Blizzard sues both IGE and Peons4Hire

Liddokun

Not content to simply sue Peons4Hire.. Blizzard has filed an independent lawsuit in Florida against RMT giant IGE (Internet Gaming Entertainment) co-founded by former child star Brock Pierce. Read all about it here. The clash of the giants starts today.. will the developers/copyright holders of World of Warcraft win or will RMT giants like IGE get away with their illegal ToS/EULA  breaking activities and barely be scrape by the long arms of the law?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14169

 

URMAKER

there are so many game developers who are battling this problem i don't understand why they don't band together to fight the problem instead its just blizzard by themselves.

Gotrede

I bet Blizzard would want all the glory to themselves.. "Blizzard's a great company! Look at them actually fighting the gold farmers instead of all the other lame companies!" BAH!

Liddokun

*cheers Blizzard on* hurrah hurrah! Hang them evil RMT'ers!

Kyleran

Ack... i need to read these articles more carefully (stupid work keeps getting in the way)...



OK, my retraction is retracted..... interesting that an independent (I smell a lawyer behind this looking for a class action payout) person filed this lawsuit.... should be interesting to see how it plays out.



The difficulty is in trying to obtain records to prove the case........   Blizzard isn't obligated to surrender them and IGE is probably already having a bonfire out in the back yard as we speak.....

0over0

Originally posted by Gotrede

I bet Blizzard would want all the glory to themselves.. "Blizzard's a great company! Look at them actually fighting the gold farmers instead of all the other lame companies!" BAH!

Stomping out cockroaches is hardly glorious.

But, I'm sure the other companies are happy to see Blizzard's ultra-deep pockets dive into the fray.

Pappy13

Originally posted by liddokun


Not content to simply sue Peons4Hire.. Blizzard has filed an independent lawsuit in Florida against RMT giant IGE (Internet Gaming Entertainment) co-founded by former child star Brock Pierce. Read all about it here. The clash of the giants starts today.. will the developers/copyright holders of World of Warcraft win or will RMT giants like IGE get away with their illegal ToS/EULA  breaking activities and barely be scrape by the long arms of the law?
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14169
 

Actually, the suit was not brought by Blizzard, but rather an indepent.  One Antonio Hernandez from Florida.

cewpa

Specifically, the independently filed suit, which is not associated with World Of Warcraft creator Blizzard

While the news is good, I wouldn't be patting Blizzard on the back for this one as it clearly has nothing to do with them from the above qoute.

 

Cew

Carufin

Blizzard is not involved with the Florida lawsuit, according to the report.  They are only suing Peons4Hire to stop the in-game spamming.  I applaud them for that, spamming is an abuse of the players.

As for me, I see no 'damages' as a result of money selling by companies such as IGE.  The rate of cash influx into the game economy is controlled by the game design.  Ergo, the "gold farmers" cannot cause gold to enter the game any faster than a similar number of regular players would.

What IGE does is provide a service.  By sparing the player of the mind-numbing gold grind, they provide a value-added service wherein they do the grind, then you pay them a premium for freeing you from the need to grind.  You can now enjoy your game, actually playing it, rather than tediously farming to buy your 5,000 gold flying mount.

Those who lack the disposable cash to purchase gold from IGE resent those that have it, naturally.  And they often construct their gripes in a way that portrays their personal inability to purchase gold as a morally superior position.  I reject those arguments, myself.  I pay people to do my laundry, mow my lawn, and prepare my meals.  That others have to go to the laundromat, mow their own grass, and cook their own food does not make me evil or them good.

Anyone can buy gold from IGE, just as anyone can pay to have their clothes laundered.  There is no intrinsic unfairness involved.

Supernerd

Go Blizzard Go! Finally someone may teach them a lesson!

I think i am going to unfreeze all my Wow accounts now.

Scriar

erm you cant sue someone for being an arsehole in game, which is basically what they are trying to do



why dodge the subject they should say these people are making money from selling products that belong to us, not try to get an injunction that wont do jack, if something could be done about these plebs it would of been done already, if injunctions would do anything even set a precedent there wouldn't be such a large gold selling industry.



You can't sue someone for saying "ahh justin timberlake sucks dont buy his albums", then somone decides ahh thats true ( which it is) and doesn't buy the album, he cant then go and say "amagod uza effected ma sales i r gonna sue ur arse". because it wont hold up in court.



Its the same as saying these people are spamming players in game which is making them leave, what will the court say?



" what did you do to stop them " ahh wait they havnt done anything to stop them untill now, they only recently stopped wispers and mail from trial accounts.



If blizzard don't want gold sellers, then they should get rid of gold buyers, but that would mean a drop in sales which i doubt they want, so they take the stupid route of getting rid of gold sellers, like that will happen



edit ohh im on about them sueing peans4hire it says right at the top of the article that it is nothing to do with blizzard sueing ige

Liddokun

Ahh... I stand corrected then..... it's by an individual not by Blizzard...

One of the reason I quit DDO and WoW is due to the very annoying spams advertising Peons4Hire online gold selling. It's really really very annoying and they flood you both in tells AND your in-game mails with their crap several times per day and sometimes multiple times a week.

Carufin

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Originally posted by Scriar
If blizzard don't want gold sellers, then they should get rid of gold buyers, but that would mean a drop in sales which i doubt they want, so they take the stupid route of getting rid of gold sellers, like that will happen

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Blizzard is not trying to get rid of gold sellers, and has nothing at all to do with the Florida lawsuit. They are only suing Peons4Hire to stop the in-game spamming.

Scriar

Originally posted by Carufin


 

Originally posted by Scriar

If blizzard don't want gold sellers, then they should get rid of gold buyers, but that would mean a drop in sales which i doubt they want, so they take the stupid route of getting rid of gold sellers, like that will happen

Blizzard is not trying to get rid of gold sellers, and has nothing at all to do with the Florida lawsuit. They are only suing Peons4Hire to stop the in-game spamming.

yeah i know thats why i said why dodge it, they arnt sueing they are getting an injunction. they arnt gonna get any money or anything like that for what they are trying to "sue" for

Carufin

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Originally posted by Scriar
yeah i know thats why i said why dodge it, they arnt sueing they are getting an injunction. they arnt gonna get any money or anything like that for what they are trying to "sue" for

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They are neither suing nor getting an injunction. Read the article, reading is fundamental. Neither WoW nor Blizzard is doing anything regarding IGE, they are only issuing a cease and desist against Peons4Hire.

Therefore, your commentary regarding gold sellers and gold buyers was incorrect as regards Blizzard and what they should do, inasmuch as they are doing nothing.

SagaBoy

Originally posted by Gotrede

I bet Blizzard would want all the glory to themselves.. "Blizzard's a great company! Look at them actually fighting the gold farmers instead of all the other lame companies!" BAH!

Have you ever heard the expression "Damned if ya do - Damned if ya don't," because your reply epitomizes that expression.  A previous thread on this subject criticized Blizzard for not going after IGE because they wanted to simply give off the impression that they cared.  Now even after they actually choose to invest the money it'll take to bring up a lawsuit against IGE, you now spit in their face and criticize the method in which they choose to fight.  I mean Blizzard really is damned if they do take action or damned if they don't.

This is not meant as a personal attack at the poster I quoted so much as just a general notification of the irony that I often find on these mmorpg.com forums.

Paks

I was gonna say it was an independent suit and not filed by Blizzard but someone beat me to it.  hehe



Anyway, if this guy wins I wonder what his punitive damages will be?  Personally, I hope he gets millions!



And wasn't the guy that runs IGE arrested for having kiddy porn or something like that a long time ago?

AutemOx

Originally posted by 0over0

Originally posted by Gotrede

I bet Blizzard would want all the glory to themselves.. "Blizzard's a great company! Look at them actually fighting the gold farmers instead of all the other lame companies!" BAH!

Stomping out cockroaches is hardly glorious.

But, I'm sure the other companies are happy to see Blizzard's ultra-deep pockets dive into the fray.

It is when you dress the cockroaches up like dragons and parade blown up pictures of the cockroaches (possibly wandering around a lego city so they look gigantic?) around town square

Scriar

Originally posted by Carufin


 

Originally posted by Scriar

yeah i know thats why i said why dodge it, they arnt sueing they are getting an injunction. they arnt gonna get any money or anything like that for what they are trying to "sue" for

They are neither suing nor getting an injunction. Read the article, reading is fundamental. Neither WoW nor Blizzard is doing anything regarding IGE, they are only issuing a cease and desist against Peons4Hire.

Therefore, your commentary regarding gold sellers and gold buyers was incorrect as regards Blizzard and what they should do, inasmuch as they are doing nothing.

as i mentioned im not on about ige im on about peons4hire, which is also in this topic title. So in that regards i might be right  lol



anyway my bad jokes aside, it doesnt matter what blizzard do, if some thing could be done about gold sellers like i said it would of been done a long time ago

lekiz

Good, finally they're doing something about this. But, I wonder why it took them so long to take action?

Unknown

selling gold in WoW is a black market

Paks

I checked out the law firm that's filing the suit's site and they have a link for anyone to get info on the progress of the suit and for joining the suit as well.  ITheir site is here:  http://www.productsliability.net/our-firm/press-room/featured-news/class-action-filed-against-ige-gold-farmers/



Don't crash it!!  lol

coffee

Buying & selling gold in WoW is not that big of a problem, all the good stuff is only earned from repution rewards and raids, the only reason to buy gold is for epic flying mounts, it has very little effect on the ingame economy or the advancement of a character.



What blizz want to stop is the spamming not the gold selling/buying......  I dont think they are too bothered about gold for the reason above.



In the last patch blizz gave players a new tool, when you get spammed you can press the "report" button, if a single player gets 5 reports he is silenced and cannot talk in chat until blizzard unsilences them after an investigation.  The old method was to report to a GM and the GM would look into it hours even days laters, so I applaude blizzard for adding that... doesnt stop the mail spam though I still get 2-3/week.

Publish6246

Blizzard don't have a chance against IGE :P SOE have tried plenty of times before but failed.

M1sf1t

Some people need to work on their reading comprehension. The lawsuit against IGE was filed by an independent person named Antonio Hernandez of Orlando, Florida. Blizzard did not file this lawsuit and has no connection with it in anyway shape or form.

This lawsuit against IGE does not stand a chance and will get tossed out of the court system. In fact I suspect the plaintiff will get smashed by IGE's legal team and counter-sued for making a frivolous lawsuit.

M1sf1t

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Originally posted by Paks
I was gonna say it was an independent suit and not filed by Blizzard but someone beat me to it. hehe

Anyway, if this guy wins I wonder what his punitive damages will be? Personally, I hope he gets millions!

And wasn't the guy that runs IGE arrested for having kiddy porn or something like that a long time ago?

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That was the guy from "Girls Gone Wild" video fame. Who was arrested for using underage models in his videos.