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Vanguard Relaunch - free play time for those it wouldnt run for?
Gorror
Member Posts: 28
I'm posting this here because I cant get SOEs own forums to work!
Premis is this:
SOE must collect user data on how often people are logging into thier games, and they must be able to see those people who bought Vanguard and then just couldnt get it to run. With that in mind, they really ought IMHO to offer those people, if not everyone who bought the game another month of free gameplay when they re-launch. Frankly if they dont, then I cant imagine for a moment that all those people who had so many problems in the past are going to waste their time giving it another shot!
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You know, it's not SOEs fault the game is like it is.
YOU who bought the POS should be thankful that they might actually make it playable instead.
Don't bite the hand that feeds and all that
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
Frankly if SOE doesn't consider that idea it may as well write the game off now!
i had been in hope for Vanguard for the last couple of years reading & learning what i could about the promising game. Pre & during the launch i even bought (3) CEs preplanning my lengthy subscriptions for Vanguard to where i would have (1) of each of those: Adventuring, Crafting, & Diplomacy cloaks per account. When i learned Sigil had joined with SOE again i definitely became more pessimistic which is ironic now. Sigil's decision to make the various cloaks for CEs totally random though, the unfinished state of Vanguard, & the poor beta performance which i experienced persuaded me to return (2) of my Vanguard CEs. Definitely a wise decision i feel given what has been going on with Vanguard now, only a wiser decision might have been me returning all (3) Vanguard CEs, but i still had a bit of hope.
What made me pessimistic once is now possibly the best chance for a saving grace for Vanguard. No doubt SOE has inherited more than a few burdens from Sigil. The past & current mistakes of Vanguard shouldn't be placed upon SOE's shoulders to bear but upon Sigil's. Since SOE has decided to acquire Vanguard from Sigil, the melding present & future of Vanguard will be SOE's responsibility. i agree that if SOE offered past & current Vanguard subscribers another free introductory time period after some sort of Vanguard relaunch that gesture might go a long way in enticing those players/customers that felt betrayed to return. However, the dominating factor will be if SOE has enchanced the content & fixed the plethora of glitches in Vanguard. So far though if this Vanguard ship sinks it is because of Sigil not SOE ... yet. Being how the SOE Gnome marketers have always seemed more concerned with profit over customer appreciation i cannot see SOE acquiring Vanguard if they didn't feel they could make it profitable in someway. Hopefully that someway to make it profitable will be beneficial to us players/customers by making Vanguard a better game.
i wont gain from such an offer since my remaining Vanguard CE hasn't even been used yet, but if such a relaunch did occur & i read/heard good things i would heavily consider retrying the game. Recently i even gave some thought to rejoining EQ via the Anniversary Edition after i contacted the SOE customer support & they thoroughly answered a couple of questions. TSR- Sara V. did a good job on SOE's behalf, even though i probably wont rejoin EQ since there seems to be just too much to catch up on when starting brand new. i tried WoW & i like it a lot, but having my account messed up twice in (2) months time right after that Blizzard background download patcher finished is more than coincedence to me. i am glad to see Blizzard taking some action towards all that gold/leveling spamming. At least when i played EQ till Depths of Darkhollow, the security from SOE seemed lots better than Blizzard's WoW but that might be a disportionate perspective given the technology & time frames.
Since i exited EQ a few years ago i made my mind up not to attach myself to any SOE game & i haven't pass a trial or starter time period. The way SOE directed EQ into a mostly raiding noncasual friendly game irritated me & when what you say falls upon deaf ears there is little reason in repeating yourself. Not being able to progress in a game if the player/customer is willing to place the effort is just poor design & in a MMOG one can survive but to thrive it does need a community. If that community reaches a certain X number low or high certain factors come into play that affect the game overall. i think many felt similar based upon the declining subscribers for EQ. All of that aside, i would gladly box my ego if i felt SOE was making a credible effort to make EQ, EQ2, SWG, EQ3 i mean Vanguard better & would definitely reconsider joining. From what i have experienced WoW has them beat so far overall in gameplay, but Blizzard's seemingly lack of concern for WoW security is disturbing.
so, SOE underwrote/produced the game for X months, and then SOE released it (remember -- the release date was dictated by SOE, sigil probably would've been in development for a couple more years milking this cow); yet, SOE had no idea how horrible the game THEY were releasing would be, and therefore is in no way responsible for the fiasco?
yeah, i know, i've read all the stuff about sigil and faking things with MS and on and on. bottom line is soe attached their name to this hog AFTER MS dropped it and SOE then ran the show.
i'm sure this game will be as completely UNDERwhelming as all the other soe titles. is the new trend at soe to do server mergers? says something about them...
i'm curious, how many server mergers has Ultima Online performed over the past 10/11 years?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Dont hold yer breathe the game might have potential ( I suspect this isnt true, I could be wrong ) but wait a year or so because those bugs and optomisations NEED doing. Given the pace of technology and the bad launch and the cut down in staff this may never happen to a massive degree but presumably sony is doing something. Probably making the game appeal to EQ2 players.
Then and only then will I touch this game. Even with the above average hardware I have which could probably run it now. I need otehr peeps to play with as well and we dont all have uber powerful machine.
A re-launch isn't happening. I doubt if SOE was unwilling to spend enough money to keep more than half of Vanguard's original development team, they're going to try and push the massive re-launch scenario Brad called for. SOE will definitely not be giving out any free months...especially since if a machine performed badly 4 months ago, it still will now and 4 months from now.
Wish Darkfall would release.
I used to play VG but one day i couldnt download a patch.I tried to download it for a month or more, i asked friends / forums for ideas that could help me but nothing worked...so i decided to cancel my account and try other games...too bad because i loved it
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The original mentioning of a re-launch was presented as a marketing push alongside other things that would occur throughout the end of this year; separate from the first expansion which would come next year. So within the context of dearly departed Brad's "Future of Vanguard" post over on the official boards, the re-launch was meant to be a separate endeavor.
Personally, ever since Smedley has squashed a lot of rambling Brad mentioned in that very same post, e.g. Brad's listing of specific features and details of the expansion while Smedley has since then said nothing at all was set in stone, I'd go ahead and chock up the whole idea of a re-launch as a fable as well. I doubt if Vanguard's new budget wasn't enough to finance more than half of the original payroll, SOE is going to be willing to create a marketing campaign more expensive than the original one.
The original mentioning of a re-launch was presented as a marketing push alongside other things that would occur throughout the end of this year; separate from the first expansion which would come next year. So within the context of dearly departed Brad's "Future of Vanguard" post over on the official boards, the re-launch was meant to be a separate endeavor.
Personally, ever since Smedley has squashed a lot of rambling Brad mentioned in that very same post, e.g. Brad's listing of specific features and details of the expansion while Smedley has since then said nothing at all was set in stone, I'd go ahead and chock up the whole idea of a re-launch as a fable as well. I doubt if Vanguard's new budget wasn't enough to finance more than half of the original payroll, SOE is going to be willing to create a marketing campaign more expensive than the original one.
You repachage the product, add some additional content, a 30 free trial, throw in a little bit of marketting and what do you have?
A. An expansion pack
B. A relaunch
C. All of the above.
An expansion pack and a relaunch are the exact same thing with a dif. name. The only dif. is that you don't have to have the original game to play the relaunch, but since SoE pachages the original game with the expansions, and a 30 day trial, it really is the exact same thing.
Wish Darkfall would release.
The original mentioning of a re-launch was presented as a marketing push alongside other things that would occur throughout the end of this year; separate from the first expansion which would come next year. So within the context of dearly departed Brad's "Future of Vanguard" post over on the official boards, the re-launch was meant to be a separate endeavor.
Personally, ever since Smedley has squashed a lot of rambling Brad mentioned in that very same post, e.g. Brad's listing of specific features and details of the expansion while Smedley has since then said nothing at all was set in stone, I'd go ahead and chock up the whole idea of a re-launch as a fable as well. I doubt if Vanguard's new budget wasn't enough to finance more than half of the original payroll, SOE is going to be willing to create a marketing campaign more expensive than the original one.
You repachage the product, add some additional content, a 30 free trial, throw in a little bit of marketting and what do you have?
A. An expansion pack
B. A relaunch
C. All of the above.
An expansion pack and a relaunch are the exact same thing with a dif. name. The only dif. is that you don't have to have the original game to play the relaunch, but since SoE pachages the original game with the expansions, and a 30 day trial, it really is the exact same thing.
Sure, but again, the only official mentioning of a "re-launch" was Brad's scenario of something that would occur throughout the end of this year; different from the expansion releasing next year. So if SOE were to follow-up on what Brad mentioned, the re-launch wouldn't be an expansion pack. If SOE planned a re-launch of their own centered around an expansion pack, you'd be right, but they haven't used the word re-launch so far I don't believe; only Brad has, and his explanation of it excludes an expansion pack.This whole "relaunch" idea was some of Brad's babbling and has never been endorsed by SOE.