I found this video while crawling youtube some like kind of rabid snake.
Anyway, this is for your darkfall lovers, and the haters that think its nothing
Beta = 2007
"It's not a game, It's a world"
Videos like this are not something you should base your opinion of the game on, its a fan made video, one that seems to think Darkfall will be the best game ever made when it hasn't released yet, and we still know next to nothing about the game, its not even in its beta yet, its in alpha testing still.
All the stuff that has been mentioned on the forums is mostly speculation, until confirmed by a dev with videos to proove it, then its speculation. Their FAQ is out of date as well so i wouldn't bother reading it either
Certainly is the number one vaporware product. Beyond that...well let's just say that no one has even played the game yet, prettty dumb to say a game is good without playing it.
If this game ever goes live, most of us will be quite shocked. Be even more shocked if it has even a tenth of the content they promise.
I am waiting for them to ask us to pay to beta test it.
If DF doesn't release in 2007 will you finally put this baby to bed? You have to admit at some point it's vaporware. It's been AT LEAST 6 years now. What's your cut off point? 7,8,9,10 years, more?
At some point more development is BAD. AT some point the stuff you did 5 years or more ago is becoming outdated. You can't develop a game for 20 years and expect it to be good. Imagine if EQ the original were just releasing now, because they just now finished it.
Let's hope WAR is good, and that AOC doesn't suck to badly. That's your only hope Princess Leia.
Certainly is the number one vaporware product. Beyond that...well let's just say that no one has even played the game yet, prettty dumb to say a game is good without playing it. If this game ever goes live, most of us will be quite shocked. Be even more shocked if it has even a tenth of the content they promise. I am waiting for them to ask us to pay to beta test it.
Thats gonna be a long wait.
And indeed people have seen it, and a very select few have actually played it.
Certainly is the number one vaporware product. Beyond that...well let's just say that no one has even played the game yet, prettty dumb to say a game is good without playing it. If this game ever goes live, most of us will be quite shocked. Be even more shocked if it has even a tenth of the content they promise. I am waiting for them to ask us to pay to beta test it.
Thats gonna be a long wait.
And indeed people have seen it, and a very select few have actually played it.
Sort of like the Opus Dei or the Priory in The Da Vinci Code? Or maybe it's only the Illuminati that have played the DarkFall?
It's a little silly if not completely flame baiting to say it's the best MMO ever isn't it? Maybe even a little insulting to those that have actually produced and released ACTUAL games to the market.
As it is now, we can equate of the release Darkfall with such mystical happenings as Chupacabra, Big Foot and the Roswell space ship crash. Let's face it, unless it's released, in our hands to be disected and torn appart by players of experience, than there is no reason to talk about it in any sort of comparison with a current live game.
It's a little silly if not completely flame baiting to say it's the best MMO ever isn't it? Maybe even a little insulting to those that have actually produced and released ACTUAL games to the market. As it is now, we can equate of the release Darkfall with such mystical happenings as Chupacabra, Big Foot and the Roswell space ship crash. Let's face it, unless it's released, in our hands to be disected and torn appart by players of experience, than there is no reason to talk about it in any sort of comparison with a current live game.
Do you really care about insulting the developers of DnL, Horizons, MxO, DDO, WoW, etc.? People who shovel crap to the masses deserve disrespect. And telling them that a more than likely vaporware product like Darkfall is better than their actual game is pretty funny.
It's a little silly if not completely flame baiting to say it's the best MMO ever isn't it? Maybe even a little insulting to those that have actually produced and released ACTUAL games to the market. As it is now, we can equate of the release Darkfall with such mystical happenings as Chupacabra, Big Foot and the Roswell space ship crash. Let's face it, unless it's released, in our hands to be disected and torn appart by players of experience, than there is no reason to talk about it in any sort of comparison with a current live game.
Do you really care about insulting the developers of DnL, Horizons, MxO, DDO, WoW, etc.? People who shovel crap to the masses deserve disrespect. And telling them that a more than likely vaporware product like Darkfall is better than their actual game is pretty funny. And completely false. It's easy to promise everything, all those games you listed promised lots of stuff initially and none delivered. In other words talk is cheap and those who have been following MMOs, and paying attention, realize that the only proof is actual gameplay by the masses.
Darkfall has been dogged by speculation that the lack of definite information and publicity, along with the significant time the game has spent in development (since 2001), suggests it is actually vaporware. Aventurine has stated that "The Darkfall community has demonstrated that it doesn't need constant handholding and reassurances," which may explain the company's "information blackout". The only known video of the game appeared to be an early stage alpha at best, however a recent video (30th January 2007) partially discredited these rumours, showing the game in a much more developed stage. Associate Producer Tasos Flambouras has stated that the company "had to pass up many publicity opportunities," and supports this position by stating that "our game can compete a lot better than our publicity can".
It's a little silly if not completely flame baiting to say it's the best MMO ever isn't it? Maybe even a little insulting to those that have actually produced and released ACTUAL games to the market. As it is now, we can equate of the release Darkfall with such mystical happenings as Chupacabra, Big Foot and the Roswell space ship crash. Let's face it, unless it's released, in our hands to be disected and torn appart by players of experience, than there is no reason to talk about it in any sort of comparison with a current live game.
Do you really care about insulting the developers of DnL, Horizons, MxO, DDO, WoW, etc.? People who shovel crap to the masses deserve disrespect. And telling them that a more than likely vaporware product like Darkfall is better than their actual game is pretty funny.
Aside from the fact you mention DnL and WoW in the same sentence (if nothing else you loose all credibility with this alone) I would and do most certainly care about insulting some of those developers. I actually know and have had the great pleasure to meet some people from both the MxO and WoW development teams and I can say with 150% certainty that the greater majority of them have nothing but full commitment and passion for their game and their work.
Insult the game, disagree with its content and pick it apart if you really feel the need (god knows I have ) but to insult the developers who work crazy hours every day to bring their best to the game? To do so proves you (that's a generic "you", not "you" specifically) to be nothing more then a dimwit or at best a coward, as I hasten to say most would not dare say such a thing to their face if they knew the work to put in every single day.
Oh noes, not the dreaded 'you lose all credibility' internet blast again. Do people really understand what that means when they type it? Probably not.
I would gladly tell any of the developers of the games I mentioned what I think about their games to their faces. Where you get this idea that I'm scared of a game developer is beyond me. I'm not going to their headquarters to stalk them, that would be crazy. I will flame them on forums, that's slightly less crazy.
Relax on the internet drama. People do bad work, there are plenty of MMO's that prove that!!
For something like this, "From wikipedia" is equivalent to "from some guy with the time and interest to keep editing the page to get it to say this". The wiki editor kindly make sure to ignore the earlier 'beta soon' announcements (I think I first heard about the imminent beta in 2005), and claims that the January video shows that the game in some kind of significantly developed state, when it clearly doesn't show much of anything about the development of the game.
Darkfall is all hype, no substance at this point. They've been talking big talk for years, but not actually delivering anything but talk and some occasional rendered screenshots and questionable movies.
Guess it`s good that we ressurected the mourning thread, just in time to squash the "chaosgameengine" again, and possibly welcome with open arms the army of Darkfall Fanboi`s.
See ya soon DF peeps, we`ll have the Kleenex waiting.
Not been paying too much attention to this game, but just watched that movie and the main points like it being seamless and without instances makes it sound a lot like Vanguard to me.
Seamless it was not as even though there was no loading screen there was a pause in movement every so often, as annoying as constant lag.
The "without instances" while still including dungeons just meant that there was a constant high level barrage of grinders and lootwhores camping and killing the mobs you needed for quests and selling on the loot you really could have used.
...ofc, i'm sure i'll still check it out on release
I agree with Kwai, even though i am a supporter of this game we still dont know what it will be like when it comes out. It might be the hit game that mmo gamers dream about, and stomp W.O.W in ratings and players. Or it will be a huge disappointment to all the gamers who followed this game for years. Lets not hope for the latter.
Not been paying too much attention to this game, but just watched that movie and the main points like it being seamless and without instances makes it sound a lot like Vanguard to me.
Seamless it was not as even though there was no loading screen there was a pause in movement every so often, as annoying as constant lag.
The "without instances" while still including dungeons just meant that there was a constant high level barrage of grinders and lootwhores camping and killing the mobs you needed for quests and selling on the loot you really could have used.
...ofc, i'm sure i'll still check it out on release
Vanguard was doomed to fail allready in the beta.. since they didnt try to fix lag issues etc. SOE and microsoft pushing release too hard allso made development bad init.. Alot of stuff went bad with vanguard.. however.. darkfall is not a LEVEL based game!
Darkfall unlike vanguard is based on PVP from the beginning.. in Vanguard they wasnt even focusing on PVP AT ALL! it was just something they added to get more customers..!
To the thread OP:
How can you say its the best when allmost noone has tried it yet? and dont expekt it to go beta this summer.. they announced beta quite a few times before..
of course i hope it goes beta SOON! but i doubt it
To those that whine about publishers... Self publishing.. is the way TO GO these days.. Companies as SOE Microsoft and so on will just push it too fast for quick cash. a month or 3 later it will be death.. so if you as a creator want to release a game as YOU WANT IT.. dont rely on other publishers..!
btw. everyone can allways make a deal with fileplanet upon release etc.
Not been paying too much attention to this game, but just watched that movie and the main points like it being seamless and without instances makes it sound a lot like Vanguard to me.
Seamless it was not as even though there was no loading screen there was a pause in movement every so often, as annoying as constant lag.
The "without instances" while still including dungeons just meant that there was a constant high level barrage of grinders and lootwhores camping and killing the mobs you needed for quests and selling on the loot you really could have used.
...ofc, i'm sure i'll still check it out on release
Vanguard was doomed to fail allready in the beta.. since they didnt try to fix lag issues etc. SOE and microsoft pushing release too hard allso made development bad init.. Alot of stuff went bad with vanguard.. however.. darkfall is not a LEVEL based game!
Darkfall unlike vanguard is based on PVP from the beginning.. in Vanguard they wasnt even focusing on PVP AT ALL! it was just something they added to get more customers..!
To the thread OP:
How can you say its the best when allmost noone has tried it yet? and dont expekt it to go beta this summer.. they announced beta quite a few times before..
of course i hope it goes beta SOON! but i doubt it
To those that whine about publishers... Self publishing.. is the way TO GO these days.. Companies as SOE Microsoft and so on will just push it too fast for quick cash. a month or 3 later it will be death.. so if you as a creator want to release a game as YOU WANT IT.. dont rely on other publishers..!
btw. everyone can allways make a deal with fileplanet upon release etc.
I agree on that there bud, publishers have way to much interest in making money instead of making a good game, quick cash instead of a steady cash flow.
The point being they have done so little publicity that few people even know they are still working on it. The entire point of publishing a game is to get all the publicity you can for it, you want a large audience at release. You have to wonder if they even know what marketing is.
Really makes you wonder if they even have a game beyond a simple movie.
Pretty much cements this as king of the vaporware league.
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All the stuff that has been mentioned on the forums is mostly speculation, until confirmed by a dev with videos to proove it, then its speculation. Their FAQ is out of date as well so i wouldn't bother reading it either
Yep. Darkfall is the MMO of the future. And always will be.
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Certainly is the number one vaporware product. Beyond that...well let's just say that no one has even played the game yet, prettty dumb to say a game is good without playing it.
If this game ever goes live, most of us will be quite shocked. Be even more shocked if it has even a tenth of the content they promise.
I am waiting for them to ask us to pay to beta test it.
If DF doesn't release in 2007 will you finally put this baby to bed? You have to admit at some point it's vaporware. It's been AT LEAST 6 years now. What's your cut off point? 7,8,9,10 years, more?
At some point more development is BAD. AT some point the stuff you did 5 years or more ago is becoming outdated. You can't develop a game for 20 years and expect it to be good. Imagine if EQ the original were just releasing now, because they just now finished it.
Let's hope WAR is good, and that AOC doesn't suck to badly. That's your only hope Princess Leia.
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And indeed people have seen it, and a very select few have actually played it.
Thats gonna be a long wait.And indeed people have seen it, and a very select few have actually played it.
Sort of like the Opus Dei or the Priory in The Da Vinci Code? Or maybe it's only the Illuminati that have played the DarkFall?
Whatever happens in the near future...DF is still the best MMO ever to wait for
And the last dev update finally said something about beta....this summer
That sounds so good, i get really mad if its true....
It's a little silly if not completely flame baiting to say it's the best MMO ever isn't it? Maybe even a little insulting to those that have actually produced and released ACTUAL games to the market.
As it is now, we can equate of the release Darkfall with such mystical happenings as Chupacabra, Big Foot and the Roswell space ship crash. Let's face it, unless it's released, in our hands to be disected and torn appart by players of experience, than there is no reason to talk about it in any sort of comparison with a current live game.
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Darkfall has been dogged by speculation that the lack of definite information and publicity, along with the significant time the game has spent in development (since 2001), suggests it is actually vaporware. Aventurine has stated that "The Darkfall community has demonstrated that it doesn't need constant handholding and reassurances," which may explain the company's "information blackout". The only known video of the game appeared to be an early stage alpha at best, however a recent video (30th January 2007) partially discredited these rumours, showing the game in a much more developed stage. Associate Producer Tasos Flambouras has stated that the company "had to pass up many publicity opportunities," and supports this position by stating that "our game can compete a lot better than our publicity can".Aside from the fact you mention DnL and WoW in the same sentence (if nothing else you loose all credibility with this alone) I would and do most certainly care about insulting some of those developers. I actually know and have had the great pleasure to meet some people from both the MxO and WoW development teams and I can say with 150% certainty that the greater majority of them have nothing but full commitment and passion for their game and their work.
Insult the game, disagree with its content and pick it apart if you really feel the need (god knows I have
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Oh noes, not the dreaded 'you lose all credibility' internet blast again. Do people really understand what that means when they type it? Probably not.
I would gladly tell any of the developers of the games I mentioned what I think about their games to their faces. Where you get this idea that I'm scared of a game developer is beyond me. I'm not going to their headquarters to stalk them, that would be crazy. I will flame them on forums, that's slightly less crazy.
Relax on the internet drama. People do bad work, there are plenty of MMO's that prove that!!
For something like this, "From wikipedia" is equivalent to "from some guy with the time and interest to keep editing the page to get it to say this". The wiki editor kindly make sure to ignore the earlier 'beta soon' announcements (I think I first heard about the imminent beta in 2005), and claims that the January video shows that the game in some kind of significantly developed state, when it clearly doesn't show much of anything about the development of the game.
Darkfall is all hype, no substance at this point. They've been talking big talk for years, but not actually delivering anything but talk and some occasional rendered screenshots and questionable movies.
Guess it`s good that we ressurected the mourning thread, just in time to squash the "chaosgameengine" again, and possibly welcome with open arms the army of Darkfall Fanboi`s.
See ya soon DF peeps, we`ll have the Kleenex waiting.
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Yeah, darkfall looked red hot when I first heard of it like 4-5 years ago........
I think we'll see Jesus come back for another tour before we see darkfall release.
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Seamless it was not as even though there was no loading screen there was a pause in movement every so often, as annoying as constant lag.
The "without instances" while still including dungeons just meant that there was a constant high level barrage of grinders and lootwhores camping and killing the mobs you needed for quests and selling on the loot you really could have used.
...ofc, i'm sure i'll still check it out on release
It isnt even released yet and no beta is running for the public, so yea maybe less statements before you got some actual facts.
List of SOE lies
Vanguard was doomed to fail allready in the beta.. since they didnt try to fix lag issues etc. SOE and microsoft pushing release too hard allso made development bad init.. Alot of stuff went bad with vanguard.. however.. darkfall is not a LEVEL based game!
Darkfall unlike vanguard is based on PVP from the beginning.. in Vanguard they wasnt even focusing on PVP AT ALL! it was just something they added to get more customers..!
To the thread OP:
How can you say its the best when allmost noone has tried it yet? and dont expekt it to go beta this summer.. they announced beta quite a few times before..
of course i hope it goes beta SOON! but i doubt it
To those that whine about publishers... Self publishing.. is the way TO GO these days.. Companies as SOE Microsoft and so on will just push it too fast for quick cash. a month or 3 later it will be death.. so if you as a creator want to release a game as YOU WANT IT.. dont rely on other publishers..!
btw. everyone can allways make a deal with fileplanet upon release etc.
Vanguard was doomed to fail allready in the beta.. since they didnt try to fix lag issues etc. SOE and microsoft pushing release too hard allso made development bad init.. Alot of stuff went bad with vanguard.. however.. darkfall is not a LEVEL based game!
Darkfall unlike vanguard is based on PVP from the beginning.. in Vanguard they wasnt even focusing on PVP AT ALL! it was just something they added to get more customers..!
To the thread OP:
How can you say its the best when allmost noone has tried it yet? and dont expekt it to go beta this summer.. they announced beta quite a few times before..
of course i hope it goes beta SOON! but i doubt it
To those that whine about publishers... Self publishing.. is the way TO GO these days.. Companies as SOE Microsoft and so on will just push it too fast for quick cash. a month or 3 later it will be death.. so if you as a creator want to release a game as YOU WANT IT.. dont rely on other publishers..!
btw. everyone can allways make a deal with fileplanet upon release etc.
I agree on that there bud, publishers have way to much interest in making money instead of making a good game, quick cash instead of a steady cash flow.
List of SOE lies
The point being they have done so little publicity that few people even know they are still working on it. The entire point of publishing a game is to get all the publicity you can for it, you want a large audience at release. You have to wonder if they even know what marketing is.
Really makes you wonder if they even have a game beyond a simple movie.
Pretty much cements this as king of the vaporware league.