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CCP nerf Privateers
Agricola1
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It seems that Privateers won EVE, we got so bad *** that they were forced to change the game mechanics. It seems that we were ganking freighters and haulers owned by BoD alt corps that they use for safe hauling to sell their complex loot in empire. They cried to their DEVs in their corp and finally got the system changed. It is obvious CCP want the whole of empire to be safe in order to provide a steady stream of entertainment for their pet alliance BoD in 0.0.
It's a pity Privateers didn't have a few DEVs in it, then these changes wouldn't of happened and we wouldn't of had PvP reduced. It seems the "Come to 0.0" retards won the day with the help of the "I don't want to fight in empire" whiners, bolstered by the "Call the DEVs, we lost another freighter!" BoD alt fleet!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
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Basically with the old system alliances couldmake as many war decks as they wanted to and the privateers war decked everyone it seems [even small 1 man corps]. Now tho its a case of yuo can still amke war deks but the cost goes up with each one for example.
1 war dek 10 mil
2 war dek 12 milk
3 war dek 15 mill and so on.
According to CCP tho this a loophole in the game mechanics they ahve wanted to plug up for some time. Also it is werll known that there is at least one dev in the privateers. All the complaining about this change and protests of favouratism to carebears is mainly comming from the privateesrs who for a long time have taken advantage of this loophole in the war deking mechanics. Technically tho the privateers did nothing wrong as it was a n ormal loophole rather than an exploit of a bug. Now tho its been fixed and hopfully the privateers will learn how to PvP in 0.0 rather than use the war deck system to turn low sec and high sec into a proxy safe 0.0 for them.
And that was the main problem with this loophole an alliance could kill anyone and everyone in low sec and empire yet be safe because everyopne knows empire is largly filled with newbs unlike 0.0 space which is the oposite. This made the Privateers the carebear alliance in a strange way.
The Privateers had a great deal of fun and definitely acquired a certain amount of notoriety, most of us don't begrudge them their moment in the limelight. That said, try dealing with the downfall of your lifestyle with a little bit of grace. All the crying about "Band of Developers" and CCP favoritism amounts to nothing more than a tantrum. If you really think there is that degree of unethical behavior from CCP then you shouldn't be giving them your money every month to play their game.
example would be
Corp A war decs Corp B
A pays 50mil to start and 50mil a week
if corp B already has a war dec against it then A pays 50mil to start the war and 100mil a week.
If this is corp Bs third war dec then it would pay 50 mil to start and 150mil a week since Bs three wars is more than As 2 wars.
not sure if the initiation cost is increased. hope that made it a bit clearer.
I greatly disagree, Privateers was a pirate alliance. Many mining corps, not related to BoB in anyway were picked on by Privateers in the systems close to Jita. There were over twenty friendly corps, to me, that were wardec'd by them. Corps that had 10 or so players and no alliances. Plenty of times did Privateers shot against newbie players on Ibis, or suicide runs against people doing simple chores.
I know that EVE is a harsh environment, I tell everyone that. But Privateers were no different than pirates. I'm glad they can't continue with their antics.
from my posts here, it can easily be seen that i am ANYTHING but a bod fan.
having said that, could i get a list of everyone privateers has declared on in the past 3 months? and can that list be broken down into bod/bod-pets and random carebear corps?
because, i'm pretty sure that the above post is full of, erm... not-quite-accurate-information.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Full of it lol it seems to be nothing but.
Out of curiosity what do YOU know about the privateers alliance and ill try and get you up to date is possable.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
To clear somethings up, BoD has many alt hauler corps that do their hauling (as do other large 0.0 alliances). We wardeced all of them and they started crying because they couldn't get their complex loot (you know the ones that spawn every hour?) to market.
We have over 200 wardecs presently, we did this as a protest to the change. I've been in Privateers since the begining of this year, about 3-4 months.
I used to PvP in 0.0 for over a year, it was a boring lag fest. Sitting on bubbles all day = boring, blob warfare = boring/lag fest, PoS warfare = boring/lag fest. These are my personal opinions on 0.0 warfare and it is the reason Privateers exist, ex 0.0 PvPers bored s***less by it.
I think CCP should've concentrated on making 0.0 PvP more attractive and accessible to the playerbase, rather than making empire wars less. As it stands 80-90% of the playerbase aren't into 0.0, because it just doesn't deliver. If 0.0 was fun we'd be there fighting and saving cash, but it isn't. It would've been better for the game all round to make 0.0 more fun and more practical for the average player, rather than nerfing their fun to force them into a BoD lag fest/blob/node crash.
In the end I play EVE for fun, if they make 0.0 more fun I'll be there doing the same as I did in empire. As it stands 0.0 doesn't have enough traffic, fleet warfare doesn't work as most of us don't enjoy slideshows. Also the game is balanced in favour of alliances like BoD as they have DEVs playing with them, why bother to fight them since we know for a fact all alliances with DEVs use them to their advantage? So for now I'll be going back to mission running in empire once the wars end, it's just more fun than 0.0 at the moment!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Onto personal experiences. I got shot at on two different occasions by members of Privateers; both failed, Concord got them. Several of my friendly corps have been wardec'd by Privateers. C'mon corps with one or two Battleships, mostly miners, with a total of 20 players. Corps that are not part of an alliance.
Is Privateers really that afraid of the alliances in 0.0, like the rumors say? Is it fun to pick on smaller corps? Is it fun to show your superiority when fighting mining vessels and haulers? Isn't more fun when you fight someone that really challenges you? Or is it that Privateers don't dare mettle against someone that can match them in combat?
You fail to mention we've been at war with every large 0.0 alliance since last year, some constantly (BoD). Perhaps your just giving all the "you only gank noobs in an Ibis" to get the rest of the community to back you up and look good?
Look this up http://www.privateer.griefwatch.net/ if you think we're just cowards that gank haulers please post a link to your alliances/corps killboards. If not or you don't have any stop putting down my alliance and go fight in 0.0, or wardec us and come pod me. I'd think only a few alliances come close to the amount of T2 combat ships destroyed that we manage. All this "whaaaa you only kill miners and noobs" is just the weak crying because they're not bad *** enough to join BoD!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
if i were in 0.0, then how could i fight privateers? or did they move there because of the anti-lame-weener-changes to war dec'ing?
seems to me i recall a number of eve-o posts by privateers which pretty much talk about their only fighting in empire, the "rp" aspect of it being something along the lines of "concord is very corrupt and takes bribes to look the other way", which was also part of the "corps come and go as they please (and constantly) from privateers".
you won't find pity, mercy, or giving a damn from me about anyone in an organization as lame as privateers. i'd just as soon say nice things about bod-pets.
edited:
nah, not about half of the ones so far today are indys or nuffin, ONLY 5 of 13 (might've miscounted). nope, no high sec hauler ganking there, nope, none at all. think that pretty much says what your word on privs is worth, eh m8? cheers
UNITED STAR SYNDICAT... [Endless Horizon]
Thorax, Hek, Metropolis, 0.5
PezCo - Ice Services [Brutally Clever Empi...]
Iteron Mark V, Alikara, The Citadel, 0.7
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHE... [THE V I G I L]
Iteron Mark III, Bereye, Everyshore, 0.7
Blacksteel Mining an... [Apoapsis Multiversal...]
Eris, Oursulaert, Essence, 0.9
Porta Incendia
Caracal, Jita, The Forge, 0.9
Same Sh1t Different... [Gemini Federation]
Myrmidon, Juunigaishi, The Citadel, 0.6
NEW DAWN CO [Fuzzy Nut Attack Squ...]
Iteron Mark III, Magiko, Heimatar, 0.9
Vortex. [Maelstrom Alliance]
Drake, Isikesu, The Citadel, 0.7
The Republican Guard [The Sundering]
Iteron, Yrmori, Metropolis, 0.6
Red Dwarf Mining Cor... [space weaponry and t...]
Tristan, Pulin, Sinq Laison, 0.5
Krieger Allianz [ASGARDIAN EMPIRE]
Badger Mark II, Kaaputenen, The Citadel, 0.8
TerraNova NavalAcade... [Terran Nova Alliance]
Thorax, Pulin, Sinq Laison, 0.5
Plundering Penguins [3asy Company]
Rifter, Aufay, Sinq Laison, 0.5
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
if i were in 0.0, then how could i fight privateers? or did they move there because of the anti-lame-weener-changes to war dec'ing?
seems to me i recall a number of eve-o posts by privateers which pretty much talk about their only fighting in empire, the "rp" aspect of it being something along the lines of "concord is very corrupt and takes bribes to look the other way", which was also part of the "corps come and go as they please (and constantly) from privateers".
you won't find pity, mercy, or giving a damn from me about anyone in an organization as lame as privateers. i'd just as soon say nice things about bod-pets.
edited:
nah, not about half of the ones so far today are indys or nuffin, ONLY 5 of 13 (might've miscounted). nope, no high sec hauler ganking there, nope, none at all. think that pretty much says what your word on privs is worth, eh m8? cheers
UNITED STAR SYNDICAT... [Endless Horizon]
Thorax, Hek, Metropolis, 0.5
PezCo - Ice Services [Brutally Clever Empi...]
Iteron Mark V, Alikara, The Citadel, 0.7
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHE... [THE V I G I L]
Iteron Mark III, Bereye, Everyshore, 0.7
Blacksteel Mining an... [Apoapsis Multiversal...]
Eris, Oursulaert, Essence, 0.9
Porta Incendia
Caracal, Jita, The Forge, 0.9
Same Sh1t Different... [Gemini Federation]
Myrmidon, Juunigaishi, The Citadel, 0.6
NEW DAWN CO [Fuzzy Nut Attack Squ...]
Iteron Mark III, Magiko, Heimatar, 0.9
Vortex. [Maelstrom Alliance]
Drake, Isikesu, The Citadel, 0.7
The Republican Guard [The Sundering]
Iteron, Yrmori, Metropolis, 0.6
Red Dwarf Mining Cor... [space weaponry and t...]
Tristan, Pulin, Sinq Laison, 0.5
Krieger Allianz [ASGARDIAN EMPIRE]
Badger Mark II, Kaaputenen, The Citadel, 0.8
TerraNova NavalAcade... [Terran Nova Alliance]
Thorax, Pulin, Sinq Laison, 0.5
Plundering Penguins [3asy Company]
Rifter, Aufay, Sinq Laison, 0.5
I think someone just won the thread for today. And you are quite right most peopel in eve wont support the privateers even if they played the BoD card. The reason being is there true reasons for what they do are well known [largly because they kept on boasting about it on EvE-O].
No, the only people hurt by privateers were the major alliances who's players could not drop out of their corp with ease over a single wardec.
So what, maybe the Privateers wanted to gank a few fat and juicy haulers with Faction loot and BPOs, who does'nt? Is that wrong, is that not the point of Eve? It sure is and that is why every major alliance was crying tears of joy when the privateers got nerfed because "their haulers full of goodies" got that much more safe.
But please don't give me, "the poor helpless n00bs" argument when I am a poor helpless n00b and Privateers has not hurt me at all
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come to 0.0 and fight you pussy's
I love PA because they are hopeless ^_^
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If any of what you say is true we wouldn't be getting nerfed. Oh and to the retard that gave a selective snap shot of our KB and his fellow village idiot that applauded him here are the stats for the last 24 hours,
Battlecruiser
Battleship
Capsule
Cruiser
Destroyer
Elite Battlecruiser
Elite Cruiser
Elite Destroyer
Elite Frigate
Elite Industrial
Frigate
Industrial
Mining Barge
Rookie ship
Shuttle
Seems we took down more Battleships than haulers so far, anyone else have an alliance KB doing better in EVE? No?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Stop crying noone liked your allianced tactics you got some just karma that patch day binjuice.
And to the guy claiming small corps didnt get hurt well its obvious you have never been in one that had to be abandoned to avoid a unfare war dek. I can tell you it does hurt.
If any of what you say is true we wouldn't be getting nerfed. Oh and to the retard that gave a selective snap shot of our KB and his fellow village idiot that applauded him here are the stats for the last 24 hours,
Battlecruiser
Battleship
Capsule
Cruiser
Destroyer
Elite Battlecruiser
Elite Cruiser
Elite Destroyer
Elite Frigate
Elite Industrial
Frigate
Industrial
Mining Barge
Rookie ship
Shuttle
Seems we took down more Battleships than haulers so far, anyone else have an alliance KB doing better in EVE? No?
OKay, now tell us how many of these were at Jita 4-4 and how many were petitioned. I suspect CCP was getting tired of closeing petitions.