It seems that we can't avoid purchasing windows vista. Microsoft pays a lot and therefore many future games may just "ignore" previous versions of windows and directX.
As for the "WOW" the wow starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsxaMyFV2Y . It's Ubuntu (humanity) Linux with Xgl. Shame that game companies do not support free OS.
Using Windows Vista slowed down Wow and VG Gameplay noticable. I also had problems with exchanging Files to XP which I had to do because the EQ2 updater did not run at all. But it has nice visuals and the superuser concept is a good aproach to increasing windows security. After all I did not really regret to buy it ..
Originally posted by Ipcryss I applaude MMORPG.com's attempt and I think the questions asked were good ones. But, Microsoft's responses read like a mix between a marketing brochure and a defense attorney's objections in a court room. What a bunch of stuffed shirts they are. -snip-
My thoughts exactly, and it doesn't reflect well on MS' "games for windows".
Here we all are, a group of gamers trying to get information from Games For Windows, and all they can be bothered to throw us is PR fluff and an advertisement.
*golf clap*
This isn't something that I'm knocking mmorpg.com for.
I agree with others here in that (at least thus far) their so-called 'Games For Windows initiative' is a branding campaign and little else.
I bought windows vista when it was first released. I have an amdx2 4300 and i've not had 1 problem with Vista. The only problem i have is waiting on devs to optimize games for dx10. AoC is supposed to be the first real made for dx10 game so i can't wait to play it.
I have Vista. It's on a shelf next to my computer. It seems to work best there
I have 4gigs of ram and it still slowed down my machine. It also blew a hard drive and 2 Nvidia 7800gtx's. Thank god Evga is such a great company and replaced the cards.
How about a refund, Bill?
I have to agree with you completely as my copy of Vista is also sitting next to my computer an it will stay there untill they come out with a fix so tha I can play WOW which at this time is my game of choice. I tried it and ended up hateing it!!!
Gaming based... w/e. More like a memory and hard drive space whore...
Lol, the definition of a true PC Gamer.
*not directed to above quoted poster*
Microsoft's just givin PC gamers what they want. Is it really surprising to everyone that the new OS is faulty? Tha's nothin new. Also, why would they want to make PC gaming better just to compete with xbox 360?
Hey, look at it this way: even if you upgraded and bought a couple games for windows and are having troubles at least you didn't buy a PS3. Well, if you bought both then that must be a bummer.
So far Vista has not worked out for me - no drivers for my printer, won't open ports for games, too restrictive even as Admin...
I think I'm going to try to find another copy of XP to put on my new computer [while I can!] Hell, I still have one old computer sitting around with Win98 on it to play some of my DOS games [DOSbox is nice, but there are a few games I can't get it to work with ]
I've been using vista since beta and till the last RC. Imho is an excellent product, I don't think it would actually blow any pc, Is not overpriced, I own ultimate and I couldn't be happier. For gaming, I honestly like what I see of directx 10, I have an nvidia XFX 8800 GTX and it works like a charm. Good product, I must agree in the part that is a little expensive, but worth the money imho.
Installed Vista UE on my dual core e6600 (on 680i) with 8800 GTX and 4GB RAM. No problem at all through the install, only issue was it lost my wireless network connection. A bit of playing with it fixed it, though I still don't know how I fixed it
As for games, I run FSX, GW, EQII and a few others without any performance or stability issue. VISTA does look nicer and offers a few things out of the box which are helpful and useful. DX10? Don't know since I haven't seen any games released for it yet...
You people who don't see a diffirence in gameplay, be realistic, not all of us have the money to buy a 8800GTX, 4Gig and Vista for that matter. Getting low performance on those machines is just plain ridiculous.
If you want to prove people otherwise, do so by staying in the "lines" of the common hardware setup.
I have tried Vista myself on a 5600+, 2gig, 7900GT and i had very significant slowdowns compared to XP, especially in TES4.
You people don't see a diffirence, simply because those cards out-perform Vista. And GW isn't the most demanding game around either ...
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Vista is a joke...
All decisions, small, large and even unnecessary... has involved lawyers, marketing,
engineers, and no doubt countless managers. If you ever wondered why Vista got
so delayed and why it's so darn overpriced… This is one of the few reasons.
Every detail has been thought through like it was a choice between life and death.
- Vista is all about restricting the user from true freedom.
- Vista is like a newborn child.. Dumb, clumpsy, childlish, immature, hungry (well at least on RAM),
and lets not forget it drewls on your components making them sloppy, and it will keep
you awake at night.. Not because it screams or that it makes you so happy you have to stay
up and watch it sleep like an angel. Rather because it will irritate you to the point that
you will fall into a "delivery depression" and murder Vista (reformat) without a second thought,
not telling your older son (Windows XP) of what happened and why you abandoned him in the first place..
It seems that we can't avoid purchasing windows vista. Microsoft pays a lot and therefore many future games may just "ignore" previous versions of windows and directX.
As for the "WOW" the wow starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsxaMyFV2Y . It's Ubuntu (humanity) Linux with Xgl. Shame that game companies do not support free OS.
My thoughts exactly, and it doesn't reflect well on MS' "games for windows".
Here we all are, a group of gamers trying to get information from Games For Windows, and all they can be bothered to throw us is PR fluff and an advertisement.
*golf clap*
This isn't something that I'm knocking mmorpg.com for.
I agree with others here in that (at least thus far) their so-called 'Games For Windows initiative' is a branding campaign and little else.
~Mysk
I have Vista. It's on a shelf next to my computer. It seems to work best there
I have 4gigs of ram and it still slowed down my machine. It also blew a hard drive and 2 Nvidia 7800gtx's. Thank god Evga is such a great company and replaced the cards.
How about a refund, Bill?
I have to agree with you completely as my copy of Vista is also sitting next to my computer an it will stay there untill they come out with a fix so tha I can play WOW which at this time is my game of choice. I tried it and ended up hateing it!!!
Just my 2 cents on Vista
i havent read this many canned responses in years.
i would have told the guy to kiss my ass until he decided he actually wanted to talk to me. geesh how freakin insulting
Games i'm playing right now...
"In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com
*not directed to above quoted poster*
Microsoft's just givin PC gamers what they want. Is it really surprising to everyone that the new OS is faulty? Tha's nothin new. Also, why would they want to make PC gaming better just to compete with xbox 360?
Hey, look at it this way: even if you upgraded and bought a couple games for windows and are having troubles at least you didn't buy a PS3. Well, if you bought both then that must be a bummer.
I think I'm going to try to find another copy of XP to put on my new computer [while I can!] Hell, I still have one old computer sitting around with Win98 on it to play some of my DOS games [DOSbox is nice, but there are a few games I can't get it to work with
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well i have loaded vista 4 times now and 4 times i have had to go back to xp.
Here is my system
intel quadcore
4 gig of ram
2 bfg 8800 graphic's cards
nvidia 60i motherboard
i am so pissed of that my system wont run vista is it nvidia problem or MS i dont know.
Just venting
Dimitrio Darkblade
Founder Leader of Vitae Essentia
http://www.veguild.org
As for games, I run FSX, GW, EQII and a few others without any performance or stability issue. VISTA does look nicer and offers a few things out of the box which are helpful and useful. DX10? Don't know since I haven't seen any games released for it yet...
Cheers.
ok, got this.
You people who don't see a diffirence in gameplay, be realistic, not all of us have the money to buy a 8800GTX, 4Gig and Vista for that matter. Getting low performance on those machines is just plain ridiculous.
If you want to prove people otherwise, do so by staying in the "lines" of the common hardware setup.
I have tried Vista myself on a 5600+, 2gig, 7900GT and i had very significant slowdowns compared to XP, especially in TES4.
You people don't see a diffirence, simply because those cards out-perform Vista. And GW isn't the most demanding game around either ...