It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
yeah because there won't be any flames on the official forums . Up to know we've only seen a taste of consumer backlash because players didn't have a proper channel to vent. What comes next will be truely entertaining
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
i'm glad you guys are getting your own forums, glad that the game will go on also sad to see its hard for others to understand people like what the like and don't seem to respect that. I could have trashed the game, i had lots of complaints, but i also had hopes they would fix alot of things so i could finally try it out and it seems they will do so. Anyways i'm glad you all who love the game will continue to be able to play it.
Gamer's have forgotton to respect each other on both sides, really sad.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Yeah..
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Yeah..
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.
I'm sorry, but did i ask you too? You think to highly of yourself.
I played Vanguard, like allot of thing, Detested many others, posted about them, was labeled a hater, and unsubed.
Because as we all know, not liking one aspect of a game means you MUST hate the entirety of it.
Next?
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Excuse me I don't jsut bitch about the game. I discuss it. I say what I do not like and then make suggestions on what they can do to fix it. Unlike some of you that just come in here and bitch and moan about Brad, about SOE, about Vangaurd, about this game sucks and this game is going to be dead and it is trash and whatever.
Atleast when you come in here you could discuss it and give suggestions on what you'd like to see them do. Oh wait, you can't, it is beyond you. So enjoy this forum as it becomes a infested place of nothing but you guys moaning about how Vanguard sucks. Enjoy your board.
Excuse me I don't jsut bitch about the game. I discuss it. I say what I do not like and then make suggestions on what they can do to fix it. Unlike some of you that just come in here and bitch and moan about Brad, about SOE, about Vangaurd, about this game sucks and this game is going to be dead and it is trash and whatever. Atleast when you come in here you could discuss it and give suggestions on what you'd like to see them do. Oh wait, you can't, it is beyond you. So enjoy this forum as it becomes a infested place of nothing but you guys moaning about how Vanguard sucks. Enjoy your board.
I did.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
Excuse me I don't jsut bitch about the game. I discuss it. I say what I do not like and then make suggestions on what they can do to fix it. Unlike some of you that just come in here and bitch and moan about Brad, about SOE, about Vangaurd, about this game sucks and this game is going to be dead and it is trash and whatever. Atleast when you come in here you could discuss it and give suggestions on what you'd like to see them do. Oh wait, you can't, it is beyond you. So enjoy this forum as it becomes a infested place of nothing but you guys moaning about how Vanguard sucks. Enjoy your board.
It's pretty sad that it took an act of SOE to bring the official forums up.
I kind of wish they had bought Sigil 6 months ago, maybe then I'd still be playing Vanguard instead of lauging at all the "Official Forums are teh evilz cuz lord aradune mcquaid saidz so" Vanboys.
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
Shae if people here actually discuss and didn't flame then your point is worth noting and yes I agree we have had some decent discussions on these forums. However, as of late, MMORPG.com mods don't really seem to care what the bashers and haters are doing to this forum or they would be in here cleaning out the scum and letting us fans discuss this game in a rational manner. As you can see by the number of post by many of those that have suddenly reappeared out of nowhere(like the roaches they are) the MODs on these boards would rather have haters and bashers rather than fans of this game.
Just go through the post on this forum and all you see primarily is peopel bashing the fans of this game or the game or SOE or Sigil and do they actually contribute to the conversations - no. They just do drive by posting bashing and slamming anything related to Vanguard. I'll tell you what I'll gladly continue to post here if the MODS clean this place up. They can prove it by deleting half the BS post that have come into this forum in the past couple of days.
So that we people that enjoy the game can discuss it without all the noise from people that do not even play the game.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
Shae if people here actually discuss and didn't flame then your point is worth noting and yes I agree we have had some decent discussions on these forums. However, as of late, MMORPG.com mods don't really seem to care what the bashers and haters are doing to this forum or they would be in here cleaning out the scum and letting us fans discuss this game in a rational manner. As you can see by the number of post by many of those that have suddenly reappeared out of nowhere(like the roaches they are) the MODs on these boards would rather have haters and bashers rather than fans of this game.
Just go through the post on this forum and all you see primarily is peopel bashing the fans of this game or the game or SOE or Sigil and do they actually contribute to the conversations - no. They just do drive by posting bashing and slamming anything related to Vanguard. I'll tell you what I'll gladly continue to post here if the MODS clean this place up. They can prove it by deleting half the BS post that have come into this forum in the past couple of days.
They would have to actually fire, or get rid of some of their own MMORPG.com associates as well. As I have seen a few MMORPG writers and etc doing the same immature behavior that the bashers do. Basically supporting the flame wars and trolls.
To me MMORPG.com has invited too many kids to be associated with their rankings and in the long run, no matter how nice their site looks they will lose their professionalism and their popularity. I for one have already started visiting elsewhere for my MMO news and it has been many topics on other boards that MMORPG is losing their touch and respect in the gaming community. The lack of forum rule enforcment is one of the major issues that will cripple MMORPG.com's future.
I believe that VG should have had a forum all along but they didn't have the manpower to moderate it with all the negativity. I've already been over there and it was a batch of people with rose colored glasses and any "bad posts" were cut. If I'm searching for a game to play I don't want to go to the main site, I want to go where people are free to post the good, the bad and the ugly. It is why FOH and F13, and MMORPG and other sites are popular. If Game "A" completely blows Gamespot might give it a 7.5 but Joe Forum guy might tell you exactly what the deal is with footnotes.
I'm sorry a few of you are offended by all the negative VG opinion but Sigil and Brad screwed up about as bad as you can possibly screw up.
Game released a year early
35 million blown before game is ready
50 people fired (would've been 100 if SOE hadn't stepped in)
Sold game and company back to the people they tried to get away from to begin with
Dumped by Microsoft
CEO hid in his house for all of 2007 and didn't even show up for work
Game got mediocre reviews due to bugginess and lack of content
Game released on the same month as the burning crusade
Game was changed weekly because no one knew what was going on
These are just a few things and as you can see this is HUGE!! It's going to be a topic for months to come as jobless developers rant on blogs and more news comes forward and it doesn't hurt that most people were just calming down over the NGE, Brad leaving EQI, and EQII not being up to par when it released. Sorry but even if every "hater" left MMORPG today, others would come as this spreads.
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
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Gamer's have forgotton to respect each other on both sides, really sad.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Yeah..
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
*shakes head*
"So SOE will never ever take over the game" turned out to be false afterall.
Why am I not shocked.
Half of those who shed their blood, sweat and tears working on the game let go, but the dufus (Brad) in charge kept on to still get a salary.
Why am I not shocked.
Hopefully this will teach a lesson to those who blindly follow a game/developer without pointing out their mistakes.
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
I'm sorry, but did i ask you too? You think to highly of yourself.
I played Vanguard, like allot of thing, Detested many others, posted about them, was labeled a hater, and unsubed.
Because as we all know, not liking one aspect of a game means you MUST hate the entirety of it.
Next?
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
I'm sorry, but did i ask you too? You think to highly of yourself.
I played Vanguard, like allot of thing, Detested many others, posted about them, was labeled a hater, and unsubed.
Because as we all know, not liking one aspect of a game means you MUST hate the entirety of it.
Next?
Awwww....
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
I'm sorry, but did i ask you too? You think to highly of yourself.
I played Vanguard, like allot of thing, Detested many others, posted about them, was labeled a hater, and unsubed.
Because as we all know, not liking one aspect of a game means you MUST hate the entirety of it.
Next?
Awwww.... pot, kettle
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
I'm sorry, but did i ask you too? You think to highly of yourself.
I played Vanguard, like allot of thing, Detested many others, posted about them, was labeled a hater, and unsubed.
Because as we all know, not liking one aspect of a game means you MUST hate the entirety of it.
Next?
Awwww.... pot, kettle
No kidding. And so it continues.
Excuse me I don't jsut bitch about the game. I discuss it. I say what I do not like and then make suggestions on what they can do to fix it. Unlike some of you that just come in here and bitch and moan about Brad, about SOE, about Vangaurd, about this game sucks and this game is going to be dead and it is trash and whatever.
Atleast when you come in here you could discuss it and give suggestions on what you'd like to see them do. Oh wait, you can't, it is beyond you. So enjoy this forum as it becomes a infested place of nothing but you guys moaning about how Vanguard sucks. Enjoy your board.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
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They better not let outsiders post on these forums cause the mods will be very busy deleting posts and banning people from there.
So...No more Teala and Healz4u on these forums??
Sounds great to me! Thanks be to Sony!
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I kind of wish they had bought Sigil 6 months ago, maybe then I'd still be playing Vanguard instead of lauging at all the "Official Forums are teh evilz cuz lord aradune mcquaid saidz so" Vanboys.
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Life sucks, buy a helmet.
Its means the critics wont be silenced for fear of loosing "Affiliated" status, as they once were.
Awww...nobody around to hear you whine. I weep nothing for you.Yeah..
You must be with healz4u, same sort of corrupted logic.
I think I have a pair of footwear that names sounds similar to you: 'flip-flop'...'flip-flop'
Vanguard is still in the same state it was at launch, a few things may have been airbrushed and touched up, but the core of the game is broken.
Want to play something that resembles what Vanguard should have been, with all the hype rammed down gamers throats?
Try EverQuest 2.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
Shae if people here actually discuss and didn't flame then your point is worth noting and yes I agree we have had some decent discussions on these forums. However, as of late, MMORPG.com mods don't really seem to care what the bashers and haters are doing to this forum or they would be in here cleaning out the scum and letting us fans discuss this game in a rational manner. As you can see by the number of post by many of those that have suddenly reappeared out of nowhere(like the roaches they are) the MODs on these boards would rather have haters and bashers rather than fans of this game.
Just go through the post on this forum and all you see primarily is peopel bashing the fans of this game or the game or SOE or Sigil and do they actually contribute to the conversations - no. They just do drive by posting bashing and slamming anything related to Vanguard. I'll tell you what I'll gladly continue to post here if the MODS clean this place up. They can prove it by deleting half the BS post that have come into this forum in the past couple of days.
It's funny how things change, isn't it Teala?
Not even 11 days ago you creating posts about what Sigil needed to do to make Vanguard a good game, before that you even said and this is a quote here "Vanguard like Lineage II and other games of their ilk are dinosaurs and need to put to rest." (Link). In your post on April 26th (Linky), which I largely agreed with by the way, you go on to give a pretty personal oppinion of what you feel the game needs to succeed going to say "Frankly, I don't care what the hardcore crowd wants...".
WOW Teala that all seems pretty oppinionated to me, and maybe, just maybe, alot of people would even consider that noice that people who play game might not have wanted to read in the Vanguard forum. Now all of a sudden over the last few days, all you is write, LOL this and LMAO that at peopel who don't share this new love Vanguard you've seemed to have developed.
I completely respect your oppinion on the game and I'm really, truely happy you're enjoying yourself but maybe, your being a little one sided now? Just a thought Teala.
You're right and I stick by what I say. Vanguard "as is" needs to be put to sleep. I then went on to explain what they could do to make it better. It doesn't need to be so dang time consuming and I will continue to be critcal of the game and its development. I ahve always been critical of it. I don't not wish this game to flop I wish to see it succeed. It wasn't garnering any love with how it was so it needed changed. The changes mentioned in my post. The need to seriously relax the exp rewards and quest rewards. Fix the performance issues. Games that played like EQ where you ahd to be in a group and you had to literally live the game to progress, games like Lineage II, Vanguard (2 months ago ) are dinosaurs. They need to just die. Hopefully SOE will see this and make it easier for players to progress through the game whether that be solo or grouped and just have fun. if we must grind that is not fun.
That is how I feel and I will stick by it. Sorry.
I'm not critisizing what you say or how you say it Teala, I have neither the right nor the inclination to do so.
The point I was trying to make to you, which you dissmissed to readily, is that people have (agreed, not all) read and taken your points of view into account and actually contributed to your conversations and now all your doing is going around laughing at people and saying how much you want to leave and be around people that only want it to succeed?
Again, I ask, does did not seem a little off to you? Maybe, again just maybe, you should hold yourself so high above the rest of us here. True we may not all agree with you but many oppinions here tend to be valid and well written out.
Shae if people here actually discuss and didn't flame then your point is worth noting and yes I agree we have had some decent discussions on these forums. However, as of late, MMORPG.com mods don't really seem to care what the bashers and haters are doing to this forum or they would be in here cleaning out the scum and letting us fans discuss this game in a rational manner. As you can see by the number of post by many of those that have suddenly reappeared out of nowhere(like the roaches they are) the MODs on these boards would rather have haters and bashers rather than fans of this game.
Just go through the post on this forum and all you see primarily is peopel bashing the fans of this game or the game or SOE or Sigil and do they actually contribute to the conversations - no. They just do drive by posting bashing and slamming anything related to Vanguard. I'll tell you what I'll gladly continue to post here if the MODS clean this place up. They can prove it by deleting half the BS post that have come into this forum in the past couple of days.
They would have to actually fire, or get rid of some of their own MMORPG.com associates as well. As I have seen a few MMORPG writers and etc doing the same immature behavior that the bashers do. Basically supporting the flame wars and trolls.
To me MMORPG.com has invited too many kids to be associated with their rankings and in the long run, no matter how nice their site looks they will lose their professionalism and their popularity. I for one have already started visiting elsewhere for my MMO news and it has been many topics on other boards that MMORPG is losing their touch and respect in the gaming community. The lack of forum rule enforcment is one of the major issues that will cripple MMORPG.com's future.
I believe that VG should have had a forum all along but they didn't have the manpower to moderate it with all the negativity. I've already been over there and it was a batch of people with rose colored glasses and any "bad posts" were cut. If I'm searching for a game to play I don't want to go to the main site, I want to go where people are free to post the good, the bad and the ugly. It is why FOH and F13, and MMORPG and other sites are popular. If Game "A" completely blows Gamespot might give it a 7.5 but Joe Forum guy might tell you exactly what the deal is with footnotes.
I'm sorry a few of you are offended by all the negative VG opinion but Sigil and Brad screwed up about as bad as you can possibly screw up.
These are just a few things and as you can see this is HUGE!! It's going to be a topic for months to come as jobless developers rant on blogs and more news comes forward and it doesn't hurt that most people were just calming down over the NGE, Brad leaving EQI, and EQII not being up to par when it released. Sorry but even if every "hater" left MMORPG today, others would come as this spreads.