Blah blah blah blah blah. They still provide updates. The game is still moving foward. Go play your level and gear based, carebear pvp game. We all know when DF comes out ull be there playing.
Oh and please tell me how it will be outdated? Name the game with features even close to Darkfall?
Go play your level and gear based, carebear pvp game.
LOL I couldn't of said it better myself. Level and gear based games become outdated. A hardcore Skill based MMORPG live on forever. Just look at UO. Well said Strongaxe.
I'm not bashing AoC, but it is going to be a carebear PvP like it or not. They are going after the $ and not the longevity.
It's funny that the only defence the blind faith DF fanboys can come up with when DF is put up against other obviously superior titles in development is to say , "go play your gear based newbie games".
I have some news for you. Darkfall IS NOT THE ONLY PVP GAME AROUND and will never begin to approach the quality of PvP that games like World of Warcraft ALREADY provide. plz wake up.
It's funny that the only defence the blind faith DF fanboys can come up with when DF is put up against other obviously superior titles in development is to say , "go play your gear based newbie games". I have some news for you. Darkfall IS NOT THE ONLY PVP GAME AROUND and will never begin to approach the quality of PvP that games like World of Warcraft ALREADY provide. plz wake up. thnks you for your time.
Quality of PvP game? WoW? You got to be kidding me.
It's gear based, rock paper and scissors, no world PvP since their client and server can't handle it, all the action is instanced, it's just farming, the arena just becomes more tedious in the when you gain 1-4 rating each game but if you happen to loose you loose 25-30 rating and the arena points only stack up to 5k.
BG's? Just an honor farm, after farming BG's every weekend it becomes just plain boring, sometimes it can be fun to just do it for stats or run premades with your guild.
WoW PvP is just plain old farming, the arena is all about restraint to keep your rating high enough.
Most people who knows what the PvP in MMORPG is really about is yearning for DFO since most MMO's these days tend to go towards the match-making, non-dynamic, plain and simple instant action that multiplayer games offer since it appeals to the wider audience. Whilst most of us who remembers what the premise of PvP in MMORPG's is all about, a sandbox enviroment with open and dynamic pvp warfare.
Originally posted by Lypen It's funny that the only defence the blind faith DF fanboys can come up with when DF is put up against other obviously superior titles in development is to say, "go play your gear based newbie games".
IMO, nothing more needs to be said. Plenty of people have already quit games like WoW, or even the MMO genre as a whole, because they are sick and tired of playing exactly what AoC is going to be: a gear-whoring raid-fest. Sure, there are supposedly player cities and PvP, but I have no doubt in my mind that these will be little more than mini-games for people to participate in between raids.
What I find funny is all the people who don't bother to read the feature list or the updates, and automatically assume that games like AoC are "obviously superior" to Darkfall.
PVE anyway. Its pvp is indeed a joke. Most pvp in MMOs is rather skill less.
I do see where group MMO pvp, where you are working together to take a structure or strategic point, would be great fun. It would involve strategy timing and even should i say skill from a teamwork perspective.
But one on one pvp in a level and gear based environment is a joke. It has very little to do with skill. People bragging about pwning opponents in 1v1 or ganknig is really quite silly. You arent bad ass when you kill the undergeared noob.
If your opponent is equal in allways like in a FPS then you have a better foundation for claiming skill and pwnage.
Anyway I would like to see big group pvp action, skill or gear based in a game where your actions impact the game world. WOW pvp sucks for that agreed completely.
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It's funny that the only defence the blind faith DF fanboys can come up with when DF is put up against other obviously superior titles in development is to say , "go play your gear based newbie games". I have some news for you. Darkfall IS NOT THE ONLY PVP GAME AROUND and will never begin to approach the quality of PvP that games like World of Warcraft ALREADY provide. plz wake up. thnks you for your time.
Is this supposed to be sarcasm? If not, then it seems like WoW is the only game you have ever played
It's so annoying when those people come and keep saying that it won't get released. I mean, why the hell do you care? If you weren't interested you really wouldn't give a damn. It's like saying that runescape won't get a major content patch (example only, I don't even play runescape), I mean why would anyone care?
Dude, you go play your game and I'll play mine, enough with all this "won't get released" bs. If it doesn't, then too bad for the people who waited, if it does, then sweet. No use saying that shit over and over again mindlessly for no reason at all. And seriously, if you're not utterly anxious about this game, like a hell lot of people around these forums are, then you really should go play one of those crappy actual mmo's around. This is the worst mmo generation so far, and yet you people still have to go say "go play AoC". It indeed has potential, but noone's certain that it's not gonna end being an item-based unbalanced pvp game. At least we're certain that Darkfall won't be item-based and that it'll have hardcore pvp, and IMHO it's pretty much enough for today's patterns.
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...And go sign up for the AoC beta. This game is never coming out and even if it did it'd already be outdated.
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Here! Here!! Hensen! Now i know contraversy is normal for a growing game but please people you dont have to spam the forums with threads like this i mean you didnt even have to make this thread there are tons of other threads like this saying the same thing you are, go post on those!!!
Blah blah blah blah blah. They still provide updates. The game is still moving foward. Go play your level and gear based, carebear pvp game. We all know when DF comes out ull be there playing. Oh and please tell me how it will be outdated? Name the game with features even close to Darkfall?
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Blah blah blah blah blah. They still provide updates. The game is still moving foward. Go play your level and gear based, carebear pvp game. We all know when DF comes out ull be there playing.
Oh and please tell me how it will be outdated? Name the game with features even close to Darkfall?
LOL I couldn't of said it better myself. Level and gear based games become outdated. A hardcore Skill based MMORPG live on forever. Just look at UO.
I'm not bashing AoC, but it is going to be a carebear PvP like it or not. They are going after the $ and not the longevity.
Isnt AoC going to relesed either?
I will play AoC until DF is relesed. And so will everybody else
It's funny that the only defence the blind faith DF fanboys can come up with when DF is put up against other obviously superior titles in development is to say , "go play your gear based newbie games".
I have some news for you. Darkfall IS NOT THE ONLY PVP GAME AROUND and will never begin to approach the quality of PvP that games like World of Warcraft ALREADY provide. plz wake up.
thnks you for your time.
Quality of PvP game? WoW? You got to be kidding me.
It's gear based, rock paper and scissors, no world PvP since their client and server can't handle it, all the action is instanced, it's just farming, the arena just becomes more tedious in the when you gain 1-4 rating each game but if you happen to loose you loose 25-30 rating and the arena points only stack up to 5k.
BG's? Just an honor farm, after farming BG's every weekend it becomes just plain boring, sometimes it can be fun to just do it for stats or run premades with your guild.
WoW PvP is just plain old farming, the arena is all about restraint to keep your rating high enough.
Most people who knows what the PvP in MMORPG is really about is yearning for DFO since most MMO's these days tend to go towards the match-making, non-dynamic, plain and simple instant action that multiplayer games offer since it appeals to the wider audience. Whilst most of us who remembers what the premise of PvP in MMORPG's is all about, a sandbox enviroment with open and dynamic pvp warfare.
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IMO, nothing more needs to be said. Plenty of people have already quit games like WoW, or even the MMO genre as a whole, because they are sick and tired of playing exactly what AoC is going to be: a gear-whoring raid-fest. Sure, there are supposedly player cities and PvP, but I have no doubt in my mind that these will be little more than mini-games for people to participate in between raids.
What I find funny is all the people who don't bother to read the feature list or the updates, and automatically assume that games like AoC are "obviously superior" to Darkfall.
my 2 cents
I love WOW
PVE anyway. Its pvp is indeed a joke. Most pvp in MMOs is rather skill less.
I do see where group MMO pvp, where you are working together to take a structure or strategic point, would be great fun. It would involve strategy timing and even should i say skill from a teamwork perspective.
But one on one pvp in a level and gear based environment is a joke. It has very little to do with skill. People bragging about pwning opponents in 1v1 or ganknig is really quite silly. You arent bad ass when you kill the undergeared noob.
If your opponent is equal in allways like in a FPS then you have a better foundation for claiming skill and pwnage.
Anyway I would like to see big group pvp action, skill or gear based in a game where your actions impact the game world. WOW pvp sucks for that agreed completely.
Asheron's Call, Champions Online, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, EverQuest, Lineage 2, Star Wars Galaxies and World of Warcraft.Waiting for SWTOR
Isnt AoC going to relesed either?
I will play AoC until DF is relesed. And so will everybody else
So, adding to you logic, since Darkfall will never be released, EVERYBODY will be playing AoC FOREVER.
It's so annoying when those people come and keep saying that it won't get released. I mean, why the hell do you care? If you weren't interested you really wouldn't give a damn. It's like saying that runescape won't get a major content patch (example only, I don't even play runescape), I mean why would anyone care?
Dude, you go play your game and I'll play mine, enough with all this "won't get released" bs. If it doesn't, then too bad for the people who waited, if it does, then sweet. No use saying that shit over and over again mindlessly for no reason at all. And seriously, if you're not utterly anxious about this game, like a hell lot of people around these forums are, then you really should go play one of those crappy actual mmo's around. This is the worst mmo generation so far, and yet you people still have to go say "go play AoC". It indeed has potential, but noone's certain that it's not gonna end being an item-based unbalanced pvp game. At least we're certain that Darkfall won't be item-based and that it'll have hardcore pvp, and IMHO it's pretty much enough for today's patterns.
Ultima Online 98~04
Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
Final Fantasy XI 04~06
Guild Wars 05~08
World of Warcraft 04~05
Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG