its time to consider doing what the vanbois are always telling others.."People who like the game are playing, not on boards defending it."



    Go play it and don't concern yourself with being a self-appointed moderator on MMORPG.
  • dendeadendea Member Posts: 110
    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Originally posted by dendea

    Originally posted by thosewhoharp

    Originally posted by Korusus

    I think it's interesting that this is the second thread recently on the board asking for people to stop posting "VG hating threads" and both times the OP is a new member with <20 posts
    I think it's interesting that you find interest in posts by people that dont have "Elite Member" status. You arent Elitist though right?

    I think korusus is 100% right, if your new to the boards dont tell the people that have been here for years how to post on there own forums. If they think Vanguard sucks and you dont agree with them...... well, why not just find a place that doesnt think vanguard sucks....



    We arent telling anyone how to post on "their own forums." No matter how long ago, once we make a forum account they become "our" forums. Are you going to walk up to someone on the sidewalk that's a year younger than you, push them into the street and say they cant walk there because you've been alive longer?

    Let me give you a better example, some one fresh out of school gets hired by a company and the first day on the job the new kid tells every one in the office ( some who have worked there for years) that there system is all wrong. They should scrap there entire system and do it your way, since you have a whole 20 days of experience in the company.

    Cause thats what your doing, and well im just not going to let it fly.

    If only i could find a troll with a tin foil hat. =(

  • thosewhoharpthosewhoharp Member Posts: 54
    It's hilarious that because of your account age that you feel you can bully *cough* I mean discipline anyone on this board. It would appear that when someone has a conflicting view you just cant "let it fly." You have no real power except the one to voice your opinions. This post started due to the immature posts that so obviously have nothing to do with anything someone is trying to ask. We get it you dont like the game. Who the hell cares? If you'll notice I've never voiced my opinion on the game either way. To imply that I'm "vanboi" is baseless and a laughable attempt to justify your elitism by trying to ridicule those who dont like to have your shit spoon fed to them.



    Example poster with valid question: Hey guys I am upgrading my computer what should I buy?



    (Elite Member): Vanguard sucks dont bother. Anyone who isnt smart enough to read the flame posts in the forums should go away. We know what we're talking about. Trust us.



    What does that have to with anything what the original poster asked? Sure it was a vague example but it's a summary of the type of nonsense you find acceptable. It'd be nice if the community was helpful instead of weighed down with cyber-egotists that hide behind their keyboards and have delusions of grandeur.
  • dendeadendea Member Posts: 110

    First let me say I’m sorry if you felt I was bullying you, it was never the reason why I posted here. I’m very serious about this, and hope you don’t think it was a personal attack in any way.



    I would also like to say that I agree with you in many areas, I think many of the anti vanguard trolls do take it to far (not all but some do).



    I would also like to point out that my philosophy has always been if you play vanguard and enjoy it kudos’ to you. It wasn’t the game for me but it doesn’t matter.



    With that out of the way I would like to say my point is it’s not wise to try and join a forum, and then start telling us where to post.



    If you’re on these boards and have a good reputation (e.g. Being non biased, rational when posting, and well know to the community) it’s more likely that people will listen to what you have to say. Sadly though if you haven’t been here even a month….. It’s not likely that you have enough respect from the members where they would think about listening to what you have to say.



    P.S. try to avoid the LEET speak when trying to make a point you want taken serious, and also try and be less condescending especially in your opening paragraph. It really will help more people listen to what you have to say then just ignoring what you have to say.

    Oh and Thosewhoharp once again I seriously hope i didnt anger you. I just thought it was ironic and got carried away. I like to play the devil's advocate.

    If only i could find a troll with a tin foil hat. =(

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785
    See now you've gotten offensive and lost your cool.



    Also, this is the general discussion forum, so according to you, we are in the right place.



    "It would appear that when someone has a conflicting view you just cant "let it fly."



    Nor can you, apparently.



    "You have no real power except the one to voice your opinions"



    ...Unless that opinion is Vanguard isn't very good?



    "...laughable attempt to justify your elitism..."



    "...weighed down with cyber-egotists that hide behind their keyboards and have delusions of grandeur."



    Gee, why wouldn't the community be glad to have you tell us what and where to post?



    Good luck with that, I believe I will just post as I see fit for now though. Enjoy Vanguard.
  • dendeadendea Member Posts: 110
    Originally posted by Die_Scream

    See now you've gotten offensive and lost your cool.



    Also, this is the general discussion forum, so according to you, we are in the right place.



    "It would appear that when someone has a conflicting view you just cant "let it fly."



    Nor can you, apparently.



    "You have no real power except the one to voice your opinions"



    ...Unless that opinion is Vanguard isn't very good?



    "...laughable attempt to justify your elitism..."



    "...weighed down with cyber-egotists that hide behind their keyboards and have delusions of grandeur."



    Gee, why wouldn't the community be glad to have you tell us what and where to post?



    Good luck with that, I believe I will just post as I see fit for now though. Enjoy Vanguard.



    Lets not be to hard on the new guy please, I think he has already taken enough heat for one thread.  

    Oh and btw i hope you read my post above Die_Screams.

    If only i could find a troll with a tin foil hat. =(

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