what I really don't get is that all these people who want a new server think it would be any different fromt he old one after a few months. It would end up in pretty much the same state in a short period of time.
New server or old server makes little difference. If you refuse to step up and put in the teamwork and effort required to make something of yourself in EVE, you'll still just be a peon.
Originally posted by terrorantula It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Crowded? CROWDED?! I haven't seen ANYONE in the last three weeks i the systems I scuffle around in. Crowded is Jita, and Jita is the place you got to if you're a fool..
Furthermore I hope you people realize the uselessness of skills in the long run and how much fun even a T1 frig is against a vet.
Aaaand finally, one mistake and you call it "all this dev abuse"...? You know, I once got a bit too drunk and blacked out... Yet, funny enough, people don't consider me an alcoholic.. Even though I drank too much ONCE! Isn't that horrible?!
Geez, chill down and get your facts straight and we'll talk..
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW... It all sucked.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Crowded? CROWDED?!
I haven't seen ANYONE in the last three weeks i the systems I scuffle around in.
Crowded is Jita, and Jita is the place you got to if you're a fool..
Furthermore I hope you people realize the uselessness of skills in the long run and how much fun even a T1 frig is against a vet.
Aaaand finally, one mistake and you call it "all this dev abuse"...?
You know, I once got a bit too drunk and blacked out...
Yet, funny enough, people don't consider me an alcoholic.. Even though I drank too much ONCE!
Isn't that horrible?!
Geez, chill down and get your facts straight and we'll talk..
Now this is someone that plays, the game I've been playing.
I sincerely apologize for what I guess amounts to cross-posting (or hijacking a thread or whatever)... but as a fellow EVE player (who got a bit overwhelmed and frustrated by the complexity in my first and second tries at the game)... in addition to joining a corp, are there any "good" online sites or resources that can help the uninitiated (read: n00b) gain a better appreciation for skills and strategy?
Yes... I'm a fan of PRIMA cheat-shee... I mean... guides...
I sincerely apologize for what I guess amounts to cross-posting (or hijacking a thread or whatever)... but as a fellow EVE player (who got a bit overwhelmed and frustrated by the complexity in my first and second tries at the game)... in addition to joining a corp, are there any "good" online sites or resources that can help the uninitiated (read: n00b) gain a better appreciation for skills and strategy? Yes... I'm a fan of PRIMA cheat-shee... I mean... guides...
There are plenty of guides out there but why not look right beneath your feet?
Look through the stickies and read about the game. Hell I didn't have any of this when I started so you can get on without these things, you'll just get more out of your Eve Online experiance imo
Thanks so much apollo99... I sincerely want to give this game a "fair shake", but feel that without some help I just don't have the energy to research everything on my own and learn the hard way... having kids certainly sucks away the time I can commit
Thanks so much apollo99... I sincerely want to give this game a "fair shake", but feel that without some help I just don't have the energy to research everything on my own and learn the hard way... having kids certainly sucks away the time I can commit
I may have said in a previouse post somewhere here that all you have to do is join a corp to learn. Look around the recruitment forums or recruitment chat channel (in-game) to find a corp that appeals to you. This is not forgeting Eve University which I've heard is an awesome corp that helps you start your Eve life
I think that you can learn from any decent corp how to play without going through forums, you just have to make sure that you've gone through the in-game tutorial as people do get irratable if you as questions that have been answered by it.
Finally something that I would like to mention on topic. How would new players learn about Eve with in-game experiance if it's all new players on a new server? I understand there are forums but in some ways it would be like reading how to drive (if I can use this ^^). You can know the theory but you'd not know as much as someone that had been driving for years
You may say that everyone would be new like that but chances are you'll get clusters of vets in corps that might migrate over from Tranquility to dominate both servers. Either way I don't care what people say, I have a friend that just started playing (and is subbing) and he couldn't give a damn about vets being "better" than him.
what I really don't get is that all these people who want a new server think it would be any different fromt he old one after a few months. It would end up in pretty much the same state in a short period of time. New server or old server makes little difference. If you refuse to step up and put in the teamwork and effort required to make something of yourself in EVE, you'll still just be a peon.
You have a point any new server will get old in time, but at least for the new players it would be different. Instead of being handed a 800,000 sp character that EVE designed (its not really your character you got all of 3 choices that only minimally effected what you got at startup. ) one would be able to have a well thought out character the player designed. Perhaps this is more a issue with character creation that would be fixed with having a customize choice (Which both of there player guides says is in game but isn't)
Let me guess your one of the old school haves? You got yours and so anyone that might want to experience the game anew is nothing but a lazy slacker that won't bow and become a slave to your corp, oh I mean be a team player for you. Sounds alot like the old school raiding guilds if your not ready to throw away 40+ hour chuncks of your life each week then your just not a team player. Humm Eve is fun, but I guess I'll choose always being a peon then. Sorry if I'm mistaken but thats sure what your post sounded like to me.
My question is.. for a new player, is it possible with only casual playing to become one of the 'main players' of the server, and really get involved in the politics and such? My favorite part of Asheron's Call was the PvP politics and of course the PvP in general back when the game was in its prime. So obviously EVE interests me. I've gone through 4 free trials, but could never get any of my RL friends to play with me.. that might be changing luckily soon.
These days, I don't find myself having enough time to play games like I used to, though I still love MMOs.
@ Winter: I would have to say that the characters you can make at startup are very well designed. They spent alot of time on them and each one is has its purpose.
As for the Comment about one of the "Haves", stow it. Sounds a little harsh but frankly from a 2 year vet, I've heard talks of people not being about to catch up to vets for about well 2 years. It was wrong when I started, its wrong now, and it will probably be wrong still in 2 years.
Which leads me to answering Sheista question. Most of the 'Main players' haves are there not because of SP. They are the 'main players' do to thier RL leadership abilities. Fleet Commanders are not good FCs because they reached x SP. It comes from practice, experience, and the ability to stay calm under fire. CEOs and Alliance Leaders are also not "automatically" good because of SP, its there orginzation and leadership skills that keep them in a corp. This means that if you want to be one of the 'main players' as a casual player you better be DAMN good. otherwise you probably will never get a higher position in a corp since time does effect that. Command groups that aren't active usually mean that the Corp or Alliance fades away.
i'd like an eve with no pos's, no tech 2, no scan probes, no agents, no complexes, no conquerable stations, no contracts/escrow
the game was best right before exodus.
i still woudln't start playing again though. I've become racist towards europeans
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it. Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
@ Winter: I would have to say that the characters you can make at startup are very well designed. They spent alot of time on them and each one is has its purpose.
As for the Comment about one of the "Haves", stow it. Sounds a little harsh but frankly from a 2 year vet, I've heard talks of people not being about to catch up to vets for about well 2 years. It was wrong when I started, its wrong now, and it will probably be wrong still in 2 years.
Which leads me to answering Sheista question. Most of the 'Main players' haves are there not because of SP. They are the 'main players' do to thier RL leadership abilities. Fleet Commanders are not good FCs because they reached x SP. It comes from practice, experience, and the ability to stay calm under fire. CEOs and Alliance Leaders are also not "automatically" good because of SP, its there orginzation and leadership skills that keep them in a corp. This means that if you want to be one of the 'main players' as a casual player you better be DAMN good. otherwise you probably will never get a higher position in a corp since time does effect that. Command groups that aren't active usually mean that the Corp or Alliance fades away.
Do you really think the characters you get handed these days are good?! As a miner would you spend several thousand sp to get veldspar refining up to lvl 4?! (while only putting 2 in scorbit). Would you as a businessman raise day trading to level 5 for a roughly 1,000,000 sp but leave negotiating at 3? As a Industrialist would you level science to 5 also for a ton of points but make sure all your combat, ship skils etc are only level 1?!!!
The character templates Eve hands you are not IMO built for newbie players, they are built for experienced players that have a corp waiting for them the moment they login. Some of the choices such leveling refining veldspar to level 4 are just a plain waste. (currently if your a newbie your a newbie needing money your gonna be mining massive scorbite well if you stay in high sec anyway, If your a experienced player with a corp making Titans then you might want veldspar refining.) In the end like them or hate the template really don't give players much choice in who they are outside the generic Prospecter, Industrilist, etc.
As to your Stow it remark no harm taken. Just answers my question of weither your a have or have not though . The rich see things from their prospective, and feel everything is as it should be, the poor see things from theirs and feel there's need for change, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
Originally posted by winter Do you really think the characters you get handed these days are good?! As a miner would you spend several thousand sp to get veldspar refining up to lvl 4?! (while only putting 2 in scorbit). Would you as a businessman raise day trading to level 5 for a roughly 1,000,000 sp but leave negotiating at 3? As a Industrialist would you level science to 5 also for a ton of points but make sure all your combat, ship skils etc are only level 1?!!!
Looking at teh Prospecter, Pretty solid Veldspar Processing 4 not the greatest but I need to grab my spreadsheet to check minerals values by rocks. with the price check yeah its Veld is a mor valuable and having scord would be nicer but remember that the skill points have to come from somewhere. Science 5 is beautiful as it allows a miner to get into a barge just that much faster because it requires Science 5. And being as close as it is to a barge skill group I would say that thats where they plan on you moving, not your racial ships.
Plus you get the ability to learn astrogeolgy of the start which helps with your mining.
For the Buisness man that class is designed as a trader not a courier mission runner, hence the massively useful Day trading 5 and the slight less, if not worthless, skill of negotiation as it only effects the payout on missions.
Now will the industrial character be good in Combat, no he won't but then he is a new industrialist if he wanted to do combat off the start he really shouldn't have chose the Industrial path. For the most part I will say that the character sets are designed not with a trial account in mind but I wouldn't mind starting a character with one of those setups.
As for the question of being a have and have not, I'll let you decide. Here is my skill set, I have no T2 BPOs, and have scrapped, killed, and earned every ounce of isk I have made with the exception of a Few prizes I have one in contests. I have grinded missions, Been out in 0.0, traded goods, mined. I listened to those who learned the lessons before me to gain every advantage I could. When people gave advice on how to do somethign I put it into effect including commanding Combat fleets. So with that information you'll have to determine where I fall on the Have/Have not scale.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it. There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun. Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
Man! if you have to beg, that means they are not worthy 'friends'.
It would be sooo cool to start all over again and for all the noobs to be able to join and it all be where the game was in 2003. Plus EVE Online is way tooo crowded now as it is and old veterans are way too far ahead of younger players. Also all this dev abuse going on tooo, it could be a server thats clean and fun again.
Yes. I'd like to see some real PvP on a server to instead of everyone just ganking each other. Maybe some form of server with the option to avoid being preyed on by lunatics. I'd play on it.There are ways to avoid lunatics. Stay on Empire and avoid hub systems.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
Man! if you have to beg, that means they are not worthy 'friends'.What is that supposed to mean? I shouldn't have to bug people just to go somewhere.
If your corp or alliance is not willing to offer to assist in a move then you need to go else where. A good alliance don't wait for you to ask they offer to carrier jump or swing by the chokepoint on a raid to get you down there. I would say staying out of Empire and the hub system well help you alot with real pvp.
If your corp or alliance is not willing to offer to assist in a move then you need to go else where. A good alliance don't wait for you to ask they offer to carrier jump or swing by the chokepoint on a raid to get you down there. I would say staying out of Empire and the hub system well help you alot with real pvp.
What he said... Allies are there to help each other, friend.
I agree that the game cuts most players out of the good content. Those that want to avoid piracy can stay in empire but that sucks and those that want to go play in the interesting areas can't due to the jerks. The idea that someone should have to bother their friends and form a big group just to move about the universe is retarded in the extreme.
If all these people who say, "get a corp" to solve the posters' gameplay issues would recruit the posters who are having problems into their corps, maybe they could be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem.
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what I really don't get is that all these people who want a new server think it would be any different fromt he old one after a few months. It would end up in pretty much the same state in a short period of time.
New server or old server makes little difference. If you refuse to step up and put in the teamwork and effort required to make something of yourself in EVE, you'll still just be a peon.
I haven't seen ANYONE in the last three weeks i the systems I scuffle around in.
Crowded is Jita, and Jita is the place you got to if you're a fool..
Furthermore I hope you people realize the uselessness of skills in the long run and how much fun even a T1 frig is against a vet.
Aaaand finally, one mistake and you call it "all this dev abuse"...?
You know, I once got a bit too drunk and blacked out...
Yet, funny enough, people don't consider me an alcoholic.. Even though I drank too much ONCE!
Isn't that horrible?!
Geez, chill down and get your facts straight and we'll talk..
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
Crowded? CROWDED?!
I haven't seen ANYONE in the last three weeks i the systems I scuffle around in.
Crowded is Jita, and Jita is the place you got to if you're a fool..
Furthermore I hope you people realize the uselessness of skills in the long run and how much fun even a T1 frig is against a vet.
Aaaand finally, one mistake and you call it "all this dev abuse"...?
You know, I once got a bit too drunk and blacked out...
Yet, funny enough, people don't consider me an alcoholic.. Even though I drank too much ONCE!
Isn't that horrible?!
Geez, chill down and get your facts straight and we'll talk..
Now this is someone that plays, the game I've been playing.I sincerely apologize for what I guess amounts to cross-posting (or hijacking a thread or whatever)... but as a fellow EVE player (who got a bit overwhelmed and frustrated by the complexity in my first and second tries at the game)... in addition to joining a corp, are there any "good" online sites or resources that can help the uninitiated (read: n00b) gain a better appreciation for skills and strategy?
Yes... I'm a fan of PRIMA cheat-shee... I mean... guides...
EVE New Citizens Q&A - there are plenty of guides and stuff there for new players, hence the name EVE New Citizens Q&A
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Look through the stickies and read about the game. Hell I didn't have any of this when I started so you can get on without these things, you'll just get more out of your Eve Online experiance imo
I think that you can learn from any decent corp how to play without going through forums, you just have to make sure that you've gone through the in-game tutorial as people do get irratable if you as questions that have been answered by it.
Finally something that I would like to mention on topic. How would new players learn about Eve with in-game experiance if it's all new players on a new server? I understand there are forums but in some ways it would be like reading how to drive (if I can use this ^^). You can know the theory but you'd not know as much as someone that had been driving for years
You may say that everyone would be new like that but chances are you'll get clusters of vets in corps that might migrate over from Tranquility to dominate both servers. Either way I don't care what people say, I have a friend that just started playing (and is subbing) and he couldn't give a damn about vets being "better" than him.
You have a point any new server will get old in time, but at least for the new players it would be different. Instead of being handed a 800,000 sp character that EVE designed (its not really your character you got all of 3 choices that only minimally effected what you got at startup. ) one would be able to have a well thought out character the player designed. Perhaps this is more a issue with character creation that would be fixed with having a customize choice (Which both of there player guides says is in game but isn't)
Let me guess your one of the old school haves? You got yours and so anyone that might want to experience the game anew is nothing but a lazy slacker that won't bow and become a slave to your corp, oh I mean be a team player for you. Sounds alot like the old school raiding guilds if your not ready to throw away 40+ hour chuncks of your life each week then your just not a team player. Humm Eve is fun, but I guess I'll choose always being a peon then. Sorry if I'm mistaken but thats sure what your post sounded like to me.
Peace
These days, I don't find myself having enough time to play games like I used to, though I still love MMOs.
As for the Comment about one of the "Haves", stow it. Sounds a little harsh but frankly from a 2 year vet, I've heard talks of people not being about to catch up to vets for about well 2 years. It was wrong when I started, its wrong now, and it will probably be wrong still in 2 years.
Which leads me to answering Sheista question. Most of the 'Main players' haves are there not because of SP. They are the 'main players' do to thier RL leadership abilities. Fleet Commanders are not good FCs because they reached x SP. It comes from practice, experience, and the ability to stay calm under fire. CEOs and Alliance Leaders are also not "automatically" good because of SP, its there orginzation and leadership skills that keep them in a corp. This means that if you want to be one of the 'main players' as a casual player you better be DAMN good. otherwise you probably will never get a higher position in a corp since time does effect that. Command groups that aren't active usually mean that the Corp or Alliance fades away.
the game was best right before exodus.
i still woudln't start playing again though. I've become racist towards europeans
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro
if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
No more server, kthx. Tranquility is fine
Do you really think the characters you get handed these days are good?!
The character templates Eve hands you are not IMO built for newbie players, they are built for experienced players that have a corp waiting for them the moment they login. Some of the choices such leveling refining veldspar to level 4 are just a plain waste. (currently if your a newbie your a newbie needing money your gonna be mining massive scorbite well if you stay in high sec anyway, If your a experienced player with a corp making Titans then you might want veldspar refining.) In the end like them or hate the template really don't give players much choice in who they are outside the generic Prospecter, Industrilist, etc.
As to your Stow it remark no harm taken. Just answers my question of weither your a have or have not though
. The rich see things from their prospective, and feel everything is as it should be, the poor see things from theirs and feel there's need for change, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
Peace
Plus you get the ability to learn astrogeolgy of the start which helps with your mining.
For the Buisness man that class is designed as a trader not a courier mission runner, hence the massively useful Day trading 5 and the slight less, if not worthless, skill of negotiation as it only effects the payout on missions.
Now will the industrial character be good in Combat, no he won't but then he is a new industrialist if he wanted to do combat off the start he really shouldn't have chose the Industrial path. For the most part I will say that the character sets are designed not with a trial account in mind but I wouldn't mind starting a character with one of those setups.
As for the question of being a have and have not, I'll let you decide. Here is my skill set, I have no T2 BPOs, and have scrapped, killed, and earned every ounce of isk I have made with the exception of a Few prizes I have one in contests. I have grinded missions, Been out in 0.0, traded goods, mined. I listened to those who learned the lessons before me to gain every advantage I could. When people gave advice on how to do somethign I put it into effect including commanding Combat fleets. So with that information you'll have to determine where I fall on the Have/Have not scale.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun. Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
Man! if you have to beg, that means they are not worthy 'friends'.
Which effectively cuts me out of half of the game. That's not really a solution. I tried joining a big 0.0 alliance and couldn't even get to their area of space. After being podkilled repeatedly for no reason at all I finally decided to go play something that's actually fun.Ask them to go pick you up. You are their buddy now.When I have to beg for help just to go somewhere I know it's time to play a better game.
Man! if you have to beg, that means they are not worthy 'friends'.What is that supposed to mean? I shouldn't have to bug people just to go somewhere.
I agree that the game cuts most players out of the good content. Those that want to avoid piracy can stay in empire but that sucks and those that want to go play in the interesting areas can't due to the jerks. The idea that someone should have to bother their friends and form a big group just to move about the universe is retarded in the extreme.
If all these people who say, "get a corp" to solve the posters' gameplay issues would recruit the posters who are having problems into their corps, maybe they could be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem.
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"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE