Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
Hehe, the entire development of War has been a "Blitzkrieg". War has only been in production for two years now, so I think they can make thier deadline since they have shown us how fast they really are
Expected Release: November 1st as per video game stores. although i doubt that this will actually be the day... AHEM: WoW..
Do you have a link?
Though I trust release dates from EB and other such stores about as much as I trust a lawyer defending a politican
Originally posted by tapeworm00
Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January.
The really weird thing is that although Age of Conan has an earlier release date but it seems we've been seeing less from that game than we have with WAR. We've already seen PvP scenarios in WAR being played in press conferences, have they released any footage of PvP Guild battles for Age of Conan yet? And I haven't seen screenshots of the AoC classes either compared to the all screenshots I've been seeing from WAR.
Of course, all that is not really fair to Funcom. EA Mythic is doing the most amazing job I've ever seen when it comes to inside-coverage of WAR. Podcasts, interviews, press meetings they've been all over the place!
It could be that Funcom is just following the more standard development mode and playing things close to their vests. I've never seen a company cover their game as well as EA Mythic has been doing and that may just give them impression that they're farther along than AoC.
Expected Release: November 1st as per video game stores. although i doubt that this will actually be the day... AHEM: WoW..
Actually no official release date has been published by EA Mythic. Its simply set tentatively at Q4 of 2007, game stores in order to begin taking pre orders usually assume that if its Q4 it'll be between october and december. Its a completely Random date they have to put into their system to help 'spur' pre orders. They haven't even begun external Beta Testing for the game yet for pete's sake.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
Conan is hard to figure out. They are still choping down classes and we have yet to see any signifigant about of news comming from them. I want an outpouring of news (I guess thats why Im a reporter) especially from a game I am waiting to play. No spells, no abilities just concepts and overviews. They sound like they are about the same as far as development to me.
According to what I was told. mythic devs HAVE the whole elven war already developed. They just have to release, balance and quest up the zones.
I would expect to closed beta (media devs and guilds) by beginning of summer with beta comming late summer. Not a quote, just a theory.
Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
Conan is hard to figure out. They are still choping down classes and we have yet to see any signifigant about of news comming from them. I want an outpouring of news (I guess thats why Im a reporter) especially from a game I am waiting to play. No spells, no abilities just concepts and overviews. They sound like they are about the same as far as development to me.
According to what I was told. mythic devs HAVE the whole elven war already developed. They just have to release, balance and quest up the zones.
I would expect to closed beta (media devs and guilds) by beginning of summer with beta comming late summer. Not a quote, just a theory.
I don't need any long term hype from a game. when they get within a month of release push info. Too much BS and drama queens worrying over not having information.
Nov 1st? I dont think so IT would be nice! But I cant see it happening
Actually I wouldn't mind if it did take until Jan or so 'till they released it. They've only been in dev for 2 years you know. I'd rather they spent a bit more time on the dev/tweaking side of things then releasing a small/unfinished game.
Playing - -- Played - AO, CoH/CoV, DDO, Eve, Guildwars, LOTRO, WoW. Waiting - For WAR, Fury.
Whats there really to tweak.the engine they use under license is fine.Class balance could be beta tested for 10 years and it will still need patched a month after release to actual players.Beta testers have proven to be way over rated and to sensitive to the dev's to be of more than limited use.Don't go by the news letter as a progress report.they are way ahead of that.Not sure what could hold it up not to release at the peak time holidays/winter.to get shelfspace first week of november is needed.
Originally posted by tapeworm00 Well that's better than "Q4 2007" anyway Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR,
And you wonder why your called a fanbois. You make unrealistic claims based on next to nothing.
Ive seen video after video of Warhammer. From the videos Ive watched of Warhammer Ive seen the graphics get better and the gameplay get smoother. I can go and watch Developer videos all day long of Warhammer.
"It's no good coming to our game if you are trying to grow weed, It's no good coming to our game if you want to make pants. It's only worth coming to our game if you want to burn things to the ground." -Paul Barnett, WAR is coming
to compare AoC release,to WAR.would be like comparing when your neighbor will get the car he has in pieces the last five years, ready vs ordering a new car from a dealership.
Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
Hehe, the entire development of War has been a "Blitzkrieg". War has only been in production for two years now, so I think they can make thier deadline since they have shown us how fast they really are The thing about AoC is that although you "think" that they're closer to release, have you seen a single PvP video? Or have you seen details on the casting system, other than in words? Or have you seen any videos about the Questing?
Sure they've shown someone walking around slashing at things with a sword, but they haven't shown anything else except that. So unless they're really keeping their assets close to them and showing next-to-nothing, we've seen more about WAR than we have about AoC.
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Well that's better than "Q4 2007" anyway Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR,
And you wonder why your called a fanbois.
You make unrealistic claims based on next to nothing.
Ive seen video after video of Warhammer.
From the videos Ive watched of Warhammer Ive seen the graphics get better and the gameplay get smoother. I can go and watch Developer videos all day long of Warhammer.
Can you say that for Age Of Conan?
I've tried finding AoC videos and from what I've been able to find, I can be done watching all the material in about an hour. WAR? It'll take me a couple days to go through all the videos of the game. And a good portion of those are actual, ingame footage shot by people who don't work for Mythic, EA or Games-Workshop.
Mythic developed DAoC in 2 years. I was a huge doubter of it, but as soon as I played the game I was hooked. It was a great game in 2001. It was fun, engaging, engrossing and it offered the potential for meaningful PvP. Not everything panned out as was planned, but some of my best MMO memories are of running around with my guild in Emain Macha and taking on groups of Mids and Hibs at level 30. It was a blast. And the first raid keep. Oi was it laggy and a slide show, but I still had an absolute blast. I'd never seen a PvP game that had so many people show up from 2 different sides and duke it out. We had probably 100 people per side right around Caer Sursbrooke. I look back on my time playing DAoC and it's very fond memories.
I look back on my time playing AO and it was a nightmare. I remember running around the cities and rubber banding for half an hour just to get 100 feet. I remember bugs and glitches in missions that caused me to fail. I remember my Agent taking nerf after nerf after nerf because I could transform myself into other classes and use their abilities. I remember Soldiers going from level 20 to 125 in a matter of days because of an exploit that wasn't fixed for weeks. I don't have the same kind of fond memories of AO that I do of other games.
I'm not saying AoC will be the same way. I'm just saying that by EA Mythic showing so much of the game as it's being developed shows they have a lot more faith in the game than Funcom has in not showing Age of Conan.
poster above me ,no one will understand the mythic secret it seems.They aren't inventing anything,the engine,the graphics apps,the world,the classes.already exist,there practically cut n pasting this together.honestly It can easily be done in 24 months,thats not an epic feat.
They still have to program in the animations, create the art, get it into the engine, put down all the objects in the world, program in the quests, the storylines, the sounds. It's not just a cut and paste thing. Just because they don't have to design the art style, engine, graphic apps doesn't mean there still isn't a lot of work that has to go into the game. There is a lot more to it than just cut and paste.
If that's all it took, then a lot more people would be MMO developers.
Didn't mean that literally(need my lawyer to finish my disclaimer sig).What I meant is they have every posible resource at thier disposal,and im sure as a side note compainies are pushing to reduce costs by using easier design tools so they can pay less.wouldn't be surprised if next gen games are out sourced to india.
It seems like AoC is almost ready for closed beta. And so will WAR when the time comes, just hang in there.
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poster above me ,no one will understand the mythic secret it seems.They aren't inventing anything,the engine,the graphics apps,the world,the classes.already exist,there practically cut n pasting this together.honestly It can easily be done in 24 months,thats not an epic feat.
Who cares? Honestly, when I look at the screen shots or the videos of WAR I don't ponder who the heck made it. If it's good it doesn't matter if Mythic made a deal with the devil to get it to the customers in a timely fashion. I'm not shopping for an MMO that was completely done "in house". If thats what you are shopping for then so be it, don't assume that it matters to the rest of us.
And in your earlier post you said a good comparison for AoC and WAR would be your neighbor building a car from scratch compared to you just going and buying a brand new one. Well there are a few flaws in that comparison. First, the more accurate comparison would be you wanting a car, and either waiting 5 years for someone to build it from scratch all on their own, or waiting one year for a company to provide you with a car filled with parts made all over the world and not just "in house". Which are you going to wait for? Which are you going to pay for? Secondly, how many people care about whether or not the computer game they are playing was completely built "in house"?
In this market (gaming/MMO) if you hype up a game and then take too long to produce it, you fail. You either run out of hype and lose potential customers, or you take too long to produce code and you lose money too quickly by having to pay developers to work on a game that you thought would already be making you money. AoC is not helping their case by keeping everything to themselves. EA Mythic is doing an awesome job keeping the hype up. Every month there is a newsletter with new screen shots, videos, zone information, interview details, beta giveaways and more. They are setting an example of how to keep the community hyped about your game and keep them interested and wanting more.
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Age of Conan is supposed to come out on October, and by just looking at all the information available, it's a lot closer to completion than WAR, so, comparing the development time and all that, I'd say WAR is coming till December or January. That is, unless they Blitzkrieg through the development of the Elves, which is a possibility, and it comes out near the tentative release you're giving
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Do you have a link?
Though I trust release dates from EB and other such stores about as much as I trust a lawyer defending a politican
The really weird thing is that although Age of Conan has an earlier release date but it seems we've been seeing less from that game than we have with WAR. We've already seen PvP scenarios in WAR being played in press conferences, have they released any footage of PvP Guild battles for Age of Conan yet? And I haven't seen screenshots of the AoC classes either compared to the all screenshots I've been seeing from WAR.
Of course, all that is not really fair to Funcom. EA Mythic is doing the most amazing job I've ever seen when it comes to inside-coverage of WAR. Podcasts, interviews, press meetings they've been all over the place!
It could be that Funcom is just following the more standard development mode and playing things close to their vests. I've never seen a company cover their game as well as EA Mythic has been doing and that may just give them impression that they're farther along than AoC.
Actually no official release date has been published by EA Mythic. Its simply set tentatively at Q4 of 2007, game stores in order to begin taking pre orders usually assume that if its Q4 it'll be between october and december. Its a completely Random date they have to put into their system to help 'spur' pre orders. They haven't even begun external Beta Testing for the game yet for pete's sake.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Conan is hard to figure out. They are still choping down classes and we have yet to see any signifigant about of news comming from them. I want an outpouring of news (I guess thats why Im a reporter) especially from a game I am waiting to play. No spells, no abilities just concepts and overviews. They sound like they are about the same as far as development to me.
According to what I was told. mythic devs HAVE the whole elven war already developed. They just have to release, balance and quest up the zones.
I would expect to closed beta (media devs and guilds) by beginning of summer with beta comming late summer. Not a quote, just a theory.
Conan is hard to figure out. They are still choping down classes and we have yet to see any signifigant about of news comming from them. I want an outpouring of news (I guess thats why Im a reporter) especially from a game I am waiting to play. No spells, no abilities just concepts and overviews. They sound like they are about the same as far as development to me.
According to what I was told. mythic devs HAVE the whole elven war already developed. They just have to release, balance and quest up the zones.
I would expect to closed beta (media devs and guilds) by beginning of summer with beta comming late summer. Not a quote, just a theory.
I don't need any long term hype from a game. when they get within a month of release push info. Too much BS and drama queens worrying over not having information.
1) EA the largest game company in the world
2)Gamebryo 2.2 engine on license from emergent technologies,which has more resources than all of funcom and old Mythic combined.
www.emergent.net/index.php/homepage/products-and-services/gamebryo/gamebryo-engine
AoC is trying to revamp its old in house engine it used for Anarchy Online.
Nov 1st? I dont think so IT would be nice! But I cant see it happening
Actually I wouldn't mind if it did take until Jan or so 'till they released it. They've only been in dev for 2 years you know. I'd rather they spent a bit more time on the dev/tweaking side of things then releasing a small/unfinished game.
Playing - --
Played - AO, CoH/CoV, DDO, Eve, Guildwars, LOTRO, WoW.
Waiting - For WAR, Fury.
And you wonder why your called a fanbois.
You make unrealistic claims based on next to nothing.
Ive seen video after video of Warhammer.
From the videos Ive watched of Warhammer Ive seen the graphics get better and the gameplay get smoother. I can go and watch Developer videos all day long of Warhammer.
Can you say that for Age Of Conan?
"It's no good coming to our game if you are trying to grow weed, It's no good coming to our game if you want to make pants. It's only worth coming to our game if you want to burn things to the ground."
-Paul Barnett, WAR is coming
to compare AoC release,to WAR.would be like comparing when your neighbor will get the car he has in pieces the last five years, ready vs ordering a new car from a dealership.
Sure they've shown someone walking around slashing at things with a sword, but they haven't shown anything else except that. So unless they're really keeping their assets close to them and showing next-to-nothing, we've seen more about WAR than we have about AoC.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
And you wonder why your called a fanbois.
You make unrealistic claims based on next to nothing.
Ive seen video after video of Warhammer.
From the videos Ive watched of Warhammer Ive seen the graphics get better and the gameplay get smoother. I can go and watch Developer videos all day long of Warhammer.
I've tried finding AoC videos and from what I've been able to find, I can be done watching all the material in about an hour. WAR? It'll take me a couple days to go through all the videos of the game. And a good portion of those are actual, ingame footage shot by people who don't work for Mythic, EA or Games-Workshop.Can you say that for Age Of Conan?
Mythic developed DAoC in 2 years. I was a huge doubter of it, but as soon as I played the game I was hooked. It was a great game in 2001. It was fun, engaging, engrossing and it offered the potential for meaningful PvP. Not everything panned out as was planned, but some of my best MMO memories are of running around with my guild in Emain Macha and taking on groups of Mids and Hibs at level 30. It was a blast. And the first raid keep. Oi was it laggy and a slide show, but I still had an absolute blast. I'd never seen a PvP game that had so many people show up from 2 different sides and duke it out. We had probably 100 people per side right around Caer Sursbrooke. I look back on my time playing DAoC and it's very fond memories.
I look back on my time playing AO and it was a nightmare. I remember running around the cities and rubber banding for half an hour just to get 100 feet. I remember bugs and glitches in missions that caused me to fail. I remember my Agent taking nerf after nerf after nerf because I could transform myself into other classes and use their abilities. I remember Soldiers going from level 20 to 125 in a matter of days because of an exploit that wasn't fixed for weeks. I don't have the same kind of fond memories of AO that I do of other games.
I'm not saying AoC will be the same way. I'm just saying that by EA Mythic showing so much of the game as it's being developed shows they have a lot more faith in the game than Funcom has in not showing Age of Conan.
If that's all it took, then a lot more people would be MMO developers.
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Both games will come when they come:)
It seems like AoC is almost ready for closed beta. And so will WAR when the time comes, just hang in there.
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day when he said..Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?...No, but i served in a company of heroes"
Sgt. Mike Ranney E-company 506PIR 101'st airborn
ITs accually suppse to come out 12/03/07 so there for beta should come out in the summer! yay!
Games played:
WOW: 70 mage,60 mage, 61 shammy, 65 warrior
COX: lvl 35 scrapper lvl 20 MM
Guildwars: 20 w/m
LOTRO BETA: lvl 32 Dwarf guardian/ 15 hunter
Currently playing: Battlefield 2142
Waiting on WAR/AOC
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And in your earlier post you said a good comparison for AoC and WAR would be your neighbor building a car from scratch compared to you just going and buying a brand new one. Well there are a few flaws in that comparison. First, the more accurate comparison would be you wanting a car, and either waiting 5 years for someone to build it from scratch all on their own, or waiting one year for a company to provide you with a car filled with parts made all over the world and not just "in house". Which are you going to wait for? Which are you going to pay for? Secondly, how many people care about whether or not the computer game they are playing was completely built "in house"?
In this market (gaming/MMO) if you hype up a game and then take too long to produce it, you fail. You either run out of hype and lose potential customers, or you take too long to produce code and you lose money too quickly by having to pay developers to work on a game that you thought would already be making you money. AoC is not helping their case by keeping everything to themselves. EA Mythic is doing an awesome job keeping the hype up. Every month there is a newsletter with new screen shots, videos, zone information, interview details, beta giveaways and more. They are setting an example of how to keep the community hyped about your game and keep them interested and wanting more.