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Why did you quit Eve online?

crustynutscrustynuts Member Posts: 22
I see a thread about why people still play, so here is one to express why people don't play.



Keep it civil and no trolling by the regular trolls.
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  • darkcircuitdarkcircuit Member Posts: 211
    I started playing the 14 day trial and has every intention of subscribing until I got halfway through the tutorial. I tried to find out where the tutorial wanted me to go next and it appeared to be bugged as no matter what I did I couldn't progress any further (don't ask what part I was on it was too long ago).



    I decided to quit the tutorial and go it alone; this was probably my biggest mistake. I found a couple of friendily people in the game but they had no time for me and instead chucked money at me and gave me poor advice. I spent a few days just learning skills so I could spend the money they gave me to get a good ship. First thing I did with my 'uber' ship was to fly off in search of missions and next thing you know I'm in my escape pod cos of some ganker. Ship gone, all my money gone. my will to play gone, quit!
  • BloodwireBloodwire Member Posts: 4
    I played eve for about 6 weeks last year. It started out nice enough with being amazed at the cool gfx and interresting leveling system. But then I realized that I'm this big -> . and the old timer are this big -> [ insert picture of mount everest here ]. And it wouldn't really be possible to reach their level fast because the level system was time based/automatic (you don't grind, you just train and log off or do whatever you want) so it would take like a year to reach their level. Whereas in other MMORPG it would be sufficient to just sit down and kill the same mob over and over and over and over and over.



    Then you have the mission, pickup and bring X item from a to b and c and d. It took bloody forever and I recall sitting there just watching my autopilot fly a lot more than playing the game. Sure the NPC hunt missions were cool enough, but it was a bit too much of having the right gear and attacking them from the right angle (like pulling in other MMORPGs)



    So, after getting tired of all of that I decided to close my account.
  • ArcticblueArcticblue Member Posts: 270

    Took lying game management but that is not entire truth... facts are that it is a combination about lying to the customers, cheating and poorly executed rules on how to behave on such things.

    For example they banned Kuguts for exposing SirMolle's real life information and rightfully so .. however they did NOT ban SirMolle for the same crimes ... and there are a series of such things ... latest but then I had already quitted ... but latest is where they have banned several RA pilots for using a exploit and well honestly that is okey by me, however they have not banned BoB/pet's pilot for using a exploit (thinking of this complex thing)... and they even have made some exploit like Nodecrashing into a game feature....

  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Arcticblue


    Took lying game management but that is not entire truth... facts are that it is a combination about lying to the customers, cheating and poorly executed rules on how to behave on such things.
    For example they banned Kuguts for exposing SirMolle's real life information and rightfully so .. however they did NOT ban SirMolle for the same crimes When Sir Mole Did it KUG wasant a member of eve becaue he was banned so he wasant protected by the EULA... and there are a series of such things ... latest but then I had already quitted ... but latest is where they have banned several RA pilots for using a exploit and well honestly that is okey by me, however they have not banned BoB/pet's pilot for using a exploit (thinking of this complex thing)... and they even have made some exploit like Nodecrashing into a game feature There is no nodecrashing exploit but go on keep on listening to the Tinfoil hatters they dont even play eve yet they just need to hear a rumour to build a mountain of a conspiracy.....



    Its a shame this poll isant as good as mine was because it had a option for those who just wanted to see the results...bet it would have been interesting.

    Nehterless i tjhink ill just leave this thread for now as its one for the Conspiracy nuts and those who had a genuine reason to leave eve.

    To those leaving EvE sorry to see you go i hope you find a game you enjoy.

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  • Gr4dientGr4dient Member Posts: 59

    I said other - cause the main reason I quit Eve is that it is has been left behind by other MMOs.  The graphics look dull, the interface is naff (right click in combat, ha ha) and there are so many niggles (drones for example).

    T20 did me a favour, it made me look around.

    Currently playing LOTRO.

     

  • ArcticblueArcticblue Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Arcticblue


    Took lying game management but that is not entire truth... facts are that it is a combination about lying to the customers, cheating and poorly executed rules on how to behave on such things.
    For example they banned Kuguts for exposing SirMolle's real life information and rightfully so .. however they did NOT ban SirMolle for the same crimes When Sir Mole Did it KUG wasant a member of eve becaue he was banned so he wasant protected by the EULA... and there are a series of such things ... latest but then I had already quitted ... but latest is where they have banned several RA pilots for using a exploit and well honestly that is okey by me, however they have not banned BoB/pet's pilot for using a exploit (thinking of this complex thing)... and they even have made some exploit like Nodecrashing into a game feature There is no nodecrashing exploit but go on keep on listening to the Tinfoil hatters they dont even play eve yet they just need to hear a rumour to build a mountain of a conspiracy.....



    Its a shame this poll isant as good as mine was because it had a option for those who just wanted to see the results...bet it would have been interesting.

    Nehterless i tjhink ill just leave this thread for now as its one for the Conspiracy nuts and those who had a genuine reason to leave eve.

    To those leaving EvE sorry to see you go i hope you find a game you enjoy.



    It does not matter if Kug was not a member of EVE, SirMolle still broke the EULA by posting real life information about Kug, this because Sirmolle was and still is a member of EVE community.

    I quote from the EULA:

    "6.7. When submitting any comments in any form to the Web Site, whether it be via chat services, bulletin board services, customer feedback email, or the like you, are solely responsible for the content of any comments you make. You agree that no comments submitted by you to the Web Site will:

     

    • I violate any right of any third party, including but not limited to copyright, trademark, privacy, or other personal or proprietary rights;

       

    • II be libelous or contain libelous or other otherwise unlawful, abusive, or obscene material, or constitute the misappropriation of trade secrets of any third party;

       

    • III disparage the products or services of any third party; or

       

    • IV contain any personal information (other than your email address or user name). "

    and I ask you to note point IV... and 6.7 state... "You agree that no comments submitted b y YOU to teh web site will Contain any personal information (other than your email address or user name)."

    So SirMolle DID infact break the EULA by posting real life information about Kug on the site.

    And the facts are there that BoB have used nodecrashing as a feature and even other corps like Goonswarm and other have also used this now as a feature but BoB was first.

    There is lots of thread about how they work to be among the first to log in after the nodes are back up, funny that BoB have been so lucky to be first back online after a nodecrash is it not ?

    I admit that for CCP it would be very difficult if not impossible to investigate this and prove it but as of now that have become more a feature than a exploit.

     

  • macumbabrmacumbabr Member Posts: 76

    My will to play start to vanish when i started to have some lag at fights making me lost some (3 i think) ships. i tried to give another chance because my skills were high so i could use some cool things. then i bought i heavy missile launcher with widowmaker missiles that gave less damage than the worst missile at real fights, while on teory the damage was enormous so my will to play has vanished completely along with the will to pay so high in a month to play, so maybe in a future if my will come back with a lot of money to pay then i come back

    IF PUSHED KILLING IS AS EASY AS BREATHING

  • PhelanLPhelanL Member Posts: 99
    Other... I didn't quit, but I wanted to see the pole results.

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  • NicoliNicoli Member Posts: 1,312
    Originally posted by macumbabr


    My will to play start to vanish when i started to have some lag at fights making me lost some (3 i think) ships. i tried to give another chance because my skills were high so i could use some cool things. then i bought i heavy missile launcher with widowmaker missiles that gave less damage than the worst missile at real fights, while on teory the damage was enormous so my will to play has vanished completely along with the will to pay so high in a month to play, so maybe in a future if my will come back with a lot of money to pay then i come back
    just for future note,  A little research into missles and combat in general and you would have either expected that or bought different ammo. First larger missles due lesss damage since they are not designed to hit small/fast ships. Second your opponents resists is also important. If they are resisting heavily on thermal damage then your widowmakers are going to do little to nothing.
  • NowViewingNowViewing Member Posts: 2

    After 8 months of playing eve i will be quitting as soon as a find a non-wow alternative (and i have been looking for a while now). I am quitting because this game just takes too long and the only people who are having fun with it are those that have been playing for at least 2 years. If u train for pvp (pretty much the only reason to choose eve imo)  then it will take u a year or more just to be competitive and that is if u only skill toward pvp and specific ships. If u choose to skill a bit of everything then u will end up waiting one hell of a long time just to be competant at anything. I regret playing eve and have basically thrown my money away for very few memorable moments and I played the first 5 months afk just skilling because i didnt feel like getting pwned all the time and npc hunting is insanely boring. If you are thinking to start to play eve then just DONT. The whole reason I play mmos is to play with people and do something in a group but with eve it is very self-oriented except in the better corporations which are populated by 4 yr old characters. If u have the stomach to mine and npc for a year and a half or more before u start to do the fun stuff then go for it. Be aware that protecting yourself from ganking pirates and uber blobs of 50 ppl when you are young (and in game money means more) will lead to you being called a cearbear by people who have been playing longer, have more skill pointe, more money and a better corporation behind them. If you determinedly try not to be a carebear then go ahead and try to fight a few people get blown up and suck it up. Oh the community is lame and there is loads of cheating and exploiting going on.

    People will respond to this by telling me how eve is balanced so you can get a skill to 4 and it is almost as good as having it at 5 and there is only a slight disadvantage but this is the biggest load of crap you will ever hear about in eve. The number of sp you have will dictate whether you are likely to win or not 90% of the time provided both people choose fittings which are suitable. Other than that eve is great.

  • trajan22trajan22 Member Posts: 91
    i generally play EVE for about six months, grow bored and quit.  after about a year i grow bored of the other games i have and decide pick up EVE again.  then i play for about six months grow bored and quit.  rinse and repeat.



    i'll probably pick it back up again in  another six months or so.  depends on how much time i dedicate to AoC.
  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546

    I think the pvp / fleet battles are awesome, but the road to get to that point is a drag. Its awfull. The PvE is one of the most repetitive I've ever seen. I guess thats mainly because its space. It pretty much looks all the same.

    I've quit. Too bad.

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  • IthurielIthuriel Member CommonPosts: 179
    I quit around 5 months back so I could finally submit and go play WoW with a bunch of guys I used to play SWG with back in the day.  Obviously, all this T20 or whatever stuff hadn't happened yet, and I had always had good experiences with CCP staff when I dealt with them.  I played for like a total of 8 months or so, and had fun, but just felt like it was time to move on.  My corp kind of started falling apart, and it started to feel almost like a single player game rather than mmo at some points.  I knew I'd never compare skill point wise with those who had been playing for 2-3 years or so, but that didn't bother me.  I focused on a specific skill path and became very good at what I did.  Only game I ever bought a 2nd account for too.  Overall, I have no problems with EVE, and it's sad for me to see that a game I enjoyed so much has hit such a rocky period lately.
  • NaazirNaazir Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by crustynuts

    I see a thread about why people still play, so here is one to express why people don't play.



    Keep it civil and no trolling by the regular trolls.
    I gave Eve Online a shot twice so far. I keep reading the hype about it and get sucked in, only to find it doesn't offer me too much in an MMO (personally). The graphics are of course beautiful, no joke there. The problems are (for me anyway):



    - I like to have a toon to run around with. When I played Earth and Beyond, you could exit your ship and run around inside space stations. Much more personal feeling when you can see yourself as well as others, not just a ship with guns pointed at you.



    -Sitting in a cargo bay clicking a few things here and there to "manufacture" takes a lot away from the process. You don't DO anything, you don't SEE anything.



    -Buying items like ships, materials, weapons, upgrades... boooooring! Anything you find at a cheap price to buy or a high price to sell tends to be 3-15 jumps away! Autopilot is handy, but dude, that's a LOT of time spent doing nothing but watching the pretty lights go by... a LOT of time...



    I'd have to say the biggest thing that caused me to leave each time was the time spent getting anywhere, with the inability to EVER leave my ship running a close second. I never lasted long enough to do any PvP, but PvE was always, well, fun at first then repetitive and not so much fun any more. Mining for ore to try and make some money was, well, interesting at first then extremely repetitive and boring.



    So besides repetitive and boring mining, PvE fighting, flying from station to station to buy/sell and the inability to leave the ship and stretch the stiffness out of my legs , if all Eve has to offer for fun and excitement is great graphics and the PvP battles I never got around to because I never was able to play long enough to have a ship worthy enough (imo), what's to keep me?



    -Naaz.
  • EschiavaEschiava Member Posts: 485
    I chose other.



    The fact is, I still love EVE and would be playing still if not for technical reasons.



    I find that PvP, if near a station or if the engagement is too large will lag my system to the point where I am totally unable to defend myself.  If I find myself in one of these situations it means the automatic and inevitable loss of my ship.



    Since the only way to avoid these kinds of situations, for the most part anyway, is to remain in high sec, and since I am not willing to limit myself that way, my only choice is to find my PvP elsewhere.  Currnetly, that means Guild Wars.



    I do plan to upgrade my computer with both graphics and memory at some point, most likely I will return at that time to see if my situation is improved.  Until then, sadly, I will avoid EVE in order to avoid the frustration of the LAG MONSTER.



    ~e~
  • afroburzingafroburzing Member Posts: 71
    didn't really quit just was bored of the game for a long time, eve will still remain the best mmo and ill be back soon as i have too much time and effort invested into it just to drop it altogether
  • JetrpgJetrpg Member UncommonPosts: 2,347
    Originally posted by NowViewing


    After 8 months of playing eve i will be quitting as soon as a find a non-wow alternative (and i have been looking for a while now). I am quitting because this game just takes too long and the only people who are having fun with it are those that have been playing for at least 2 years. If u train for pvp (pretty much the only reason to choose eve imo)  then it will take u a year or more just to be competitive and that is if u only skill toward pvp and specific ships. If u choose to skill a bit of everything then u will end up waiting one hell of a long time just to be competant at anything. I regret playing eve and have basically thrown my money away for very few memorable moments and I played the first 5 months afk just skilling because i didnt feel like getting pwned all the time and npc hunting is insanely boring. If you are thinking to start to play eve then just DONT. The whole reason I play mmos is to play with people and do something in a group but with eve it is very self-oriented except in the better corporations which are populated by 4 yr old characters. If u have the stomach to mine and npc for a year and a half or more before u start to do the fun stuff then go for it. Be aware that protecting yourself from ganking pirates and uber blobs of 50 ppl when you are young (and in game money means more) will lead to you being called a cearbear by people who have been playing longer, have more skill pointe, more money and a better corporation behind them. If you determinedly try not to be a carebear then go ahead and try to fight a few people get blown up and suck it up. Oh the community is lame and there is loads of cheating and exploiting going on.
    People will respond to this by telling me how eve is balanced so you can get a skill to 4 and it is almost as good as having it at 5 and there is only a slight disadvantage but this is the biggest load of crap you will ever hear about in eve. The number of sp you have will dictate whether you are likely to win or not 90% of the time provided both people choose fittings which are suitable. Other than that eve is great.

    I just used a trail account to pvp quite well ... rofl 10 days of trainign and i have pvp ability and it takes you what 2 years... that is sad.

    Really , pvp is amazing see pvp rquires small ships to a certian degree to tackle and scram. few days of trainign and you can make a rifter fit this role very well. As for doign damage it does take a but to get up to the ability to fly BS, which are great tanks and damage dealers , but cruisers and bc fit right into the dps aspect of eve becuase of their speed, and or their ability to hurt small ships , that are locking down big ships better.

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  • TimberhickTimberhick Member UncommonPosts: 554
    roflmao, 10 days and pvping.  yeah right with da kiddies perhaps.



    eve got way to boring about day 1.  At day 364 I realized I had spent like a total of maybe 20hours in game.



    eve blows
  • NazarosNazaros Member Posts: 215
    Originally posted by Timberhick

    roflmao, 10 days and pvping.  yeah right with da kiddies perhaps.



    eve got way to boring about day 1.  At day 364 I realized I had spent like a total of maybe 20hours in game.



    eve blows

    QFT

    A game that can't catch my attention in the first few hours simply fail at life. I was so bored with EvE after playing 2 hours that i trashed the game and never looked back... It's not as much the "not friendly to noob", rather then "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." the whole time. Doing nothing but messing with my interface and traveling for 2 hours was a complete boredom, and i couldn't see myself getting engrossed in a game where most of the action seem to be in a long time ago... In a galaxy far, far away from here.....

    What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...

  • crustynutscrustynuts Member Posts: 22
    Wow.



    Glad I read the forums from a few sites and asked for opinions here. Seems the cheating is the major reason people are quiting, but the grind, which I quess leads to the boredom factor, is really close behind.



    I'll be looking to another game. Bad enough with the grind, but the smugness of the company running the game, and the "fanboi" types in relation to the cheating, sure pushed me away regardless.



    I read the Eve-Online forums, and they have anything related to the cheating buried, and when I asked about it in general discussion, the post was deleted, and I was banned.



    Thumds down for this game.



    Maybe StarTrek will be the ticket.
  • DrafellDrafell Member Posts: 588

    I think both the PvP and the skill system are horrendously imbalanced. PvP requires too much 'downtime' to maintain, IE you have to dedicate a lot of time to maintaining your income to keep paying for ships.

    The skill system makes a reasonable kind of sense for the acquired trade skills and other management based skills, but anything that affects your competitiveness in combat should not be included. The two tiered skill + equipment system inherently balances this in favour of the oldest players regardless or personal piloting skill.

  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    The real fun part of the game, the PvP and the community, couldn't outweigh the letdowns like hard-boiled grind excess and complete lack of narrative PvE content. The latter finally sealed the deal, I just need a game where there IS lore and story besides players and one column generic mission hub talkboxes...
  • cityzencityzen Member CommonPosts: 313

    Didn't like the whole idea of progressing skills while not even logged in, kind of defeats the purpose of playing the game to me. Sure getting ganked sucks, but when doesn't it? Never happened that often to make me want to quit. I never understood the whole argument that a newb can never compete with a veteran, isn't that true for most games? You can catch up eventually. I think CCP has done the right things to come back from the recent company problems.

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  • lordabbadonlordabbadon Member Posts: 68
    well 18th april and today i got banned for posting a very fun movie about bob and their cheating. well the movie wasnt even mine i just posted it and not i can enjoy the forum ban by ISD.
  • RAF-doodRAF-dood Member Posts: 65
    Link it.
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