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pay to beta test kingdom reborn!

twolfertwolfer Member Posts: 72

UO wants you to beta test their game....too bad you have to pay $13 a month to do so....

cant get my screenie posted properly..sorry...but just try to sign up for the beta after recieving a key from fileplanet

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  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Originally posted by twolfer


    UO wants you to beta test their game....too bad you have to pay $13 a month to do so....
    cant get my screenie posted properly..sorry...but just try to sign up for the beta after recieving a key from fileplanet
    No, they don't want you to pay to beta test their game. While it's an archaic method to ask for credit card info to beta test (With no charge if you cancel in 14 days) it's by no means requiring you to pay them In fact you won't be charged until the trial is over. They used to do this all the time with old MMO's and UO just happens to still do it.
  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550
    It says:



    Ultima Online: Kingdom Reborn Beta Test EUR 13,99/mo + first 14 days free



    So they actually do bill for a stupid betatest.



    2 weeks of freeplay ist not a beta.



    FU EA!
  • TicalianoTicaliano Member Posts: 9
    The UO account registration page is a half broken, sloppy mess, and that's putting things nicely. It looks like it was abandoned years ago and carelessly left in an unprofessional state. Clunky screens, broken links, and 20 minutes later, I still can't get through the billing process. After filling out and submitting all of my billing information, I'm looped right back to where I started: the same screen with all of the fields blanked out. No error messages appear, the process just sort of  "reboots" every time I click "submit." I've tried 6 different times with multiple web browsers (Mozilla FireFox and Internet Explorer). No luck with either one. I know the information is correct as I'm currently using the same exact credentials with Turbine for "The Lord of The Rings Online."



    It seems the requirement of a credit card to test drive a game in its beta was not lame enough for EA. They've gone ahead and tossed in some pre-game frustration just for good measure.
  • unixpanixunixpanix Member Posts: 15
    Just cancel before you reach the trial limit, just read it's not that complicated.
  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539
    Paying for a beta is never a good idea.
  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Apparently people still haven't gotten the idea yet.

    YOUR NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING.

    THEY WILL NOT CHARGE YOUR CARD.

    As an alternative you can call them and they will set you up. If you input your credit card, they only validate it.

    They will only try and charge you after the 14 days are up, and you own the game then, your paying for a month not

    the beta testing. If you cancel, AT ANY TIME during the 14 days, you will not be charged a dime.



    This is a standard practice with alot of older mmo's. It stopped a few years ago, but UO still practices.

    It's archaic yes, but not as crazy as people are making it out to be.

    Your not being charged to beta test AT ALL.
  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539

    After being *double* charged by Horizons for four moths *after* I cancelled, I don't trust my credit card number to companies any more without a good reason...and a beta ain't one of them.

     

    That's just me.....

  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Originally posted by SWGLover


    After being *double* charged by Horizons for four moths *after* I cancelled, I don't trust my credit card number to companies any more without a good reason...and a beta ain't one of them.
     
    That's just me.....
    There's a difference between being burned once, and thinking all companies are like that. A few years ago I used to sign up with many trials and the like that way, never had a single bad experience.



    Put it this way, if you go to a little family run corner store and get double charged does that mean you stop using your card altogether?



    I understand you may not like it yourself, but it doesn't mean they are out to squeeze and steal money out of you. Like I said, It's archaic, but it's legit.



    I've gotten a trial from them in the past with zero problems, to be fair, EA has always been good money wise. I've digitally downloaded a few games of theirs, and I've yet to run into a single problem. I understand your caution, and it's your choice ultimately, but I'm just trying to let other users know that it's not a big scam.
  • Lazarus71Lazarus71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,081
    Originally posted by Neveras

    Originally posted by SWGLover


    After being *double* charged by Horizons for four moths *after* I cancelled, I don't trust my credit card number to companies any more without a good reason...and a beta ain't one of them.
     
    That's just me.....
    There's a difference between being burned once, and thinking all companies are like that. A few years ago I used to sign up with many trials and the like that way, never had a single bad experience.



    Put it this way, if you go to a little family run corner store and get double charged does that mean you stop using your card altogether?



    I understand you may not like it yourself, but it doesn't mean they are out to squeeze and steal money out of you. Like I said, It's archaic, but it's legit.



    I've gotten a trial from them in the past with zero problems, to be fair, EA has always been good money wise. I've digitally downloaded a few games of theirs, and I've yet to run into a single problem. I understand your caution, and it's your choice ultimately, but I'm just trying to let other users know that it's not a big scam.I agree people acting like its a scam is ridiculous, but in this day and age there is no reason for it. Let the person play the game for 14 days and if they have not put in there CC info to purchase a sub then shutdown the account. This is by no means difficult for them to do!

    No signature, I don't have a pen

  • TicalianoTicaliano Member Posts: 9
    Well, I finally got the registration issue squared away, but now, I wish I hadn't.  "Unnatural" is the best way to describe Ultima Online : Kingdom Reborn. It felt nothing like Ultima Online in any way, shape or form. They're trying harder than ever to force poor UO into being something that it so clearly is not, and never will be. That being said, Kingdom Reborn is dismal. I can't believe they spent all of that time working on this. Trust me, what I played tonight bordered on comical (and I'm not even talking about the multitude of bugs). So much for "retaining the originality and appeal" of the game. I think it's more than safe to say they've missed that objective by a good mile and a half. Then again, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. We're talking about Electronic Arts here, and I've come to expect nothing less.



    I guess there's not much left for me to say aside from the fact that the future doesn't look bright for our old friend, Ultima Online. And I honestly don't see much in the way of hope, considering they're almost at the end of the public beta. Surely there must be at least one good thing worth mentioning, right? Well, yeah, there is: I got to satisfy my curiosity free of charge. Aside from that, nothing else comes to mind. And if you think I'm exaggerating, please, go see for yourself.

  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539

    I've Beta tested some of the giants of MMORPG's  ( EQ1, etc. ) and I didn't need to give credit card info to do so.
    Why would a company need my CC info for a *BETA* - there's no legitimate reason in the world that they'd need it.
     
    If I need to give CC info for a Beta, it'll pass.
     
     
  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Originally posted by SWGLover



    I've Beta tested some of the giants of MMORPG's  ( EQ1, etc. ) and I didn't need to give credit card info to do so.
    Why would a company need my CC info for a *BETA* - there's no legitimate reason in the world that they'd need it.
     
    If I need to give CC info for a Beta, it'll pass.
     
     

    Ultima Online always required it, as did Asheron's Call, and the first Lineage if I remember right. Like I said, It's an older practice. You are not beta testing a brand new game here, It's Ultima Online trial with the a new coat of paint. In fact you can use your 14 days to just play the vanilla UO. If you've really been playing all these giants since the beginning of MMO's you would have come across quite a few games that required Credit Card info, generally for identification purposes in the past.



    Although I'll give you three perfectly legitimate reasons why a company would want this info: Battling gold sellers. This way, they ban certain cards and stop the proliferation of those who make trial accounts for the sole purpose to spam their gold seller website. If WoW or EQ2 had the same policy we'd be rid of a GIANT problem.



    Age Verification: Again, back then they wanted to appeal to those that could afford a monthly fee, mmo's were a brand new thing and so it was the online easy way to confirm your an adult. (Which you have to be if as you say you beta'd EQ1.)



    Ease of Use: Again, they don't charge you for the trial, the system is set in place so that in case you like the game, want to keep playing with your new character, you can just keep playing, after the 14 days they charge you for the first month and then VOILA your a brand new subscriber. No need to purchase the game anywhere, no need to go through the account process, everything just rolls over and you can continue playing.



    Again, I'm surprised you've never come across this before, especially if you played all of these "giants" of MMO's. This was standard practice for a good long while.
  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539
    It wasn't a requirement for Beta testing EQ1.
  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    IOriginally posted by SWGLover

    It wasn't a requirement for Beta testing EQ1.
    I never stated that in the least. Only that If I remember correctly you had to be an adult.

    I still made my point with the rest of the post.
  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719
    What happens if I they subscribe me after the 14 days and the beta ends? Do I get to play the game without expansions or something?

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  • SramotaSramota Member Posts: 756

    Oh dear god, so you meant they want money for providing a service?
    Nooo.
    It's just an expansion more or less, you'll still have your stuff afterwards, so, ye, pay.

    Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
    It all sucked.

  • NeverasNeveras Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Originally posted by Xzaro

    What happens if I they subscribe me after the 14 days and the beta ends? Do I get to play the game without expansions or something?
    No, you get the game+All expansions up to date. That's what it says on the sign up page. You get to keep playing using the kingdom reborn spiffiness.

    Your not paying to beta test at all.
  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719
    Seems like a great deal.

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  • obiiobii Member UncommonPosts: 804
    I really doubt the new accounts include the latest up to now expansion called Mondains Legacy, as the latest trials only included expansions up to AOS. (Means 2 expansions are missing, Samurai Empire and Mondains Legacy)



    If you can play as elf thoug, then you have the latest expansion.
  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550
    my problem is, i dont even have a CC.



    In europe nobody need something like this.
  • deplorabledeplorable Member Posts: 418
    Originally posted by CasaFranky

    my problem is, i dont even have a CC.



    In europe nobody need something like this.

     

    Most new debit cards have VISA written all over them (even though they're technically debit cards) they still work in the VISA form.

    I know my Bank of Scotland one does.

  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550
    Originally posted by deplorable



    Most new debit cards have VISA written all over them (even though they're technically debit cards) they still work in the VISA form.
    I know my Bank of Scotland one does.


    Mine says only "Maestro"
  • ArtaiosArtaios Member UncommonPosts: 550
    sooo will be there ever a way to check out this game without opening a suscription?
  • DajminDajmin Member Posts: 54

    It's ridiculous to even ask for credit card details during beta. It's obviously a scam they're running, hoping that a load of people forget to cancel within the 14 days and they can get a bit of extra cash. I wouldn't do it, and if everyone did the same they'd have to stop it.

    I've beta tested a load of games from various genres (check my profile for the full list) and never had to hand over card details to do it. If they don't intend to charge you, they shouldn't require any details. They sometimes claim it's to make sure you're over 18, but their own disclaimer will protect them if anyone under the age limit ends up with an account.

    In short, I strongly recommend against doing this kind of thing at all.

  • tomariktomarik Member Posts: 28

    I do have to say this is a pretty low way to do things. They probably do just hope you forget about it. But lets think about it on the other hand what if you do wish to keep your account because you enjoy the game. It does save you some hassle. Finally, in the 90's when UO was huge! People payed to beta test. They had people forking over like $5 to beta test. Also if you don't like a game you usually know in a couple of hours if that or days not 14 days. So cancel asap when you realize your not enjoying your time.

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