Let me just throw this spanner into the works... heheh
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics" - Benjamin Disraeli
Even so, I can't add much else to this debate other than to commend the excellent point made by Templarga, and to say I gave LOTRO 8-point-something in the vote, which I stand by. It's a great game, and like all great things, people either like it or don't. It's really no big deal - I'm having fun, and a little like the OP - I'm quietly chuckling at the people who insisted it would fail somehow.
After forking out for the lifetime sub, I have an MMO that I don't have to worry about subbing for again. I'm confident that the fun will last a long time for me.
To bad it sucks after lvl40-45, feels like a beta with to less content. Also no pvp rewards yet
Really like the first 40-45 lvls but now im lvl47 I'm not sure if I will subscribe after my first free month ends. Might wait a while till the expansions come....hope the juni one is good.
To bad it sucks after lvl40-45, feels like a beta with to less content. Also no pvp rewards yet Really like the first 40-45 lvls but now im lvl47 I'm not sure if I will subscribe after my first free month ends. Might wait a while till the expansions come....hope the juni one is good.
Er..ever think maybe you play too much?
Take a breath, get some air.... get out more....
But i agree, I'm holding off on casting my vote for the game until after I get up to the same levels as you, because I think its disingenious to vote for something without experiencing the full content including the end game, or lack thereof......
Hopefully they'll flesh out the upper level content in the next expansion to give you some more entertainment.....
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Turbine made this game for 1 purpose only - money. The game might apear fun at the beginning, but unless they have an ultra-hyper-innovative and addictive endgame (witch i highly doubt judging from the rest of the game) I give it a couple of months, maby a year before people start leaving due to a strong dejavu feeling.
Really the only reason they made this game was to make money. Lets look at that. They gave all who preordered the game a 5 dollar a month discount on monthly sub. Or the option to pay a one time fee for a lifetime sub. If they were after money and nothing but money they would not of done this. They would of let people pre order and charged them the 15 dollars a month like they charged everyone else. sorry but it does not sound to me like their only motivation was to make money. Of course they want to make money as any company does but it is not the only purpose. A company that is after nothing but money doesn't give discounts on subs when they don't have too.
To get to that level that quick.. is obvious that your character is one crap weak character with probably the crappest armour you can get for that level. You should take it easy. I can imagine players like you with quick lvl characters being extremely weak in Monster PVP and having to go back to lvl 1 and start again PROPERLY. I dont expect to get to that level for another 6months. I like to play slow and when i get to that level.. i will be Hugely rich and be kitted out to be deadly in Monster PVP. in short get a life.
lol I play on the EU servers, pretty normal to have a lvl40+. Work during the day so mainly play in the weekend. I have more then enough cash, around 10g + mount and just normal purple armor/weapons from quests. They are better then most craft stuff. From lvl40 legendary traits start dropping so got 2 out of 3 already. We even start playing monster play with whole guilds, that shows how many high lvls there are already. But no reward from monsterplay so wont stay fun for long. The 50s just started with the first raid instance.
Turbine made this game for 1 purpose only - money.
Yes, and the alternative is what's happening at Sigil -- According to reports (you can find them yourself) Sigil has fired a whole gaggle of employees. That's sad really. Now I'm pretty liberal, but even I see that MMOs need to make profits. This isn't some Marxist utopia for godsakes. LOTRO is making money, no one will be fired (at least not in the short run)...so yeah, it's a good thing. Welcome to reality.
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Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
Right now everyone loves to hate WoW because they do so many things right that people have given this game high marks purely in spite. It's a downward spiral really.......you'll see.
They followed the WOW modle. Zero innovation...decent execution....feel good setting.
Or they could have been innovators, like the teams at VG and D&L.
I am glad they didn't follow VG and D&L and try to promise that wich they couldn't deliver. This game is great the way it is. A game does not need to be innovative to be fun to play. So far LOTRO proving that. Just as WOW proved it, The original zero innovative game of this century.
Right now everyone loves to hate WoW because they do so many things right that people have given this game high marks purely in spite. It's a downward spiral really.......you'll see.
this has got to be the most idiotic statement. Out of spite? Cmon, I played WoW myself and close to 2 1/2 years, so you must guess I loved it. But to say people play LoTRO out of spite for WoW. Cmon!??! WoW is coming to 3 years soon with only 1 Expansion. Its the same ole same ole till you get to level 70. People want to try something different, and most agree LoTRO is a breathe of fresh air to the MMO market.
Right now everyone loves to hate WoW because they do so many things right that people have given this game high marks purely in spite. It's a downward spiral really.......you'll see.
this has got to be the most idiotic statement. Out of spite? Cmon, I played WoW myself and close to 2 1/2 years, so you must guess I loved it. But to say people play LoTRO out of spite for WoW. Cmon!??! WoW is coming to 3 years soon with only 1 Expansion. Its the same ole same ole till you get to level 70. People want to try something different, and most agree LoTRO is a breathe of fresh air to the MMO market.
You are a bright one! You didn't miss my complete sarcastic point at all!
LOTRO = fresh air to the MMO market? Sure. It's the first MMO to come along in a very long time that is worth checking out. Does that mean it does anything right? Nope.
Originally posted by zeuseason LOTRO = fresh air to the MMO market? Sure. It's the first MMO to come along in a very long time that is worth checking out. Does that mean it does anything right? Nope.
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference.
Here are things LOTRO has done right:
1). Highly polished game.
2). By most accounts, a solid launch.
3). Relatively bug free
4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems.
5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry.
That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right.
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Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
Originally posted by zeuseason LOTRO = fresh air to the MMO market? Sure. It's the first MMO to come along in a very long time that is worth checking out. Does that mean it does anything right? Nope.
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference.
Here are things LOTRO has done right:
1). Highly polished game.
How is it polished? You need to define yourself 2). By most accounts, a solid launch. 3). Relatively bug free I would say this comment belongs with #1? 4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems. Actually, I would beg to differ. It seems from reading up some performance reviews on this website, it seems the game is actually forgiving only to older systems. Anyone who has a duo-core CPU with a LCD monitor will had a fair amount of lag, unless they have a high amount of ram or a $400 video card.
5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry.
Again, "content-rich" can be counted as highly polished? You need to make yourself clear when providing evidence for your argument, or else you sound unorganized and therefore not very convincing That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right. You're right, but nobody can tell from your post that LoTRO has done some things right.
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference. Here are things LOTRO has done right: 1). Highly polished game. Polished? Whats polished? The incredibly fluid combat system? No wait, maybe it's the well thought out and planned questing system that completely dies off at level 35. 2). By most accounts, a solid launch. You can say solid launch, but I say weak. 3). Relatively bug free Relative is a very general term..... 4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems. Browse the Turbine forums much? Thousands of posts about 'hitching' & 'lag'. If you don't have an up-to-date system, you'll never be able to take advantage of one of the game's better assets. A bad thing? Not really. 5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry. I can't compare pixels, but rumor has it the content available at launch is a spec on some 'other' MMO's maps. The zones aren't bad as I've seen them all, but I wouldn't brag this as a 'content-rich' launch. That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right.
Not to discredit, but it's pure opinion. The two things LOTRO did right is Graphics & Sound. It's very clear where Turbine spent most of their time and attention to detail.
and who cares about lotro anyway? ... I am more excited about games that will not come out for another year ...
......what is this? What colour I post in is none of your concern, especially when I wasn't replying to your post. And I'm not even going to comment on the second part of your post, since I don't want to embarrass you any further.
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference. Here are things LOTRO has done right: 1). Highly polished game. Polished? Whats polished? The incredibly fluid combat system? No wait, maybe it's the well thought out and planned questing system that completely dies off at level 35. 2). By most accounts, a solid launch. You can say solid launch, but I say weak. 3). Relatively bug free Relative is a very general term..... 4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems. Browse the Turbine forums much? Thousands of posts about 'hitching' & 'lag'. If you don't have an up-to-date system, you'll never be able to take advantage of one of the game's better assets. A bad thing? Not really. 5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry. I can't compare pixels, but rumor has it the content available at launch is a spec on some 'other' MMO's maps. The zones aren't bad as I've seen them all, but I wouldn't brag this as a 'content-rich' launch. That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right.
Not to discredit, but it's pure opinion. The two things LOTRO did right is Graphics & Sound. It's very clear where Turbine spent most of their time and attention to detail.
Oh yeah, I completely agree with you, but I just thought he misrepresented it. I don't want people to think LoTRO is just some game that deserves a few complimentary words that have not been defined.
and who cares about lotro anyway? ... I am more excited about games that will not come out for another year ...
......what is this? What colour I post in is none of your concern, especially when I wasn't replying to your post. And I'm not even going to comment on the second part of your post, since I don't want to embarrass you any further.
and who cares about lotro anyway? ... I am more excited about games that will not come out for another year ...
......what is this? What colour I post in is none of your concern, especially when I wasn't replying to your post. And I'm not even going to comment on the second part of your post, since I don't want to embarrass you any further.
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Let me just throw this spanner into the works... heheh
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics" - Benjamin Disraeli
Even so, I can't add much else to this debate other than to commend the excellent point made by Templarga, and to say I gave LOTRO 8-point-something in the vote, which I stand by. It's a great game, and like all great things, people either like it or don't. It's really no big deal - I'm having fun, and a little like the OP - I'm quietly chuckling at the people who insisted it would fail somehow.
After forking out for the lifetime sub, I have an MMO that I don't have to worry about subbing for again. I'm confident that the fun will last a long time for me.
One other point that should not be overlooked on the plus side for LotRO.
Turbine released a STABLE game that was reasonably tested to remove major bugs before they asked people to pay them.
It is nice to see a development company that understands that players should not be made to spend money for beta-testing.
To bad it sucks after lvl40-45, feels like a beta with to less content. Also no pvp rewards yet
Really like the first 40-45 lvls but now im lvl47 I'm not sure if I will subscribe after my first free month ends. Might wait a while till the expansions come....hope the juni one is good.
Take a breath, get some air.... get out more....
But i agree, I'm holding off on casting my vote for the game until after I get up to the same levels as you, because I think its disingenious to vote for something without experiencing the full content including the end game, or lack thereof......
Hopefully they'll flesh out the upper level content in the next expansion to give you some more entertainment.....
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Really the only reason they made this game was to make money. Lets look at that. They gave all who preordered the game a 5 dollar a month discount on monthly sub. Or the option to pay a one time fee for a lifetime sub. If they were after money and nothing but money they would not of done this. They would of let people pre order and charged them the 15 dollars a month like they charged everyone else. sorry but it does not sound to me like their only motivation was to make money. Of course they want to make money as any company does but it is not the only purpose. A company that is after nothing but money doesn't give discounts on subs when they don't have too.
Maybe the rest of the MMO Devs can use this as a learning experience. Make a game that people enjoy and they will buy it. Wonders never cease.I miss DAoC
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Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
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I am glad they didn't follow VG and D&L and try to promise that wich they couldn't deliver. This game is great the way it is. A game does not need to be innovative to be fun to play. So far LOTRO proving that. Just as WOW proved it, The original zero innovative game of this century.
this has got to be the most idiotic statement. Out of spite? Cmon, I played WoW myself and close to 2 1/2 years, so you must guess I loved it. But to say people play LoTRO out of spite for WoW. Cmon!??! WoW is coming to 3 years soon with only 1 Expansion. Its the same ole same ole till you get to level 70. People want to try something different, and most agree LoTRO is a breathe of fresh air to the MMO market.
this has got to be the most idiotic statement. Out of spite? Cmon, I played WoW myself and close to 2 1/2 years, so you must guess I loved it. But to say people play LoTRO out of spite for WoW. Cmon!??! WoW is coming to 3 years soon with only 1 Expansion. Its the same ole same ole till you get to level 70. People want to try something different, and most agree LoTRO is a breathe of fresh air to the MMO market.
You are a bright one! You didn't miss my complete sarcastic point at all!
LOTRO = fresh air to the MMO market? Sure. It's the first MMO to come along in a very long time that is worth checking out. Does that mean it does anything right? Nope.
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference.
Here are things LOTRO has done right:
1). Highly polished game.
2). By most accounts, a solid launch.
3). Relatively bug free
4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems.
5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry.
That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right.
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Currently Playing: LOTRO; DDO
Played: AC2, AO, Auto Assault, CoX, DAoC, DDO, Earth&Beyond, EQ1, EQ2, EVE, Fallen Earth, Jumpgate, Roma Victor, Second Life, SWG, V:SoH, WoW, World War II Online.
Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
Find the Truth: http://www.factcheck.org/
Does that mean it does anything right? Anything? Yes. Everything? No. There's a difference, and unless you want your arguments to be easily refuted, you should appreciate the difference.
Here are things LOTRO has done right:
1). Highly polished game.
How is it polished? You need to define yourself2). By most accounts, a solid launch.
3). Relatively bug free
I would say this comment belongs with #1?
4). A game that can run well on a variety of systems.
Actually, I would beg to differ. It seems from reading up some performance reviews on this website, it seems the game is actually forgiving only to older systems. Anyone who has a duo-core CPU with a LCD monitor will had a fair amount of lag, unless they have a high amount of ram or a $400 video card.
5). One of the most content-rich launches ever seen in the industry.
Again, "content-rich" can be counted as highly polished? You need to make yourself clear when providing evidence for your argument, or else you sound unorganized and therefore not very convincing
That is just a few things off the top of my head, but it is enough to prove that LOTRO has indeed done some things right.
You're right, but nobody can tell from your post that LoTRO has done some things right.
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and who cares about lotro anyway? ... I am more excited about games that will not come out for another year ...
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Oh yeah, I completely agree with you, but I just thought he misrepresented it. I don't want people to think LoTRO is just some game that deserves a few complimentary words that have not been defined.
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