I just want to take this opportunity to thank Rick Saada for all the information that he has posted on this site as well as the official forums. There are far to few Dev's that will do that. So thanks again and a deep noble bow of appreciation for your time and effort Rick.
You're welcome! I just have to keep my head down so Rusty doesn't notice I've been prowling the forums again "Rick! Don't you have code to write?" Of course I get to reply "Rusty, don't we have a publisher yet?" so it's all good...
I've have read where FLS is talking with a few companies to distribute the game, I can only speak for myself but if SOE is connected in anyway with this game I'll not play it. I've played a couple games that SOE had control over like SWG and I am not impressed in any way with their customer service or the lack there of and how they tear a good game down to bare bones and then get shocked when nobody will pay to play it.. So I guess what I'm asking is PLEASE do not get involved with SOE on this game, it looks like a very fresh approach to new type of MMO and all SOE will do is mess up another good game.. and has it been said yet if there will be a monthly fee to play and if so will it be on the same level as other MMO's?
If ive heard wrong then so be it, Vista is out, Direct X-10 is around the Conner several games do out this year have delayed coming out till sometime next year if then because of something. This Game has been on the drawing board now going on 5yrs maybe 6. Several other mmo's on the drawing boards coming. I just watched a 6yr 30 mil project not do very well on a recent launch and get sold to SONY. These Guys gotta have some reason for not Launching now.
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I've have read where FLS is talking with a few companies to distribute the game, I can only speak for myself but if SOE is connected in anyway with this game I'll not play it. I've played a couple games that SOE had control over like SWG and I am not impressed in any way with their customer service or the lack there of and how they tear a good game down to bare bones and then get shocked when nobody will pay to play it.. So I guess what I'm asking is PLEASE do not get involved with SOE on this game, it looks like a very fresh approach to new type of MMO and all SOE will do is mess up another good game.. and has it been said yet if there will be a monthly fee to play and if so will it be on the same level as other MMO's?
Why so many of you have no common sense or sterotype everything.... SOE is awesome at DISTRIBUTION!! Who said anything about the game being owned or operated by SOE?? If they got ahold of distribution you would see a good cost reduction overall of the games release. SOE has no other matter in anything of the games content or development when they are just the Distributor of said product.
I can't tell you how stupid it is to say you wouldn't play so and so game because it's got SOE name in their somehow, even when the game is probably the best game out and not developed or controlled by SOE, so why say that you wouldn't play the game based on SOE name if they handled any sort of distribution??
I hate to say it but it "sounds" like alot of the cry-baby "new age" players are going to be playing this game. I have never heard so much crying and whining about a game release in my life... Sweet Jesus STFU man. It will release when it releases and I will be there to buy and sign up...
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I've have read where FLS is talking with a few companies to distribute the game, I can only speak for myself but if SOE is connected in anyway with this game I'll not play it. I've played a couple games that SOE had control over like SWG and I am not impressed in any way with their customer service or the lack there of and how they tear a good game down to bare bones and then get shocked when nobody will pay to play it.. So I guess what I'm asking is PLEASE do not get involved with SOE on this game, it looks like a very fresh approach to new type of MMO and all SOE will do is mess up another good game.. and has it been said yet if there will be a monthly fee to play and if so will it be on the same level as other MMO's?
Why so many of you have no common sense or sterotype everything.... SOE is awesome at DISTRIBUTION!! Who said anything about the game being owned or operated by SOE?? If they got ahold of distribution you would see a good cost reduction overall of the games release. SOE has no other matter in anything of the games content or development when they are just the Distributor of said product.
I can't tell you how stupid it is to say you wouldn't play so and so game because it's got SOE name in their somehow, even when the game is probably the best game out and not developed or controlled by SOE, so why say that you wouldn't play the game based on SOE name if they handled any sort of distribution??
I hate these kinds of statements!!!
I have played quite a few games that SOE have had their hands on and they don't just distribute the game, they also provide support and thats where the problem is. It's not a sterotype, it's first hand experiance and I'll stick to my guns along with several of my friends. We won't buy the game if SOE has anything to do with it, its really that simple.
You are more then welcome have your own opnion as am I, I have had nothing but a bad experiance with SOE and I refuse to play or support them in any way. So you can feel free to call me stupid I am but before you do look at some of the games SOE has trashed in the past.. SWG comes to mind as well as a few others, they take away half of the game then add it later as a great new feature.. thats their idea of adding new content to a game.. LAME ! But mark my words if SOE has anything to do with this game it's days will be numbered before it even has a chance to get going
I don't keep up with who makes/distributes/controls any games... I play what I like
SOE is Sony Online Entertainment and they have total control over any game they distibute, they currently have Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, Everquest I & II, Everquest Online Adventures and The Matrix that I can think of off the top of my head.. and before you take my word on how they treat the paying customer do a little research and see for your self. I'm by far not the only person that feels this way about SOE, I can sya this from first hand experiance when you have a problem and have to contact thier support if they can't just give you a scripted answer telling to you either check the knowledge base or the forums they will give you an answer that has nothing at all to do with your problem and when you try to explain to them that their answer is not even close to what you need help with they will then threaten you and tell you that your harrassing the support team and abusing the help ticket system, then they tell you if you continue to submit a ticket for help your account will be banned... Now thats what they told me on 2 different issues I had with Star Wars and thats why I'll never play another game they are involved with.. I'm not being a cry baby but I won't pay them my hard earned money to be treated like that either.
I have played quite a few games that SOE have had their hands on and they don't just distribute the game, they also provide support and thats where the problem is. It's not a sterotype, it's first hand experiance and I'll stick to my guns along with several of my friends. We won't buy the game if SOE has anything to do with it, its really that simple.
You are more then welcome have your own opnion as am I, I have had nothing but a bad experiance with SOE and I refuse to play or support them in any way. So you can feel free to call me stupid I am but before you do look at some of the games SOE has trashed in the past.. SWG comes to mind as well as a few others, they take away half of the game then add it later as a great new feature.. thats their idea of adding new content to a game.. LAME ! But mark my words if SOE has anything to do with this game it's days will be numbered before it even has a chance to get going
From what FLS has been saying, no one in the industry has done what they are proposing to do. They are effectively taking control of everything. The only thing the distributor will do is distribute. Its taken the FLS team over a year to flesh out this contract because there is no precedence. No other company has this much control over their own game!
Makes me feel kinda warm inside. And on top of that... they talk to the players!!! You can't ask for a better environment regardless if SOE distributes or not.
Anyone else heard that this may be delayed till 2008 to upgrade it to DX-10 and Vista ready machines. In order to compete with AOC amd Warhammer coming out then.
I highly doubt it. Vista is not a proven platform. As a matter of fact, there are few games that will even work with Vista. It is NOT a gamers friend yet until they fix all the problems and drivers become more readily available. Personally, I'm not using Vista until they force me out of XP. By that time, Vista will be fixed and it will be the standard platform for everything.
Brad McQuaid ex ceo of Sigil and now a consultant to Sony Online Entertainment might differ with above poster
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Brad McQuaid ex ceo of Sigil and now a consultant to Sony Online Entertainment might differ with above poster
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
I don't keep up with who makes/distributes/controls any games... I play what I like
SOE is Sony Online Entertainment and they have total control over any game they distibute, they currently have Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, Everquest I & II, Everquest Online Adventures and The Matrix that I can think of off the top of my head.. and before you take my word on how they treat the paying customer do a little research and see for your self. I'm by far not the only person that feels this way about SOE, I can sya this from first hand experiance when you have a problem and have to contact thier support if they can't just give you a scripted answer telling to you either check the knowledge base or the forums they will give you an answer that has nothing at all to do with your problem and when you try to explain to them that their answer is not even close to what you need help with they will then threaten you and tell you that your harrassing the support team and abusing the help ticket system, then they tell you if you continue to submit a ticket for help your account will be banned... Now thats what they told me on 2 different issues I had with Star Wars and thats why I'll never play another game they are involved with.. I'm not being a cry baby but I won't pay them my hard earned money to be treated like that either.
Most of this post is pure bullshit. Star Wars Galaxies is co-designed by Luca Arts. Many people believe it was LA that rushed out the NGE. Vanguard... they now own, prior to this all they did was distribute. EQ 1 & 2 are their own games. Matrix they bought, again prior to buying the IP they had no involvement at all.
There support could be better but again depends who you talk to. You could be very unlucky and get a copy + paste response all the time. I highly doubt they told you that you were "harrassing the support team" and that "your account will be banned". You just jumping on the SOE hate wagon.
I don't keep up with who makes/distributes/controls any games... I play what I like
I tend to WANT to agree, but I have a preference to devs and GM's who do not get involved in game play. Somethings need to work themselves out when there are problems between players. I prefer Funcom & Turbine's approach to being completely hands off in matters concerning all but the most extreme harrassment cases and have never heard or or known of anyone to get suspended or banned.
UO and (from what I hear), EQ has a bad habit of meddling in social issues. I know for a fact that UO had horrible customer service and would suspend players over little crap.
I want to play a game because I like it, but customer service is important to me. As far as I am concerned, Turbine and Funcom are the best in that area.
Brad McQuaid ex ceo of Sigil and now a consultant to Sony Online Entertainment might differ with above poster
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
I just wanted to begin with another thanks to the dev. team over at FLS. I have been following this game for a long time now... (has it really been 5 years!?) and I can't be more excited that we have come to the point where the release date is being pushed back!! This means that we are SOOO CLOSE! If anyone has followed the forums and dev. logs on the Burningsea site they know the reasons WHY there is a pushing back. Also.. let me remind future posters that RIck stated the game was, I believe, nearly 100% playable!! So let the bugs be squashed quickly and get lots of (pardon the bigotry) moms with irons.. (the joke is better in my mind I'm guessin)
This essentially means that there are underlying causes as to why the game is being pushed back and, again, I couldn't be happier that the game has come this far.
My biggest dissapointment... the fact that such a long-time fan didn't receive his well-deserved beta key *cough* but I do understand that it's a tight knit closed beta atm and is expanding THIS MONTH! Though, in the defense of FLS for the first, eh, 2 years or so of available PoTBS information i was just a spectator.. But the last year or so I've been trying to get more involved!
Rick, thanks again and CAN'T wait to see you out in beta so i can make fun of all of your coding errors!
-Expecting my 'less-closed beta key' later this month
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
I think the big difference we see that proves FLS will roll out a game better than sigil has is the improvements made to PotBS. When PotBS was first announced, it was going to be an indie naval simulator made by a small development group. Since then, FLS has pulled funding from its other game and expanded its team hugely, they have continually decided that they are going to make the game better and bigger. It has gone from a naval simulator to a full out mmo with avatars, avatar combat, player submitted flags sails and ships, a complex economy, crafting, and adventure zones... All of these things were not planned from the start, but have been added slowly as FLS secured more funding to expand the game. If FLS was running out of funds or was feeling pressure to release sooner, they wouldnt have expanded their horizon with all these new features, they would have just released back when they had what the originally planned done.
Sigil on the other hand, promised a huge mmo, and as time passed they started pulling features from the game because they were running out of time and funds... The complete opposite of what is happening to FLS.
I'd also like to say that I played VG and it wasnt even bad, I dunno why its getting such a bad rep, I think its just because of all the hype it had before release. I especially liked the idea of fellowships, although it was pushed back behind release.
Anyways, we cannot always be 100% certain that a game will do well, but what I have already posted here and also the amazing communication we see by all the FLS staff shows that PotBS has some good chances.
Oh I wasnt trying to be mean to you bounty, I agree with what you were saying, I was just expounding on it.
Brad McQuaid ex ceo of Sigil and now a consultant to Sony Online Entertainment might differ with above poster
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
Might want to ease up a bit.
Yeah, the thing is, you didn't mention that Sigil actually went belly up, that's WHY SOE took over Vanguard. Brad basically sold Vanguard to SOE and then fired everyone from Sigil then SOE picked up some of the developers. It's not like SOE is some bully and came along and gave Brad a wedgie and a squirly and stole it from him.
Leaving it ambiguous like that kind of gave reason for all the SOE haters to don their tin foil hats.
I hate it whenpeople take the beta version as a preview. I wish I could beta test PotBS. Right now im beta testing Sword of the New World, and all I do is look for bugs and report them. It get kinda boring, but nice to see the game before other people. Im always trying to do dumb this to make the game crash. XD
And I was wondering, is there a target launch date?
Brad McQuaid ex ceo of Sigil and now a consultant to Sony Online Entertainment might differ with above poster
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
Might want to ease up a bit.
Yeah, the thing is, you didn't mention that Sigil actually went belly up, that's WHY SOE took over Vanguard. Brad basically sold Vanguard to SOE and then fired everyone from Sigil then SOE picked up some of the developers. It's not like SOE is some bully and came along and gave Brad a wedgie and a squirly and stole it from him.
Leaving it ambiguous like that kind of gave reason for all the SOE haters to don their tin foil hats.
Okay, not to derail this topic, but, can you show me, via PM, when/where/how Sigil went "belly up". Perhaps a quarterly profits statement, or a bankruptcy announcement, or even a post where Brad McQuaid said they had to shut it down if they didn't sign.
Maybe I missed one of those....as I recall, Brad was still talking about the game doing well when "negotiations" started between him and SOE.
Unless you can PM me that, I'd say you're untruthfully spouting a party line.
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"Rick! Don't you have code to write?" Of course I get to reply "Rusty, don't we have a publisher yet?" so it's all good...
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And for the Devs your doing a great job.. is good to see u on mmorpg.com
Why so many of you have no common sense or sterotype everything.... SOE is awesome at DISTRIBUTION!! Who said anything about the game being owned or operated by SOE?? If they got ahold of distribution you would see a good cost reduction overall of the games release. SOE has no other matter in anything of the games content or development when they are just the Distributor of said product.
I can't tell you how stupid it is to say you wouldn't play so and so game because it's got SOE name in their somehow, even when the game is probably the best game out and not developed or controlled by SOE, so why say that you wouldn't play the game based on SOE name if they handled any sort of distribution??
I hate these kinds of statements!!!
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
Why so many of you have no common sense or sterotype everything.... SOE is awesome at DISTRIBUTION!! Who said anything about the game being owned or operated by SOE?? If they got ahold of distribution you would see a good cost reduction overall of the games release. SOE has no other matter in anything of the games content or development when they are just the Distributor of said product.
I can't tell you how stupid it is to say you wouldn't play so and so game because it's got SOE name in their somehow, even when the game is probably the best game out and not developed or controlled by SOE, so why say that you wouldn't play the game based on SOE name if they handled any sort of distribution??
I hate these kinds of statements!!!
I have played quite a few games that SOE have had their hands on and they don't just distribute the game, they also provide support and thats where the problem is. It's not a sterotype, it's first hand experiance and I'll stick to my guns along with several of my friends. We won't buy the game if SOE has anything to do with it, its really that simple.
You are more then welcome have your own opnion as am I, I have had nothing but a bad experiance with SOE and I refuse to play or support them in any way. So you can feel free to call me stupid I am but before you do look at some of the games SOE has trashed in the past.. SWG comes to mind as well as a few others, they take away half of the game then add it later as a great new feature.. thats their idea of adding new content to a game.. LAME ! But mark my words if SOE has anything to do with this game it's days will be numbered before it even has a chance to get going
I don't keep up with who makes/distributes/controls any games... I play what I like
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
I have played quite a few games that SOE have had their hands on and they don't just distribute the game, they also provide support and thats where the problem is. It's not a sterotype, it's first hand experiance and I'll stick to my guns along with several of my friends. We won't buy the game if SOE has anything to do with it, its really that simple.
You are more then welcome have your own opnion as am I, I have had nothing but a bad experiance with SOE and I refuse to play or support them in any way. So you can feel free to call me stupid I am but before you do look at some of the games SOE has trashed in the past.. SWG comes to mind as well as a few others, they take away half of the game then add it later as a great new feature.. thats their idea of adding new content to a game.. LAME ! But mark my words if SOE has anything to do with this game it's days will be numbered before it even has a chance to get going
From what FLS has been saying, no one in the industry has done what they are proposing to do. They are effectively taking control of everything. The only thing the distributor will do is distribute. Its taken the FLS team over a year to flesh out this contract because there is no precedence. No other company has this much control over their own game!
Makes me feel kinda warm inside. And on top of that... they talk to the players!!!
MAGA
i know them... they suck ass... i remember playing EQ(The worst game ever) and trying to get help from them...
hahahha
sad
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Most of this post is pure bullshit. Star Wars Galaxies is co-designed by Luca Arts. Many people believe it was LA that rushed out the NGE. Vanguard... they now own, prior to this all they did was distribute. EQ 1 & 2 are their own games. Matrix they bought, again prior to buying the IP they had no involvement at all.
There support could be better but again depends who you talk to. You could be very unlucky and get a copy + paste response all the time. I highly doubt they told you that you were "harrassing the support team" and that "your account will be banned". You just jumping on the SOE hate wagon.
UO and (from what I hear), EQ has a bad habit of meddling in social issues. I know for a fact that UO had horrible customer service and would suspend players over little crap.
I want to play a game because I like it, but customer service is important to me. As far as I am concerned, Turbine and Funcom are the best in that area.
Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
Might want to ease up a bit.
I just wanted to begin with another thanks to the dev. team over at FLS. I have been following this game for a long time now... (has it really been 5 years!?) and I can't be more excited that we have come to the point where the release date is being pushed back!! This means that we are SOOO CLOSE! If anyone has followed the forums and dev. logs on the Burningsea site they know the reasons WHY there is a pushing back. Also.. let me remind future posters that RIck stated the game was, I believe, nearly 100% playable!! So let the bugs be squashed quickly and get lots of (pardon the bigotry) moms with irons.. (the joke is better in my mind I'm guessin)
This essentially means that there are underlying causes as to why the game is being pushed back and, again, I couldn't be happier that the game has come this far.
My biggest dissapointment... the fact that such a long-time fan didn't receive his well-deserved beta key *cough*
but I do understand that it's a tight knit closed beta atm and is expanding THIS MONTH! Though, in the defense of FLS for the first, eh, 2 years or so of available PoTBS information i was just a spectator.. But the last year or so I've been trying to get more involved!
Rick, thanks again and CAN'T wait to see you out in beta so i can make fun of all of your coding errors!
-Expecting my 'less-closed beta key' later this month
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Sigil on the other hand, promised a huge mmo, and as time passed they started pulling features from the game because they were running out of time and funds... The complete opposite of what is happening to FLS.
Anyways, we cannot always be 100% certain that a game will do well, but what I have already posted here and also the amazing communication we see by all the FLS staff shows that PotBS has some good chances.
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Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
Might want to ease up a bit.
Yeah, the thing is, you didn't mention that Sigil actually went belly up, that's WHY SOE took over Vanguard. Brad basically sold Vanguard to SOE and then fired everyone from Sigil then SOE picked up some of the developers. It's not like SOE is some bully and came along and gave Brad a wedgie and a squirly and stole it from him.
Leaving it ambiguous like that kind of gave reason for all the SOE haters to don their tin foil hats.
I hate it whenpeople take the beta version as a preview. I wish I could beta test PotBS. Right now im beta testing Sword of the New World, and all I do is look for bugs and report them. It get kinda boring, but nice to see the game before other people. Im always trying to do dumb this to make the game crash. XD
And I was wondering, is there a target launch date?
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Thats a very vague response.
Care to explain in what way he differs? And the relation to my post? Maybe you can even give evidence in support of your claim. I know I can for mine.
I think he was trying to say that Sigil said a similar thing about SOE that you said about FLS's distribution plan....mainly, that SOE would only publish and have no control over the game what-so-ever.
Yet, 6 months later, SOE was in charge, and Sigil was effectively no more.
I'm not saying the same will happen to FLS....I believe them when they say they'll keep control....but I too recognize that you can't always keep your promises.
Hardly SOEs fault that the game was a flop. They didn't write the code, design the game mechanics. It wasn't like they had a choice lol.
Did I assign fault to anyone at any time? Jumping the gun a bit, don't you think?
I was simply explaining why that other poster compared the potential publishing plan for PotBS witht he publishing plan of V:SoH. The other poster was trying to say they could be the same (ie, promise the publisher won't be involved, but later on, they actually are)
Might want to ease up a bit.
Yeah, the thing is, you didn't mention that Sigil actually went belly up, that's WHY SOE took over Vanguard. Brad basically sold Vanguard to SOE and then fired everyone from Sigil then SOE picked up some of the developers. It's not like SOE is some bully and came along and gave Brad a wedgie and a squirly and stole it from him.
Leaving it ambiguous like that kind of gave reason for all the SOE haters to don their tin foil hats.
Okay, not to derail this topic, but, can you show me, via PM, when/where/how Sigil went "belly up". Perhaps a quarterly profits statement, or a bankruptcy announcement, or even a post where Brad McQuaid said they had to shut it down if they didn't sign.
Maybe I missed one of those....as I recall, Brad was still talking about the game doing well when "negotiations" started between him and SOE.
Unless you can PM me that, I'd say you're untruthfully spouting a party line.