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Firefly, Warhammer 40K, and World of Darkness...The last hope?
Realm-Reaper
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Possibly the last hope we have....
As you know, right now we are in the DARK AGE of MMORPGs. Games like WoW and the FPS mmo craze have set an industry standard that almost everyone wants to achieve. As a result, everything coming to market over the next few years in going to Suck! Hardcore gamers are not going to be happy with the outcome. When I look at the up coming releases I see few games that intrest me. In fact only one will make my list this year...WAR ONLINE. However, the fact that it is not a sandbox game will make it difficult for me to play long term. Here are the games I wont be playing...
Age of Conan...why? because of that silly "clicky" like combat system. I hate it!
Fallen Earth...why?...it's FPS and clicky, clicky, NGE combat. I hate that!
Pirates of the burning sea...No ship interiors, stat items, strange crafting system and no sandbox...but I may give this one a second look.
Anyhow, I can see a few games on the DISTANT horizon that have peaked my interest.
* Firefly Online * why.....It is rumored that Raph Kopster is going to be the lead developer on the project. Anyone who knows his work will tell you, "This guy knows what the hell people want". We can only hope he takes the lead on this project. Also, it's a cool SCI-FI franchise that will have little trouble adapting to a MMORPG timeline because of the lack of history with the series and movie.
* Warhammer 40K Online * This one is special and will most likley come to market first. EA Mythic and Games workshop will combine efforts to bring this game to life in a way never before seen. We can only hope that it will have a sandbox element to it. But, if they implement that cutting edge PVP / RVR system into 40k...It could be one of the best ever. Plus it's Sci-Fi...something the MMORPG market needs badly ATM.
* World of Darkness * From the people that brought you EVE in conjunction with White Wolf, WoD is going to be by far the most "Adult" MMORPG to date. Also a SANDBOX game, WOD will bring violence and gore not yet seen in current MMORPGs. Many of the details still are not clear but it has been said that it will rival SWG pre-CU in many ways and employ new technologies never before seen in MMORPGs to bring this game to life. Regardless....it is safe to say that this will be the first MMORPG aimed at the Adult Market (NO THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL BE PORNOGRAPHIC)
Each of these games are being developed by companies that are Experienced, Well Funded and have a proven track record of success. It's this and many other reasons why these games are on my Radar. I know they are years away...but it is never too early to get involved with the community...Family is everything in MMORPGs...lol!
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C) I have nothing to say. But I pray that CCP sticks with their working model of making everything inhouse. If they liscense somebody elses's technology I'm off the badwagon.
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
Relic and EA (OR Mythic) have very different views on gaming. I'm not sure that would be the best bond. Relic has made it a point to never publish anything through EA, I doubt they'll start now.
(...I might be wrong... never know...)
I hope they keep it real. Watching CCP bow to programmers outside their own code would be a shame... companies should be "We can do it better" not "We can do it better while using somebody else's technology!"
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
I'd like to see a link to this? EA is a corporation I think the last thing they'd plan to do is help a competitor with their game. The none indie industry is NOT friendly in that way at all. Unless Relic has suddenly come under the EA name EA Mythic won't be assisting anyone with a game that'll directly compete with their own. If they plan to I personally as a programmer think they're out of their minds.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
sorry, I didnt even read the body of this post.. just the bold
but i already know I agree with the OP. Im sick of fantasy MMO's also. Someone..for the love of god come out with something original that doesnt involve dwarves, elves and gnomes fighting with swords
oh..and if I could add a wish to this?
Rifts
or
Planescape
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
I'd like to see a link to this? EA is a corporation I think the last thing they'd plan to do is help a competitor with their game. The none indie industry is NOT friendly in that way at all. Unless Relic has suddenly come under the EA name EA Mythic won't be assisting anyone with a game that'll directly compete with their own. If they plan to I personally as a programmer think they're out of their minds.
It is my understanding that EAM will be publishing this game much in the same way they are for WAR...I will try to find the link.
Only thing ill say is to wait for games to be released, try them and then make a decision on wether you like it or not. Disregarding a game before its even out isnt something an MMO player should do imo.....some of the things mentioned may not appeal to you, but games barely ever go by that book. Dont discard AoC yet...when its out give it a try if its got a trial it may be something you like, same for many of the other MMOs you listed.
I for one can never say ill dislike a game even if i hear things i normally wouldnt like. Games are about the experience and enjoyments and who knows? maybe a gameplay mechanic you dont like can be made in such a way that will get you to like it. At some point we all try things we dont like and then forever on we dislike it, until someone gets it right and we change our minds.
I agree that the choices of games atm seem like crap and that the future looks bleak but as a gamer we you should be excited that there are many promising titles scheduled this year. Some may flop, some may be great but youll never know if youll like em or not till you try em.
Wasn't it THQ that made the announcement that it was publishing this, and Vigil Studios Developing?
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Agree...
I think MV is begging him to come on board with the FIREFLY project. We can only hope he accepts!
World of Warcraft is a proof that MMORPG quality should affect schedule/budget and not the other way around.
2) THQ has announced the game and not made by Relic, but by Vigil games, a new company with veterans of the MMO industry. EA and Mythic HAVE NOTHING TO DO with this project and THQ will be publishing it. A punch in the teeth and kick in the balls to Mythic, if you ask me, but we will see.. We do not have anything solid yet about this.
3) CCP and World of Darkness are great names (the new world of darkness, however, is not as well known as the old one by videogamers that do not play P&P).
You know what these 3 have in common? that's right. lot of potential, no concrete. They all could turn out excellent games as the names and the skills are there (but for vigil games, supposedly ex-ncsoft devs but that could mean anything).
but they are all in a galaxy faaaaar faaaaar away, a loooong time in the future. I think it would be better to concetrate on the coming titles.
war? Tabula Rasa? Age of conan? Star trek online? Stargate worlds?more? don't be so negative! the future is here! What would make those titles different from there? that is right. nothing beside the fact you know nothing of those vapor titles and so you can build all kind of lofty expectations that WILL be torn down.
The more present titles are more concrete, you cannot build much on them because you know what there is and what there isn't in them but this process will go on and on and on and on.
in 2012 we will be about to have those games come out and what? you will be with glittering eyes looking to, dunno, Doctor WHO Online?
Live now! Carpe Diem! ec etc.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Imo, this isn't the dark age of MMORPG's. this is the GOLDEN age of MMORPG's, 2007 is the year of MMO gaming.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Have tried a couple of mmo (EQ2, COH etc...)after i left WoW (10 months) and none of them can keep my attention any more.... Dont noe even isit im bored of mmo in general...
RIP Orc Choppa
Why does everyone think firefly is so great, It was canceled cause it sucked and no one watched it... I watched the movie which was suppose to be based on the series and i thought it was horrible...
MMO for tiny niche fanbase that may or may not even play MMO's = VAPORWARE
That's EXACTLY why I am not paying any attention to Age of Conan-- I already know I have crappy dexterity and reflexes. I'd go play Planetside if I wanted to prove I can't hit the broad side of a barn.
I would rather play a game that relies on strategy planned around my character's skills than one that relies on *my* physical skills. First of all, I am not the one in the game world. My character is. Who I am is irrelevant. Second of all... why even try something I am pretty sure I'd suck at?
I'm a klutz. That's life.
I'd say I'm with the OP, except I am not looking forward to any of those games either. I'll just rotate around older games for a little while longer. Kinda going off of video games altogether. The entertainment value is dropping off sharply across the board for me, personally. It's nothing wrong with the games. It's something right with me.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
That's EXACTLY why I am not paying any attention to Age of Conan-- I already know I have crappy dexterity and reflexes. I'd go play Planetside if I wanted to prove I can't hit the broad side of a barn.
I would rather play a game that relies on strategy planned around my character's skills than one that relies on *my* physical skills. First of all, I am not the one in the game world. My character is. Who I am is irrelevant. Second of all... why even try something I am pretty sure I'd suck at?
I'm a klutz. That's life.
I'd say I'm with the OP, except I am not looking forward to any of those games either. I'll just rotate around older games for a little while longer. Kinda going off of video games altogether. The entertainment value is dropping off sharply across the board for me, personally. It's nothing wrong with the games. It's something right with me.
That alright. Just know that Conan will require just as much strategy and planning, if not more because of some of the new features. You still plan your strategy around your characters skill and items. But being fast will give you an edge.
But again, if you don't like that type of combat then you shouldn't play it. I just don't like the OPs tone, like an objective analysis would deduct it's some sort of crap system(perhaps I'm reading too much into it...)
- How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
- I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?
Spacetravel problems? Nah, SWG/EvE managed this without much fuss.
Problems incorporating the reaver storyline? Depends on the timeline they choose but im betting it would be after Serenity in a time when everyone knows what Reavers are and the Alliance is rocking. The only thing that changed was people now know where reavers came from, thats about it.
Thankfully Firefly is not a major title like LOTR or Star Wars so it might escape the dreaded cookie cutter of doom that claimed Vanguard, LOTRO, EQ2 etc.
Either way, gonna be shiney
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy