Quite obvious that the OP is not very familiar with this game at all. Nothing like spewing complete nonsense in a thread. They had one incident last summer and nothing since. Sorry you can make up all the conspiracy theories you want. Seems the popular thing to do. The problem is if you actually played the game, you would realize that all these made up theories are exactly that, made up nonsense. Not one shred of proof has been presented by anyone. Then you had to post this drival: "As far as people taking the game too seriously, there is proof that five paid and non-paid staff of CCP are engaged in improprieties against the subscribers." There is NO proof any where of anything such. I get tired of refutting this muckraking, especially when no one can provide even the existance of the smoking gun. So slander CCP if you must, but you are just another in a long line of whiners with no leg to stand on.
Dont bother yourself with this. Just play the game and have fun You aren´t payed to defend CCP.
MMOGs are often plagued by griefers. I think that all the forum whining and trolling by these types will help keep their own insideous kind out of a game that isn't really for them. This will allow them more time to bathe in their own self-righteousness.
I myself have played every MMOG I can get my hands on and EVE online is the only one that's still being played by me for over 2 and a half years. If these self-styled custodians of morality leave the game and/or convince others like them not to play it then I don't really see a problem here.
"You tire of it because it isn't muckraking. You tire of it because everyone who isn't tied to CCP has seen the evidence from Goon, Kugutsumen, et al, and it confirms what most everyone already knew."
I really have to laugh at ill-informed posters that use totally debunked sources like Kugutsumen or the goons. Basically just confirms your troll status as you offer nothing new to the topic, just repeat nonsense posted by others.
Who would trust the Goons for information anyways? They've been proven to scam, shame, lie, and generally act cruel to just get their "fun" out of the game.
Funny how people trust a corporation based on causing suffering to others. And then also takes their opinion from a guy that steals information, constructs that information entirely out of context to get what he wants it to say, and then "leaks" it.
If you really play EvE instead of Forum Warrior'ing, you'd be too busy blowing up goonfleet, and getting chased around by enormous blobs in 0.0 or lowsec like I do. And wouldn't have time to worry about this. Of course, that only covers my side of EvE pvp... someone who does industrial/mission running will have to follow me up with their opinion .
I have played EVE Online for some time but only in a casual way as I never really had the time to be hard core with it. I wasn't too bothered by the allegations as I was more bothered by the institutionalized cheating that they had developed.
The idea that it is a cold cruel universe and to buyer beware is all fine and good but what do you do when CCP sets things up to make it easy for someone to scam another player but not provide any method of retribution? To simply say that a market is a buyer beware market isn't cutting it in my opinion. If someone puts up for sale something that isn't what they claim it to be then there should be a method to punish that indivdual. Possibly a rating system. Possibly hunt them down and kill them. Possibly a merchant enforcement squad. The current implementation means that a significant portion of contracts in EVE at the moment are designed not to simply make money but to defraud people. For me the result is that you have to wade through page after page of scams and if you fail to spot a problem in a contract then the only thing you can do is ignore future contracts from that indvidual.
If they want to introduce PvP to the capital markets then CCP needs to provide an avenue of retribution for those that scam. Otherwise they need to clean it up.
For me it was enough to have me cancel my accounts and to leave the game. Just got tired of all the bullshit in the game because of this attitude of CCP.
Also a slight comment on the number of people playing Eve Online. There might be 100,000 or even 200,000 accounts but the number of people playing the game actively is probably under 20,000. You seldom see more than 20,000-22,000 players online at any one time and many of these people are running multiple accounts. They have an account for PvPing, one for Empire space, possibly they have a miner and/or a hauler alternate. What it means is that for Eve Online the number of accounts definitely does not represent the number of people playing the game or the number that might be online. This is true of many RPGs but Eve easily has more players owning multiple accounts than any other game that I have played.
Note also that with 20,000 players online that in many regions the game becomes very fragile. Yes it's one big server but the game really can't handle that many people online and in the same area at the same time. If everyone online flew to Jita I suspect that the server would simply die. (And, yes I'm aware that the traffic control system would restrict the number of people that could jump into the system so this can't really be done).
Don't know when you play eve, but from prime time Europe to prime time across the US the server always has 28-30k people on the server that is about half the day. I can't remember the last time I saw log on count at 22k, been too long. It is not that laggy except in certain congested systems, where you deserve to lag if you go to them.
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I myself have played every MMOG I can get my hands on and EVE online is the only one that's still being played by me for over 2 and a half years. If these self-styled custodians of morality leave the game and/or convince others like them not to play it then I don't really see a problem here.
"You tire of it because it isn't muckraking. You tire of it because everyone who isn't tied to CCP has seen the evidence from Goon, Kugutsumen, et al, and it confirms what most everyone already knew."
I really have to laugh at ill-informed posters that use totally debunked sources like Kugutsumen or the goons. Basically just confirms your troll status as you offer nothing new to the topic, just repeat nonsense posted by others.
Funny how people trust a corporation based on causing suffering to others. And then also takes their opinion from a guy that steals information, constructs that information entirely out of context to get what he wants it to say, and then "leaks" it.
If you really play EvE instead of Forum Warrior'ing, you'd be too busy blowing up goonfleet, and getting chased around by enormous blobs in 0.0 or lowsec like I do. And wouldn't have time to worry about this. Of course, that only covers my side of EvE pvp... someone who does industrial/mission running will have to follow me up with their opinion
I have played EVE Online for some time but only in a casual way as I never really had the time to be hard core with it. I wasn't too bothered by the allegations as I was more bothered by the institutionalized cheating that they had developed.
The idea that it is a cold cruel universe and to buyer beware is all fine and good but what do you do when CCP sets things up to make it easy for someone to scam another player but not provide any method of retribution? To simply say that a market is a buyer beware market isn't cutting it in my opinion. If someone puts up for sale something that isn't what they claim it to be then there should be a method to punish that indivdual. Possibly a rating system. Possibly hunt them down and kill them. Possibly a merchant enforcement squad. The current implementation means that a significant portion of contracts in EVE at the moment are designed not to simply make money but to defraud people. For me the result is that you have to wade through page after page of scams and if you fail to spot a problem in a contract then the only thing you can do is ignore future contracts from that indvidual.
If they want to introduce PvP to the capital markets then CCP needs to provide an avenue of retribution for those that scam. Otherwise they need to clean it up.
For me it was enough to have me cancel my accounts and to leave the game. Just got tired of all the bullshit in the game because of this attitude of CCP.
Also a slight comment on the number of people playing Eve Online. There might be 100,000 or even 200,000 accounts but the number of people playing the game actively is probably under 20,000. You seldom see more than 20,000-22,000 players online at any one time and many of these people are running multiple accounts. They have an account for PvPing, one for Empire space, possibly they have a miner and/or a hauler alternate. What it means is that for Eve Online the number of accounts definitely does not represent the number of people playing the game or the number that might be online. This is true of many RPGs but Eve easily has more players owning multiple accounts than any other game that I have played.
Note also that with 20,000 players online that in many regions the game becomes very fragile. Yes it's one big server but the game really can't handle that many people online and in the same area at the same time. If everyone online flew to Jita I suspect that the server would simply die. (And, yes I'm aware that the traffic control system would restrict the number of people that could jump into the system so this can't really be done).