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AoC Fanbois...Mature Rating means NOTHING!
spikenog
Member Posts: 283
Please stop saying that this game will have more mature players than other MMOs, it's simply not true.
A mature person can be of any age. An immature person can also be of...any age. Just because you have to be "this old" to buy the game does not mean you will have a mature player base.
I have met plenty of people that will be able to purchase AoC due to their age, but should be not allowed to play it due to their maturity level. Also, I know of people below the age that are more mature than some adults...but they will not be able to buy it.
Remember...though they are often considered the same...Maturity and Age are different. Stopping using the "Mature" to build hype for the game...it's lame and immature.'
AoC is looking to be a great game and many are looking forward to it (including myself)...stop mucking it up for the rest of us.
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Obviously :P
I agree though. Not so obvious to some
What did you have to do to research this? Follow around a Halo player for a week?
So what, do you want someone to apologize for the ESRB's wording in the rating system? Waaah. It's not like we put the word Mature and associated it with the age 17+.
I agree.. The AoC fanbase is pretty immature but that's hardly news.
Mature means 17+ in ratings right? So... they DID associate it with 17+.... or was it 18? doesnt matter to me.
Mature means 17+ in ratings right? So... they DID associate it with 17+.... or was it 18? doesnt matter to me.
Regardless of the number they assigned, it's not like WE assigned it.
While I do agree with your age versus maturity argument I think the key phrase is "will have more mature players than other mmos". I think that it will if for no other reason than the fact that it has a mature rating. That would certainly mean that kids, while not the only immature folks but are the lion's share of them, would have a harder time getting the game. This relies of course on them having parents that care what they play of course. So I do agree that there will be immature players, but I bet not as many as we have come to expect these days. At least we can hope.
Mature means 17+ in ratings right? So... they DID associate it with 17+.... or was it 18? doesnt matter to me.
Regardless of the number they assigned, it's not like WE assigned it.
I understand what you were saying . I just dont think you understood what the OP ment. He is targetting the crowd that goes by the Rating strictly :P There are people like this, I have talked to a few
Yes, there are people above 18 that aren't mature, and there are people below 18 that are.
The thing is the percentage. There is a way higher percentage of 10-15 year olds that aren't mature, than there are people 20+ that aren't mature. You don't expect kids under 16 to be mature, because most of them aren't. You expect people above 20 years to be able to show a certain level of maturity, even though there are many of them that aren't mature.
If nobody under 17 would play the game, then yes, there would be a more mature playerbase. Nobody is saying that there will be a completely mature playerbase, because we are aware that there are people above 17 that aren't mature at all. However, removing the kids removes a large part of the immature playerbase, and that helps a lot
However, it's extremely unlikely that kids won't play the game, beucase way too many parents don't care about what their children play or do on a computer. But that's a whole other discussion
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That mature rating guarantees us freedom from suck-ass parents who can't take responsibility for what their children play and deranged political asshats that think all games should be marketed toward 6 year olds.
In other words, FC is spared from having to water down the games content for fear of lawsuits.
As far as keeping the immature out, there is a /ignore feature for a reason.
And if a youngster, mature or not, is stupid enough to post his/her age in chat or over ventrillo, or I hear some kid sayin' "Mom, what do I do now?", damn tootin' they'll be reported and banned.
I have an 8 year old daughter. Will she be playing? Hell no. And when she asks if she can play daddy's game, she'll have it explained to her that daddy's game is too grown up for her. She will undrstand, as i have always set boundaries for her and explained the reason for those boundaries each time.
And I will play my game.
The rating for AoC will be its downfall. Just because it's gonna have "boobies" in it younger people will want to get it. The rating system does nothing but provide an earmark for responsible adults. Doesn't help when people have 18+ siblings or friend with older siblings. Don't try to hide behind something so worthless. Just hope that since AoC needs a pretty good computer that many of the younger crowd won't be able to play it at all or for long. That's the only thing you have protecting you.
There are a big misconception that age doesn't matter. I agree that someone at the age of 30+ can act just as immature as a 16-year-old, but there are still a big difference.
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Adults have (mostly) some kind of hard earned life experience, and they will therefore have a more evolved social intelligence.
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Your brain is simply not fully evolved until the age of (generally) 21.
I know a lot of kids wants everyone to think of them as adults, and consequently tries to behave like one, but there are many more factors then just the way you behave. I realize there will still be some young people playing this game, but I hope at least some of the parents will look at what their kids are playing, before they give them their credit card.
give it a rest who cares. we all know people will lie to get in whatever. if people want to be immature let them. just ignore them. if your having fun with the game you shouldnt be bothered by immature people. if they want to waste there money bein stupid on games let them. just play with people as mature as you. ignore the rest.
I thought about this myself for some time... In fact I believe AoC will have the most immature Community ever...
Think about it: To a mature Person (meaning a Person with a mature Mind), Nudity and Gore and Blood aren't reasons to play a game. They may be bonuses, but after all you won't play the Game if you don't like it's Gameplay. To an immature Person however, seeing "Nude Chicks" and being able to chop heads off IS a reason to play a game. (Just think of Duke Nukem 3D, or Mortal Kombat and such... Man Hunt also comes into mind)
I was no different when I was young, I can't count the Hours I spent in that Demon-Infested Disco thingy in Duke Nukem
Kids who want to play the game have adult Brothers or Sisters, or dumb Parents, or a gaming Neighbor, they'll always have ways of getting it and paying for it... but that's not my major concern... My concern are the hordes of utterly immature and dumb adults who'll probably swarm to this game only because it's M rated...
I'll definately give AoC a try, but I can't motivate myself to actively waiting for it...I expect it to be bad, I hope it's good... we'll see how it'll turn out
A mature rating mean that content can be added to suit the game based on the lore. That in its own right can be hyped up. Your going to find content you wont see in other mmorpg's. I wouldn't want to play a game based on the lore if it had the same rating as a Disney game, because I would know it wouldn't have what I would expect. It wouldn't have the grim, gruesome, bloody appeal. Having a mature rating will fully justify the I.P. that is Conan anything less without the content will be a failure.
Talking about the game having a mature rating in regard to having mature players is ignorant especially since the the only way to judge that for yourself is to play with the game for yourself. Having a scope of the playerbase can however be semi judged from the official forum community, which on the whole I have to say is pleasing.
Two different viewpoints.
Pre-Release Communities are always nice, because at that Point, only People who are awaiting the game visit the Forums. Wait until the swarm of Box-buyers (you know those "Oh, that Box looks cool, Conan? Haha, I get to play as Arnie?! Cool thing"-Customers) enters the game and begin to defile the Forums with their hate-threads
Oh btw what just came to my mind:
Kids can even buy the Game theirselves... I mean it's not like the Shops would enforce the 18+ rule...they are either too stupid to check the Rating on the Box, or too greedy to forbid paying customers to buy something
Funcom can only control the rating of the CONTENT of the game. The rating a game receives has nothing to do with community at all. Because of the "M+" rating Funcom is going after, Funcom will attract the under 17 crowd just to see what they are suppose to be missing. The sad fact is, all gaming boards seem to be dominated by the under 13 crowd.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
with an R rating the game wont be sold at every store so its nice to see them willing to try to keep try to the feel of the game and not just try to sell as many as possible
Pre-Release Communities are always nice, because at that Point, only People who are awaiting the game visit the Forums. Wait until the swarm of Box-buyers (you know those "Oh, that Box looks cool, Conan? Haha, I get to play as Arnie?! Cool thing"-Customers) enters the game and begin to defile the Forums with their hate-threads
To minimise potentially unwanted gaming experiences from said people, I joined a guild of like minded people, looks like we will go on an RP-PVP server, thus further minimising contact with said person. Further still alliances formed with similar minded guilds, makes for the community I aimed/hoped for when I pursued my interest in the game. Considering RP is not mandatory in my guild, but also considering that those sever types will have blocks on name like L33TARNIE07 or whatever will help to no end. Im not worried in the slightest. Forum wise, when you have large guild and alliance community who don't tolerate people like you said, makes a forum visit refreshing, checking the Official Forums for information is quite easy to naviagate around the bad stuff if any appears.
Communities never really bothered me all that much, regardless if theyre considered "immature" a la WoW, your going to find people who are serious about the game. In fact I may even prefer a comunity that has a little of both becuase the serious people turn out to be rather elitist and hard to deal with as well.
/agree completely
Im shure some one addressed this but the reason they put the mature on the lable and the 17+ is because most people in society view the age of 17 and up as a mature age. That doesnt mean that u cant be mature at age 15(im pretty shure i was most of the time) or that u cant be immature at age 17 its just a expectation that when u r 17 u start to become more mature than u were at a younger age
If you think that age has nothing to do with maturity, spend an hour over in Runescape where the average age is 11-14.
If a mature rating means that there will be a greater percentage of older people playing, then a mature rating is good for a game community.
The mature rating does have the possibility of taking in some of the immature "LOLZ BOOBIES!!1" crowd, but we shall see how things turn out.
I personally think it is about time someone makes a game with blood and other adult themes <as long as it is done in good taste and fits the role playing enviroment=a half naked undead monster would make more sense then a fulling clothed undead monster with half of her/his body parts falling off>. Its about time the make a game that helps weed out the children from the adults...after all the adults are the ones with most of the money.
im 15 ... waiting for it, mature cuz theres alot of blood? oh please...
if they dont let me buy it or ask for an ID i can just get some1 to buy it for me ... lol
Played almost everything...
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