First of, Copy / Paste clients isnt a bad thing, in the contrary, the best way is always to use and improve something that is already there.
Second, i have nothing against K2 Network, but i have against some @sses who want to compare between a publisher which is still at publish/translate game (like K2) and a publisher which already TRANSLATED, MADE CLOSED BETA and is MAINTAINING the chrono for pOBT (like IAH).
Last: time will say which is better. I hope they do both a great job, even with K2 reputation.
Nobody is forcing you to read my threads. the thread title was quite clear what the topic of this thread would be. You can perfectly compare certain aspects of the publishins, as IAH has already been through a stage K2 network is currently in, Which CAN be compared, as I clearly pointed out in the OP.
I voted IAH mostly because the K2 pricing scheme is terrible imo. Buy the game (?), p2p, and item mall too...
Most likely IAH will be f2p with item mall.
I feel that a game should be either 100% p2p or 100% f2p with item mall. I see too much opportunity to exploit the players by having a hybrid scheme such as this. It just seems to me K2 is going to try to get money for every little thing/feature in the game.
I don't care what they claim they are changing, in gameplay both versions will be almost the same. The only differences will be very minor.
Also K2 doesn't exactly have the best reputation with it's previous games, whereas IAH is untested yet. I think I would rather trust a newbie with a f2p scheme than a publisher with a history of complaints against it that is going to charge for it.
Finally, IAH's open beta begins today! So I can try it out first and if they suck then I can always give K2 a go later if I still have the desire to play in a few months.
What saving grace could this game ever possibly have?
It looks worse than diablo 1, has fewer enemies to fight so it looks boring, spells look cool since you have to position them and they are interesting but your stuck using them against 1 or 2 guys so it wouldnt even be much fun. Unless they showed the worst parts of the game which is possible I dont see how anyone could see this as having potential, of course this is coming from someone who doesnt care about mining and crafting.
For a company who has a "F" rating on better business bureau link here I would hardly trust their promises. And about K2 re-translating everything, I wouldn't count on it. i bet some of those are taken from IAH, we don't know if they are lying or not, of course businesses and politicians lie all the time to attract people/customers. I think the ones who played K2 games like Knight Online won't ever trust k2 given their reputation of running the game.
Don't judge a book by its cover. k2 might be active on its forums. They might change when the game is released. A lot of games I played has gone from good to bad. Games that have GMs active on forum while the game wasn't released and/or the game is still on Beta or new, after a few months those GMs became extinct hardly on forums etc... Never ever trust a company's "promises". You'll never know if they are lying or not, K2 has a bad reputation already. So they aren't scared of screwing anymore games or screwing up their costumers.
While my stand on IAH is fairly neutral. Their team is also quick on fixing bugs. Like the steel exploit, IAH quickly fixed the problem and did some actions against who abused it. Since, the only bad thing is lag which is common in every MMORPG. IAH also said they aren't planning in banning foreign IPs, which I think their stand might change.
While IAH is fairly new and their service up to now is good, while K2 Network has a bad reputation at handling games. I'll go with IAH for GE, unless of course k2 Network improves.
Go and ask how much those players like K2 network. I'm playing KO since open beta, played loads of other games too and I can assure you there is no worse company around than K2. But, feel free to go and ask, you'll see you get the same answer.
About the F. http://forum.knightonlineworld.com Go and ask how much those players like K2 network. I'm playing KO since open beta, played loads of other games too and I can assure you there is no worse company around than K2. But, feel free to go and ask, you'll see you get the same answer.
Go to World of Warcraft forums and you'll get the same response. go to the Lineage 2 forums and you'll get the same response, go to the RF Online forums and you'll also get the same response. there will always be whiners.
Dude I played WoW and I played Lineage. Did you play KO? Do you know how K2 works? If you don't just dont bla bla about a company which you have never tried a game. I mean K2 GM AND DATABASE GOT HACKED BY SOME FOOLISH TURK!!! It's just Insane mate all Cypher server top players got hacked game is completely 100% cheat now, a 2 year old kid can easely dupe its just bloody insane mate. My PC is currently fixing so I'm on my dad's later I can bring you link to the video where the Cypher GM was hacked including the database with all users and passys.
Ive to agree with canzanito. Ive play KO, human warrior to lvl 57 and along the way i see many people hacking the game, be it money, gear (chitin) and auto shot etc... but when reported to the Gm, they didnt do anything.
The only thing they do is once in a few months wipe out everything that is dupe, everything. and ive lost countless armour, weapons and money because of this. Imagine the money that you've grind so hard for to buy an armour and next day log in and found its gone...
However ive not play any game by IAH, so i will not comment on them. Just to let you guys have a little insight about K2. Thanks
Dude I played WoW and I played Lineage. Did you play KO? Do you know how K2 works? If you don't just dont bla bla about a company which you have never tried a game. I mean K2 GM AND DATABASE GOT HACKED BY SOME FOOLISH TURK!!! It's just Insane mate all Cypher server top players got hacked game is completely 100% cheat now, a 2 year old kid can easely dupe its just bloody insane mate. My PC is currently fixing so I'm on my dad's later I can bring you link to the video where the Cypher GM was hacked including the database with all users and passys.
No, I didn't play Knight Online, but you can point the finger in K2 networks direction without knowing the full story. For all we know, the hack could be a fault in the game code or the secuirity of the game. That, however, is the responsibility of the company behind Knight Online, not K2 n etwork. K2 network is only the publisher, not the creator of the game.
It has been CONFIRMED that K2 network won't use IAH's translation. Why is this rumor even there in the first place?
The F rating in the BBB is complete bull. Squarenix, one of the most respected game companies also received a D rating.
Maybe because as yourself stated K2 isnt the developer, only the publisher? Maybe because they already got a launch date for the retail version, which is in 2 months (7/10/2007), without doing CB or OB?
And again, you are making a comparison between promises and facts.
PS: Cheat/hack issue isnt a K2 problem? WTF dude? You have the courage to say that crap and after talk about "how great sotnw will be under K2"? Wake up, if this is K2 policy hacking /cheating will be a great problem in their GE version.
I will not judge the service of k2 as I have (luckily) no past experinces with them yet, except that at the moment they are very kind, fast respondsing, listening to players etc.!
Surely this all may just be some forum / email talk.. but I really doubt that... they really seem to care much about this game and guys why not just wait for the game to be released and then look yourselve how it works out. If Knights Online was such a bad game... its not easy for a company to admint that this game is crap and easily hacked etc. They run a buisness and thus need to get the money, setting on the wrong game can always happen and is the risk of such publishers...
For now I have absolute faith that SOTNW will be a great game with a great service... but yeah you never know
Kind regards,
LD
Currently playing: Archeage Waiting for: Black Desert
Though you don't have to use the item mall, because all the items apart from character customisation (which aren't available in IAH's version at all) can be found in the game anyway. The only people that need to use the item mall are those that want their character to have pretty hair (again, not even possible in IAH's version), or those too lazy to get items in game. The item mall is a non-issue.
Gonna go with IAH too. Tried playing KO ( then Warrock was it? I forget ), and all I've had with K2 is bad experiences. Terrible support, hacks / dupes / bugs everywhere, K2's KO for me was a disaster. What a waste of a month of my life.
I'm not gonna completely write them off (GE is THAT great a game) but I sure as hell am not gonna be the first one to test the waters for sharks Myabe they have changed but I'll make someone else find out for me.
I don''t really know when Humankind will die out but i''m guessing about 6 years before WOW. -BarCrow
It has been CONFIRMED that K2 network won't use IAH's translation. Why is this rumor even there in the first place?
The F rating in the BBB is complete bull. Squarenix, one of the most respected game companies also received a D rating.
Maybe because as yourself stated K2 isnt the developer, only the publisher? Maybe because they already got a launch date for the retail version, which is in 2 months (7/10/2007), without doing CB or OB?
And again, you are making a comparison between promises and facts.
PS: Cheat/hack issue isnt a K2 problem? WTF dude? You have the courage to say that crap and after talk about "how great sotnw will be under K2"? Wake up, if this is K2 policy hacking /cheating will be a great problem in their GE version.
You don't have the full information on hacks and cheats, so don't pretend you do. The fault could be in the gamecode, which is the responsibility of the developer of the games, not K2 networks's.
While it isn't very equipment driven and in game currency isn't as important compared to other games, GE's probably going to have many, many bots just because it's very reliant on the level system, especially for people who want to do faction/colony wars, and that's one of the highlights of the game, at least for me.
And as for who I'd prefer, I'd pick IAH, simply because my previous experiences with K2 haven't been exactly wonderful. And using solely post counts to compare how the PRs are involved with the community is quite stupid. There are many other ways that a PR can be involved with the community.
And as for the speed of IAH vs. K2, we have to remember that IAH is a relatively new company, unlike K2, which has been established for much longer.
IAH owns K2!K2 has the worst servers in their games!firstly K2's games such as KOL lags,loses server connection frequently and sometimes it wont load past the login screen which also a problem that they applied to MU.War rock is just plain laggy!When there are more then 4 people and you empty a clip on somebody they die like 5 seconds later and most likely you'll die to because they probably shot you with a clip which you couldnt see due to the immense lag and both of you would die in 5 seconds.SO **** YOU K2!YOU MONEY GRUBBING LAGGER COMPANY!LONG LIVE IAH
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I voted IAH mostly because the K2 pricing scheme is terrible imo. Buy the game (?), p2p, and item mall too...
Most likely IAH will be f2p with item mall.
I feel that a game should be either 100% p2p or 100% f2p with item mall. I see too much opportunity to exploit the players by having a hybrid scheme such as this. It just seems to me K2 is going to try to get money for every little thing/feature in the game.
I don't care what they claim they are changing, in gameplay both versions will be almost the same. The only differences will be very minor.
Also K2 doesn't exactly have the best reputation with it's previous games, whereas IAH is untested yet. I think I would rather trust a newbie with a f2p scheme than a publisher with a history of complaints against it that is going to charge for it.
Finally, IAH's open beta begins today! So I can try it out first and if they suck then I can always give K2 a go later if I still have the desire to play in a few months.
For me it's IAH for the win!
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you mean this game?
It looks like diablo 2 if they took out the excitement and drew the characters using their #$%hole
It looks worse than diablo 1, has fewer enemies to fight so it looks boring, spells look cool since you have to position them and they are interesting but your stuck using them against 1 or 2 guys so it wouldnt even be much fun. Unless they showed the worst parts of the game which is possible I dont see how anyone could see this as having potential, of course this is coming from someone who doesnt care about mining and crafting.
So Meh I dont care, I stick by what I said.
Don't judge a book by its cover. k2 might be active on its forums. They might change when the game is released. A lot of games I played has gone from good to bad. Games that have GMs active on forum while the game wasn't released and/or the game is still on Beta or new, after a few months those GMs became extinct hardly on forums etc... Never ever trust a company's "promises". You'll never know if they are lying or not, K2 has a bad reputation already. So they aren't scared of screwing anymore games or screwing up their costumers.
While my stand on IAH is fairly neutral. Their team is also quick on fixing bugs. Like the steel exploit, IAH quickly fixed the problem and did some actions against who abused it. Since, the only bad thing is lag which is common in every MMORPG. IAH also said they aren't planning in banning foreign IPs, which I think their stand might change.
While IAH is fairly new and their service up to now is good, while K2 Network has a bad reputation at handling games. I'll go with IAH for GE, unless of course k2 Network improves.
The F rating in the BBB is complete bull. Squarenix, one of the most respected game companies also received a D rating.
About the F.
http://forum.knightonlineworld.com
Go and ask how much those players like K2 network. I'm playing KO since open beta, played loads of other games too and I can assure you there is no worse company around than K2. But, feel free to go and ask, you'll see you get the same answer.
Dude I played WoW and I played Lineage. Did you play KO? Do you know how K2 works? If you don't just dont bla bla about a company which you have never tried a game. I mean K2 GM AND DATABASE GOT HACKED BY SOME FOOLISH TURK!!! It's just Insane mate all Cypher server top players got hacked game is completely 100% cheat now, a 2 year old kid can easely dupe its just bloody insane mate. My PC is currently fixing so I'm on my dad's later I can bring you link to the video where the Cypher GM was hacked including the database with all users and passys.
The only thing they do is once in a few months wipe out everything that is dupe, everything. and ive lost countless armour, weapons and money because of this. Imagine the money that you've grind so hard for to buy an armour and next day log in and found its gone...
However ive not play any game by IAH, so i will not comment on them. Just to let you guys have a little insight about K2. Thanks
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Maybe because as yourself stated K2 isnt the developer, only the publisher? Maybe because they already got a launch date for the retail version, which is in 2 months (7/10/2007), without doing CB or OB?
And again, you are making a comparison between promises and facts.
PS: Cheat/hack issue isnt a K2 problem? WTF dude? You have the courage to say that crap and after talk about "how great sotnw will be under K2"? Wake up, if this is K2 policy hacking /cheating will be a great problem in their GE version.
I will not judge the service of k2 as I have (luckily) no past experinces with them yet, except that at the moment they are very kind, fast respondsing, listening to players etc.!
Surely this all may just be some forum / email talk.. but I really doubt that... they really seem to care much about this game and guys why not just wait for the game to be released and then look yourselve how it works out. If Knights Online was such a bad game... its not easy for a company to admint that this game is crap and easily hacked etc. They run a buisness and thus need to get the money, setting on the wrong game can always happen and is the risk of such publishers...
For now I have absolute faith that SOTNW will be a great game with a great service... but yeah you never know
Kind regards,
LD
Currently playing: Archeage
Waiting for: Black Desert
IAH, its a bit laggy... and no its not my fault, I got excellent connection 24mbit.
But I like the game and I hope it will only grow to improve.
K2's pricing scheme is retarded... p2p and item mall.
I'm not gonna completely write them off (GE is THAT great a game) but I sure as hell am not gonna be the first one to test the waters for sharks
I don''t really know when Humankind will die out but i''m guessing about 6 years before WOW.
-BarCrow
Maybe because as yourself stated K2 isnt the developer, only the publisher? Maybe because they already got a launch date for the retail version, which is in 2 months (7/10/2007), without doing CB or OB?
And again, you are making a comparison between promises and facts.
PS: Cheat/hack issue isnt a K2 problem? WTF dude? You have the courage to say that crap and after talk about "how great sotnw will be under K2"? Wake up, if this is K2 policy hacking /cheating will be a great problem in their GE version.
You don't have the full information on hacks and cheats, so don't pretend you do. The fault could be in the gamecode, which is the responsibility of the developer of the games, not K2 networks's.
IAH or K2, it won't be matter, this game will be infested with bots PERIOD
And as for who I'd prefer, I'd pick IAH, simply because my previous experiences with K2 haven't been exactly wonderful. And using solely post counts to compare how the PRs are involved with the community is quite stupid. There are many other ways that a PR can be involved with the community.
And as for the speed of IAH vs. K2, we have to remember that IAH is a relatively new company, unlike K2, which has been established for much longer.
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