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DAOC needs
Shazzel
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1) Quick easy download of all expansions (free of course)
2) Free to play or bi-yearly fee plan of say 19.99. Six months for 20$, thats about whats this games worth at most.
3) True "classic" servers and once and for all kill off the buffbots.
4) Origional emain, not NF.
5) Class balance.
6) 300-400% leveling speed. Their PVE has always been crap, even compared to EQ1.
2) Free to play or bi-yearly fee plan of say 19.99. Six months for 20$, thats about whats this games worth at most.
3) True "classic" servers and once and for all kill off the buffbots.
4) Origional emain, not NF.
5) Class balance.
6) 300-400% leveling speed. Their PVE has always been crap, even compared to EQ1.
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1) Quick easy download of all expansions (free of course)
That would be cool
2) Free to play or bi-yearly fee plan of say 19.99. Six months for 20$, thats about whats this games worth at most.
I don't really think so. This is my opinion only, but I think that Daoc is worth 12$ per month.
3) True "classic" servers and once and for all kill off the buffbots.
Buff bots in groups don't really matter, it just makes the buff bot user in trouble.
4) Origional emain, not NF.
I don't understand the bashing of NF, it's always been better than OF. And when you said Emain, I feel sorry for hibs cos albs and mids were always camping Emain. Really boring
5) Class balance.
There is enough of class balance already, you don't want it to be like WoW, do you?
6) 300-400% leveling speed. Their PVE has always been crap, even compared to EQ1
Their PVE has always been awesome imo.
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1. Quick easy download of all expansions (free of course)
That would be nice but then mythic wouldn't make any money to keep the game running.
2. Free to play or bi-yearly fee plan of say 19.99. Six months for $20, thats about whats this games worth at most.
I disagree this game is worth the $14 a month that everyone pays nothing is free in life get use to it.
3. True classic servers and once and for all kill off the buffbots.
Now thats is stupid I love my buff bot and as a assassin you need a buffbot just to kill people .
4. Original emain not Nf.
NF is much better than OF
5. Class Balance.
This is not WOW if you want class balance go play WOW there will always be a OPed class in each realm.
6. 300-400% leveling speed. Their PVE has always been crap, even compared to EQ1.
That would make the game to easy and there wouldn't be any fun in that Doac PVE is fun it all depends on what u do.
Everygame PVE is crap tell me one that is not. DAOC just make it up with there PVP
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Game actull went to crap with toa,
Yes to old emain and the 3 hour milegate standoffs.
Classic server should be just that classic classes from origaninal game no others and no ra's and spell crafting.
Epic armor and loot drops like it was in the begining.. No ra's that only reward the lifeless loser who plays 20 hours aday since there the only one who benifit from it.
Class balance is so out of whack best to scrap the code and start from scratch.
PvE is alright its easy to level with 1.5 xp in rvr zone such as bg exping all the way to 50
And TDs make it quick to level
How fun would the game be after 5 years with no changes, please go troll somewhere else!
Old Emain was hell for Hibs, they had to run for 15mins to get to the action. the New Fronteirs might be abit to big, but it sure as hell is better.
a mmo must change, no change for a mmo means a quick death.
Replay value > bad expansions
How fun would the game be after 5 years with no changes, please go troll somewhere else!
Old Emain was hell for Hibs, they had to run for 15mins to get to the action. the New Fronteirs might be abit to big, but it sure as hell is better.
a mmo must change, no change for a mmo means a quick death.
i liked the 15 min runs, being ambushed etc, loved all of ofThere are quite a few expansions offered for free. The newer content still requires a fee, but it is rather inexpensive compared to expansions offered by other games.
I wholeheartendly disagree. Perhaps you simply need to find a new game. DAoC is well worth the subscription rate.
Describe what you mean by classic. There are classic servers available, which I am sure you know. What about them do you take issue with? As for buffbots... good luck with that.
I can't really comment here, as I've only recently come back...
What do you feel is out of balance?
That's just crazy talk.
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There are quite a few expansions offered for free. The newer content still requires a fee, but it is rather inexpensive compared to expansions offered by other games.
The main point here is:
A) Stores dont sell DAOC therefore quick easy download is required if its to bring in new players.
I wholeheartendly disagree. Perhaps you simply need to find a new game. DAoC is well worth the subscription rate.
All games must evolve eventually or die. DAOC no longer offers a value to justify a normal market share pricing plan. I also dont need to "find" a new game as i havnt played DAOC for years but i do keep up with it (as i do with every former game).
Originally posted by Shazzel
3) True "classic" servers and once and for all kill off the buffbots.
Describe what you mean by classic. There are classic servers available, which I am sure you know. What about them do you take issue with? As for buffbots... good luck with that.
Those are NOT classic servers, they are normal servers without TOA.
Originally posted by Shazzel
4) Origional emain, not NF.
I can't really comment here, as I've only recently come back...
If you wernt around during origional DAOC then yea this topic doesnt need your feedback.
Originally posted by Shazzel
5) Class balance.
What do you feel is out of balance?
On a normal server? 70% of the game with regards to class's,RA's,armor and assorted expansion abilities and of course buffbots.
Originally posted by Shazzel
6) 300-400% leveling speed. Their PVE has always been crap, even compared to EQ1.
That's just crazy talk.
Not really, they recently pushed it up to 200% in NF and 150% elsewhere. Nice attempt but still to slow.
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Bossiney Cluster : 3 servers. 680 online
Caerleon Cluster: 4 servers. 474 online
Devon Cluster: 6 servers!! 502 online
Killibury Cluster: 4 servers. 433 online
Tintagel Cluster: 3 servers. 282 online
Gaheris Server: 104 online
Mordred Server: 188 online
Next factor in 30% or so of those online are buffbots. Your left with 1700ish people for 22 servers. So yea based on numbers it appears more people in the mmorpg world agree with me that this game isnt worth buying or paying for.
Post WAR I bet EA will close this game down within a year. Some of these servers sport less than 100 people.
Another thing to notice is that the evidence doesn't support you. You would need a link between what you say and any "evidence" which you do not have. I could say that people that play DAOC have sex mostly between say 3am-9am. My evidence is that the subscription numbers are so low that I am right. You need a conncection between the events.
What is most like the case? That you, a troll who has never run a game company and have no inside information making up statistics off of the top of your head is correct, or that there is some other explanation?
How many games that are over 5 years old have a huge population? I cannot think of any. There is a cycle that people observe with games. You have a lot of early adopters. When the first expansion comes out you have another huge bump in the population. Sometime between this event and the 3rd year of the game it finds it peak and then starts to decline. The fact that DAOC has followed this pattern along with having WoW and other competition out there is of no surprise. The early adopters quit, move to other games, and play less. Many people that are into mmo, tend to play 1-2 at a time and switch to the "newest" game when it comes out because they feel they "beat" the game or just get bored. Older games are not on shelves, they are not advertised, people have this idea that newer=better, (even with it comes to prescription drugs people think this even though the FDA and independet tests show many new drugs are less effective than older medications), so just like non-mmos, the number of people buying, playing, and continuing to play older games is far less than newer ones. There is a reason why Blizzard is working on another MMO and this is one of the reasons.
You see this involves a comparission between other mmo's and the game market in general. It observes the subscription numbers of older "successful" mmos. But we should trust your explanation without evidence or reasoning because you took subscription numbers during what is a dead time for most games.
Those numbers were at 4 am EST which is still late in NY but no so bad in CALI. No offense but when 1 WoW server outnumbers your entire 22 server population,..then well.....
I remember playing DAoC way back when... Before the Trials of Atlantis was released... Oh man, what fun. It was the greatest PvP experience I've had to date playing MMOs. PvE wasn't half bad, either. I do remember many days spent in Darkness Falls or the Catacombs of Cordova with groups... So much fun.
I'm playing the 14-day trial now... And if they consolidated their many small servers to about half to increase populations on each server... I'd probably start paying again. If it only didn't seem so barren a world..
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Sounds like you played old school lancelot. The hib groups there were nasty. Albs were massive zerg and mids were sheep for the most part.
DAoC was the first mmo I played hardcore and loved every minute of it. After a long 2.5-3 year break I'm back and loving it.
New Stuff:
-Quests! Wow you noobs having something to do when you first get in game and you dont just have to grind.
-Free Speed Buff and Mount! Every town has a minstrel you can get a speed buff from and if that's not good enough, they give you a free mount at lvl10. You can also buy other better mounts as you go along.
-Subscription. It's like 13 or 14 I can't remember and yeah maybe it should be dropped to like 10, that'd be alittle more fair on Mythic's part. But, don't you think EA's presences will now give DAoC more money to play with? We're dealing with EA Mythic now...it's the big guns. EA will evaluate DAoC's potential and put in money where they see fit.
Pretty much the future of DAoC rests in you old players coming back to give it a second chance and EA realizing that there are people out there that want to play a great game like DAoC.
-NF are interesting with the whole siege thing happening but yes I do miss old emain. Possibly should impliment a smaller frontier to fight in and then expand as more people come back.
-True classic...ok if you want "true" classic, lets just go all the back to acient history when beserkers shit on kids. Yeah, that was the life. Man, these servers are about as classic as you get, it's good enough trust me.
-Classes are balanced. If you know how to play your class then you'll do well and have a good time. If you just wanna charge in arms flailing and limbs wiggling everywhere then youre prolly gonna die.
-Leveing is fun! Enjoy the times you have working with a group and clearing camps. It's fun to get to know people in the process. Why do you play MMO's if you don't want to interact with other people?
-Graphics are good but could be better. I'll give that DAoC does not have top of the line graphics, but atleast theyre not cartoony. There has been a great job done with implimenting new graphx and I think it looks really good, all the creatures are redone. Pets have been all redone and look fantastic. Most of the creatures you fight now look 10 times better then they did before.
Guys, come back and if give it a second try. Roll a new character and see what DAoC now has to offer, the classic servers are great. Do it for free with the 14 day trial. It's worth the time.
I totally agree with that, while I disagree with everything the OP said.
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