Can someone tell me what a good class for pwning is

elderado

im a mage...in azgalor

Frost mage

and i usauuly get pwned by ppl

 

mostly Warriors/Shadow priest/Paladins

 

 

so whats a good class to be can someone help me out

party with me or something

miataka

It will break your heart but, there is no Pwn class in WOW, that is something you find in othe rgames, no matter what class you play any other class will be able to take you in PVP if you have a decent geared player that has a template that matchs there playstyle.

 

Its one of the saving graces of WOW. there is no I win button, no JEDI class... everyone DIES in pvp

Volkmar

Frost mage is mostly a PvE spec.

It has great surviviability and lot of tricks to escape and get distance. none of which matters in a pvp fight as you can freeze one guy and get blasted by the next.

To be succesful in pvp as a mage, you need to do the most anount of damage in the least possible time and I believe, but correct me if I'm wrong, that a Fire spec will do way faster than a frost one.

As for other classes, WoW is not immune to the "Flavof of the month" syndrome as changes are made to the classes and the balance shifts... however, I've still to find one class that can beat all others. Every class has counters and it is stronger against some and weaker against others.

If then you take in consideration factors as gear and talent specs, the combinations become quite big and it becomes quite impossible to find THE class that would always win in pvp... and that's because they ain't one.

Current FOTM classes seems to be Warlocks, hunters (beast master with the new immune to every CC talent) and rogues with the new high level abilities to remove dots, debuffs and insta transport them behind you.

miataka

 

Originally posted by Volkmar


Frost mage is mostly a PvE spec.
It has great surviviability and lot of tricks to escape and get distance. none of which matters in a pvp fight as you can freeze one guy and get blasted by the next.
To be succesful in pvp as a mage, you need to do the most anount of damage in the least possible time and I believe, but correct me if I'm wrong, that a Fire spec will do way faster than a frost one.
As for other classes, WoW is not immune to the "Flavof of the month" syndrome as changes are made to the classes and the balance shifts... however, I've still to find one class that can beat all others. Every class has counters and it is stronger against some and weaker against others.
If then you take in consideration factors as gear and talent specs, the combinations become quite big and it becomes quite impossible to find THE class that would always win in pvp... and that's because they ain't one.
Current FOTM classes seems to be Warlocks, hunters (beast master with the new immune to every CC talent) and rogues with the new high level abilities to remove dots, debuffs and insta transport them behind you.

lol yeah and it depends on what level range as well, Cause with the bracket I have the most fun with right now is the 29 bracket. Its seems the most raw level of combat. Its before hunter have Flare, before druids have travel, before ALL classes have mounts, before rogues have shadow step and blind. and cant even think of the stuff mages priests and locks are missing out at this point.

 

 

To me I see it as a really fun well rounded level. the 49 group but can be really really fast deaths LOL. Over all every class has strengths, its wiether or not a player focuses on those and uses them.

 

Antipathy

No class pawns. Good players pawn. Good gear pawns.

And if you can't beat a pala with a frost mage, the problem isn't your class. It's you.

 

 

Antipathy

 

Originally posted by Volkmar


Frost mage is mostly a PvE spec.
It has great surviviability and lot of tricks to escape and get distance. none of which matters in a pvp fight as you can freeze one guy and get blasted by the next.

 

Completely and utterly wrong. Frost is a pvp spec - defences are absolutely essential for pvp. And if you get attacked by multiple opponents, or a stealthed class, then iceblock will save you, whilst a fire mage will just die. Frost is also great for kiting, which is essential to beat any melee opponent. It's worse against warlocks, but they'll kill you no matter what your spec is. It's also pretty good for soloing and AoE grinding.

However for group PvE, fire > frost. Most frost mages I've seen will come 3rd or fourth on damage done in a five man instance, whilst a decent fire mage should be consistently first or second. Why do you need all those defences when you have a decent tank standing in front of you and you know how to manage your aggro? Fire also works for solo pve. Instead of AoE grinding you will just one or two shot all your opponents.

Pixelzptlk

Originally posted by Antipathy
 
And if you can't beat a pala with a frost mage, the problem isn't your class. It's you.
 
 

 

While I agree with your post below for the most part,  I'd say if you cant beat any spec mage with a Pally, you arent playing your pally correctly. As Pally, I would much rather face a well played Frost mage than a well played 'lock or Shadow Priest...

 

 

Unknown

You should pick a Undead Rogue

Reason =

Link; http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=36F221BC5D0F8CABB767B9C5E6094F8E.app09_04?topicId=301911262&sid=1&pageNo=1

 

Mentat

What? You play frost mage and are asking this? Wow, you are playing a pwn class dude - with the right frost spec (and I hate frost being a huge raiding pve style fan)  you could own many. There is however always going to be a class that can whip ya. I imagine if I wanted to pvp a lot I would pick a warlock though.

 Edit: Some frost strat - if you are loosing a pvp against a single target make sure you are summoning pet and iceblocking - the pet can usually finish em. 

kwai

Well there is really no class thats pwn.

 

Tho there is one class who is above every other class, warlock and its fearing + dotting you to your death , unless you face a undead rogue, then you will have some trouble.

 

Else a fire mage wouldnt really hurt, its sick for single target damage.

ormstunga

for world pvp and grief madness... undead rogue all teh way 

Gurtelrose

Rogue, no doubt. For horde pick;

• Undead Rogue
• Will of Forsaken 
• Cannibalize

Alliance choice would be;

• Dwarf Rogue
• Stoneform

 

 

 

PrebThor

Originally posted by Gurtelrose


Rogue, no doubt. For horde pick;

Undead Rogue
Will of Forsaken 
Cannibalize

Alliance choice would be;

Dwarf Rogue
Stoneform

 
 
 

Nah, gnomes have Escape Artist which will constantly get you out of sticky situations. In addition, gnomes have +15 to engineering which lets them use gear available only to them at specific levels [within the battlegrounds] because of this, so I would say they're the best rogue choice on the Alliance side. Plus, they're tiny - thus harder to spot!

baphamet

frost mages are one of the best pvp class/spec there is, if you dont have enough skills with a frost mage to be effective on pvp, then i dont know what to tell you.

it does take a competent player to be good with a mage, you might want to try reading some player made guides to help you with your game.

Eichenkatze

Originally posted by miataka


It will break your heart but, there is no Pwn class in WOW, that is something you find in othe rgames, no matter what class you play any other class will be able to take you in PVP if you have a decent geared player that has a template that matchs there playstyle.
 
Its one of the saving graces of WOW. there is no I win button, no JEDI class... everyone DIES in pvp

  Hey, hey hey... shhh /pat

We don't speak of those things anymore... a banned word.. otherwise we get hounds from the depths of a three lettered company scratching at our doors.. /pat

Don't wake them.. lol

Aseenus

dude trust me, it takes time and effort to be good, iv come across guys in the best gear and slaughter them as if they were in greens...

instead of concentrating so much on getting gear, when u join a battleground or are doing world pvp, think of it as chess, try and determine wat move ur opponent will be making next, learn to counter there attacks and find ways to stop them from doing certain attacks, once uv achieved this u will become a worthy oponent

Rizlaw

No class pwns. But give a undead rogue a try!

brostyn

Hunter, mage, warlock.

 

How do you get pwned being a mage? You have like 30 ways to gain range.

Thebigbopper

Originally posted by Volkmar


Frost mage is mostly a PvE spec.
It has great surviviability and lot of tricks to escape and get distance. none of which matters in a pvp fight as you can freeze one guy and get blasted by the next.
To be succesful in pvp as a mage, you need to do the most anount of damage in the least possible time and I believe, but correct me if I'm wrong, that a Fire spec will do way faster than a frost one.
As for other classes, WoW is not immune to the "Flavof of the month" syndrome as changes are made to the classes and the balance shifts... however, I've still to find one class that can beat all others. Every class has counters and it is stronger against some and weaker against others.
If then you take in consideration factors as gear and talent specs, the combinations become quite big and it becomes quite impossible to find THE class that would always win in pvp... and that's because they ain't one.
Current FOTM classes seems to be Warlocks, hunters (beast master with the new immune to every CC talent) and rogues with the new high level abilities to remove dots, debuffs and insta transport them behind you.

 Seriously saying that frost mage is mostly a pve spec really says that you don't know much about the mage class!. I know someone has already really replied to this but its just  such a ludicrous statement.

Wagoner

Warlock plain and simple.

Gurtelrose

Originally posted by Thorsnes

Originally posted by Gurtelrose


Rogue, no doubt. For horde pick;

Undead Rogue
Will of Forsaken 
Cannibalize

Alliance choice would be;

Dwarf Rogue
Stoneform

 
 
 

Nah, gnomes have Escape Artist which will constantly get you out of sticky situations. In addition, gnomes have +15 to engineering which lets them use gear available only to them at specific levels [within the battlegrounds] because of this, so I would say they're the best rogue choice on the Alliance side. Plus, they're tiny - thus harder to spot!

True, I complete forgot the Gnomes "Escape Artist" ability which also is highly favour.  But I would stick with a Undead Rogue for my first choice.

maledicta777

I have to agree that Rogue, and Undead, is the way to go.  They gripe on the WoW forums when they can't kill two people at the same time, and then usually get their abilities buffed in each patch, while other classes get their powers hacked vs. Rogues.  It is for this reason that I am guessing that most of the people who made WoW and still code for it play an Undead Rogue. 

- Mal

BadSpock

WoW is a game of paper/rock/scissors

Certain classes are just better and killing other classes, worse at killing others

However, they game has been balanced so anything is possible, if you are a good player and well geared, you can win any one on one fight.

Frost mage is good for utility PVP, lots of slows and stuns and whatnot, but the real damage of the mage class is in the Fire tree.

 

Unknown

Originally posted by heerobya


WoW is a game of paper/rock/scissors
Certain classes are just better and killing other classes, worse at killing others
However, they game has been balanced so anything is possible, if you are a good player and well geared, you can win any one on one fight.
Frost mage is good for utility PVP, lots of slows and stuns and whatnot, but the real damage of the mage class is in the Fire tree.
 

You are thinking on World of Warcraft Roguecraft - Balance (Rock, Scissors and Paper)

Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWeWMKfa3g&mode=related&search=

maybe a bit outdated now

FahrenheitTH

I'm a DPS Warrior. My DEF can be a bit of a bugger sometimes but then again I still need some more practice, till I get to own, but I'm not complaining about my build, always an asset in raids, and BGs.

laleb

Warlock or rogue.