Ddue, I played it again last month for the month. I played on Bria and Bloodfin. There are no players... I know when there are people playing a game. Regardless of what you say, which is obviously biased, I came back to give the NGE a fair shot, to find something to do, and to my shock it seemed there were actually LESS players now than in December 05. I'm sure some people re-subbed for Chapter 6, and BM, but that won't last. Quit false-advertising to get people to waste their time playing. There are almost no populations on the servers.
Ok man whatever you say. Like I said before I am not trying to convince you of anything. I have alot of better things to do with my time.
My view is by far not biased. Actually I would say that your hatred of things from the past make your views far far more biased than anything I have said.
In no way shape or form did you give any kind of fair shot. I think your post history proves that.
False advertising. LOL your accusing me of false advertising
LESS players now than in December 05.
There are no players...
Yea your right......
Have a good day sir I am through with this conversation
I am really sick of these threads. NGE Playbase < Pre-CU playerbase.
SOE CEO: NGE was a mistake.
NGE Playerbase MMORPG Posters: Game is growing. Game has lots of people. Game is steadily improving.
Pre-CU Playerbase: Screenshot and videos.
NGE Playbase: Excuse, Excuse, Excuse.
Pre-CU Playerbase: Screenshot and videos
NGE Playerbase: Excuse, Excuse, Excuse
Pre-CU Playerbase: Bangs head into wall.
Moral of story. Don't bang your head against a wall.
There is no convincing these folks of facts on swg. They will give you excuse after endless excuse on what your doing wrong or say they can show you otherwise about the games health. You can say the population of most servers is extremely low or else they wouldn't be talking about consolidation and they will spout off some excuse about it only be x server or y server.
Anyone who wants to bury there head in the sand about swg is welcome to do so. I know the game was better before the NGE and I know it was better then the other MMO's on the market in many areas. What is left of the playerbase is most likely the crowd that will never leave swg ever. I see these folks playing swg even after a new star wars mmo come out. It just the way it is.
I'd just appreciate it if mmorpg.com would moderate these folks out of this topic. I mean seriously it isn't to hard to identify these wishful thinking folks. I see them post in every thread on ever swg is dying thread. Maybe you can just not allow them to post in this topic, thread, board or whatever you call our little pre-cu area.
I am really sick of these threads. NGE Playbase < Pre-CU playerbase. SOE CEO: NGE implementation was a mistake. NGE Playerbase MMORPG Posters: Game is growing. Game has lots of people. Game is steadily improving. Pre-CU Playerbase: Screenshot and videos. NGE Playbase: Post screenshot after screenshot. Pre-CU Playerbase: What ever population still not as large as pre-cu NGE Playerbase: No one said it was. We did say it is growing though Pre-CU Playerbase: Denial let's make up some more lies. Moral of story. Some people can't face the truth. There is no convincing these folks of facts on swg. They will give you excuse after endless excuse on what your doing wrong or say they can show you otherwise about the games health. You can say the population of most servers is on the rise and they will spout off some excuse about there being 10 players and this used to be so full. I'd just appreciate it if mmorpg.com would moderate these folks out of this topic. I mean seriously it isn't to hard to identify these living in the past can't face reality folks. I see them post in every thread on ever swg is rebounding population is rising. Maybe you can just not allow them to post in this topic, thread, board or whatever you call our current forum.
ok if your not going to defend yourself and be a smartass then stop posting in this thread, as a matter of fact, go find the nearest forrest fire and JUMP IN. /feedingtrolloff
on a more serious note, all you are is flamebait. We all know SOE changed the population indicators to a smaller population. I mean if it was actually heavy, then i should log on, and AH should be streaming with people, hell every city in galaxies should have people in it. Please leave this forum, i have yet to see 1 productive post from you.
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the truth lies somewhere in between i think of fanboys and trolls.
For instance i think anyone saying the servers are heavily populated is talking junk but to those showing screenies of empty cities i think are too talking junk.
The real truth is probably a average populated game i suppose but certainly not as it was in the heyday,which i might add was way before even CU came in.
the truth lies somewhere in between i think of fanboys and trolls. For instance i think anyone saying the servers are heavily populated is talking junk but to those showing screenies of empty cities i think are too talking junk. The real truth is probably a average populated game i suppose but certainly not as it was in the heyday,which i might add was way before even CU came in.
who invited the voice of reason to this party?
joking aside, excellent point. Both sides show screen shots as proof of their points and both sides seem heavily invested in being "right" about their view point. That said, nothing is ever black and white (except of course black and white) and no game publisher (even SOE) would stand around and lose money for a long period of time. So that in mind, there is at least enough of a population to sustain 20 devs and run the servers with some level of profit. Obviously some servers are less populated then others and thus players loading up their old toons might see "ghost towns" if they are on one of the "very light" servers.
In the end, current players have conceded that the population does not rival pre-CU so that is a non-issue. It seems that these conversations really get hung up on that point and no progress can ever be made if each side is discussing a different topic.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers. Do something wrong, no one forgets" -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
the truth lies somewhere in between i think of fanboys and trolls. For instance i think anyone saying the servers are heavily populated is talking junk but to those showing screenies of empty cities i think are too talking junk. The real truth is probably a average populated game i suppose but certainly not as it was in the heyday,which i might add was way before even CU came in.
Hey, good answer. Any pictures can be manipulated to show an answer either way...
...the only real way of answering the question is proof, on getting real connection numbers, everything else is pure speculation and should simply be treated as such.
You know sometimes i wonder if Obraik is smeds or George Lucases kid lol. I have never seen someone love and cherish and polish turd like he has lol. I honestly think if they added ogres and gnomes as a new races hed be even happier.
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That's true frankly I find reading veteran posts more easy on the eyes though, don't want my eyes bleeding when I see how great the NGE is all the time. Sadly though SOE are very private about their sales and the amount of numbers in their subscriptions so there's no way we'll get to see who's right and who's wrong, nice way to spread the discord -_-
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
the truth lies somewhere in between i think of fanboys and trolls. For instance i think anyone saying the servers are heavily populated is talking junk but to those showing screenies of empty cities i think are too talking junk. The real truth is probably a average populated game i suppose but certainly not as it was in the heyday,which i might add was way before even CU came in.
An average populated game??? Compared to what other 'average populated' game?
If this game didn't have the Star Wars name with a license that $OE doesn't want to lose use of, the plug would have been pulled months ago.
I read all the fanboi posts and really thought that maybe things had changed so I re-subbed for a month.
My old server Tarq is dead. I found one person in Theed during the hour I was there and it was a saturday evening. I played on Tarq for a week but the only place I found a few people at was Tat and they were all low level so I could not really quest with them. (BTW I hate the level system, now I have to find people near my level or my playtime is worthless). I checked the Bazaar for the whole galaxy and there were only 60 weapons listed and 20 were CDEF's. If you see a server with LIGHT population stay away, I would guess that LIGHT = less than 50 people.
I rolled a new char on Bloodfin. A few more people around but I would guess that HEAVY = less than 300. I saw about 15 to 20 people in Mos Eisley but most are level 90 Jedi so I couldnt hang with them. I went to Anchorhead and there was no one there, went to Bestine and saw about 10. This was a Sunday evening which I believe is peak playtime.
I rolled a crafter, problem is there is no one to buy your stuff. I played for two weeks and got to level 40 as a crafter but hardly sold a thing. For my last week I rolled a Jedi so I could be like everyone else. It was fun to do the scripted missions but after that I quit playing. I'll wait for Tabula Rasa.
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Ok man whatever you say. Like I said before I am not trying to convince you of anything. I have alot of better things to do with my time.
My view is by far not biased. Actually I would say that your hatred of things from the past make your views far far more biased than anything I have said.
In no way shape or form did you give any kind of fair shot. I think your post history proves that.
False advertising. LOL your accusing me of false advertising
LESS players now than in December 05.
There are no players...
Yea your right......
Have a good day sir I am through with this conversation
"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the na
I am really sick of these threads. NGE Playbase < Pre-CU playerbase.
SOE CEO: NGE was a mistake.
NGE Playerbase MMORPG Posters: Game is growing. Game has lots of people. Game is steadily improving.
Pre-CU Playerbase: Screenshot and videos.
NGE Playbase: Excuse, Excuse, Excuse.
Pre-CU Playerbase: Screenshot and videos
NGE Playerbase: Excuse, Excuse, Excuse
Pre-CU Playerbase: Bangs head into wall.
Moral of story. Don't bang your head against a wall.
There is no convincing these folks of facts on swg. They will give you excuse after endless excuse on what your doing wrong or say they can show you otherwise about the games health. You can say the population of most servers is extremely low or else they wouldn't be talking about consolidation and they will spout off some excuse about it only be x server or y server.
Anyone who wants to bury there head in the sand about swg is welcome to do so. I know the game was better before the NGE and I know it was better then the other MMO's on the market in many areas. What is left of the playerbase is most likely the crowd that will never leave swg ever. I see these folks playing swg even after a new star wars mmo come out. It just the way it is.
I'd just appreciate it if mmorpg.com would moderate these folks out of this topic. I mean seriously it isn't to hard to identify these wishful thinking folks. I see them post in every thread on ever swg is dying thread. Maybe you can just not allow them to post in this topic, thread, board or whatever you call our little pre-cu area.
"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the na
ok if your not going to defend yourself and be a smartass then stop posting in this thread, as a matter of fact, go find the nearest forrest fire and JUMP IN. /feedingtrolloff
on a more serious note, all you are is flamebait. We all know SOE changed the population indicators to a smaller population. I mean if it was actually heavy, then i should log on, and AH should be streaming with people, hell every city in galaxies should have people in it. Please leave this forum, i have yet to see 1 productive post from you.
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Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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the truth lies somewhere in between i think of fanboys and trolls.
For instance i think anyone saying the servers are heavily populated is talking junk but to those showing screenies of empty cities i think are too talking junk.
The real truth is probably a average populated game i suppose but certainly not as it was in the heyday,which i might add was way before even CU came in.
who invited the voice of reason to this party?
joking aside, excellent point. Both sides show screen shots as proof of their points and both sides seem heavily invested in being "right" about their view point. That said, nothing is ever black and white (except of course black and white) and no game publisher (even SOE) would stand around and lose money for a long period of time. So that in mind, there is at least enough of a population to sustain 20 devs and run the servers with some level of profit. Obviously some servers are less populated then others and thus players loading up their old toons might see "ghost towns" if they are on one of the "very light" servers.
In the end, current players have conceded that the population does not rival pre-CU so that is a non-issue. It seems that these conversations really get hung up on that point and no progress can ever be made if each side is discussing a different topic.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
Hey, good answer. Any pictures can be manipulated to show an answer either way...
...the only real way of answering the question is proof, on getting real connection numbers, everything else is pure speculation and should simply be treated as such.
*Games on our site will be treated just as we treat people. Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons.
Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable.
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Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
An average populated game???
Compared to what other 'average populated' game?
If this game didn't have the Star Wars name with a license that $OE doesn't want to lose use of, the plug would have been pulled months ago.
I read all the fanboi posts and really thought that maybe things had changed so I re-subbed for a month.
My old server Tarq is dead. I found one person in Theed during the hour I was there and it was a saturday evening. I played on Tarq for a week but the only place I found a few people at was Tat and they were all low level so I could not really quest with them. (BTW I hate the level system, now I have to find people near my level or my playtime is worthless). I checked the Bazaar for the whole galaxy and there were only 60 weapons listed and 20 were CDEF's. If you see a server with LIGHT population stay away, I would guess that LIGHT = less than 50 people.
I rolled a new char on Bloodfin. A few more people around but I would guess that HEAVY = less than 300. I saw about 15 to 20 people in Mos Eisley but most are level 90 Jedi so I couldnt hang with them. I went to Anchorhead and there was no one there, went to Bestine and saw about 10. This was a Sunday evening which I believe is peak playtime.
I rolled a crafter, problem is there is no one to buy your stuff. I played for two weeks and got to level 40 as a crafter but hardly sold a thing. For my last week I rolled a Jedi so I could be like everyone else. It was fun to do the scripted missions but after that I quit playing. I'll wait for Tabula Rasa.