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My return was short lived.
Kryogenic
Member Posts: 663
I went back to SWG a few weeks back, but I only ended up lasting about a week or so. I logged in less and less.
The combat animations are just boring and way too repetitive. The old animations were great, but the combat is so damn crack headedly fast now, they can't squeeze the good animations in. Not to mention that annoying side step to the right thing that my smuggler did way too many times while fighting. Jedi saber animations are just lame and super repetitive. Not to mention Jedi have 2 saber moves in combat... strike and sweep. How boring is that? Sure you can add lightning and choke, but still only gives you 4 moves to do in combat. The lightning animation usually plays after whatever you're fighting is dead.
In short combat is boring. Even duels suck. I remeber when duels lasted a good long time. They were fun that way.
I can't stand the UI it's guady and even if you tweak it to work like a decent game, the targeting system is the most unintuitive piece of crap in any game, hands down.
I've had more fun playing Ragnarok Online then SWG. In fact, during the last 2 weeks before I canceled I noticed that I hadn't logged into SWG once, while I played RO for a few minutes almost every day.
The forums are crawling with people who have been asking for a better UI, control scheme, and animations. I could be wrong, but it seems these people have been asking for these things since the NGE went live. I've seen some pretty heavy fanboism on these boards and I thought it would be that way on the official forums. That wasn't the case. The majority of posts I read were from people who were unhappy with the current state of the game.
It's just mind boggling that SOE employees have made public statements saying they messed up with the NGE, the current and past players are complaining about the UI, targeting system, and animations, but yet the devs completely disregard this.
Beast Mastery is lame. Sure you can do it, but then you have sacrifice any semblance of a decent template. I hated the pet system in WoW and I don't like the copy cat version in SWG. If I want to feed a pet and monitor it's moods, I'll buy a real pet. That kind of game play just isn't fun. And let's not even talk about the cost of making a decent pet.
So all you people that are enjoying the game, more power to you. To those of you who aren't, I wouldn't hang around hoping for change because I don't think it's coming. Hopefully something will come out soon that has substance and freedom like the old SWG did.
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Well at least you tried it. I came back and loved it. I like using the mod that changes the UI to pre NGE.
I thought about that, but it won't change the crappy animations.
My girlfriend and I are SWG vets. We quit about 3 years ago (maybe more). We came back recently.
We only lasted about 2 weeks. The game isn't noob friendly. Now there are levels, and the only way to be competetive is to grind all the way to lvl 90 and grind missions over and over for good gear.
It would take over 6 months before I could start being competetive and having fun. During that 6 months, it's just a grind fest not fun at all.
No thanks.
- Phos
All my old SWG guildies playing WoW agree: WoW's combat system is superior to SWG's pale imitation of it.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
No you're not
Sad thing we see this more and more , people unable to socialize ingame and they truly seem to think that lvling is all there is to a game like SWG, how can someone who plays like that calls himself a VET LOL
Now when people are capable to mix in with the community instead of being jalouze at the community the game is lots of fun, there is grind if you limit yourself to one type of playstyle, but those more true gamers with passion for mmorpg arn't like that, its those ELitist that have a hard time dealing with MMORPG's like SWG.
Again on does not have to like every game that is out there, but constant bring silly stuff that just does not fit mmorpg playstyle is just not right and then to see people so-called calling themselfs VET as they can't even behave like a VET makes me wonder why those people even play mmorpgames.
Its truly amazing that a so-called VET even talks about a grind of 6 months , i mean how sad of a player you must be to limit one self to sucha limited playstyle in a mmorpg, trust me in no way a true VET
Let me be arogant 
and YES i feel i'm more of a VET but mainly cause i HAVE PASSION for mmorpg unlike most (not all) wann-be Vets on the disgrunted side of this forum that don't seem to care about this genre.
You came back for a week and because you don't like the animations, the game sucks? hmm. I smell yet another so called Vet rant, especially as your original thread heads off on yet another SOE/NGE rant.
My fav part - 'Beast Mastery is lame' but you don't explain why? Its provide people with a lot of fun and given crafters new stuff to make, which is always welcome.
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And BTW, I'm basing my opinion about combat solely on PvE.
The beautiful, engaging combat animations that SWG used to have were destroyed by the crackhead developers who gave us the NGE combat system, all artificially speeded up to give the weak-minded the delusion of "faster' combat.
Combat in SWG used to be a joy to watch as well as participate in. Now it's all hyper-kinetic ADD inspired garbage.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
I don't understand how combat is worse in this game versus any other MMO. Based on my few days back to the game, I really like the increased speed. It's made for a lot of frantic battles which was quite fun.
And how the heck is it worse than WoW? WoW has the most straightforward combat system anywhere. You can even say WoW is the baseline, and practically every other MMO offers that much and more.
I think too many people remember the pre-CU SWG old combat system and still prefer that one to the more 'common' UI interface they have in game now. I find the game enjoyable now but with all my characters being on a lower population server it doesn't hold my interest that long. Sometimes the game even feels like a single player MMO due to the lack of player interaction on my server, I'm sure this is different on the higher pop ones.
Try the swg's space aspect.. the twitch combat lets you enjoy fun reflex based combat in an mmo setting heh.
subs and money..........oh yeah....you run a swg related site.....conflict of interest anyone? what, smed giving you free timecards? roflmao!!!!
yeah i use those and the animatuion mods to bring back the precu luster. I honestly love it, but without the animations, i can see why you don like it. cause honestly i would have quit if i didnt have the animation a year ago.
same..i miss the animations and ui...but mods do help a ton
Before CU, I was a TK fighter in training. My bro was TKM though and it was great watching him use all his different moves. As I started learning 2h swords...I loved leveling up and gaining not just a stronger attack, but a new combat animation. Head-strikes always made my smile when using my hammer.
Combat used to be quite fun to watch...until hour 4 went by during a grind session. As a new Jedi before the NGE, I was still having fun with only 1 or 2 saber strikes during grind sessions, simply because being a Jedi was still new and exciting. Oh, and also just because I have always loved the sound of sabers igniting and striking things. To have my very own saber in use as a part of a group was great fun.
I used to love watching veteran Jedi (pre-NGE) do a host of visually different attacks. 1h saber fighting was my favorite by far. I don't know the name of the move, but a Jedi would slide his forward foot back, straighten his posture, turn is body sideway to his target and let his saber dance around slicing his opponent about 5 feet from his open hand. That was SICK!
So yeah...please tell me it's not true that jedis now only have two visually distinct saber attacks. I just may reconsider my thoughts of re-submitting for good.
**Returned SWG player**
IGN: Gindacca, RACE: Wookiee
OLD GUILD: [cCc] (aka: BOC)
NEW GUILD: -SAS-
PROF: Light Jedi (elder)
(pre-NGE PROF: TKM/Master Swordsman)
SERVER: Chimaera (Euro)
@ suske it's clear you haven't a clue what you are talking about, much like the OP. In most cases, you don't buy a game because of its graphics only ability. There's much more to a game than that!
I'm an SOE fan-boy? I think not. When NGE came out I gave it a scathing review, which I posted on my site. However, unlike some of you who visit these forums with nothing better to do then post unconstructive threads and replies without any facts at all, I returned and can actually see the changes made to the game since NGE hit. Yes there is more to do to improve things and yes, I do miss the skill based tree system but the dev team ARE improving the game.
I find it amazing how some of you can still post away without having even played the game properly because clearly IF the OP returned, they did so with just one thought in their mind...'I hate NGE' before even clicking play.
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I came back for a month too. I have really been looking for that Sci FI MMO to satisfy me. It was cool to see the old neighborhood and blow up a couple houses. I even made another set of RIS. Had most of the components from before. I even started working on my starship skills again.
I tried to like it, but here is what kept me from staying
!. the PvE combat is far too difficult now. I know they recently incresed it, but it isnt fun. I was getting incapped left and right by 2 mobs 6 levels below me. It shouldnt even be a challenge at that point.
2. There is no point to crafting anymore. Nothing breaks. That was one of my biggest appeals to the game. I loved the crafting.
Trying Eve Online atm to get some Sci FI. Never been keen on gank squards, so i probably wont stay.
Guess its back to LOTR until one of these companies realize the demand and provide a solid product.
Triston Master Carbine/Master Swords (SWG Eclipse)
Triston 29 Warden (EQ2 Permafrost)
Weland 70 Hunter (WoW Hellscream)
Suidan 36 Cleric (Vanguard Flamehammer)
Suidan 50 Champion (LOTR Gladden)
If the game was as great as you and the other fanbois claim then it should be good enough to convince the "haters" come back and keep playing. I came back during the free vet trial thing and honestly it was not much different than when I left in Dec. 2005. It was a little better I'll admit but it still had the Benny Hill combat, the animations still were nowhere near as good as before, there still wasn't enough diversity with the classes even with talents...errr expertise and it still had the same clunky interface. Those were the biggest gameplay reasons I and many others left because of so if it wasn't a much different experience for people coming back as when they left then why stay?
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shush you silly person. its called appeal, content and gameplay. SWG fails in all areas. socializing isnt everything, who in their right mind would pay 10$ a month for a chatroom
2. Crafting is pointless because there's no failed craft attempts anymore? Well that would make crafting pointless in most mmo's out there...
The pve is too difficult? Are you kidding? I find it incredibly easy, taking on groups of npcs at once. Keep your heal going, use adequate armor for your level (or above), use a decent weapon.. no problem. See those stats on your armor? Get armor with better stats. If you are fighting things that are shooting at you, get armor with good energy stats.. kinetic for melee mobs, and the rest for whatever. It's not like most mmos where you have one stat that fits all. It's more like getting that +10000 fire magic bonus armor that you need in some games for some areas, for instance. Go check the cantina at mos esley.. if it's like my server there will be a bunch of entertainers there just waiting to give you buffs to your armor/etc. Use them if you have trouble.
shush you silly person. its called appeal, content and gameplay. SWG fails in all areas. socializing isnt everything, who in their right mind would pay 10$ a month for a chatroom
Maybe a few do but i wasn't talking about a chatbox, I was talking about SWG, you see limited minds can only think limited things meaning you consider socializing a chatbox, i see socializing as becoming a part of galaxie, helping others, talking to others, doing things together, you know socializing, to bad your socialize skils seems to be stuck to not futher then a chatbox. seeing your limited response
The OP clearly states multiple issues with the game besides the terrible graphical animations. I thought he obviously sumed it up in terms of game play, it's bad.
I agree with the OP. SWG is not a great game anymore.
I also do not like the "beast mastery" addition although it *does* add content. Adding content is not a blank check for fun.