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Upcoming PVP based MMORPG?
Miklos
Member Posts: 119
Atm. the MMO scene only has one true PVP game and that's EVE Online (you can disagree with that all you want but it doesnt change the facts).
Anyone know of another PVP based game coming soon? Going through the coming list it seems they are all heavly PVE based or consensual PVP based.
Anyone know of another PVP based game coming soon? Going through the coming list it seems they are all heavly PVE based or consensual PVP based.
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I not want a pvp game where the only interest is kill other player. This sucks for me.
And yes territorial disputes are what make EVE the currently best MMO. True PVP where you loose stuff when dying and you can loose your home!
Lets see... there's Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Fallen Earth, and Darkfall (lol). I suspect TCoS and Huxley may have it too, although I haven't read much about those two. I think the game that has the most depth in territorial PvP would be Age of Conan, since you can actually build your own guild Keep and destroy someone else's. Although the PvP in Fallen Earth and Pirates of the Burning Sea actually influence what quests and other things you have access to, if you're more in to that.
There are several other PvP only games out there for those actually interested in looking further than the PR pushed titles.
CoH/CoV - D-Zol/Kinslayer
Auto Assault - Slayer
WoW, LOTRO, DDO - Kinsul
Matrix Online - Tempest
Age of Conan is supposed to be revolutionary in the way PvP is played, and it's due October 30th.
Better hope for Darkfall to come out, then you and the 100,000 other players who might enjoy the game can stay the heck off of the rest of them...
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If you want PvP, where you PvP for PvP's sake, where you can choose to ONLY PvP Throughout your WHOLE CHaracters life, where you gain XP, Gold, and Loot from Enemy Players, while losing almost nothing if you Die in PvP (apart from a bit of time), go WAR.
Yeah, this is biased, and the AoC Descritption is only my, utterly biased perception about this System.
I'd wait for WAR
Wrong.. EVE does not have PVP, you can say it does all you want but SAYING it does does not make it PVP just as claming that PKing and Ganging is PVP does not make it PVP.
It's really this simple:
Dukematch = PVP (any non-team deathmatch)
Quake, Halo=TVT (Quake, halo is red vrs blue = team vers team which is not player vers player)
CS, COD, DOD, WOW etc...= RVR (Realm vrs Realm)
EVE, SG= CVC/GVG (Corp/gang vrs corp/gang again not player vrs player)
If you want player vrs player fights you can not have more than one (1) persion on each side, period.
If you were to say that EVE has the best CVC (corp warfare) of any MMO then I could agree. But saying that EVE has PVP is like saying that Starbucks is a 5 star restraunt (do I really have to explain why it's not?) Just because EVE has fighting does not make it a PVP, Just because you can fight almost anywhere does not make it a PVP and just because the fighting does not have to be consensual does not make it a PVP. All it makes EVE is a CVC with the ability to gank/pk.
An so it begins
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But honestly, your description is plainly WRONG IMO.
First of all: RvR is a copyrighted Trademark from Mythic Entertainment. NO GAME, other than DAoC (and WAR soon) will have RvR.
But, RvR, TvT, are ALL Forms of PvP. Players vs. Players is also abbreviated PvP, thus, just because there is more than one Person per Team, doesn't suddenly prevent it from being PvP.
For example, WoW, again: You run around in a Zone, you are being attacked by one Guy. Perfectly fine 1v1 Battle. In EVE: You fly around somewhere, you get attacked by one other player. Perfectly fine 1v1 Battle.
Team vs. Team, Realm vs. Realm, Guild vs. Guild are simply more complex forms of PvP. But they are PvP nonetheless.
Wrong.. EVE does not have PVP, you can say it does all you want but SAYING it does does not make it PVP just as claming that PKing and Ganging is PVP does not make it PVP.
It's really this simple:
Dukematch = PVP (any non-team deathmatch)
Quake, Halo=TVT (Quake, halo is red vrs blue = team vers team which is not player vers player)
CS, COD, DOD, WOW etc...= RVR (Realm vrs Realm)
EVE, SG= CVC/GVG (Corp/gang vrs corp/gang again not player vrs player)
If you want player vrs player fights you can not have more than one (1) persion on each side, period.
If you were to say that EVE has the best CVC (corp warfare) of any MMO then I could agree. But saying that EVE has PVP is like saying that Starbucks is a 5 star restraunt (do I really have to explain why it's not?) Just because EVE has fighting does not make it a PVP, Just because you can fight almost anywhere does not make it a PVP and just because the fighting does not have to be consensual does not make it a PVP. All it makes EVE is a CVC with the ability to gank/pk.
Lmao what a stupid definition. Its so wrong i cant be bothered dignifying it with a reason why, id be here all day lol.
the only 100% pure pvp i know is about to come out, is Fury - unleashthefury
another game somewhat simular to fury (gamestyle) is GuildWars, it also have pve, but u dont have to play it at all u can still play pvp just as good as everyone els and with same items stats, and skills.
Warhammer Online should be the ultimate PvP thing. I might be wrong though, but the game is all about beating the crap out of your enemy teams... PvE even seems to be there only to improve your character so you can do better at PvP... go check that out
But honestly, your description is plainly WRONG IMO.
First of all: RvR is a copyrighted Trademark from Mythic Entertainment. NO GAME, other than DAoC (and WAR soon) will have RvR.
But, RvR, TvT, are ALL Forms of PvP. Players vs. Players is also abbreviated PvP, thus, just because there is more than one Person per Team, doesn't suddenly prevent it from being PvP.
For example, WoW, again: You run around in a Zone, you are being attacked by one Guy. Perfectly fine 1v1 Battle. In EVE: You fly around somewhere, you get attacked by one other player. Perfectly fine 1v1 Battle.
Team vs. Team, Realm vs. Realm, Guild vs. Guild are simply more complex forms of PvP. But they are PvP nonetheless.
An so it begins
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Here is why I do not consider fx. WoW, Planetside or upcoming WAR a "true" PVP game.
In EVE, because the entire premise for the game is player controlled territory, everything you do affects other players some how down the line. Be it you are a miner and you mine your heart out - eventually the minerals you have mined will be sold and turned into ships and/or ammo then later used in either gaining more minerals/items or for wars/combat.
I'd like to stress the fact that I do not consider combat/shooting the only form for PVP, as the market in EVE is just as brutal as the wars over territory. The thing I find to be "true PVP" is when the game doesnt limit your actions in or reactions - be that combat, market/crafting etc. - the important factor here is that you loose your items on you when you die thus fueling the need for new items either through PVE combat or crafting (building in EVE).
If there is no real loss when you die (be it to PVE or in PVP) the game will never be 'a true PVP game' (in my eyes).
As a sidenote to the people complaining that you were preyed upon in EVE while when you started out - look at it from the other side, no other game allows you to be so truly valuable in combat from the start as EVE does. There's no level/XP requirement and you do the same amount of damage to a 4 year old player as you do to a 1 day old player. But that's an entirely different discussion.
i didnt like eve because it took me hours to even find a person willing to fight me, who i could actually damage in my little ship, and when i did they brought 10 of their corpmates in.
looking forward to WAR because its about enjoying the fight and having fun. and capturing territory etc. full player looting in any game where you expect to be able to find pvp easily is just plain daft.
if you insist on limiting your description of pvp to games where you can A. cap territory and B. loot other players and C. lose stuff when you die, then the only game i can think of is EvE.
PvP means player vs. player. If an MMO features the ability to pit yourself against another player in a virtual-physical fight, it is a PvP MMO.
Games like WoW ARE PvP, and I can tell you this because I played WoW on a PvP server and I pretty much only lived for PvPing. I only grouped to get gear to be competitive in PvPing, I travelled the world participating in and thwarting raids, I gained ranks for doing so, and I participated in Battlegrounds and numerous duels.
You are WRONG!
Try Battleground Europe WWII Online http://www.wwiionline.com/
This game is a WWII MMO combat simulation that has been around for 5 years. Its ALL PvP, one shot one kill (real world ballistics).
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