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combat is too hard!!

suskesuske Member Posts: 714
now the nge fanbois are crying rollback due to mobs having specials!!! "there will be no rollbacks" sound familiar?
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  • dirtyd77dirtyd77 Member UncommonPosts: 383
    Originally posted by suske

    now the nge fanbois are crying rollback due to mobs having specials!!! "there will be no rollbacks" sound familiar?

     

    Well all i know is mob's have had specials in the NGE  for about the last um I dunno 6 months..... at least.     

    Now I havent been paying attention so they very well could be complaining about the new AI and the dps being even to ther own which the mobs now have. Anyway.

    Have a good day

  • Devildog1Devildog1 Member Posts: 494
    Originally posted by suske

    now the nge fanbois are crying rollback due to mobs having specials!!! "there will be no rollbacks" sound familiar?
    Rofl! They never wouldhave made it back when you couldn't solo a Krayt! I remember having like 15-20 person teams hunting and having to have a ranger to track unless you wanted to just wander around and hope you trip over one cause they were a rarer spawn.
  • I still remember when a rancor was a force to be screwed with and people had to terrain exploit kill em cuz they had terrible terrain negotiation. O the days of old.
  • KazaraKazara Member UncommonPosts: 1,086

     There have been threats of account cancellations if Chapter 6 PvE 'difficulty' goes live. I have been waiting to say this (NGE fanboi mantra)....."Don't like it? Then quit!"   There are also concerns of finding players to actually group with on the less populated servers.  If these players don't quit, then I foresee a tidy windfall of $$$ to $OE in toon transfer fees.

    18 months of simplistic, solo play is coming to an end. Too bad I couldn't say the same for  the NGE. 

    The title of the publish coming up - Chapter 6: Working as Intended (added withthe infamous "There will be no rollback")

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Last time I played I was soloing Ancients in my dancer outfit in under 3 minutes.



    I can't wait for the nge fanbois to squeal like Ned Beatty.

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  • FreelancerA4FreelancerA4 Member Posts: 145
    ....ahhh Deliverance. I wonder if SOE will be so strict about rollbacks when all five of their current player base threaten to leave due to them not being able to solo every little thing anymore.

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  • CemoaCemoa Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by Kazara


     There have been threats of account cancellations if Chapter 6 PvE 'difficulty' goes live. I have been waiting to say this (NGE fanboi mantra)....."Don't like it? Then quit!"   There are also concerns of finding players to actually group with on the less populated servers.  If these players don't quit, then I foresee a tidy windfall of $$$ to $OE in toon transfer fees.
    18 months of simplistic, solo play is coming to an end. Too bad I couldn't say the same for  the NGE. 
    The title of the publish coming up - Chapter 6: Working as Intended (added withthe infamous "There will be no rollback")

     

    Those people that are crying that the combat is too hard are getting flamed up the ass for it. More challenging PVE has been on the players list for awhile, so I am sure that almost everyone would agree with you (including myself) on your quote. Hell, the less whiners the better.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Being an NGE hater, I find this publish very appealing, and has brought me back from SWG retirement. I love the fact that difficulty is being increased, for that was my reason of cancelation in march. I was bored witless. And while yes, I am on a small populated a server like Valcyn, i would rather spend an hour looking for a group to hit HK with and having a challenge and excitement back.

    While i wish with all my heart they would bring back pre nge, I know it will never happen, but i give kudos to deadmeat and blixtev for trying to trun around the game. Now that they have gotten rid of the stink made by Helios and his devs (i think only DevH is left, and he was a good dev during Helios' Reign of Terror), they are truly trying to bring back SWG from the depths of hell.

    and with the new Beast Master system, it takes days for a good pet to be made, no more instant gratification. And they have already mentioned they will be bringing back larger groups and fixing the group xp...in my opnion, this team deserves 2 thumbs up.

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  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670
    But I thought reading was too hard...   What did I miss???  

    SOE knows what you like... You don't!
    And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!

  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by miagisan


    Being an NGE hater, I find this publish very appealing, and has brought me back from SWG retirement. I love the fact that difficulty is being increased, for that was my reason of cancelation in march. I was bored witless. And while yes, I am on a small populated a server like Valcyn, i would rather spend an hour looking for a group to hit HK with and having a challenge and excitement back.
    While i wish with all my heart they would bring back pre nge, I know it will never happen, but i give kudos to deadmeat and blixtev for trying to trun around the game. Now that they have gotten rid of the stink made by Helios and his devs (i think only DevH is left, and he was a good dev during Helios' Reign of Terror), they are truly trying to bring back SWG from the depths of hell.
    and with the new Beast Master system, it takes days for a good pet to be made, no more instant gratification. And they have already mentioned they will be bringing back larger groups and fixing the group xp...in my opnion, this team deserves 2 thumbs up.
    You do realize that everything in this publish was conceived while Helios was still the Lead Designer, don't you (almost everything that is in the current publish and been announced for the next one is from the RFC posts Helios made before leaving, and it wasn't even original then)?  Neither Blixtev or Deadmeat are willing to give any indication beyond what is being worked on at the moment (which implies they don't have any idea where development will be headed).  The game's development is currently without a vision of where it is headed and the developer.  That is a very bad sign of where things are going to be headed (likely further down the toilet Blixtev's bosses had him install).






  • Fraya9Fraya9 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by duncan_922

    But I thought reading was too hard...   What did I miss???  
    Maybe they finally realized that the entire point of an mmorpg is to play with other players.. who communicate with you through text you have to READ? :P
  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273
    Can anyone say Deja vu? Looks awfull lot like when the CU was on TC to me..One hit Quenkers lol..Um well since the current players are now getting a taste of SOE's track record..Promise the sun stars and the moon and server up a nice Turd..
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Originally posted by Dvol

    Can anyone say Deja vu? Looks awfull lot like when the CU was on TC to me..One hit Quenkers lol..Um well since the current players are now getting a taste of SOE's track record..Promise the sun stars and the moon and server up a nice Turd..
    Well, it has been a year and a half. They're about due for another push that alienates half the playerbase.

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  • Vato26Vato26 Member Posts: 3,930
    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Dvol

    Can anyone say Deja vu? Looks awfull lot like when the CU was on TC to me..One hit Quenkers lol..Um well since the current players are now getting a taste of SOE's track record..Promise the sun stars and the moon and server up a nice Turd..
    Well, it has been a year and a half. They're about due for another push that alienates half the playerbase. Yep!  It's about time for another revamp for $OE.  The NGE will be replaced with a new revamp that is termed Player Optimal Service, or POS for short.  Of course, we know what that acronym really stands for...*









    *NOTE:  For all those who are sarcastically-inept, the POS will not come out.  It was joke.
  • Fraya9Fraya9 Member Posts: 112

    Originally posted by Vato26

    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Dvol

    Can anyone say Deja vu? Looks awfull lot like when the CU was on TC to me..One hit Quenkers lol..Um well since the current players are now getting a taste of SOE's track record..Promise the sun stars and the moon and server up a nice Turd..
    Well, it has been a year and a half. They're about due for another push that alienates half the playerbase. Yep!  It's about time for another revamp for $OE.  The NGE will be replaced with a new revamp that is termed Player Optimal Service, or POS for short.  Of course, we know what that acronym really stands for...*









    *NOTE:  For all those who are sarcastically-inept, the POS will not come out.  It was joke.

    Its not that we dont get sarcasm its just that at this point we wouldnt be suprised if that really happened so its not hard to believe :P

  • Vato26Vato26 Member Posts: 3,930
    Originally posted by Fraya9


     
    Its not that we dont get sarcasm its just that at this point we wouldnt be suprised if that really happened so its not hard to believe :P

    Yeah... well, I didn't want to overly hurt the NGE fanboi's feelings with that... esepcially the ones who are sarcastically inept.  Therefore, the note attached. 

  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273

    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by Dvol

    Can anyone say Deja vu? Looks awfull lot like when the CU was on TC to me..One hit Quenkers lol..Um well since the current players are now getting a taste of SOE's track record..Promise the sun stars and the moon and server up a nice Turd..
    Well, it has been a year and a half. They're about due for another push that alienates half the playerbase.

    Well SOE is like the seasons they change no matter what anyone does or wants.If you really study the NGE and the CU there isnt a whole lotta difference between them gameplay wise..They both sucked, both were bugged to heck, and each lost a massive about of players and both had horrid GUI icons..The PVE part is looking alot like it IMO..What was the point of the NGE again? SOE's past is a roadmap to the future..They failed to change anything but the player base numbers..

    Has to make you wonder why a company wouldnt want millions from us? when you figure out why SOE does the things they do LMK..But you cant fix stupid.....

  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931

    NPC's more challenging again?  Nice.  Maybe getting rid of the xp reduction the more people you add to your group?  Also nice.   I'm also glad entertainers have a purpose again (not just the xp buff), and that creature handling is back in a way.  I'm also glad that healers can heal and reduce the aggro they get.

    I still wish the NGE never happened.  I still wish they acknowledged it was trash and brought back the game I bought.  Since they haven't done this though, I am glad when someone at SOE sees a glimpse of reason and puts fun things back into the game that the NGE took out.

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Originally posted by Obee

    Originally posted by miagisan


    Being an NGE hater, I find this publish very appealing, and has brought me back from SWG retirement. I love the fact that difficulty is being increased, for that was my reason of cancelation in march. I was bored witless. And while yes, I am on a small populated a server like Valcyn, i would rather spend an hour looking for a group to hit HK with and having a challenge and excitement back.
    While i wish with all my heart they would bring back pre nge, I know it will never happen, but i give kudos to deadmeat and blixtev for trying to trun around the game. Now that they have gotten rid of the stink made by Helios and his devs (i think only DevH is left, and he was a good dev during Helios' Reign of Terror), they are truly trying to bring back SWG from the depths of hell.
    and with the new Beast Master system, it takes days for a good pet to be made, no more instant gratification. And they have already mentioned they will be bringing back larger groups and fixing the group xp...in my opnion, this team deserves 2 thumbs up.
    You do realize that everything in this publish was conceived while Helios was still the Lead Designer, don't you (almost everything that is in the current publish and been announced for the next one is from the RFC posts Helios made before leaving, and it wasn't even original then)?  Neither Blixtev or Deadmeat are willing to give any indication beyond what is being worked on at the moment (which implies they don't have any idea where development will be headed).  The game's development is currently without a vision of where it is headed and the developer.  That is a very bad sign of where things are going to be headed (likely further down the toilet Blixtev's bosses had him install).







    It's very true that a majority of this was talked about during Helios time at the helm. However, that's the point: it was talked about, to quell the majority of the players who were constantly getting the Dork Lord's shaft because he was only concerned with PvP and thought PvE and roleplaying were stupid.

    Also, these concepts were thought of mostly by players who posted what they wanted, and then Helios would say "Isn't this a good idea?" a month later, trying to take credit for listening to the players, while laughing at them the whole time while getting freaky with his uber commando. Helios deserves no credit whatsoever.

    Now that he's gone, the things that were "talked about" are actually being implemented by Blix and Deadmeat. And doing a damn fine job of doing what everyone complained so much about wanting: a team that listened to the players.

  • celee2222celee2222 Member Posts: 123

    Originally posted by Shayde

    Last time I played I was soloing Ancients in my dancer outfit in under 3 minutes.



    I can't wait for the nge fanbois to squeal like Ned Beatty.
    you should go visit a krayte now mate

    they are more like pre cu strength in chapter 6

    unless you go look you wont know will you

    or you can alsways sit on here with the rest of the vets totally unaware of the exitement gripping players on test center right now

    chapter 6 has transformed the game totally - i urge you to try it out

  • ownedyou1ownedyou1 Member Posts: 364

    Noone is crying rollback, the new changes where creatures are harder, have had the devs being thanked.







    I myself thanked them for bringing back CH in a new sexy way, I can now make my rancor stronger, aswell as attach armour to it, or have it as a mount.







    So keep crying my fellow pre-cu kiddies, SWG has moved on and pre-cu has been forgotten, and you can't handle it, lol.

  • permanent1permanent1 Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by ownedyou1


    Noone is crying rollback, the new changes where creatures are harder, have had the devs being thanked.







    I myself thanked them for bringing back CH in a new sexy way, I can now make my rancor stronger, aswell as attach armour to it, or have it as a mount.







    So keep crying my fellow pre-cu kiddies, SWG has moved on and pre-cu has been forgotten, and you can't handle it, lol.



     You cant have a rancor as mount dont know what you are smoking the only mounts will be the same ones that were mounts previously there will be no new mounts with this publish, also there are like 5 threads crying about the difficulty right now, so before you come here spewing crap out of your mouth make sure your facts are correct first.

  • irukandjiirukandji Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by celee2222


     
    Originally posted by Shayde

    Last time I played I was soloing Ancients in my dancer outfit in under 3 minutes.



    I can't wait for the nge fanbois to squeal like Ned Beatty.
    you should go visit a krayte now mate

     

    they are more like pre cu strength in chapter 6

    unless you go look you wont know will you

    or you can alsways sit on here with the rest of the vets totally unaware of the exitement gripping players on test center right now

    chapter 6 has transformed the game totally - i urge you to try it out



    You can still solo Krayts by kiting and running in a circle around them- read many posts about this on the O board. The strength may be better but that is still too easy. NGE=transformed. Chapter 6=another step in the right direction. It does sound like things are getting better for you guys by restoring the game with some of the old features. BTW, I won't go back to a company that screwed so many people but I hope they keep bringing back the old game so those of you enjoying yourselves have something better than what I played a year and a half ago. People who stayed through that garbage were nuts- implemented too early.

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  • DvolDvol Member Posts: 273
    Originally posted by permanent1

    Originally posted by ownedyou1


    Noone is crying rollback, the new changes where creatures are harder, have had the devs being thanked.







    I myself thanked them for bringing back CH in a new sexy way, I can now make my rancor stronger, aswell as attach armour to it, or have it as a mount.







    So keep crying my fellow pre-cu kiddies, SWG has moved on and pre-cu has been forgotten, and you can't handle it, lol.
    Um....If SWG has moved on and precu has been forgotten then why are things being brought back to your wonderfull NGE....You cant handle the fact your version sucks without ours being put back into it..LOL



     You cant have a rancor as mount dont know what you are smoking the only mounts will be the same ones that were mounts previously there will be no new mounts with this publish, also there are like 5 threads crying about the difficulty right now, so before you come here spewing crap out of your mouth make sure your facts are correct first.

     

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    Originally posted by irukandji

    Originally posted by celee2222


     
    Originally posted by Shayde

    Last time I played I was soloing Ancients in my dancer outfit in under 3 minutes.



    I can't wait for the nge fanbois to squeal like Ned Beatty.
    you should go visit a krayte now mate

     

    they are more like pre cu strength in chapter 6

    unless you go look you wont know will you

    or you can alsways sit on here with the rest of the vets totally unaware of the exitement gripping players on test center right now

    chapter 6 has transformed the game totally - i urge you to try it out



    You can still solo Krayts by kiting and running in a circle around them- read many posts about this on the O board. The strength may be better but that is still too easy. NGE=transformed. Chapter 6=another step in the right direction. It does sound like things are getting better for you guys by restoring the game with some of the old features. BTW, I won't go back to a company that screwed so many people but I hope they keep bringing back the old game so those of you enjoying yourselves have something better than what I played a year and a half ago. People who stayed through that garbage were nuts- implemented too early.

    What he said. A friend of mine tried it on test. Just took a minute longer. WOOOOHOOOOOO.

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