worst - Anarchy Online: Shadowlands - this is the worst freaking expansion ever, it freaking ruined the game. It turned the game into 180+lvls of killing the same damn monster over and over again in different zones. Great job funcom, REALLY great damn job. If you are too lazy to come up with better content than killing hecklers for 180 lvls then you really should give up on the damn game.
ps - yes i know you can lvl other than off of hecklers, but EVERYONE wants to just grind them, so they completely screwed over the teaming fun in the game.
I might have a different perpsecitve than someone who started from the beginning. I was a froob that decided to buy the game, and was blown away by how much better it was when I got Shadowlands. It was like a whole 'nother game. Yeah, hecklers were a mistake but you can't focus on them. The game was based on grinding anways. But, most people did team up for hecklers and not everyone had a "pocket doc". If you didn't powerlevel off hecks you could really see how big the expansion really was. I wish I didnt have to team up, so I could see all the content freely.
Shadowlands had the most immersive, original and just omgwtf storyline and quests, no MMO has better. Between the setting and dialogue I've never played a more immersive game. Its the only MMO I've played where I wanted to know what was going on, and wasn't bored by the monotony of the kill or courier quest format. Don't forget it also had perks and perfect loot (not too uber, not too useless). I wish other MMO's would had a perk system, instead of the worthless cosmetic fluff that everyone equates to customization these days.
As for theworst expansion ever - City of Villains
(Planetside comes close but at least it was 100% new stuff)
CoV was like 40% new and 60% spun off old content. They charged $50 for it like its a new game. CoV segregated the players between good and evil and brought in a bunch of retards. CoH used to be the best game for pick up groups. (Good old fashioned co-op pve). The community was nice, varied, and family-friendly. Now there's only min-maxing "flavor of the month" pvp kiddies, and fanboys so delusional they'd put the "vanboys" to shame.
I think the best expansion in an online game has been Chronicle 4 in Lineage2. It added tons of content (mostly high end) that *complemented perfectly what already was in the game*. The olimpiad, heroes, valakas, two new castles and new high level zones, a few more leves and many more skills... it was a very balanced and welcomed expansion. While Chronicle 5 was more of a low level content expansion, also very welcome. On the other hand, the last L2 expansion (Interlude) is a bit of a let down (for example, they promised conquerable fortresses that have been delayed for next xpac.)
If I had to choose a bad expansion, I could name a whole lot. But I choose The Burning Crusade (WoW). It isn't game-breaking, but it has one major flaw: it makes previous content *useless*. So, it adds new content and continues in the same line, but once you consider that much of the old high-end content is not anymore used by anyone (with the exception of the battlegrounds, sadly they are not able to make new maps for the same games), the whole picture of the expansion is very sad. They are able to make heroic modes for the new instances, but not for the old ones...etc. I only can see laziness. Considering the expansion was worth 40$.
worst - Anarchy Online: Shadowlands - this is the worst freaking expansion ever, it freaking ruined the game. It turned the game into 180+lvls of killing the same damn monster over and over again in different zones. Great job funcom, REALLY great damn job. If you are too lazy to come up with better content than killing hecklers for 180 lvls then you really should give up on the damn game.
ps - yes i know you can lvl other than off of hecklers, but EVERYONE wants to just grind them, so they completely screwed over the teaming fun in the game.
I might have a different perpsecitve than someone who started from the beginning. I was a froob that decided to buy the game, and was blown away by how much better it was when I got Shadowlands. It was like a whole 'nother game. Yeah, hecklers were a mistake but you can't focus on them. The game was based on grinding anways. But, most people did team up for hecklers and not everyone had a "pocket doc". If you didn't powerlevel off hecks you could really see how big the expansion really was. I wish I didnt have to team up, so I could see all the content freely.
Shadowlands had the most immersive, original and just omgwtf storyline and quests, no MMO has better. Between the setting and dialogue I've never played a more immersive game. Its the only MMO I've played where I wanted to know what was going on, and wasn't bored by the monotony of the kill or courier quest format. Don't forget it also had perks and perfect loot (not too uber, not too useless). I wish other MMO's would had a perk system, instead of the worthless cosmetic fluff that everyone equates to customization these days.
As for theworst expansion ever - City of Villains
(Planetside comes close but at least it was 100% new stuff)
CoV was like 40% new and 60% spun off old content. They charged $50 for it like its a new game. CoV segregated the players between good and evil and brought in a bunch of retards. CoH used to be the best game for pick up groups. (Good old fashioned co-op pve). The community was nice, varied, and family-friendly. Now there's only min-maxing "flavor of the month" pvp kiddies, and fanboys so delusional they'd put the "vanboys" to shame.
SL basically made all RK content useless so they basically lost half their world since the exp sucks and the loot sucks and even the raid mobs could be taken down by 1-2 ppl. SL would have been better if it had the same exp rate as RK, but they made it SOOOOO much better that it made RK stuff almost useless. Then they made hecks the best xp mobs in the game, so now everyone wants to do them, and they are usually flooded by teams. It is just annoying that they did not think it out more, it could have been way better if they did not nullify the usefullness of half of their "world"
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
Best Expansion - Well it will be revilations 1.2.3 for me Its added so much to eve and will add too once its finished being released. New graphics new ships new faction system new escrow. Plus a whole lot more and it may include in station avitars if not then soon after
Worst Expansion - Burning crusade gave post level 60 content but the armour was just pretty and not much else. Also the new races were a pile of........ Anyway this expansion amde wow even more boring than it was before.
Yeah I can see how it's impact was negative as a whole, but if It was so good, and so big that nobody had to play with old content again, I think it truly qualifies as the best. At least they didnt charge $50 for Shadowlands, recycle 60% of Rubi-ka and then call it a sequel.
Shadowlands on its own is equal to like 3 or 4 EQ expansions, if you could measure the amount of content.
If expansions were fast food burgers, Shadowlands was a one pound gourmet steak for the same price.
Kerylan mentioned daoc Shrowdedi isle i agree. This expansion was vast covering 1 - 50 in all the reamls thus making the expansion worth while for everyone. Added tons of game play as well. Flip side if that was your first experaince with expansions you get very dissapointed fast when realizing most other games ideas of expansion is truely no more then an adventure pack at full expansion price......
Swg Rage of the Wookies worse , it advertised an in game item for a class that was to be compeltely deleted from the game , within days of the expansion coming out the "NGE" happened thus destorying one of the few skill based games we still had at the time.
Before Rage of Wookies swg expansion i would again go with what Kerylan said Trials of Atlantis for daoc it was very limited in scope yet changed rvr forever , to only be made whole again on classic servers........ Both those expansions caused major issues with those games as well.
For the "best" I would have to say any of the Lineaage 2 Chronicles. They always have something new and add a lot to the game. Lineage 2 is one of few MMOs that has actually inproved over the years rather then self - destruct like many games.
Second - maybe, I really, really liked "Jump to Lightspeed" for SWG. I was something completely new and unique that still is worth taking a look at. Had they built on it over the last few years, the game might still be relevant in todays market, instead of that sex-change operation they did on the ground portion. They have been doing damage control on the game ever since that... for the last 2 years.
Third best - Ryzom put out an expansion that lets player create their own content.
The worse expansion was probably the Trials of Atlantis for DAoC. Screwed up the game so badly, they actually made servers that did not include it. After ToA. No expansion for DAoC was really all that good after that and ended up damaging the populations by spreading them out over larger and larger areas AND individual instanced task dungeons while the sub base got smaller and smaller. The game is virtually deserted except for a few servers that do not have ToA. I would have to say Mythic puts out some really messed up, game breaking expansions. Good luck with WAR
Also, aside from "Jump to Lightspeed" any other expansion put out for SWG was really just a piece of garbage.
**Of course this is based on my experience only. I haven't played every game and every expansion.**
worst - Anarchy Online: Shadowlands - this is the worst freaking expansion ever, it freaking ruined the game. It turned the game into 180+lvls of killing the same damn monster over and over again in different zones. Great job funcom, REALLY great damn job. If you are too lazy to come up with better content than killing hecklers for 180 lvls then you really should give up on the damn game.
ps - yes i know you can lvl other than off of hecklers, but EVERYONE wants to just grind them, so they completely screwed over the teaming fun in the game.
Tell it all !!!
I agree that expansion totally ruined the game for me.
I once met a dev from Funcom at a game convention and after fussing at him for 5 minutes he did admit that SL screwed the game economy and messed up the gameplay with those stupid Hecklers.
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Shadowlands had the most immersive, original and just omgwtf storyline and quests, no MMO has better. Between the setting and dialogue I've never played a more immersive game. Its the only MMO I've played where I wanted to know what was going on, and wasn't bored by the monotony of the kill or courier quest format. Don't forget it also had perks and perfect loot (not too uber, not too useless). I wish other MMO's would had a perk system, instead of the worthless cosmetic fluff that everyone equates to customization these days.
As for the worst expansion ever - City of Villains
(Planetside comes close but at least it was 100% new stuff)
CoV was like 40% new and 60% spun off old content. They charged $50 for it like its a new game. CoV segregated the players between good and evil and brought in a bunch of retards. CoH used to be the best game for pick up groups. (Good old fashioned co-op pve). The community was nice, varied, and family-friendly. Now there's only min-maxing "flavor of the month" pvp kiddies, and fanboys so delusional they'd put the "vanboys" to shame.
I think the best expansion in an online game has been Chronicle 4 in Lineage2. It added tons of content (mostly high end) that *complemented perfectly what already was in the game*. The olimpiad, heroes, valakas, two new castles and new high level zones, a few more leves and many more skills... it was a very balanced and welcomed expansion. While Chronicle 5 was more of a low level content expansion, also very welcome. On the other hand, the last L2 expansion (Interlude) is a bit of a let down (for example, they promised conquerable fortresses that have been delayed for next xpac.)
If I had to choose a bad expansion, I could name a whole lot. But I choose The Burning Crusade (WoW). It isn't game-breaking, but it has one major flaw: it makes previous content *useless*. So, it adds new content and continues in the same line, but once you consider that much of the old high-end content is not anymore used by anyone (with the exception of the battlegrounds, sadly they are not able to make new maps for the same games), the whole picture of the expansion is very sad. They are able to make heroic modes for the new instances, but not for the old ones...etc. I only can see laziness. Considering the expansion was worth 40$.
Shadowlands had the most immersive, original and just omgwtf storyline and quests, no MMO has better. Between the setting and dialogue I've never played a more immersive game. Its the only MMO I've played where I wanted to know what was going on, and wasn't bored by the monotony of the kill or courier quest format. Don't forget it also had perks and perfect loot (not too uber, not too useless). I wish other MMO's would had a perk system, instead of the worthless cosmetic fluff that everyone equates to customization these days.
As for the worst expansion ever - City of Villains
(Planetside comes close but at least it was 100% new stuff)
CoV was like 40% new and 60% spun off old content. They charged $50 for it like its a new game. CoV segregated the players between good and evil and brought in a bunch of retards. CoH used to be the best game for pick up groups. (Good old fashioned co-op pve). The community was nice, varied, and family-friendly. Now there's only min-maxing "flavor of the month" pvp kiddies, and fanboys so delusional they'd put the "vanboys" to shame.
SL basically made all RK content useless so they basically lost half their world since the exp sucks and the loot sucks and even the raid mobs could be taken down by 1-2 ppl. SL would have been better if it had the same exp rate as RK, but they made it SOOOOO much better that it made RK stuff almost useless. Then they made hecks the best xp mobs in the game, so now everyone wants to do them, and they are usually flooded by teams. It is just annoying that they did not think it out more, it could have been way better if they did not nullify the usefullness of half of their "world"
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
Best Expansion - Well it will be revilations 1.2.3 for me Its added so much to eve and will add too once its finished being released. New graphics new ships new faction system new escrow. Plus a whole lot more and it may include in station avitars if not then soon after
Worst Expansion - Burning crusade gave post level 60 content but the armour was just pretty and not much else. Also the new races were a pile of........ Anyway this expansion amde wow even more boring than it was before.
Shadowlands on its own is equal to like 3 or 4 EQ expansions, if you could measure the amount of content.
If expansions were fast food burgers, Shadowlands was a one pound gourmet steak for the same price.
Worst - EQ1 Planes of Power
Best - EQ1 Velious
Swg Rage of the Wookies worse , it advertised an in game item for a class that was to be compeltely deleted from the game , within days of the expansion coming out the "NGE" happened thus destorying one of the few skill based games we still had at the time.
Before Rage of Wookies swg expansion i would again go with what Kerylan said Trials of Atlantis for daoc it was very limited in scope yet changed rvr forever , to only be made whole again on classic servers........ Both those expansions caused major issues with those games as well.
For the "best" I would have to say any of the Lineaage 2 Chronicles. They always have something new and add a lot to the game. Lineage 2 is one of few MMOs that has actually inproved over the years rather then self - destruct like many games.
Second - maybe, I really, really liked "Jump to Lightspeed" for SWG. I was something completely new and unique that still is worth taking a look at. Had they built on it over the last few years, the game might still be relevant in todays market, instead of that sex-change operation they did on the ground portion. They have been doing damage control on the game ever since that... for the last 2 years.
Third best - Ryzom put out an expansion that lets player create their own content.
The worse expansion was probably the Trials of Atlantis for DAoC. Screwed up the game so badly, they actually made servers that did not include it. After ToA. No expansion for DAoC was really all that good after that and ended up damaging the populations by spreading them out over larger and larger areas AND individual instanced task dungeons while the sub base got smaller and smaller. The game is virtually deserted except for a few servers that do not have ToA. I would have to say Mythic puts out some really messed up, game breaking expansions. Good luck with WAR
Also, aside from "Jump to Lightspeed" any other expansion put out for SWG was really just a piece of garbage.
**Of course this is based on my experience only. I haven't played every game and every expansion.**
Tell it all !!!
I agree that expansion totally ruined the game for me.
I once met a dev from Funcom at a game convention and after fussing at him for 5 minutes he did admit that SL screwed the game economy and messed up the gameplay with those stupid Hecklers.