I hate Paris Hilton because she teaches young girls that being a snobby whore is "cool" and will make you rich and famous. Good thing she is going to jail, because if she did not, it would also be teaching that being a snobby whore makes you immune to the law, and if you whine enough you get what you want.
And the sentence is NOT too tough. It is actually fairly light considering she was driving drunk without a damned license.
And I would like to point out that white people do not have "smaller willies." This rumor came about because white men's are somewhat more elastic, so black guys look longer when they're limp. How do I know this?
Here's a perfect example of what I was saying, ok you want her to go to jail because she's a rich snob. You also seem to think that young females are so brainless that they can be lead by Paris.... hmmm... So Paris goes to jail for being loaded and OJ goes free for murder... yeah go justice system
(Can you feel the sarcasm?)
No
I want her to go to Jail because:
A. She was driving while intoxicated (No Brainer)
B. She received probation and a suspended license plus her signing a judicial contract saying she will not drive with a suspended License.
C. She was caught driving anyways whilst speeding (2 months later)
D. She was sent to court and told NOT to do it again.
E. She was caught driving anyways whilst speeding (1 month later)
F. She was late to court because she doesn't read her mail. She has "someone else" who does that for her.
G. She was sentenced 45 days
H. She had her sentence reduced to 23 for unforseen good time in jail.
This is why she went to jail and this is why SHE SHOULD go to jail. Why was many people pissed because she was let out?
A. She said she developed a horrible rash because she could not wax and was not allowed to bring in her stylists and her own shampoos.
B. She claimed she was having a nervous breakdown. 100% of all new inmates who never been to jail has some form of nervous breakdown. Nothing new.
C. Inmates with medical problems are sent to the hospital. Not back home.
D. Judge explicitly stated that she is NOT to return home under any circumstances until the 23 days are over.
E. Sheriff thought her rash was a "Severe Medical Condition" which equates to the Sheriff banging Paris in the cell block in exhange to go home.
F. Judge and Prosecutor finds out about her release from the News and Sheriff was in contempt of court.
G. Today happened.
Hopefully, you'll now see why people were pissed to see her let go after 3 days. Also, hopefully, you'll see why she was sent to jail in first place.
I dont care who you are. If you are busted for a DWI and then get caught driving with a suspended license and then gets caught AGAIN!! youll go to jail.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Why did the judge increase her sentence though? It wasn't her fault that she got put into house arrest. If he wanted to punish anyone for that he should have gone after the sheriff who let her go. I think maybe he let his anger get the best of him or wanted to make some kind of tough guy portrayal for the cameras.
I actually kind of feel sorry for her. I don't know what being her is like or growing up like her. I know she needs to learn that she is not above the law, but I also don't feel like it's right to make fun of her or hope the worse. I hope she straightens herself out and makes a good person of herself and gets the help she needs. I heard on the news today that she is a very depressed person, even before this. We've all heard that having that much money is not all roses and happiness, and it's proven true all the time. She was born into that, so she hasn't known any different. The world must seem very different to someone if that's all they've known. But you can't despise her for that. Her crimes, yeah she was wrong, but judging her is wrong too.
She was originally suppose to get 45 days. She was then told to do 23 days in jail and the remaining time under house arrest under the presupposition that she spent those 23 days under good behavior.
Apparently the Judge was pissed off by her whining in the jail cell. Remember, she pressed the panic button over 45 times an hour. Every time a panic button is pushed, the officers have to attend to her which causes them to loose focus on the other inmates. This is not a definition of good behavior. Its a definition of greifing and the Judge denied her early release on good behavior, thus reinstating her full sentence.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You know the whole while this has been going on all I've thought was, Who the hell cares,
All the people are sick and tired of seeing the rich and famous getting away with anything because of who they are. All the people who truly want to see Lady Justice blind folded and not biased based on fame. That's who cares.
Funny you should chop that down and bypass everything I posted after to boot...You are so infatuated with Paris Hilton that I am certain nothing anyone says to answer your questions will be good enough for you. Which is fine....just means I will no longer respond to your questions here.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train.
You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues.
We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic.
Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.
LOL I WAS PISSED! when i found out she wont gunna go to jail. Cuz think about it whats that say about our justice system...ahem if you are a celeb and a spoiled bitch the law does not apply....F that
ROFL then the judge did this and... I want his autograph....LOL i hope the spoiled bitch rots
This is just a case of the legal system trying to make a point, instead of actually working. They did the same thing with Martha Stewart and her horrible insider trading.
I wish they would spend our tax dollars and the courts' valuable time actually convicting real criminals of real crimes. Also with all of the overcrowding in the prisons, maybe they shouldn't be using up jail cells to hold people that have no business being in jail.
See the thing is that Paris was famous and rich. People that aren't rich or famous hate people that are. Would you guys be all in a fuss if cousin johnny was consistently let out of prison by his cousin the town sheriff in a small town of 30 people in Montana? Nope. No one would care. No one would be calling for the injustice to be corrected. Heck that was half of what the Dukes of Hazzard TV show was about. Daisy always getting them out of jail early. So honestly America has no problem with people who commit small crimes and who have not hurt anyone getting little to (in most cases) no jail time. And most of American has no problem with the "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" system. In the end it all comes back to these people being Rich and Famous.
And all of your examples are flawed. Rich and Famous socialites are different from Rock stars, movies stars, or athletes. People don't want to see their favorite actor, rocker, or athlete go to jail. They do want to see that rich "snob" get hurt though. That is why people (especially people who are born into richness) who get rich from other means always end up getting the book thrown at them more, then their movie, rocker, athlete counterparts.
And for the guy who didn't know who Warren Buffet is look him up. He is only the 2nd or 3rd richest man in the world. He is considered one of the greatest investors in history, he started with absolutely nothing and got some backing from friends, neighbors, family and built a vast fortune in his stock Berkshire Hathaway. He is also going to be one of the largest philanthropists(sp?) ever in history. He stated he will be giving away his 50+ billion dollar fortune to various charities, and has already started doing so by donating to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
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@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they? She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.
Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Originally posted by olddaddy
Originally posted by baff
She's not accountable to you Oldy, and much more of the world revolves around her than ever will you or I. And if you go to the same restaurent as her, you aren't going to get first choice of table either.
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Originally posted by Lanmoragon
Timeviewer do you realize she broke the law? We dont need to feel hate for her to think she should serve her jail time. She broke the law, several times. Hell she even got off the hook once. Then she goes to jail and has an "illness" that gives her a get out of jail free card.
THATS why people are pissed. Anybody who wasnt a celebrity (and im sure some celebrities too) would have had to serve their time, whether they had some small illness or not (at least serve in the hospital wing if thats the case)
Got it?
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"
@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train. You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues. We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic. Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.
Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
This is just a case of the legal system trying to make a point, instead of actually working. They did the same thing with Martha Stewart and her horrible insider trading.
I wish they would spend our tax dollars and the courts' valuable time actually convicting real criminals of real crimes. Also with all of the overcrowding in the prisons, maybe they shouldn't be using up jail cells to hold people that have no business being in jail.
See the thing is that Paris was famous and rich. People that aren't rich or famous hate people that are. Would you guys be all in a fuss if cousin johnny was consistently let out of prison by his cousin the town sheriff in a small town of 30 people in Montana? Nope. No one would care. No one would be calling for the injustice to be corrected. Heck that was half of what the Dukes of Hazzard TV show was about. Daisy always getting them out of jail early. So honestly America has no problem with people who commit small crimes and who have not hurt anyone getting little to (in most cases) no jail time. And most of American has no problem with the "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" system. In the end it all comes back to these people being Rich and Famous.
And all of your examples are flawed. Rich and Famous socialites are different from Rock stars, movies stars, or athletes. People don't want to see their favorite actor, rocker, or athlete go to jail. They do want to see that rich "snob" get hurt though. That is why people (especially people who are born into richness) who get rich from other means always end up getting the book thrown at them more, then their movie, rocker, athlete counterparts.
And for the guy who didn't know who Warren Buffet is look him up. He is only the 2nd or 3rd richest man in the world. He is considered one of the greatest investors in history, he started with absolutely nothing and got some backing from friends, neighbors, family and built a vast fortune in his stock Berkshire Hathaway. He is also going to be one of the largest philanthropists(sp?) ever in history. He stated he will be giving away his 50+ billion dollar fortune to various charities, and has already started doing so by donating to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
This is so wrong. People do not hate Paris Hilton because she is rich, they hate her because she continually demonstartes an arrogant contempt for all things around her that she feels are beneath her. I say things, because she treats people as things.
Second, one of the major causes of highway deaths in the United States is driving under the influence. You seem to think DUI is not serious, not a crime in which anyone gets hurt. You are precisely the type of person that MADD is trying to educate regarding the seriousneess of DUI. This is not a "boys will be boys" crime. People die of it. If Paris Hilton was a poor slob of a factory worker the criminal justice system would behave the same, attempt to achieve behaviour modification so she would willingly stop being a DUI menace to the other drivers on the roads. The purpose of the criminal justice system is not to blindly punish, it is to achieve behaviour modification. DUI incidents can be prevented, yet you seem to think it appropriate that the police apply their time to something else, something you deem more important. If Johnny was consistently let out of jail for DUI by his cousin in Montana, there would be a serious problem with the criminal justice system, as Johnny would never realize that DUI and endangering other drivers on the road is not appropriate. And when Johnny killed someone, do we let him out so he can do it again?
People do not hate people because they are rich. They hate people based on the way they act. Try not being rich and walk around being an asshole. Try randomly treating other people as subhuman hubris. Walk up and fondle any woman yoi see on the street. You will find people hate you, and are glad to see the criminal justice system give you what you have coming. An asshole is an asshole, whether they are rich or not.
People do not hate Warren Bufet. He is rich. He has also done all those things that you say. He is not an arrogant asshole who holds things he believes beneath him, like people and the justice system, in contempt. He isnot an athlete, rock star, or movie star. By your logic, we should hate him and want to see him in jail because he is a socialite. But we don't. Why, because he knows how to conduct himself properly in society. On the other hand, OJ, and a Carolina Panthers player, for example were charged with murder. Michael jackson was charged with child molestation. Whether they are convicted, or acquitted, is based on the merits of the case. It is not up to the justice system to say, "No, we won't charge this person because their fans would not like to see them in jail". That, would be an injustice.
"I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine". Where did you get your criminal justice degree from, Mexico? You think Americans willingly accept a two tiered system of justice based on that?
You are so wrong in your understanding of what the judge was trying to achieve. He was actually doing his job, exactly as it is designed.
@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they? She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.
Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Originally posted by olddaddy
Originally posted by baff
She's not accountable to you Oldy, and much more of the world revolves around her than ever will you or I. And if you go to the same restaurent as her, you aren't going to get first choice of table either.
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Originally posted by Lanmoragon
Timeviewer do you realize she broke the law? We dont need to feel hate for her to think she should serve her jail time. She broke the law, several times. Hell she even got off the hook once. Then she goes to jail and has an "illness" that gives her a get out of jail free card.
THATS why people are pissed. Anybody who wasnt a celebrity (and im sure some celebrities too) would have had to serve their time, whether they had some small illness or not (at least serve in the hospital wing if thats the case)
Got it?
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"
First off, yes you are contradicting yourself, just saying you aren't doesn't make it different, your posts show you obviously have a bit of venom in you about the girl, just fess up to it dude, as to the other comment I know what it is, I've been around the block a few hundred times myself, and I'm glad you got a laugh there since that was what I intended But your comment does validate one of the main points I've been trying to get across in here.
Originally posted by olddaddy
Originally posted by TimeViewer
@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train. You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues. We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic. Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.
Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.
The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.
The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.
To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.
@olddaddy (in lieu of quoting you) you're still doing the same thing everyone else is doing, slapping her in jail just because you don't like her. As to sticking her celebrity status at everyone who did that in the first place? The media, everytime we turn around she, or the flavor of the time, is slapped all over the news. Other people have come on, done their little "I'm sorry" tour, doesn't mean they actually mean it, hell if they couldn't lie about it they wouldn't be very good actors or politicians would they? She may need to learn a lesson but as I said before I've seen people do far worse and get off with far less, hell I see it every day. What we really need is the media to stop flashing her, and others on the TV, newspapers, radio, and internet everytime they step outside or act like an idiot, I know enough idiots without having my media flooded with more. Just look at this forum alone, how many gloating posts and threads have been made? and why? It's not real news it's just a distraction, and a poor one at best.
Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Originally posted by olddaddy
Originally posted by baff
She's not accountable to you Oldy, and much more of the world revolves around her than ever will you or I. And if you go to the same restaurent as her, you aren't going to get first choice of table either.
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Originally posted by Lanmoragon
Timeviewer do you realize she broke the law? We dont need to feel hate for her to think she should serve her jail time. She broke the law, several times. Hell she even got off the hook once. Then she goes to jail and has an "illness" that gives her a get out of jail free card.
THATS why people are pissed. Anybody who wasnt a celebrity (and im sure some celebrities too) would have had to serve their time, whether they had some small illness or not (at least serve in the hospital wing if thats the case)
Got it?
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"
First off, yes you are contradicting yourself, just saying you aren't doesn't make it different, your posts show you obviously have a bit of venom in you about the girl, just fess up to it dude, as to the other comment I know what it is, I've been around the block a few hundred times myself, and I'm glad you got a laugh there since that was what I intended But your comment does validate one of the main points I've been trying to get across in here.
Originally posted by olddaddy
Originally posted by TimeViewer
@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train. You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues. We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic. Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.
Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.
The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.
The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.
To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.
I don't believe the sherif has the authority to make the call he did. That's up to the courts.
He had no right to release anyone from prison, regardless of the reasons. A judge didn't tell him to do it, a polotician with the authority didn't tell him to do it, no one one but himself came to the dicision.
It is his job to uphold the law, not make them, or take them into his own hands. If Paris Hilton needed to be released from prison, regardless of why, the proper procedure shoudl have been followed, and there is no circumstance that gives a sherif the right to free someone from prison.
The reason for her release wasn't stated as prison overcrowding, it was a nerveous breakdown, and a rash. The sherif gave her treatment that none of the other inmates are allowed. Paris Hilton is required to abide by the same laws everyone else is, she is no different then any of the other inmates and should not have recieved special treatment regardless of the reason.
Preventing people from taking photos doesn't cost the prison more money. The only people that can take photos are the guards and it's up to the warden of the prison to ensure tha his employees are following the rules. The guards are already there, and getting paid. No new guards had to be brought in. None of the guards recieved pay raises when she was brought in. And I dought that the kitchen had to prepare extra food just for her. The idea that one single prisoner is costing the prison more money is a tad melodramatic. It takes MANY prisoners to effect the prisons budget in a profound way. Releasing her was not eleviating the prison financially.
If some guard felt they were being inconvenienced with her there, then tough crap. It is there job to look after the prisoners, every prisoner. If she was being a problem then they should have put her someplace were she would be less of a problem, like solitary confinement, that's what it's for. The could have just as easily posted a single guard, if possible, outside her sell to make sure that she wasn't in need of medical attention. She would have been there less then a month.
Just because one inmate is a pain in the ass does not give anyone the right to circumvent the judicial system. I don't care who that person is.
If the court says you do this much time, you do that much time. You can not justify the sherifs behavior. I would say that most people don't give a damn who she is, but what they saw was another thing. A rich girl recieved special treatment to get out of prison, and THAT is what upsets people. It's not because it's Paris, it's because it was someone with money. I'm sure there are plenty of other people in that prison right now who are in there for nothing more serious then Paris was put there for, that are required to server thier time. Why can't they get out, because they aren't Paris Hilton, they aren't rich.
Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.
Frankly, just because you say I am contradicting myself doesn't make it so. I stand by my statement. It is her conduct that I don't like. Second off, I frankly do not care whether you are about my own age our not. Please tell me where your criminal justice/legal degree comes from. This is my field of expertise.
The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.
She was released from jail for health reasons. Overcrowding was not the reason given. This is why the Sheriff was subjected to contempt of court charges. In an overcrowding situation prisoners are transferred between various county jails to meet capacity restrictions. You seem to feel release from jail for overcrowding purposes is acceptable in our society. It is not, taxpayer's like you whine about the costs, whine when they become victims, but fail to put up the tax dollars to take correction action to address the problem.
The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.
Your truth may be jealousy and sex, my truth, and the truth of many others, is they she exhibits contempt for the criminal justice system, turning it into a mockery, because she believes she is above the laws of our society. Remember when Leona Helmsley said "only the little people pay taxes". She went to jail because she exhibited contempt for the justice system, indicating that her behaviour was not modifiable. Martha Stewert went to jail for perjury, lying to law enforcement officials. Telling the truth is a fundamental pillar of our criminal justice system, if there is no expectation that a person will tell the truth before a grand jury, our entire criminal justice system stands in jeopardy.
To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.
The judge did his job properly. The OJ verdict was not guilty, you may wish to send a man to prison for murder following a not guilty verdict, but it is totally inappropriate. Paris did not plea not guilty, she acknowledged DUI.
Obviously you are the one incapable of objective analysis of the facts in this case, with little understanding of the inner workings of the criminal justice system. Yes, I am pleased, as are many others, that justice was served in this case. Crying for her mother in the police car is another inappropriate example of not acknowledging and atoning for her DUI. She is still trying to avoid responsibility for her actions.
Originally posted by TimeViewer Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be. Frankly, just because you say I am contradicting myself doesn't make it so. I stand by my statement. It is her conduct that I don't like. Second off, I frankly do not care whether you are about my own age our not. Please tell me where your criminal justice/legal degree comes from. This is my field of expertise. Im afraid it does make it so, your first sentence was that you neither like nor dislike her then you second went on to describe that you don't like her attitude, the two are not mutually exclusive they are one and the same you're trying to act like you're impartial but your obviously not, as to the age I mentioned that because you wanted to try talking down to me, fine you want to act like an ass I'll treat you like one instead of trying to converse with you like an adult. Grow the hell up and look at what a petty little schmuck you're acting like fool. The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be. She was released from jail for health reasons. Overcrowding was not the reason given. This is why the Sheriff was subjected to contempt of court charges. In an overcrowding situation prisoners are transferred between various county jails to meet capacity restrictions. You seem to feel release from jail for overcrowding purposes is acceptable in our society. It is not, taxpayer's like you whine about the costs, whine when they become victims, but fail to put up the tax dollars to take correction action to address the problem. I read the article and yes it did say that the Sheriff released her due to overcrowding, try reading the damn thing yourself The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia. Your truth may be jealousy and sex, my truth, and the truth of many others, is they she exhibits contempt for the criminal justice system, turning it into a mockery, because she believes she is above the laws of our society. Remember when Leona Helmsley said "only the little people pay taxes". She went to jail because she exhibited contempt for the justice system, indicating that her behaviour was not modifiable. Martha Stewert went to jail for perjury, lying to law enforcement officials. Telling the truth is a fundamental pillar of our criminal justice system, if there is no expectation that a person will tell the truth before a grand jury, our entire criminal justice system stands in jeopardy. Truth is self evident and it's very self evident in this string from the postings that it is nothing more than childish gloating To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt. The judge did his job properly. The OJ verdict was not guilty, you may wish to send a man to prison for murder following a not guilty verdict, but it is totally inappropriate. Paris did not plea not guilty, she acknowledged DUI. Obviously you are the one incapable of objective analysis of the facts in this case, with little understanding of the inner workings of the criminal justice system. Yes, I am pleased, as are many others, that justice was served in this case. Crying for her mother in the police car is another inappropriate example of not acknowledging and atoning for her DUI. She is still trying to avoid responsibility for her actions. I'd have to say that you're the one incapable of being objective since you're so dead set on gloating on a girl crying in the car, how utterly pathetic, like I said grow the hell up schmuck You're not interested in justice at all just in serving some petty inner need to pick on someone you so obviously dislike, what is it does she remind you of some girl who blew you off? or maybe every girl who didn't like you. You're just as pathetic as every other schmuck here posting their little gloating, actually you're even worse because at least most of them are not trying to hide behind a false air of impartiality.
No one's calling anyone else in this thread a schmuck but you TimeViewer.
I haven't gloated over Paris being put in jail. On top of being rude, you're generalizing, and lashing out at everyone in the thread that disagrees with you. That's hardly a sign of maturity in a 32 year old.
You can't seem to grasp that it doesn't matter what the sherif's reason for letting Parish out of prison, he didn't have the authority, or right to do so.
Some of us don't give a damn that it was Paris. Some of us only care that a sherif took it upon hisself to take someone out of prison that was ordered there by a court.
I don't care what reason the sherif gives, or how you justify his actions, the only reason he did it is because it's Paris Hilton.
Or has this guy released other people from prison to help with overcrowding?
This is just a case of the legal system trying to make a point, instead of actually working. They did the same thing with Martha Stewart and her horrible insider trading.
I wish they would spend our tax dollars and the courts' valuable time actually convicting real criminals of real crimes. Also with all of the overcrowding in the prisons, maybe they shouldn't be using up jail cells to hold people that have no business being in jail.
See the thing is that Paris was famous and rich. People that aren't rich or famous hate people that are. Would you guys be all in a fuss if cousin johnny was consistently let out of prison by his cousin the town sheriff in a small town of 30 people in Montana? Nope. No one would care. No one would be calling for the injustice to be corrected. Heck that was half of what the Dukes of Hazzard TV show was about. Daisy always getting them out of jail early. So honestly America has no problem with people who commit small crimes and who have not hurt anyone getting little to (in most cases) no jail time. And most of American has no problem with the "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" system. In the end it all comes back to these people being Rich and Famous.
And all of your examples are flawed. Rich and Famous socialites are different from Rock stars, movies stars, or athletes. People don't want to see their favorite actor, rocker, or athlete go to jail. They do want to see that rich "snob" get hurt though. That is why people (especially people who are born into richness) who get rich from other means always end up getting the book thrown at them more, then their movie, rocker, athlete counterparts.
And for the guy who didn't know who Warren Buffet is look him up. He is only the 2nd or 3rd richest man in the world. He is considered one of the greatest investors in history, he started with absolutely nothing and got some backing from friends, neighbors, family and built a vast fortune in his stock Berkshire Hathaway. He is also going to be one of the largest philanthropists(sp?) ever in history. He stated he will be giving away his 50+ billion dollar fortune to various charities, and has already started doing so by donating to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
This is so wrong. People do not hate Paris Hilton because she is rich, they hate her because she continually demonstartes an arrogant contempt for all things around her that she feels are beneath her. I say things, because she treats people as things.
People acted the same way to Martha Stewart and she doesn't act arrogant or show contempt for all things around her.
Second, one of the major causes of highway deaths in the United States is driving under the influence. You seem to think DUI is not serious, not a crime in which anyone gets hurt. You are precisely the type of person that MADD is trying to educate regarding the seriousneess of DUI. This is not a "boys will be boys" crime. People die of it. If Paris Hilton was a poor slob of a factory worker the criminal justice system would behave the same, attempt to achieve behaviour modification so she would willingly stop being a DUI menace to the other drivers on the roads. The purpose of the criminal justice system is not to blindly punish, it is to achieve behaviour modification. DUI incidents can be prevented, yet you seem to think it appropriate that the police apply their time to something else, something you deem more important. If Johnny was consistently let out of jail for DUI by his cousin in Montana, there would be a serious problem with the criminal justice system, as Johnny would never realize that DUI and endangering other drivers on the road is not appropriate. And when Johnny killed someone, do we let him out so he can do it again?
Iceland has just a system. DUIs are taken care of by a small fine. Heck all crimes in Iceland are pretty much taken care of by fines and guess what they are the happiest people in the world. They have the least crime in the world. You can leave your baby in the stroller outside of a store and not have to worry about people stealing the child. Heck if a crime is committed you get out of prison for holidays and weekends.
People do not hate people because they are rich. They hate people based on the way they act. Try not being rich and walk around being an asshole. Try randomly treating other people as subhuman hubris. Walk up and fondle any woman yoi see on the street. You will find people hate you, and are glad to see the criminal justice system give you what you have coming. An asshole is an asshole, whether they are rich or not.
Have you ever met Paris Hilton? I seriously doubt you have. So you are basing your opinion on no factual data. You think she isn't a nice person and hate her for it, but you have never had a conversation with the woman. So you are seriously biased in the conversation.
People do not hate Warren Bufet. He is rich. He has also done all those things that you say. He is not an arrogant asshole who holds things he believes beneath him, like people and the justice system, in contempt. He isnot an athlete, rock star, or movie star. By your logic, we should hate him and want to see him in jail because he is a socialite. But we don't. Why, because he knows how to conduct himself properly in society. On the other hand, OJ, and a Carolina Panthers player, for example were charged with murder. Michael jackson was charged with child molestation. Whether they are convicted, or acquitted, is based on the merits of the case. It is not up to the justice system to say, "No, we won't charge this person because their fans would not like to see them in jail". That, would be an injustice.
Warren Buffet is not a socialite, neither is bill Gates, neither is Oprah, neither is Stephen Spielberg, etc etc. They are people that are admired because they came from nothing and built up their fortune. On the other hand the vast majority of the population hates Socialites for no reason other then jealousy that the person was born into wealth.
"I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine". Where did you get your criminal justice degree from, Mexico? You think Americans willingly accept a two tiered system of justice based on that?
You are so wrong in your understanding of what the judge was trying to achieve. He was actually doing his job, exactly as it is designed.
No he wasn't. He was trying to make a point. Otherwise he would of put her in a treatment facility since she has an obvious problem with alcohol usage.
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Actually.. one of the articles mentions that prisons there are so over crowded that a lot of the cases go free early.
But is the sherif allowed to pick and chose?
Seems like the warden and a judge would be the ones that make that decision.
When a decission like that needs to be made, it should be unbiased and the proper procedures followed. Didn't happen in this case.
Edit: How exactly did the sheriff manage this, or does the prison not have a warden, and if it does have one, wouldn't he have to aprove the early release of a prisoner?
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Here's a perfect example of what I was saying, ok you want her to go to jail because she's a rich snob. You also seem to think that young females are so brainless that they can be lead by Paris.... hmmm... So Paris goes to jail for being loaded and OJ goes free for murder... yeah go justice system
(Can you feel the sarcasm?)
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I want her to go to Jail because:
A. She was driving while intoxicated (No Brainer)
B. She received probation and a suspended license plus her signing a judicial contract saying she will not drive with a suspended License.
C. She was caught driving anyways whilst speeding (2 months later)
D. She was sent to court and told NOT to do it again.
E. She was caught driving anyways whilst speeding (1 month later)
F. She was late to court because she doesn't read her mail. She has "someone else" who does that for her.
G. She was sentenced 45 days
H. She had her sentence reduced to 23 for unforseen good time in jail.
This is why she went to jail and this is why SHE SHOULD go to jail. Why was many people pissed because she was let out?
A. She said she developed a horrible rash because she could not wax and was not allowed to bring in her stylists and her own shampoos.
B. She claimed she was having a nervous breakdown. 100% of all new inmates who never been to jail has some form of nervous breakdown. Nothing new.
C. Inmates with medical problems are sent to the hospital. Not back home.
D. Judge explicitly stated that she is NOT to return home under any circumstances until the 23 days are over.
E. Sheriff thought her rash was a "Severe Medical Condition" which equates to the Sheriff banging Paris in the cell block in exhange to go home.
F. Judge and Prosecutor finds out about her release from the News and Sheriff was in contempt of court.
G. Today happened.
Hopefully, you'll now see why people were pissed to see her let go after 3 days. Also, hopefully, you'll see why she was sent to jail in first place.
I dont care who you are. If you are busted for a DWI and then get caught driving with a suspended license and then gets caught AGAIN!! youll go to jail.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
She was originally suppose to get 45 days. She was then told to do 23 days in jail and the remaining time under house arrest under the presupposition that she spent those 23 days under good behavior.
Apparently the Judge was pissed off by her whining in the jail cell. Remember, she pressed the panic button over 45 times an hour. Every time a panic button is pushed, the officers have to attend to her which causes them to loose focus on the other inmates. This is not a definition of good behavior. Its a definition of greifing and the Judge denied her early release on good behavior, thus reinstating her full sentence.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Funny you should chop that down and bypass everything I posted after to boot...You are so infatuated with Paris Hilton that I am certain nothing anyone says to answer your questions will be good enough for you. Which is fine....just means I will no longer respond to your questions here.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
@Enigma As I said in my postings (which maybe you should read in entire) she sould be punished, but from both your postings and others in here it's quite obvious you aren't looking for the justice you claim, if you were you wouldn't be concentrating your efforts on one little airhead. You're jumping on the "I hate Paris" fad train.
You pick out a few words here and there and because someone doesn't agree with you try to manipulate the conversation, just like when you chopped down my first response to just my opening words, then ignored what I said after to make it look like what you wanted it to without responding to the real issues.
We all know the list, it's been posted in this string enough times already, it still doesn't validate everyone's overreaction, or even your own for starting this thread in the first place. Your interest wasn't in justice, it was in gloating over the suffering of one little airhead, there's nothing just in that, to me it's just pathetic.
Edit: Oh and that last post just proves my point, you try and lay some "your so infatuated" claim on me pfft you wont respond because you have no valid argument or justification.
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Justice never looked so sweet....hahaha
LOL I WAS PISSED! when i found out she wont gunna go to jail. Cuz think about it whats that say about our justice system...ahem if you are a celeb and a spoiled bitch the law does not apply....F that
ROFL then the judge did this and... I want his autograph....LOL i hope the spoiled bitch rots
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I wish they would spend our tax dollars and the courts' valuable time actually convicting real criminals of real crimes. Also with all of the overcrowding in the prisons, maybe they shouldn't be using up jail cells to hold people that have no business being in jail.
See the thing is that Paris was famous and rich. People that aren't rich or famous hate people that are. Would you guys be all in a fuss if cousin johnny was consistently let out of prison by his cousin the town sheriff in a small town of 30 people in Montana? Nope. No one would care. No one would be calling for the injustice to be corrected. Heck that was half of what the Dukes of Hazzard TV show was about. Daisy always getting them out of jail early. So honestly America has no problem with people who commit small crimes and who have not hurt anyone getting little to (in most cases) no jail time. And most of American has no problem with the "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" system. In the end it all comes back to these people being Rich and Famous.
And all of your examples are flawed. Rich and Famous socialites are different from Rock stars, movies stars, or athletes. People don't want to see their favorite actor, rocker, or athlete go to jail. They do want to see that rich "snob" get hurt though. That is why people (especially people who are born into richness) who get rich from other means always end up getting the book thrown at them more, then their movie, rocker, athlete counterparts.
And for the guy who didn't know who Warren Buffet is look him up. He is only the 2nd or 3rd richest man in the world. He is considered one of the greatest investors in history, he started with absolutely nothing and got some backing from friends, neighbors, family and built a vast fortune in his stock Berkshire Hathaway. He is also going to be one of the largest philanthropists(sp?) ever in history. He stated he will be giving away his 50+ billion dollar fortune to various charities, and has already started doing so by donating to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.
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Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
This is so wrong. People do not hate Paris Hilton because she is rich, they hate her because she continually demonstartes an arrogant contempt for all things around her that she feels are beneath her. I say things, because she treats people as things.
Second, one of the major causes of highway deaths in the United States is driving under the influence. You seem to think DUI is not serious, not a crime in which anyone gets hurt. You are precisely the type of person that MADD is trying to educate regarding the seriousneess of DUI. This is not a "boys will be boys" crime. People die of it. If Paris Hilton was a poor slob of a factory worker the criminal justice system would behave the same, attempt to achieve behaviour modification so she would willingly stop being a DUI menace to the other drivers on the roads. The purpose of the criminal justice system is not to blindly punish, it is to achieve behaviour modification. DUI incidents can be prevented, yet you seem to think it appropriate that the police apply their time to something else, something you deem more important. If Johnny was consistently let out of jail for DUI by his cousin in Montana, there would be a serious problem with the criminal justice system, as Johnny would never realize that DUI and endangering other drivers on the road is not appropriate. And when Johnny killed someone, do we let him out so he can do it again?
People do not hate people because they are rich. They hate people based on the way they act. Try not being rich and walk around being an asshole. Try randomly treating other people as subhuman hubris. Walk up and fondle any woman yoi see on the street. You will find people hate you, and are glad to see the criminal justice system give you what you have coming. An asshole is an asshole, whether they are rich or not.
People do not hate Warren Bufet. He is rich. He has also done all those things that you say. He is not an arrogant asshole who holds things he believes beneath him, like people and the justice system, in contempt. He isnot an athlete, rock star, or movie star. By your logic, we should hate him and want to see him in jail because he is a socialite. But we don't. Why, because he knows how to conduct himself properly in society. On the other hand, OJ, and a Carolina Panthers player, for example were charged with murder. Michael jackson was charged with child molestation. Whether they are convicted, or acquitted, is based on the merits of the case. It is not up to the justice system to say, "No, we won't charge this person because their fans would not like to see them in jail". That, would be an injustice.
"I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine". Where did you get your criminal justice degree from, Mexico? You think Americans willingly accept a two tiered system of justice based on that?
You are so wrong in your understanding of what the judge was trying to achieve. He was actually doing his job, exactly as it is designed.
No, people are tired of those with money getting away with crimes witha slap on the wrist.
As it is, she is still getting off light.
Wish Darkfall would release.
Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"First off, yes you are contradicting yourself, just saying you aren't doesn't make it different, your posts show you obviously have a bit of venom in you about the girl, just fess up to it dude, as to the other comment I know what it is, I've been around the block a few hundred times myself, and I'm glad you got a laugh there since that was what I intended
Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.
The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.
The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.
To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.
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Not correct, I neither like nor dislike her. What I do not like is her attitude, that she is above all the rest and not accountable to anyone. That the world revolves around her, and her alone. And she rubs the world's nose in it.
Umm you're contradicting both your entire previous post and this one in your first two sentences, you say you neither like nor dislike her then go on to say what you dislike about her, and not one word of either is a good reason to send someone to jail.
No, I don't contradict my posts, I do neither like nor dislike her. What I do dislike is her attitude and her actions. If she were to behave with consideration and empathy she would chamge alot of people's feelings toward her.
Oh, and this...
Paris and I don't frequent the same restaurants.
She should be damned glad she's not accountable to me, cause I never hit no bitch that didn't have it comin'.
Sounds like you have some latent bondage/S&M issues with her
ROTFLOL. Wrong, this is a street statement that is used quite often in various media. It is like asking, "Do you still beat your wife". It is a joke, same as the statement that Paris Hilton and I do not frequent the same restaurants. Are you dense to think those two comments are actually serious responses to Baff's ludicrous points? He was trying to "get my goat", get a rise out of me, my response to hime was to throw it back and show he wasn't going to succeed.
Umm maybe you should go back over my postings and read them so that YOU get it, I realize you probably just read only my last posting instead of following what's been said, and, no offense really intended, kind of stuck your foot in your mouth, but you can't really rely on the last comment in a conversation as a "sums it all up"First off, yes you are contradicting yourself, just saying you aren't doesn't make it different, your posts show you obviously have a bit of venom in you about the girl, just fess up to it dude, as to the other comment I know what it is, I've been around the block a few hundred times myself, and I'm glad you got a laugh there since that was what I intended
Let me explain to you how the US criminal justice system works. For those of you that are Catholic, you will notice the similiarities to confession.
Firstoff, whether it be a police officer, or a judge, they are looking for certain actions from the accussed. First is an act of acknowledgement that the accused knows that what they did was wrong. The second is a sign of a sincere act of contrition. Then, and only then, is mitigation of the penalty appropriate because the ground work has been laid for behaviour modification.
So, if you are speeding through the school zone to drop your child off at school and get into work on time, and the Police officer stops you, and you say "F You" to him, you are going to punished to the full extent of the law. You have failed to acknowledge wrong doing, you have not provided an act of contrition, the officer sees no possibilty of bahaviour modification, so mitigation is inappropriate.
Now, if you said to the officer how stupid you had just acted, that you had just endangered the lives of other children around the school by speeding in the school zone for the selfish purpose of droppin your child off ahead of the others, and said it with remorse, not arrogance, there is a very strong possibility that you would not receive a ticket (based on other factors, like priors).
Paris Hilton has not provided a sincere acknowledgement that driving under the influence is wrong. She originally had her penalty mitigated, yet she demonstrated that her act of contrition was not sincere by not abiding by the mitigated penalty. In short, she arrogantly demonstrated to the justice system that she is not accountable to it, and that even a mitigated penalty does not apply to her.
The judge responded appropriately. Without a sincere act of acknowledgement and an act of contrition he returned the penalty to its unmitigated state. She now must serve the original sentence for her arrogant contempt that the law and the consequences do not apply to her. In this manner the justice system attempts to achieve behaviour modification. Perhaps next time she will think before driving under the influence.
Ok first off, I know very well how the judicial system works, as well as how it's suppose to work (please note the irony there) (btw check my age I'm near your own age) . You really should read my other posts in this string too, just as I've had to tell a few others. Yes I know what laws were broken and yes she should be punished for it, my issues aren't with that part of it, nor do I even like the bink. Personally I could care less about her she's about as far from what I like or even would hang with as can be.
The Sheriff let her out because of over crowding, a common enough problem with jails today, and it does cost a lot to keep her, and as the Sheriff said monitor every employee's cell phone for photos, money that would be better spent keeping real criminals, like murderers and rapists, behind those same bars. The judge is acting like a rabid animal because he wants the fame for himself, and he's not really getting it the way the OJ judge did. Everytime he blows his top he's showing that he is as far from impartiality as he could possibly be.
The truth of what everyone here is after is displayed in their gloating comments about her wealth and of course the sexual comments, it's not justice that drives this it's jealousy and sex, or I should say the lack of. That and the desire to be popular themselves by jumping on the latest fad, the "I hate that trashy rich Paris Hilton" train. As I've said before I've seen people act like her all the time, hell we'd have to toss 98% of our college population in prison with her if you want to toss in drunks, snobby we'd have to toss in a good chunk of suburbia.
To me this is more of a witch hunt, the judge wants to make a name for hisself and has gotten more than a little rabid at times during this. Just look at these posts, even the original, they claim they're looking for justice, that one saying "justice never looked so sweet" with a picture of her crying is a perfect example, it's simple gloating not a desire for justice, it's petty and beneath what the justice system is suppose to represent, hell it's beneath simple human dignity for that matter. Another good example was the guy who posted that he was fine with the OJ verdict but that Paris needed to go to jail for justice to be served, how a murderer going free and a drunk being locked up serves justice is beyond me, instead it shows me that this isn't a desire for justice but a witch hunt.
I don't believe the sherif has the authority to make the call he did. That's up to the courts.
He had no right to release anyone from prison, regardless of the reasons. A judge didn't tell him to do it, a polotician with the authority didn't tell him to do it, no one one but himself came to the dicision.
It is his job to uphold the law, not make them, or take them into his own hands. If Paris Hilton needed to be released from prison, regardless of why, the proper procedure shoudl have been followed, and there is no circumstance that gives a sherif the right to free someone from prison.
The reason for her release wasn't stated as prison overcrowding, it was a nerveous breakdown, and a rash. The sherif gave her treatment that none of the other inmates are allowed. Paris Hilton is required to abide by the same laws everyone else is, she is no different then any of the other inmates and should not have recieved special treatment regardless of the reason.
Preventing people from taking photos doesn't cost the prison more money. The only people that can take photos are the guards and it's up to the warden of the prison to ensure tha his employees are following the rules. The guards are already there, and getting paid. No new guards had to be brought in. None of the guards recieved pay raises when she was brought in. And I dought that the kitchen had to prepare extra food just for her. The idea that one single prisoner is costing the prison more money is a tad melodramatic. It takes MANY prisoners to effect the prisons budget in a profound way. Releasing her was not eleviating the prison financially.
If some guard felt they were being inconvenienced with her there, then tough crap. It is there job to look after the prisoners, every prisoner. If she was being a problem then they should have put her someplace were she would be less of a problem, like solitary confinement, that's what it's for. The could have just as easily posted a single guard, if possible, outside her sell to make sure that she wasn't in need of medical attention. She would have been there less then a month.
Just because one inmate is a pain in the ass does not give anyone the right to circumvent the judicial system. I don't care who that person is.
If the court says you do this much time, you do that much time. You can not justify the sherifs behavior. I would say that most people don't give a damn who she is, but what they saw was another thing. A rich girl recieved special treatment to get out of prison, and THAT is what upsets people. It's not because it's Paris, it's because it was someone with money. I'm sure there are plenty of other people in that prison right now who are in there for nothing more serious then Paris was put there for, that are required to server thier time. Why can't they get out, because they aren't Paris Hilton, they aren't rich.
Wish Darkfall would release.
Right
The sheriff didnt have the right to do what he did. If he did, Paris would be back out today.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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good itz about time a celebrity gets punished just like the rest of the people on this earth....
who wants to make a bet that shell be out after 20 days for "Extra Good Behavior" thatll be ashame
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No one's calling anyone else in this thread a schmuck but you TimeViewer.
I haven't gloated over Paris being put in jail. On top of being rude, you're generalizing, and lashing out at everyone in the thread that disagrees with you. That's hardly a sign of maturity in a 32 year old.
You can't seem to grasp that it doesn't matter what the sherif's reason for letting Parish out of prison, he didn't have the authority, or right to do so.
Some of us don't give a damn that it was Paris. Some of us only care that a sherif took it upon hisself to take someone out of prison that was ordered there by a court.
I don't care what reason the sherif gives, or how you justify his actions, the only reason he did it is because it's Paris Hilton.
Or has this guy released other people from prison to help with overcrowding?
Wish Darkfall would release.
This is so wrong. People do not hate Paris Hilton because she is rich, they hate her because she continually demonstartes an arrogant contempt for all things around her that she feels are beneath her. I say things, because she treats people as things.
People acted the same way to Martha Stewart and she doesn't act arrogant or show contempt for all things around her.
Second, one of the major causes of highway deaths in the United States is driving under the influence. You seem to think DUI is not serious, not a crime in which anyone gets hurt. You are precisely the type of person that MADD is trying to educate regarding the seriousneess of DUI. This is not a "boys will be boys" crime. People die of it. If Paris Hilton was a poor slob of a factory worker the criminal justice system would behave the same, attempt to achieve behaviour modification so she would willingly stop being a DUI menace to the other drivers on the roads. The purpose of the criminal justice system is not to blindly punish, it is to achieve behaviour modification. DUI incidents can be prevented, yet you seem to think it appropriate that the police apply their time to something else, something you deem more important. If Johnny was consistently let out of jail for DUI by his cousin in Montana, there would be a serious problem with the criminal justice system, as Johnny would never realize that DUI and endangering other drivers on the road is not appropriate. And when Johnny killed someone, do we let him out so he can do it again?
Iceland has just a system. DUIs are taken care of by a small fine. Heck all crimes in Iceland are pretty much taken care of by fines and guess what they are the happiest people in the world. They have the least crime in the world. You can leave your baby in the stroller outside of a store and not have to worry about people stealing the child. Heck if a crime is committed you get out of prison for holidays and weekends.
People do not hate people because they are rich. They hate people based on the way they act. Try not being rich and walk around being an asshole. Try randomly treating other people as subhuman hubris. Walk up and fondle any woman yoi see on the street. You will find people hate you, and are glad to see the criminal justice system give you what you have coming. An asshole is an asshole, whether they are rich or not.
Have you ever met Paris Hilton? I seriously doubt you have. So you are basing your opinion on no factual data. You think she isn't a nice person and hate her for it, but you have never had a conversation with the woman. So you are seriously biased in the conversation.
People do not hate Warren Bufet. He is rich. He has also done all those things that you say. He is not an arrogant asshole who holds things he believes beneath him, like people and the justice system, in contempt. He isnot an athlete, rock star, or movie star. By your logic, we should hate him and want to see him in jail because he is a socialite. But we don't. Why, because he knows how to conduct himself properly in society. On the other hand, OJ, and a Carolina Panthers player, for example were charged with murder. Michael jackson was charged with child molestation. Whether they are convicted, or acquitted, is based on the merits of the case. It is not up to the justice system to say, "No, we won't charge this person because their fans would not like to see them in jail". That, would be an injustice.
Warren Buffet is not a socialite, neither is bill Gates, neither is Oprah, neither is Stephen Spielberg, etc etc. They are people that are admired because they came from nothing and built up their fortune. On the other hand the vast majority of the population hates Socialites for no reason other then jealousy that the person was born into wealth.
"I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine". Where did you get your criminal justice degree from, Mexico? You think Americans willingly accept a two tiered system of justice based on that?
You are so wrong in your understanding of what the judge was trying to achieve. He was actually doing his job, exactly as it is designed.
No he wasn't. He was trying to make a point. Otherwise he would of put her in a treatment facility since she has an obvious problem with alcohol usage.
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But is the sherif allowed to pick and chose?
Seems like the warden and a judge would be the ones that make that decision.
When a decission like that needs to be made, it should be unbiased and the proper procedures followed. Didn't happen in this case.
Edit: How exactly did the sheriff manage this, or does the prison not have a warden, and if it does have one, wouldn't he have to aprove the early release of a prisoner?
Wish Darkfall would release.