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Ron Paul winning ABCNews.com debate poll !!!! :)
reavo
Member Posts: 2,173
SWEEEEEET!!!
I knew that if a Libertarian were ever let into the debates for President some changes would happen! America is ready for this and it's about time! I know this is not an official look into America's views but it's a great start.
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ABCnews.com Presidential debate poll
Republican presidential candidates held their first debate recently.
Who do you think came out on top at the Republican debate?
Ron Paul
It doesn't matter who won. I wouldn't put America in another Republican's hands.
Rudy Guiliani
Mitt Romney
None of them. I'm interested in the possibility of new candidates like Fred Thompson.
John McCain
Mike Huckabee
Tom Tancredo
Sam Brownback
Duncan Hunter
James Gilmore
Tommy Thompson
Total Vote: 1,840
I knew that if a Libertarian were ever let into the debates for President some changes would happen! America is ready for this and it's about time! I know this is not an official look into America's views but it's a great start.
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ABCnews.com Presidential debate poll
Republican presidential candidates held their first debate recently.
Who do you think came out on top at the Republican debate?
Ron Paul
1,634
It doesn't matter who won. I wouldn't put America in another Republican's hands.
131
Rudy Guiliani
19
Mitt Romney
19
None of them. I'm interested in the possibility of new candidates like Fred Thompson.
19
John McCain
8
Mike Huckabee
3
Tom Tancredo
3
Sam Brownback
1
Duncan Hunter
1
James Gilmore
1
Tommy Thompson
1
Total Vote: 1,840
Comments
Seriously though, he's the only candidate who has a voting record in congress that doesn't turn my stomach.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
LOL...uhh....I'm not even going to touch this one, I'm not really quite sure what to think.
ps.
Liberals are not patriotic! They hate this country and want the terrorists to win!
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
A lot of people think that the twin towers were blown up by controlled demolition and that in order for a steel building to collapse that the steel needs to actually melt...
The point?
Some people are just dumb.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
A lot of people think that the twin towers were blown up by controlled demolition and that in order for a steel building to collapse that the steel needs to actually melt...
The point?
Some people are just dumb.
He is a terrorist if you believe he illegally wiretapped Americans or did anything against the Constitution at all.
"Terrorist" isn't all BOOM BOOM...
Just disect the word terrorist for a second and you see "terror" and that means fear. Does Bush use fear to further his agenda...can I get a resounding YES? Do other terrorists use fear to further their agenda? Yes. Foreign terrorists know they can't go up head to head against Americas military and so they use other means and fear is a great one.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
A lot of people think that the twin towers were blown up by controlled demolition and that in order for a steel building to collapse that the steel needs to actually melt...
The point?
Some people are just dumb.
He is a terrorist if you believe he illegally wiretapped Americans or did anything against the Constitution at all.
"Terrorist" isn't all BOOM BOOM...
Just disect the word terrorist for a second and you see "terror" and that means fear. Does Bush use fear to further his agenda...can I get a resounding YES? Do other terrorists use fear to further their agenda? Yes. Foreign terrorists know they can't go up head to head against Americas military and so they use other means and fear is a great one.
So someone is a terrorist if they have done anything against the constitution now? This would label nearly anyone who has ever commited a crime a terrorist...It's not keeping in with the conotation of the word, nor the spirit with which it is used, it's simply a divisive attempt by people like you to discredit Bush.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
A lot of people think that the twin towers were blown up by controlled demolition and that in order for a steel building to collapse that the steel needs to actually melt...
The point?
Some people are just dumb.
He is a terrorist if you believe he illegally wiretapped Americans or did anything against the Constitution at all.
"Terrorist" isn't all BOOM BOOM...
Just disect the word terrorist for a second and you see "terror" and that means fear. Does Bush use fear to further his agenda...can I get a resounding YES? Do other terrorists use fear to further their agenda? Yes. Foreign terrorists know they can't go up head to head against Americas military and so they use other means and fear is a great one.
Terrorists are people who create fear and chaos.
they can go against the Amirican Militay System by using a rather simple strategie called: clipping the eagle's wing. Disable their airforce and the can't do anything. Just do what the brittains did in WWII: use small, light and fast vechels whit a large gun on it and drive with a number of vechiles into the airbase and destroy the airplanes as fast as you can.
A lot of people think that the twin towers were blown up by controlled demolition and that in order for a steel building to collapse that the steel needs to actually melt...
The point?
Some people are just dumb.
And a lot (3/4) of American's think Bush is a failure. I wouldn't call all of them dumb.NEWSWEEK Poll: Bush Approval Rating at Lowest, Matching Jimmy Carter...
The whole story is this. At first ABCNews.com didn't even include Ron Paul in the poll. Then they received huge amounts of emails asking to have him included. Once he was included the statement was made. It's how grassroots movements get started. It takes attention to get the momentum going. A lot of American's don't know about the Libertarian Party and a lot more who have heard of it only know about what the Conservative talk show hosts let out. Which is mostly the fringe Libertarian members. They don't want the American people to realize that there is a party that actually stands for liberty and freedom.
There is a local radio guy here that admitted such a campaign. He said that when he worked at his old radio station they were asked to only let the fringe Libertarian members through the call screening. He went along with it at first but then started to realize there was something terribly wrong when he started getting intelligent emails from members of the party asking why they weren't represented by the calls. It does go on.
I know for a fact deep down in my heart that if a Libertarian were to make it into the debates the American people would fall in love with them. All it would take is a well spoken individual to present what we really believe and the logic of it all would win the people over. I thought it was going to happen when Harry Browne (R.I.P.
...so why is MSNBC lying saying he didn't win in their own poll? And why did ABC omit Ron Paul's name from their poll after he had already destroyed his opponents?
The fix is in.
They have tried their hardest to keep us out of everything and to destroy our reputations. Just for example, when Sean Hannity talks about Libertarians, the first thing he does is call us dope smokers. I have never smoked dope in my life, know that drugs are bad, but also know that the war on drugs does not work. But Hannity doesn't want to present the case logically and fairly. Because they feel threatened by our love of freedom.
There are some Libertarian talk show hosts who are starting to get the word out. Folks like Neal Boortz. And it's going to work eventually. You can't stifle us forever.
I've seen the Libertarians operating for years. They believe in leaving me alone, they believe in small government. They are far closer to my vision of Conservatism than the Republicans are. The better they do the more tempted I am to vote for them. If I thought the party stood a chance in an election I would vote for it without hesitation. Even now, when Democrats and Republicans are increasingly the same in my eyes, I may just vote for Libertarians anyway. If I do so, and others do so, perhaps they will steadily gain strength and one day make a real run for powerful offices.
Ron Paul - Traditional Conservatism vs Nation Building
Here is information about the New Hampshire Primary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_primary#Future
I also went to a birthday party at my uncle's house the other day and talked to my uncle's new friend (I met her before but never got to know her very well) and found out she happens to be a libertarian as well! That was awesome so now i'm going to email her and get together for some activism. She also worked at the CATO institute before (I think she said she worked there as an intern).
So yeah...good stuff.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
He's got my vote, if for no other reason than to keep Clinton and/or Obama out...or Guiliani, McCain, or Romney!
EDIT: Who do you guys think would make a good running-mate for Dr. Paul?
He is a Constitutionalist. If you watched the debate you will see that he is very knowledgable about the Constitution and mentions it often, where the other candidates never mention it...it's all about my opinions, my opinions, my opinions. Ron Paul puts the Constitution first and has demonstrated that with his voting and educating America about it. Have you ever noticed that during the debate and other TV appearances, Ron Paul talks about the Constitution and pretty much teaches it through his answers to issues? The other candidates just talk about how they feel about issues with nothing to back it up but feelings.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
He never did that as far as I know. Ron Paul was a flight surgeon in the US Air Force and then after that he specialized in obstetrics/gynecology and delivered more than four thousand babies.He is a Constitutionalist. If you watched the debate you will see that he is very knowledgable about the Constitution and mentions it often, where the other candidates never mention it...it's all about my opinions, my opinions, my opinions. Ron Paul puts the Constitution first and has demonstrated that with his voting and educating America about it. Have you ever noticed that during the debate and other TV appearances, Ron Paul talks about the Constitution and pretty much teaches it through his answers to issues? The other candidates just talk about how they feel about issues with nothing to back it up but feelings.
I've never understood why people put so much faith into the constitution; it wasn't the document that got us to where we are now, but the circumstances. The constitution is by no means perfect and could stand some revisions.. especially where the power of congress is concerned....
I'd like to see how politicians would act if we actually had full control over what they do and what they earn, but that's just me, I guess.
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well republicans have proved they just screw everything up. and democrats have proved they screw things up worse just spin it better. if theres a viable alternative i don't even care what it is, i'd vote that way.
btw i did watch most of the debates and i liked paul the best. he was the single person up there that didn't seem like he was reciting a memorized answer(also the only one that actualy answered the questions actually asked to them).